It's like they're trying to embarrass themselves and lose money.
I thought the interfering C-suite types were supposed to make sure the game is super generic. How is this option generic? It's clearly meant to appeal to a tiny segment of the consumer market.
In Baldur's Gate there's a cursed item that switches yoir gender. No surgery. Also this implies Dragon Age has surgeries. They are advanced enough to have surgeries?
Imagine getting any surgery in an era before germ theory and knowing to wash your hands after you poop. Survival mode in vidya introduces higher instances of infection when you take damage.
Dr Money didn't invent making kids have s*x and taking pictures of it in order to turn them trans until the 1960s or 1970s. Why would this shit exist back in Ye Olde Tymes?
Also it's a role playing game. Why would you want to play as yourself in a game? Nobody gave a shit that you had to play as an Italian plumber to eat mushroom and stomp on turtles. The game character is Mario and you control Mario.
I want to play as a dual weilding mage thief elf but also I need him her to be HIV+ and transgender
even if we understand fantasy as a setting to be pre-modern (IMO not a trivial assumption to make) dragon age is that incredibly soft form of contemporary fantasy where it's just the modern world but everyone's wearing robes and technology is just "magic" or hand-waved away as unimportant
I can buy that. Elder Scrolls certainly has zero historical connection to earth. The games could have happened a 1000 years ago, a billion years ago, or 5 minutes ago. It's timeless because it isn't here.
I still stand that you play the role of a person who you aren't in real life as part of the game. You don't need their backstory that they're gay. If you want your character to be gay then go frick dudes.
But also I don't see how cutting your tits off or having unprotected anal s*x with the latest Drow you met contributes to the actual plot of the game. It's so fricking selfish.
I don't think there's anything inherently incorrect as wanting to play as "yourself" in one of these games. Certainly plenty of people make original characters but self-inserts have been a part of genre fiction for decades.
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Elder scrolls also has a lot of genuinely weird shit in it still. Skyrim has giants everywhere and an jarl who hates giants sells you a patch of land in the middle of giant country so they'll routinely attack you. The reason I always side with the emperor is that the imperial jarls are all so much more likable than the stormcloak jarls. There's cool psychic grandma and the whiterun dude who's kids are plotting to murder him because the evil sword in the basement is telling him to.
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its this solipsistic worldview thing, very femme coded.
remember the, was it lego or mattel or something, the children playing toys study ??
boys see batman and they want to be him, they fantasize fighting crime and all that
girls see batman and they want him to be her, they have batman go shopping, drink tea, dress up and all that
as g*mergater foids infiltrate these companies they make games for women (male) who, rather than wanting a fantasy they can asprire to on screen, want someone who looks like them to be doing the things
concord for example was a whole roster of characters that are exactly this. obese brown blobs and being unrealistically athletic
as far as natural foids, I guess they have less control over their appearance, the only action they can really take is not be fat (which most fail at anyway )
whereas dudes have to make themselves attractive in like every way. much more agency
so we see attractive things on screen and feel inspired. that we could work on ourself and be that
foids must see attractive women and feel jealous and defeated, because there's no workout they could do to increase bazonga
idk dudes rock. but we handed over the metaphorical controller to the foids
This is something literally nobody wants, tbh. I've mentioned this before but nusoy game developers fundamentally misunderstand s. They don't want representation, they want to be the opposite gender. A mtf wants the wish fulfillment of being a pretty delicate girl not a genderless blob with makeup & a 5 o' clock shadow. A ftm doesn't want to run around with surgery scars like they have irl they want to be buff masculine dudes.
Tho shit like this isn't for players, it gets them attention from soyjournos and progressive points to show off to investors, which is all they really want
That line of thinking applied 4 years ago, but not anymore.
Modern s have fetishized being trans and it has nothing to do with wanting to be the opposite s*x.
Hence all the impossible-to-avoid discourse around "girldick". If they aren't aggressively shoving the fact that they're trans in your face at every possible opportunity, they don't get the same kind of excitement out of the roleplay.
See I don't think that's right. It's almost as if wanting to completely transition into the other side of the binary is a thing of the past, like gays from the 80's. NBs are a big thing now and I've been seeing LOTS of furries draw their chars with visible, even stylized top scars. They actively choose to present themselves like this.
Wanting to be the opposite s*x makes you truscum. A lot of s now transition to 'Trans', not the gender they claim to be. Because so much of it is material now, they want zippertits and girldick bulges. No crotch wound, though, because that's not sexy for them.
The internet, and character creators like this, are good displays of how no matter what they might say a large number of s have no desire to be just treated like a normal man or woman. There's no point if they're not receiving special attention. But one of the lead developers on this game is a (MtF). What else would you expect?
Is this like when deafoids get mad when other deafoids get cochlear implants to hear?
They get bigly buttsalt over it because "oh wait, so you're gonna sell out and join the opposition?" That kind of attitude. So much investment into the identity of being deaf over everything else.
Not really, because that seems to be about someone leaving their insular culture, and reinforcing that they have a disability rather than a culture. Though with ASL, deaf people have more of a claim to having a culture because they do have their own language, and therefore specific method of communicating. But that's another topic.
The thing is just tied to the narcissism of being special and the chance to try and force everyone around you to treat you a certain way. Just another man or woman isn't enough, and certainly doesn't rank on the oppressive stack. Zippertits is just a sign of appealing to fujoshi-types.
Yeah if you cut your boobs off in medieval times you'd get infected and die. If that's not a problem because they have healing magic to prevent that, why don't they have healing magic to get rid of the boobs then? There's no way it makes sense either way
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Yeah, and the Siege of Dragonspear devs added a trans character. In a setting where wearing a belt changes your s*x.
Surgery has always been a thing. We have records of prehistoric humans performing surgery. It's only that people more often than not died from it until relatively recently.
Nah, it's technically dark fantasy. This is r-slurred, but the scarring would make sense in the setting. People still have big scars and wounds and injuries. Medicine is less advanced than 2020s California for most people. And magic attracts possession by demons. If anything you could argue this is a realistic medieval torture/shaming they used on women. I think this would be neat if it was a weird afterthought on a highly highly advanced character creator where you could cut off limbs and stuff.
I don't think C-suite types are looking over these games. You have artists adding some things without getting higher up approval. A lot of artists are political and feel the need to be pushy and public about it. There are also some people who are incapable of separating themselves from the character so they don't want to play games that don't have a character that's them or how they want to see themselves. They try to go after that market or reduce the complaints.
From personal experience, the ones who can't play as other races and whine about representation have severe identity issues and are genuinely racist.
I don't think C-suite types are looking over these games.
Yeah IDK why you'd think these people have an in depth knowledge about the game an its systems and mechanics, they mostly care about bigger picture. You can't supervise and focus group microtweak a big, RPG game quite like a 100 minute Marvel movie anyway.
See Concord as an example, maybe the characters and pronounshit was presented to upper executives, but they'd probably just roll their eyes and think "if that's what our audience wants..". All that mattered was that Concord was supposed to be a fresh take on a popular and very lucrative genre that might take away players from existing games and maybe attract new ones.
It's just virtue siginaling. As usual, they aren't marketing to pooners, they're marketing to the wider woke audience by showing how "inclusive" they are.
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It's like they're trying to embarrass themselves and lose money.
I thought the interfering C-suite types were supposed to make sure the game is super generic. How is this option generic? It's clearly meant to appeal to a tiny segment of the consumer market.
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Fantasy setting with magic, but no scar healing magic or boob removal magic. Boob surgery in this other world is exactly like in 2020s California.
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In Baldur's Gate there's a cursed item that switches yoir gender. No surgery. Also this implies Dragon Age has surgeries. They are advanced enough to have surgeries?
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Imagine getting any surgery in an era before germ theory and knowing to wash your hands after you poop. Survival mode in vidya introduces higher instances of infection when you take damage.
Dr Money didn't invent making kids have s*x and taking pictures of it in order to turn them trans until the 1960s or 1970s. Why would this shit exist back in Ye Olde Tymes?
Also it's a role playing game. Why would you want to play as yourself in a game? Nobody gave a shit that you had to play as an Italian plumber to eat mushroom and stomp on turtles. The game character is Mario and you control Mario.
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even if we understand fantasy as a setting to be pre-modern (IMO not a trivial assumption to make) dragon age is that incredibly soft form of contemporary fantasy where it's just the modern world but everyone's wearing robes and technology is just "magic" or hand-waved away as unimportant
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I can buy that. Elder Scrolls certainly has zero historical connection to earth. The games could have happened a 1000 years ago, a billion years ago, or 5 minutes ago. It's timeless because it isn't here.
I still stand that you play the role of a person who you aren't in real life as part of the game. You don't need their backstory that they're gay. If you want your character to be gay then go frick dudes.
But also I don't see how cutting your tits off or having unprotected anal s*x with the latest Drow you met contributes to the actual plot of the game. It's so fricking selfish.
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I don't think there's anything inherently incorrect as wanting to play as "yourself" in one of these games. Certainly plenty of people make original characters but self-inserts have been a part of genre fiction for decades.
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Elder scrolls also has a lot of genuinely weird shit in it still. Skyrim has giants everywhere and an jarl who hates giants sells you a patch of land in the middle of giant country so they'll routinely attack you. The reason I always side with the emperor is that the imperial jarls are all so much more likable than the stormcloak jarls. There's cool psychic grandma and the whiterun dude who's kids are plotting to murder him because the evil sword in the basement is telling him to.
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its this solipsistic worldview thing, very femme coded.
remember the, was it lego or mattel or something, the children playing toys study ??
boys see batman and they want to be him, they fantasize fighting crime and all that
girls see batman and they want him to be her, they have batman go shopping, drink tea, dress up and all that
as g*mergater foids infiltrate these companies they make games for women (male) who, rather than wanting a fantasy they can asprire to on screen, want someone who looks like them to be doing the things
concord for example was a whole roster of characters that are exactly this. obese brown blobs and being unrealistically athletic
as far as natural foids, I guess they have less control over their appearance, the only action they can really take is not be fat (which most fail at anyway )
whereas dudes have to make themselves attractive in like every way. much more agency
so we see attractive things on screen and feel inspired. that we could work on ourself and be that
foids must see attractive women and feel jealous and defeated, because there's no workout they could do to increase bazonga
idk dudes rock. but we handed over the metaphorical controller to the foids
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This explains Barbie so much.
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I'll join your party as a disabled dwarf in a wheelchair who hurt himself in the mines
my pronouns are dig/dug
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I had that on Atari or something. I was really bad at it
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Still a better game than Veilguard at least
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I assume the wheelchair is weaponized to heck and back
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For sure, it comes with a turret that pops out and shoots people
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This is something literally nobody wants, tbh. I've mentioned this before but nusoy game developers fundamentally misunderstand s. They don't want representation, they want to be the opposite gender. A mtf wants the wish fulfillment of being a pretty delicate girl not a genderless blob with makeup & a 5 o' clock shadow. A ftm doesn't want to run around with surgery scars like they have irl they want to be buff masculine dudes.
Tho shit like this isn't for players, it gets them attention from soyjournos and progressive points to show off to investors, which is all they really want
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That line of thinking applied 4 years ago, but not anymore.
Modern s have fetishized being trans and it has nothing to do with wanting to be the opposite s*x.
Hence all the impossible-to-avoid discourse around "girldick". If they aren't aggressively shoving the fact that they're trans in your face at every possible opportunity, they don't get the same kind of excitement out of the roleplay.
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See I don't think that's right. It's almost as if wanting to completely transition into the other side of the binary is a thing of the past, like gays from the 80's. NBs are a big thing now and I've been seeing LOTS of furries draw their chars with visible, even stylized top scars. They actively choose to present themselves like this.
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because they're not actually trans, just narcissistic
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Aren't they all?
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about 5% are actually trans
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I was thinking a similar thing.
If s just want to be the opposite s*x, wouldn't they just select the opposite s*x?
Giving the option for top surgery scars is like giving the option for a bleeding crotch wound and you have to dilate every time you make camp.
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Wanting to be the opposite s*x makes you truscum. A lot of s now transition to 'Trans', not the gender they claim to be. Because so much of it is material now, they want zippertits and girldick bulges. No crotch wound, though, because that's not sexy for them.
The internet, and character creators like this, are good displays of how no matter what they might say a large number of s have no desire to be just treated like a normal man or woman. There's no point if they're not receiving special attention. But one of the lead developers on this game is a (MtF). What else would you expect?
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Is this like when deafoids get mad when other deafoids get cochlear implants to hear?
They get bigly buttsalt over it because "oh wait, so you're gonna sell out and join the opposition?" That kind of attitude. So much investment into the identity of being deaf over everything else.
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Not really, because that seems to be about someone leaving their insular culture, and reinforcing that they have a disability rather than a culture. Though with ASL, deaf people have more of a claim to having a culture because they do have their own language, and therefore specific method of communicating. But that's another topic.
The thing is just tied to the narcissism of being special and the chance to try and force everyone around you to treat you a certain way. Just another man or woman isn't enough, and certainly doesn't rank on the oppressive stack. Zippertits is just a sign of appealing to fujoshi-types.
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Narcissism
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Yeah if you cut your boobs off in medieval times you'd get infected and die. If that's not a problem because they have healing magic to prevent that, why don't they have healing magic to get rid of the boobs then? There's no way it makes sense either way
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Tevinter is apparently a fantasy night city so maybe. π€·πΌββοΈ
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Really? How advance are they?
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Neon street signs, magical giant police spotlights, city wide intercoms, etc
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Yeah, and the Siege of Dragonspear devs added a trans character. In a setting where wearing a belt changes your s*x.
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Surgery has always been a thing. We have records of prehistoric humans performing surgery. It's only that people more often than not died from it until relatively recently.
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"There is no past, and there is no future, there is only the present"
!bookworms does this quote comes from 1969?
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Nah, it's technically dark fantasy. This is r-slurred, but the scarring would make sense in the setting. People still have big scars and wounds and injuries. Medicine is less advanced than 2020s California for most people. And magic attracts possession by demons. If anything you could argue this is a realistic medieval torture/shaming they used on women. I think this would be neat if it was a weird afterthought on a highly highly advanced character creator where you could cut off limbs and stuff.
It's pooner shit though.
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interesting
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Same logic as furries putting scars on their fursonas. Their ideal self isn't "female", it's female* (++ attention)
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No s*x converting magic either lmao. Imaging having all that magic and you still can't be a real woman.
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Maybe they have market research that reveals that getting free publicity from incandescent wingcucks is good for sales?
TOP SURGERY SCARS? We must boycott this sick filth!!
We must buy this to protect trans lives and own the chuds!
There's a new Dragon Age? I might buy it I love dragons
FUS-RO-DANCE ON RIGHTOID GRAVES
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I don't think C-suite types are looking over these games. You have artists adding some things without getting higher up approval. A lot of artists are political and feel the need to be pushy and public about it. There are also some people who are incapable of separating themselves from the character so they don't want to play games that don't have a character that's them or how they want to see themselves. They try to go after that market or reduce the complaints.
From personal experience, the ones who can't play as other races and whine about representation have severe identity issues and are genuinely racist.
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Yeah IDK why you'd think these people have an in depth knowledge about the game an its systems and mechanics, they mostly care about bigger picture. You can't supervise and focus group microtweak a big, RPG game quite like a 100 minute Marvel movie anyway.
See Concord as an example, maybe the characters and pronounshit was presented to upper executives, but they'd probably just roll their eyes and think "if that's what our audience wants..". All that mattered was that Concord was supposed to be a fresh take on a popular and very lucrative genre that might take away players from existing games and maybe attract new ones.
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It's just virtue siginaling. As usual, they aren't marketing to pooners, they're marketing to the wider woke audience by showing how "inclusive" they are.
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modern audiences chud
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Women were a mistake
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Why not have fricking prosthetic limbs and cochlear implants. I DEMAND REPRESENTATION BIOWARE!
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