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The services, which will replace the controversial Tavistock clinic, will be led by medical doctors rather than therapists and will consider the impact of other conditions such as autism and mental health issues.

How the frick was this not the case in the first place?

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Trans first, ask questions later.

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Just like everything in the States:

Bulldoze through and regulate after devastating consequences are seen.

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>regulate after

>ignores prior regulations

Yeah, we've got an r-slur here.

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No long term side effects


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Snappy, bring up gender demographics of therapists

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:#parrotkazakhstan:

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:#marseyextinction:

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therapists

:mar#seyobey:

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Tavistock wasn't led by doctors? :marseywtf2:

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Look up Nolan Investigates: Stonewall (produced by the BBC!) looking into how activists leveraging public pressure with their inclusivity ratings were taken more seriously than actual researchers/clinicians in both the media and the NIH.


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So incompetence.

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Activism actually had a highly significant role in changing homosexuality from a mental illness. I was actually kind of bummed out when I read how much. The lines between shouting r-slurs and science have always been blurred and there's no constant good side or bad side.

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I mean it still should be, it's just one of those mental conditions that no one cares about like caffeine addiction.

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Doc’ors are no’oriously transmisic

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Great time to invest in a career as an autism doctor! No foreseeable shortage of work!

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I thought this entire time it was fricked up doctors pushing this stuff lol

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Whoever was in charge or whatever group was incompetent.

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:#marseypikachu2: impossible

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Being trans is the new goth or edgelord atheist for zoomers. I thought I was such a badass as a kid for declaring myself an atheist. Same shit with child :!marseytrain:s, but much gayer.

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But the kids aren't going to outgrow this "trend".

Their role models are trans, their online friends are trans, they have no IRL friends, they see how brutal the harassment is toward those who detransition, and any steps they take towards transitioning pushes them deeper into the sunk cost fallacy.

It's nothing like early internet childhood phases, it's more like joining a militant suicide cult.

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But the kids aren't going to outgrow this "trend".

Most of them will, or at least enough will to make it clear that the "detrans is extremely rare and should not be used to question someone's identity" is a lie. Going to college, entering the workforce, entering into long-term relationships that can lead to parenthood - these are the sorts of social disruptions that can be leveraged to make these sorts of changes even by extremely online people. Most transtrenders aren't on HRT or getting mastectomies or whatever so the costs of switching back are not that high.

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entering into long-term relationships that can lead to parenthood - these are the sorts of social disruptions that can be leveraged to make these sorts of changes even by extremely online people.

Aren't trains sterile?

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Most of them are not going to go that far.

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it's more like joining a militant suicide cult.

Except for all the cool parts

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Militant online loser cult.

Wait, am I talking about :marseytrain2:ism or rdrama.net? :marseysmug2:

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ONE OF US, ONE OF US

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Both

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Yeah, that would be way more badass.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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idk programmer socks and ikea sharks are pretty heckin cute~~

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But the other cults offer free drinks.:#marseykoolaid:

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Do they offer bathtub HRT and gfuel? Didn't think so.

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Whilst there are a lot of factors keeping them on the tracks, there are ways to de-rail a locomotive. I've seen more than one ftm or enby just give up on all that shit and either re-become women or swap to a do-nothing surgey & hormone free form of non-binary once they met a dude they liked. Changing schools or jobs, or moving can cause this shift as well. I choose to hope that in a decade or so the only people stuck riding this train will be the folks that were inevitably going to be some flavour of insufferable, and if those folks castrate themselves I really don't care.

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>or swap to a do-nothing surgey & hormone free form of non-binary once they met a dude they liked

This is what's going to happen to most of them. They'll still claim to be "trans-adjacent" or whatever buzzword they come up with, but just like nonbinaries, they'll be cis for every practical purpose. Every practical purpose except their self-image, of course - spend a decade convincing yourself that being cis and hetero is at best boring and at worst outright evil and you'll never shed that attitude.

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Yes pipi don’t grow back

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Yep, the “cult” terminology is absolutely accurate, this shit is Scientology for zoomers who grew up on Tumblr and Reddit.

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But the kids aren't going to outgrow this "trend".

Good. Gullible people are a liability for society.

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You're right kek, it's going to be like how many boomer hippies that were part of the New Left just never moved on, and right until the day they died they just kept on smoking pot and living in shitty vans or trailers, ranting and raving about the American Industrial complex and Reagan.

This whole trans thing is going to be a similar sort of thing as a subculture, and in forty years time you'll still see woke shit oldies going on about gender affirmation and racism non-stop.

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It's a social contagion. last decade it was depression and cutting, the decade before it was fashionable atheism, and every second teenage girl was convinced she was a bisexual, the decade before that it was eating disorders.

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Cutting bisexuality and eating disorders never went out of fashion. Granted i might be biased because i specifically look for chicks with those traits

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Part of me thinks it's all part of the never ending mission of every generation of kids to piss of their parents in some new way, but it's an escalating game - each new generation is fairly immune to whatever it did to piss off its parents, so each generation needs something more extreme and stupid than the one before it, swearing a lot, or drinking, or smoking weed, or listening to heavy metal, or getting a tattoo, or being an atheist just won't cut it anymore. Now :marseytrain:ism is mainstream, the next generation after zoomers are going to have to take it one step further... I predict they'll be amputating digits and limbs for 'cosmetic' reasons or something equally r-slurred.

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Lol turning out as a normal person to stick it to your parents

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They should horseshoe around and become conservatives to make them angry next time

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I'm sure there won't be a bunch of 40 year old men giving these young children ideas about what would REALLY piss off their parents

:#marseygroomer:

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Based. Sticking your peepee in crazy is unironically the most optimal move. I live for alt girls :altgirlblackjack: :!marseybiting:

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I love the whole "dont stick your peepee in crazy" thing because it means less competition

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Nothing against alt girls, but sticking your peepee in crazy is seldom worth it. I know the stereotype is that they're incredible in bed, but that's just a myth - some of the kinkiest girls I've dated seemed incredibly proper and respectable until you got in the bedroom with them.

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idk if they're any better in bed but I just like the crazy b-word personality and the alt girl look.

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Fair

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They've just aged with you.

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>implying i ever stopped going after college girls

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Well for EDs and cutting, the tumblr height of the 2000-10s is pretty much dead though. God darn, those were the days.

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Fashionable atheism somehow seems the least cringe out of all of them wtf

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we need to bring back atheism because now there are a bunch of zoomers who identify as religious to be edgy. like some cute twink zoomer from iowa becoming a sunni muslim

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every second teenage girl was convinced she was a bisexual

I'm glad I was a teenager then, and not now. Good times.

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Except we don't get irreversible damage from declaring ourselves as atheists lol

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My soul will forever wonder in samsara for my current godlessness maybe I'll be reborn as an insect or something. :marseysadcat:

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Sounds like a good deal compared to having to dilate for the rest of your life :marseythumbsup:

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It's not too late to repent

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I’d rather be temporarily a 🚂 than eternally dammed but that’s just me

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>temporarily

Lol okay eunuch

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I mean temporary relative to eternal darnation.

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Most trains are also anti religion so you get both

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for real though, I doubt it'll still be a massive thing 5-10 years from now

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lol, in 5-10 years the lawsuits over the puberty blockers will start rolling in, and that's when the crackdowns and disingenuous deflection from the media will begin. Money talks, when this isn't profitable anymore groomers will have to get their kicks in the shadows again.

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That won't happen. They're too far to go back, most trans would just deny any problem in their life.

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And a lot of them will rope

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Inshallah

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deny any problem in their life

You mean blame it on transphobia?

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srsposting time

I have some friends and they recently informed their friend circle that their 12 year old daughter came out as bisexual.

I really try not to offer parenting advice to other people as I don't have kids of my own but at the same time it's difficult not to get frustrated with obviously terrible parenting happening right in front of you.

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Honestly I'd just be glad it's that and not trans. The kid is probably just doing it to fit in with their peer group and it doesn't involve body mutilation.

Though it is a little alarming to be happening at that age and not at, say, 15.

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The kid is probably just doing it to fit in with their peer group

It is 100% this that is happening. She's too darn young to have a clue what she's talking about. Unfortunately public schools are full of dumb children with worthless parents doing everything they can to not be involved in their kids lives being groomed in groomercords at what I suspect is a much higher rate than people want to admit.

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12 is a reasonable time to work out that you want to eat kitty surely?

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:#marseypedosnipe:

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When I was 13 my dumb friends listened to Marilyn Manson and claimed they worshiped the devil in order to piss off their parents. Nowadays kids say they're non-binary. Every generation does this, they'll grow out of it eventually.

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there is a funny irony that Zoomers and Boomers hate Marilyn Manson and Harry Potter, both for completely different reasons but listening to/reading those things is seen as equally bad by those two generations

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Goths and Atheists at least keep their tits and peepees.

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What's with all the Chud news coming out of the UK these days about :marseytrain2:s?

Chudbros.... A-are we, dare I say it, winning?

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So far only in the UK, no one considers taking the :marseybong:s a win. It's to soon for :chudsey:s to declare a win.

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Must... expand areas of operation

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The new fashionable take is gender is not real and need to be abolished.

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that's just the radfem take

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I thought I was the only one who identified as agendered demigirl

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neoliberal: evidence-based policy except when it goes against our priors

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I can not think of a single leftist policy, in the last decade, that has been evidence based. It's all predictive, with the caveat that the policy must be 100% successful to not cause harm.

It's the perfect actually being the enemy of the good.

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That's the idea. Having your progress be something you can track is the last thing they want. Just ambiguously say people are dying, and that these changes will stop it in 100years.

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What evidence is there to find by medical doctors? Being trans is not a medical condition.

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Going from not having a medical condition to cutting off your peepee is a good thing, all doctors agree

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Being trans is absolutely a medical condition: it's being an neurodivergent with a hyperfocus on gender. Like, you know how r-slurs focus on stuff like trains, or legos, or Star Wars, or whatever? Well, the most recent online neurodivergent fad was/is being a :marseytrain:/sissy.

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It's the Neoliberal Way™

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From a UKPOL comment:

When they say kids. What age do they mean? Surely no one can know with 100% certainty if they are in the wrong body before going through their teenage years.

I can't believe that people seriously believe and accept that it's possible to be "in the wrong body".

What happened to the rationality that Redditors used to be so obnoxiously proud about when atheism was the most interesting way to express their goodthink?

Anyone who adopts and perpetuates these :!marseytrain: ideas is complicit in the spread of the :!marseytrain: menace and needs to be sent on the same train carriages as the :!marseytrain:s when the time comes.

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I was born in the wrong body. I'm meant to be a chad but I'm in the body of a fat thin-peepeeed manlet.

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Being born in wrong body wont change with HRT and cutting

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>the mods take an extremely aggressive position with regards to curating "acceptable" opinions on this subject

that's a good thing. in fact they should be even more aggressive

-picrew avi

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the increase in young people coming out as trans or non binary is actually a consequence of the far too rigid gender roles we have in our society

Yeah because in the past gender roles were so much more fluid.

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Lol /r/neoliberal screaming "who's brigading me :marseyworried:"

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Reaganposters' Revenge from inside the house.

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