https://x.com/longislandviper/status/1837157796137030141
Someone on /v/ transcribed the podcast and I will take him at his word because I didnt bother listening to it
>Colin Moriarty says that he verified this person worked on Concord and talked with him extensively
>He was shocked to learn that Concord cost $400 million to make
>Concord entered the alpha state in early 2023 before Sony bought them, Sony has been working with the developers since 2020.
>When they hit the alpha state, they have already spent $200 million working on it. Sony spend $200 million extra on it from 2023 onwards.
>The game was in a horrible shape during alpha, Sony felt they had to spend an extra 200 million in order to get the game into a playable state.
>A major expense was needed to outsource the game to other studios to finish building it and fixing it so that it was playable before launch.
>Two major things were not worked on until the last minute. Onboarding, how to get new players in and Monetization, how to get money from the players
>it would cost millions to keep the game going as well
>this is Sony's biggest and most expensive 1st party game in their history, more expensive than Spider-man 2 and TLOU2. They lost all of the money spent.
>They made $1 million gross revenue when the game launched, which was refunded.
>Sony had faith that Concord was the future of PS, it was believed to be a star wars level project where movies, tv shows, comics and toys will be made from it
>code name chaos was it's name in development
>internally you couldnt say anything bad about it due to toxic positivity.
>Herman Hulst was a massive champion of the game and you could not insult his baby.
>Colin Moriarty says that he thought the game would cost $100-200 million but he reconfirms that his source is solid and it actually costs more
>Sony execs believed in the project so much nobody on the ground level could change things. Which is why they bought the team.
>400 million is not included with the costs to buy the team btw.
>this is the biggest lost in PS history
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Concord supposedly cost 400 million dollars...
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Koreans could've made it in a weekend for a Samsung Galaxy and 20 jars of kimchi
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imagine the smell
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Fermented cabbage
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They spent all that money on the game and still couldn't pay their developers a living wage. This is what happens when you don't pay your employees and force them to work inhumane hours. If you make someone work more than 20 hours a week, productivity plummets. This is known, but capitalists refuse to learn. This is why all right wingers are stupid.
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Thats simply untrue.
The anime/manga industry underpays and overworks everyone and makes billions and is fueled by angst, alcoholism, depression and passion.
Western game devs were simply not pushed far enough.
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Now imagine how much better Anime and Manga would be if the workers owned the means of production and utilized it to create actual meaningful stories instead of bottom of the barrel misogynistic slop whose sole purpose is to exploit women and people of color to maximize capitalist profits to keep the 1% on top and the 99% on the bottom. Actually educate yourself and think critically and rationally about the world around you instead of locking yourself in an incel misanthropic loser worldview. Clean the cheetos off your fingers before you write your angry reply, porkie.
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Xhe's right. Jojolion would prob be kino if Wonder Of U didn't have to be forced into the literally last 5 chapters. !anime
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Jojolion was still a mess without Wonder of U.
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Vitamin C flashback is peak Jojo so I cannot fully agree with this statement
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The best manga are those with a strong authorial vision that are allowed to take their time.
The one chapter a week model inevitably leads to uninspired slop as the core concept is good and well thought out but the relentless pace of it all inevitably funnels it into tired tropes with which to milk an audience through the sunk cost fallacy.
Art, be it novels, manga, movies w/e is not meant to be made by corpo commitie. Thats how you get slop.
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I think the saddest thing is when one has a good concept but has to follow genre conventions so it ends up mediocre despite the idea since japs are allergic to actual anti-heroes and unlikable protags
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Shamo almost did it but the author killed himself halfway through the series
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Interesting, truth be told a problem I find with japs is that if they do give the protagonist some negative traits, they always tend to gloss over them or just make the protagonist a cuck, a simp, or lame in some weird way instead of just playing it straight.
I guess Japanese people either fit the mould or kill themselves...
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He's not even wrong though, all the best anime/manga was made by random groups of neurodivergents that wanted to make literally anything that wasn't isekai/romance/teenagerslop
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When did I say that zxe was wrong?, zxe is right doe!
white extinction is long overdue via-BBC
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Xir's a mamon!
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So true queen
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Me too. Me too.
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No
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Imagine what anime would be like if people who knew how social interaction works, instead of random neurodivergents plucked from a design school.
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Reminds me of when sonic the hedgehog 2 (genesis) was being made in America and moved sega japan devs into the western offices and the japs all seethed that the western devs went home on the weekends and after the work day was over instead of slaving away 24/7 for their shogunate.
!g*mers
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A true Sonic fan would give anything
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Japan is a failed nation though?
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I don't think he's being serious
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I mean, I was with you until you said four five hour days was the max someone could be productive in a week lol
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You're right. It should be even lower than that. The less people work, the more that gets done, But in reality, there's no ethical labor under capitalism where workers are forced to work long hard hours while the owners profit by doing nothing.
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In this case, the developers made a predictable income and the owners lost half a billion dollars. That is the trade off being made.
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That's late stage capitalism in full effect. If you exploit your workers, your business is doomed to collapse. Infinite expansion is unsustainable.
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So the profit motive will lead to better working conditions, then
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That's if the company actually acts optimally
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So the free market will kill those suboptimal companies
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You're going to be very, very disappointed by your communist utopia friend
But shine on you crazy diamond. Shine on
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If your hour 8 is as good as your hour 4 it's because your output is uniformly garbage
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But my hour 8 is the only good one
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It really depends on what you are doing. Mental work seriously declines in quality and productivity after a couple of hours. Simple physical stuff like assembling stuff on a factory line on the other hand you can keep up all day.
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More hours equals more productivity
If productivity plummets, look for time-theft allievating measures
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Remember when the most expensive game ever was Shenmue at $70 million and it took like fifteen years to top that
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It took 8 years, so yeah it checks out.
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The eight year dev time is BS. The person said they had the idea for concord 8 years ago, then at some point they founded the studio and began working on it with a handful of people and it has only been in full production for a couple of years.
Sony first party blockbusters (HFW, TLOU2, Spider-Man 2 ignoring the licensing cost) have been fairly consistently around the $200m dev cost mark. There's no way Concord cost twice that much. And if it did Sony would not have charged less than full retail for it. Either that number's made up or it's combined cost of development + an estimate for post launch support for like 5+ years or something.
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lol imagine working there, seeing the character designs, and having to pretend they're amazing or lose your job
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I'm taking concord and all these games/movies as a personal career lesson. If I see my company heading towards the iceberg, I'm going to go out swinging and print every email of me warning them on my way out. I feel like being the only person telling Sony they were setting 400M on fire has to look good on a resume.
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So you're why the game failed, it was sabotaged from within! That's why it wasn't real modern game development.
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Don't put any effort in just collect a mountain of proof it's not your fault
2024 business tactics
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It can't be your fault if you never do any work in the first place
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There are a hundred more ways it could look bad depending on who you're talking to and not using the exact perfect words for that specific person.
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No matter what, never bad mouth your previous company until you've gotten the next job. It's like an unspoken rule.
Everyone knows the last place you worked was probably terrible, otherwise you wouldn't have left. They also know that their place they are interviewing you to work for is also awful, otherwise they wouldn't have a job opening. The trick is neither of you tells the other until you're hired.
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If you aren't a total neurodivergent (yes, I know which site im on) it's easy to talk your way around why you want to leave. It's really just an IQ test to see if you're at least able to talk your way around that
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Now you get no severance.
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When you have an art friend that keeps showing you their terrible work and you're not sure if you're r-slurred or they're r-slurred.
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The screenshot doesn't even give away what Concord is supposed to be. Is it Sir Lancelot's squire in Monty Python? Is it an airplane?
I have such low media literacy and am borderline illiterate so in this moment I am randomly touching symbols on my potty TV.
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After reading about the Professor for me it's INSANE that such a person can literally dictate what possibly hundreds if not THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE do on the game. It's fricking crazy and proof gaming is fricked.
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What Professor?
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edit
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Chuds handed an easy win and they still fumble like r-slurs
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If there is 1 transgender at a table and another person joins, there is 2 transgenders at a table.
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Typical fart huffing designer lol
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Supposedly a woke chick in high position larping as the teacher for the devs.
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Who? Reading what?
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awesome drip mr emperor
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The designs were two grounded for a goofy multiplayer shooter. I kinda like the trash can if it was in a scifi open world game. Green dude is unredeemable tho.
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I certainly hope so. PlayStation deserves to crash and burn. Gameless butt console…
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Heck I like Playstation (to an extent) but even I think this is r-slurred. "Star Wars-like potential"… How about you guys just focus on making a single GOOD game, and if it does well, THEN you can do spinoffs and make it a franchise! They always try to put the cart before the horse!
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That model is outdated. Deliver a live cart first alongside a horse roadmap, where small horse chunks will be delivered over several years
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But does the horse have armor?
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I consider myself a sony fan. Ps3 and ps4 were my first non nintendo baby consoles, but the ps5 is a disgrace. Sony shutting down japan studio was the signal PlayStation had died snd their remaining studios would only make movie slop. Ps1 had many off beat, artsy, and innovative games from around the world. Sony used to have an identity as a cutting edge company who published alot of games which was true up till the ps3 era. Then in the ps4 the generic movie slop began outnumbering the neat stuff and now in the ps5 its only generic movie slop.
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They should make it run steam games
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Inshallah only NintendARYANS shall triumph.
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But it has God of Soy Ragingcück
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It's wild that PS5s are selling so well considering there isn't peepee to play on them
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sony just went all in on what g*mers knew was the truth for a long time now, that normies just buy these machines to play cod and fifa and they'll do it by the millions
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I have an Xbox and exclusively play Halo on it so I'm no better
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I'm going to commit mass murder over this information bros
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In
minecraftthe Infamous/Prototype open world crossov-Oh wait.
You can't
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I dont know if this is true or not but i choose to believe only so i can be angry.
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I hate Sony so much
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Holy shit, they cancelled all the edgykino in favour of Concordslop...
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Gray colorless goyslop combined with gay colorless goyslop
Wow the world is at a loss
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