Prison Abolition drama as the rats cling to the sunk ship

"I won't answer the most obvious 101 questions about my fringe ideas" is such a perfect summation of US leftists

except it's not

I can't believe college academia is still taking this shit seriously. I'm having to take a 100 level Geography class where an entire week was spent on prison abolition. In a Geography class.

admitting you dont take racialized ans black women seriously on the same account you use to simp for kamala harris is crazy work

it's amazing how all you need to dismiss something is a bullshit four panel caricature with no attribution d

It's not a caricature, it was drawn by this person

it's weird how you assumed I was talking about the art

You called it a 4 panel caricature. It's not a caricature because the artist isn't exaggerating anything. You were talking about the arte when you mentioned "4 panel caricature"

it's always very funny when people tell me what I meant by what I said. if you don't have anything other than intentionally misunderstanding me, be on your way

"can't believe people ever took this seriously" says guy who never actually listened to what people had to say about it in the first place

I was at many, many, many BLM protests

The best one was where instead of prison your family member's murderer takes their place in your family as penance. Your brain has to be mush to think that's a good idea.

still can't believe people take the criminal prosecution system that capitulates to dripping charges against the new god king seriously

i think it's good to lock up murderers

A 2 month old was murdered by police but yeah glad we stopped caring

I'm glad we have prisons to put those murdering cops in

this, quite notably in fact, never happens. which is kinda a central tenet of prison abolition, yet another thing that scares you because you don't understand it. frickin dork

If there is a silver lining to be found in all of this is that the Bernie/Warrenworld left is dead and buried. Nobody will ever take student loan forgiveness or withdrawing from long term wars or progressive stimulus or antitrust seriously again and good riddance.

all of those things are good and will survive

i prefer not to give government handouts to kids earning 3x the median salary just cause they're angry they can't afford a yacht

In 2019, NYTimes did a fawning, unintentionally hilarious profile of a prison abolitionist who responded to such questions - from children - by citing Spain, a country that very much has prisons - the kids walk away unimpressed - she later takes unearned credit for "lifting" them

They put George Floyd in a golden casket while everyone else had to watch their grandma get buried on zoom. Obama was there and everything. Kamala was bailing out random murderers. Genuinely don't know why you were surprised.

Progressives believe all sorts of stupid stuff. Many of them still believe that a man can become a woman.

:m#arseytransrentfree:

We should have lighter sentences for all crimes across the board.

This reads very plainly as a right wing satire. Stunning to think it was made in earnest

My favorite part of her book is where she said she was opposed to even putting murderous white supremacists in prison.

it's not a dream, it's a better world. guess you are satisfied with how things are; and with a cushy job and platform why wouldn't you be?.........

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The thing is you totally could abolish prisons. Romans for the most part didn't have prisons (it was reserved for political crimes) but they had lots of options to punish people. You just need escalating gradation of penalties starting with monetary penalty, corporal punishment, enslavement and death penalty. Then with death penalty we can have multiple tiers starting with strangulation and ending with crucifixion.

This is probably not what prison abolitionists have in mind

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bro romans totally had dank holes in the building where they would chain you for being a criminal LOL

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ya it was super dank we hotboxin the hole brooo dduuuuude weed lmAOOOO

downmarseyd, stupid stoner. get clean.

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Maybe for processing, but the idea of imprisonment as punishment for commoner/pleb offenders was post-medieval. Even medieval Europe didn't have jails/prisons as punishment for commoners. It was closer to the Roman model.

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I've said this before and I'll say it again: corporal punishment works and is a far cheaper and less intrusive option than jailing someone for months/years for non violent crimes.

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Does it? I honestly don't know, if you know a study or something I'd be grateful.

The only modern criminal justice system with corporal punishment I've looked at is Singapore's, and it's in addition to prison time, never a stand alone punishment. They do have super low crime rates, but it's hard to disentangle that from the overall harshness of the justice system, the demographics, the camera coverage, etc.

The guards are trained to do as much damage as possible per cane stroke. They relentlessly practice their technique, get swole, and compete with each other. They switch every five strokes so they can go all out.

The prisoner's flesh is split in 1-3 strokes, they piss and shit themselves by 8. If they pass out, a doctor will check to make sure they aren't literally dying, but it continues.

Max strokes is 24 but even half that will wreck them. Prisoners can't walk afterwards. It's cripplingly painful for two weeks at least, and they spend a month or two face down and immobile. Permanent scars and often permanent pain and other issues.

It's pretty fricked up.

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Yeah the way Singapore does it goes a bit far. I was thinking more in line with the royal navy. The lash also drew blood and left scars but it instilled discipline without permenantly wrecking the sailors.

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