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Apparently Civ 7 ends in the 1950s so they can sell the rest as DLC

https://www.ign.com/articles/civilization-7-review

"And, peculiarly, Civ 7 only really covers history up to about 1950. You get planes and tanks, but there are no home computers or helicopters in this tech tree at launch. The final science victory condition is launching the first manned spaceflight – quite a step back from setting up an exoplanet colony"

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The conversation right now is "Civ is always shit until it gets DLC," but this one is going to stay shit.

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This is even worse than I thought. I wonder if they're going to introduce a 4th era, or if that's really it.

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Aube they're being smart and building an engine to use for a while.

Ie. Era 5 is the alpha Centauri game, or you can new ages trigger midgame etc

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Alternatively, they're drastically rejiggering the globohomo era in light of new history

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Welp. Back to Civ 5 I go

https://media.tenor.com/GLVCw4f0GVIAAAAx/tom-sad.webp

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If you want a new Civ experience just try the older versions. The AI was better at warfare back before the single unit per tile rule.

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I am always fascinated by how video game franchises manage to release future games with worse features and not even in a trying a different feature way but just missing things they have figured out how to do in the previous game.

How does that happen? Missing technological knowledge within a game sequel.

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It really was just trying a different feature, people criticized the stack of doom plenty. Their AI has always been dumb, but putting your entire army on a single stack was simple enough for it to handle.

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Now justify assassin's creed.

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Ubisoft is a shitty company full of middle managers that design games to appeal to the stock market

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Explain why it did not work this time.

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These questions make me feel like chat gpt :marseysweating:

Sales data seem to have peaked with AC 3 and 4; 5 was super buggy and then the later ones are kind of budget dark souls at a time where the novelty of that style of game is waning.

Unisoft is also notorious for cannibalizing from itself; every year we have new far cry, watchdog and assassin's creed game that feel like cluttered collectathons. Their star wars game last year bombed because of this + especially boring gameplay

AC shadows is not yet out but I think fatigue with the company is the real hype killer. DEI stuff doesn't really register with normies, but boring games do

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My conclusion was that ubisoft didn't actually get worse necessarily but that other studios already surpassed them in doing what they are trying to do but better.

Assassin's creed Japan failed the moment they couldn't create gameplay and story better than Ghosts of Tsushima.

Watch dogs failed because Legion set in the UK sucked.

Far cry should still be fine in my opinion and a sequel in that category should be a success as they have no other competition in that type of game.

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Can't justify it, but the explanation is that they no longer have the talent on staff

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Thank you for your honesty.

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because we don't reward the fricking people who made the fricking game great, we reward the fricking people who funded the fricking game, who then inevitably trivialize the fricking people who actually made the fricking game great.

in companies where the fricking OG devs stay in control, usually the fricking quality stays high

capitalism sucks. markets between consumers and actual producers have limits, but can take us a fricking lot farther than capitalism.

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Wrong. Capitalism sucks at respecting a peak in time. Capitalism is great at raising the average bar.

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cope more r-slur

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I'm still schocked and disgusted how much peole praise (and praised) the move from clunky doomstacks to a worse system.

It's so incredibly restrictive and limiting, it doesn't feel like civilizations clashing but like children fighting in a sandbox. And worst of all it made fighting AI trivial.

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Civ always felt like a boardgame, if you want convincing simulations play eu4

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I don't know about 1-3, but 4 had doom-stacks, and the newer ones went with UTP chaning the formula.

Anyway, my preferred system is from Amplitude games, where your army is in a stack and deploys one unit per tile during battle creating a battlefield on the map. Which ironically enough looks to be somewhat implemented in Civ 7 with generals.

Also, EU4 combat is boring as shit. Worst out of all 4x games I ever played.

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convincing simulation of what?

being a wizard that stares at a map waiting for his mana to regenerate so he can click the "increment number" button and cycle through casus belli?

EU4 is cookie clicker with a map

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Civ VI is good though

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same but did you know when CIV 5 launched there was no religion in the game?!

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Also the combat was so wonky that battles would have completely different results than the expected outcome

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>cant play as Gorbachev

https://media.tenor.com/LxTPiEUIV4oAAAAx/mi-hanno-messo-windows11.webp

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there are no home computers or helicopters in this tech tree at launch

and they want people to spend >$100 on this :mjlol:

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the writing was on the wall when they decided to gatekeep Britain behind paying twice as much for a "deluxe" version of the game. there's barely any European civs right now. there's no shortage of heya hoya civs, though.

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Have not followed this slop at all but wtf is this "Ages" shit, I thought the point was that you can go from discovering agriculture to space flight with a single playthrough.

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real civiliaztion should have ended in the 1950s so we wouldn't have to deal with this sht

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Cuban Missile Crisis should've been it smh

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Big oof if true. Call it the Sims dilemma - you have a popular franchise that the devs want to monetize through drip-feeding DLC, but the only way to do this is to release a new major version of the game and hold back a bunch of content that was in the older versions since you have no new ideas and then release that as the new DLC. I hate it and will wait until there's a complete package on sale for $20 5 years from now to play.

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I hate it and will wait until there's a complete package on sale for $20 5 years from now to play.

The thing is that you don't even need to do that

Just play the old versions

Heck, if you get really bored, play a fan version

Support slop in any way and you'll just keep getting slop

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Support slop in any way and you'll just keep getting slop

https://media.tenor.com/Cq-y1JworAkAAAAx/hey-now-yeah.webp

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Nice try devs.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17187151446911044.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735584487Pd3ql1pai5_mfA.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17177781034384797.webp

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Civ is for people so neurodivergent they can't even find friends to play a real board game with

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Being that tistic would imply paradox games

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Yes, I consider the Civ series peak normie. I completely stopped caring about this series the moment I discovered more tism-coded games.

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:marseytr#uthnuke:

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the world peaked in the early 50s anyway

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Not if you were a racial minority, lgbt+, a woman, or most tragically, someone who desires easy access to high quality porn. Times were tough :marseysad:

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Kids these days will never understand the struggle of peeling apart the pages of woods porn, when they'd gotten stuck together by mildew and dried semen, or ripping the lingerie section out of the Sears Wishbook without mom finding it a few days later, hidden under your mattress.

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It's all been downhill since The Marshall Plan....

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750s :#scoot:

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world can't peak without US existing. :smoke:

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I don't know I think the move from dial up to DSL and cable was probably the peak

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TIL:hippies are DLC.

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As long as I can nuke stuff

:#marseynukegoggles:

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I like a man who knows what he wants

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They make one game and still frick it up

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that sounds ok to me

are people really going to miss the giant death robots???

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YES

:#taysneer:

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Thw robots were lame, but removing an entire era from the game has more consequences than removing death robots.

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*withholding

You can bet they've already developed it

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Cringe

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First DLC : Martin Luther Sneed Jr & Che Goyvara

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Surprise surprise the reviewer "Leana" is a :marseytrain2:

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Redpill me on Civ, I was an RTShit most my life and never gave the turn based stuff a glance until like, 2009

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It's cool if you're ADHD af since you can do other stuff while you play

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Best one is 5. Civ 6 is shit in a lot of ways. They're extremely slow games that take hours and hours to complete, even on the smallest maps and fastest modes.

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You get to nuke Ghandi

Ghandi gets to nuke you

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