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:pooner: :pooner: What happens to my birth certificate that says "M" when Trump signs the executive order? Is there anywhere to flee? : FTMVenting

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Yes hello I am treating myself to a low-effort post-trump :marseytrain:post :marseylickinglips:

I plan on leaving the country or offing myself when my birth certificate gets changed back

Very masculine response :marseysmughips:

I currently live in a blue state with a republican nut-job governor. He will likely take Trump's side with every executive order he signs that can be enforced by the state, so my birth certificate and gender markers are likely to be changed back to 'F'.

https://media.giphy.com/media/blqEBWV6iFjGM/giphy.webp ahhhh shit neighbor they gon change a single letter on a meaningless piece of paper, better crash out :shyyt:

What happens then? When other countries realize the US's attack on freedom of expression, will they let us in? I'm considering my emergency fleeing options right now.

:rea#lly: oh yeah you're going to 'flee' the US are you bud?


The immigrants process is lengthy and expensive no matter where you go. There will be barriers that exist bc you are trans. For example, Korea is a no go. Iran, Iraq, Afganistán, also no gos.

Thank you for pointing out that Afghanistan is a 'no-go' I had no idea :marseyclueless:

By god do not let that sick fascist twat outlive you. You will live longer than him. Don't you dare give up.

This person uses ChatGPT as a therapist, manly behaviour :marseychad:

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My self-worth is intricately tied to one letter on a government form that I pretty much never look at, I'm mentally healthy

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You don't have your birth certificate framed on your wall, and look at it regularly to remind you what gender you are?

You sound odd.

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Chris-chan Sailor Moon poster-energy

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Okay (F)

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And if you change it I'm killing myself. Not a mental illness.

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>What happens to my birth certificate that says "M" when Trump signs the executive order?

Your tits will immediately grow back.

Sorry, but it's EXECUTIVE LAW!

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My birth certificate says "L" :marseycry:

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For Ligma?

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attack on freedom of expression

Huh? You can still express yourself however you want. Just cause I identify as a 100% street neighbor doesnt mean my birth certificate wont list my as a pasty yt

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>attack on freedom of expression

Holy frick, now that they were voted out of power, they are suddenly in favor of freedom of expression? !transphobes !chuds !nooticers :#bruh:

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Many such cases!

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>my abject delusion is freedom of expression, now say it to or go to jail

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Everything is a delusion, but yes

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Hate speech is the most important speech to protect as well. Laws protecting free expression are never going to matter for people who say safe and popular things, they only get called into question for unpopular and unpalatable speech.

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Fix your heart or DIE

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Fix Your Heart

Yeah, it's called "stop smoking", Mr. Lynch.

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Bardfinns right (as usual) the irony cope is overused by rightoids

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I'll fix @PillsburyDoughboy's heart when :marseytrain2:s start acting with the feminine grace of David Duchovny in drag. Trans lives matter

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:#marseytrumpwrong:

>Matal v. Tam (2017)

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Freedom from hurt feelings is a basic human right

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Some people just need a wake up call

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Specifically freedom of expression, not freedom of political speech.

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can we just restart the species already?

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"No not like that" etc

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do german birth certificates specify race? makes sense but still surprising :marseynotes:

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Idk I dont think Ive ever looked at my birth certificate tbh

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it makes you dysphoric :marseysad:

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:marseydepress#ed:

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Yeah my birth certificate doesn't even say flaming homo on it

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>FTM

>But has M on birth certificate

/u/transmanwhocan

Then what's the point of calling yourself FTM if you're claiming you were never female in the first place?

Also, more like trans man who literally can't lmao. :#marseykekw:

So many of these 20 something dipshits literally have 0 idea of what being trans actually is and they rather go through some KGB level of effort revisionism of their s*x instead.

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Because birth certificates are legal documents not medical ones, and are how you go about a bunch of legal :marseytrain: shit.

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They're legal documents with medical information on them. Shut the frick up, Grue.

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Nope it's the foundation of ID. There's different forms for medical. Birth certs are used to confirm time of birth for medical and nothing else. Unless they're like… an infant that has no other documentation currently :marseyhmm: no actually they'd have medical documentation already from the live birth.

But no the distinction between legal document and medical document is a real one, and BC is not medical.

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It's a legal document with medical information on it.

Your s*x designated on your birth certificate is literally your first piece of medical information about you being documented.

Even if you were right, its still fricking r-slurred to make it M if you're FTM because then the F in FTM would be irrelevant.

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Your birth s*x is in medical documents well before you get a BC issued

I'm sure in a perfect world TRAs and normies could agree to put "FtM" on it but the idea of adjusting BCs to begin with is to make :marseytrain: accommodations backwards compatible with systems that haven't been radically changed in over a century.

It's a matter of changing as few things as possible because each decision point and layer of complexity is years of bureaucratic handwringing and debate

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I'm sure in a perfect world TRAs and normies could agree to put "FtM" on it

Wouldn't make sense either. If its a legal "birth document" as you claim, how can a 0 second year old consent to transitioning?

It's a matter of changing as few things as possible

By changing every document that came before you :marseytrain2: out? Math not mathing, honey. :#marseymath:

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Changing the way one document is filed and revised to make every other change go as close to "by the old rules" as possible is the path of least resistance for legal transition, as far as I can tell.

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You pointed out Afghanistan, but what is that list?

Iran, Iraq, Afganistán, also no gos.

Maybe they should say Somalia is a no go too, or we risk someone escaping there from Christofascist US.

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On second thought, let's not add it :marseyrapscallion:

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Birth certificate is a state document. Trump only controls federal documents. :marseyretard3:

That said, idk how the feds are gonna handle giving out passports that must match biological s*x when the state documents used for proving identity have false information on them.

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It'll say F (M)

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They wont. Even if that EO didn't immediately get blocked (which it will be) it would require a pretty huge change in how passports are issued and CBP & USCIS processing which would take years. There isn't a current way for USCIS to identify someone's birth gender if it disagrees with their birth certificate, they don't have access to that kind of data.

I am enjoying the POTUS of fiscal responsibility pissing away money on things that are going to be changed again in 4 years.

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There isn't a current way for USCIS to identify someone's birth gender if it disagrees with their birth certificate

I believe the Mk. 1 Eyeball is equipped with this function

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Just focus on the seething

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None of the shit on the eo is actually enforceable. Its basically nothing more than an elevated transphobic blog post.

@ticktocktrainbutpunk stand with israel

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the stuff about federal prisons is. and the stuff about campus speech though that was pretty much already happening anyway.

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It's not false information tho

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I can't imagine it being very difficult to move states and steal the identity of a dead person, and some ftms pass quite well as soyboys, so why not give it a shot?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Disappear_Completely_and_Never_Be_Found

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>released in 1985

Good luck following those procedures

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Put your own spice on it

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737466584ui6IkV1J8oZeOA.webp

I don't expect :marseyburger: infrastructure to have evolved much the last 40 years

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Just cover yourself in gasoline.

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will they let us in?

Why would some country let a poor in with pre-existing psychological conditions who doesn't know the language or culture?

You're not a refugee fleeing from a war torn nation (even though in your fantasy world you think you are).

These "people" are so out of touch with reality and think countries just let you in

:#marseyxd:

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I can go anywhere in the world I want because I'm a high skilled employee. I would never do that because I'm a high skilled employee

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I can go anywhere in the world I want because I'm a high skilled employee.

Sure you can sweaty.

:#mjlol:

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Literally job offers from euro states yearly with offers of interest free mortgages and fast tracked citizenship, but I would take a massive hit on my income. No thanks

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:#surejan:

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I also have a large well shaped peepee

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Not skilled enough to know yuros have countries not states.

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City states, most are tiny compared to American states. It's so people don't conflate tiny European nations with anything important

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Even the normies are getting annoyed by them now

>Exactly. But people don't like being told the "liberal paradise" of Europe doesn't want the US's disabled neurodivergent trans 20 year olds who take 5 very expensive medications and only have an associates degree. (I have nothing against people with disabilities, the LGBTQ, neurodivergent people, or 20 year olds for the record, I have just literally seen at least 1-2 posts by people with that exact description a month since the election)

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1i6qw28/drama_in_ramerexit_when_commenters_point_out_to/m8f5mz5/?context=8

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I plan on leaving the country or offing myself when my birth certificate gets changed back

All these empty threats every single election makes me want to write a bot that messages them all for updates whether they've left the country yet every month or something. And then I'll keep it running for 4 years until they've learnt their lesson.

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/u/transmanwhocan

More like trans man who cannot :marseydab: no trans women are women

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doesnt even have a TDick yet, is already an expert on it :marseyclueless:

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Put your birth certificate into several layers of plastic bags and bury it under the birdbath. When the feds come, say that it was lost in a boating accident. This way the letter on it will never change.

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Ok I've buried the feds under the bird bath. What do i do now.

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VISA and Mastercard [fedpost]

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I can find nothing in trumps executive order that means pooners or agps are about to forcefully detransititioned. Like he basically wrote a meaningless EO designed to cause vague seethe without any real legislative purpose

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That's 👏 our 👏 President! :marseytrump:

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The purpose is so it's impossible to arrest people for saying, "dude, lol" down the road

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They absolutely should flee the US, just like they fled from Twitter

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ChatGPT as a therapist to comfort during trumps presidency... my god are people stupid. GPT isn't hooked up to CNN, it can't know what he's doing...

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Hysterical b-word

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:#marseymanysuchcases: :#marseymanysuchcases: :#marseymanysuchcases:

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He just has to book a flight to London and claim he's actually a 10 year old fleeing civil war and he'll get a free hotel and dominoes for life.

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tbqh, claude AI is much better therapist than anyone you can find: doesn't stop after an hour, is magnitudes cheaper, actually gives good advice and analysis. plus they put foids out of work.

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only a sexbot with claude AI could put foids out of work

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gender markers are likely to be changed back to 'F'.

not a "gender marker." the "F" stands for biological s*x (female), not gender.

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GoFundMe owner reading all these posts like :marseymerchant:


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Not a mental illness btw

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u hold poop for many weeks then u release in a starbucks potty so clogged up and menial has to clean

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I wonder who gets treated worse in Afghanistan, foids or pooner :marseyhmmm:

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Nothing changes

Your documents expire

You renew them

Nothing changes because unless there's a gun to their head government workers don't do anything

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I thought gender was a social construct. Why does it matter what a paper says


Putting the :e: in spookie turkey merry new year donkey

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Very welcome in Bongland fellow dood.

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If this is your biggest problem in life it's clearly too easy. These people tell on themselves constantly :marseyeyeroll:

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/u/transmanwhocan PLEASE :marseybeanpleading: DO NOT K*LL YOURSELF! We at rDrama :marseysignup: support you! Visit /h/transgender if you need any allies. :marseyhearts:


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Very masculine response :marseysmughips:

actually killing urself is a moid response. foids do it far less, even if they try more

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yeah but she didn't kill herself she only complained online and threatened to which is foid behaviour

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