Trump may have jumped the gun last night bragging about his military meeting recruiting numbers, unlike Biden's kitty enbie military that lowered requirements for chicks and 
s. Looks like the recruiters have still been putting their finger on the scale. 
According to the report, trainees have been allowed to join at up to 19% above the standard -- meaning some male recruits may have had body fat percentages as high as 45% and female recruits reaching 55%, levels that would likely be considered morbidly obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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I had 8 applicants arrive to MEPS yesterday for a physical/enlist combination and 6 of them were both DQ'd for medical reasons and administratively for BF composition. One younger male was 12% over the standard and the RRNCO was positive "he was good."
If you actually say it out loud, in what world is a 17yo, non-athletic build who is 5' 9" and 257lbs able to make it through BCT.
This is after last year's reports that 70% of active duty is overweight and 20% is obese. (I'm curious though how much of this could actually be muscle mass overweight. That's probably being to generous though.)
https://www.cdc.gov/physical-activity/php/military-readiness/unfit-to-serve.html
I keep seeing other stuff about letting in more people failing the ASVAB, which I was under the impression in high school wasn't even a pass/fail and had a tier for "functionally r-slurred, would be a parking lot attendant as a civilian".
So both Biden and Trump just want the military full of fat, r-slurred people for some reason. Hope our drones are getting better for the war with China or there are going to be a lot more deaths from heart attacks than bullets on the beaches of Taiwan. In a fight, I would probably place bets on a bull 
and a roided up pooner over some thousand pound TLC show rejects, but who knows if either could beat a swarm of chinks with whatever dinnerware their catatonic families have cobbled into weapons on the Great Assembly Line of China.
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Isn't that something you can solve via controlling their diet and exercise in an army environment
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Yes but to get from morbidly obese to normal weight is going to take like an entire year or two unless you are willing to destroy their bodies in the process.
The body can only burn up so much weight in a day while still being functional the next.
So if you are fat, and they just stop feeding you altogether, you lose like 5-10 kg in a week or two but are physically incapable of anything beyond a slow tired walk.
To lose weight and still be able to do the marches you need to be fed at least twice a day or half rations thrice a day ( hypothetical number ), which means there is a max limit on how much weight you can lose in a day.
So after a certain number of kg it is impossible to lose all the required kg for an obese person who is at fat camp for only 3 or 6 months.
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Military would
never 
do that right 
!veterans
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Military actually cannot. Pretty sure US military cannot make you run a mile without food for two days at this point in time. The veterans thing is more like "frick this guy got injured for life but we don't wanna pay those bills".
A little different scenario. One is not damaging the goods you got the other is trying to avoid paying for the damages incurred to goods during deployment.
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Maybe
for POG and in a peace 
time
If we start prepping for or are in war many many rules
get bent or ignored lol
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of course but the US is not in war time right now. Unless the invasion of Greenland or Canada happens.
I am betting on an invasion of Canada.
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I would be okay destroying my body if it meant I kill canadians
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Tbh I think
the likeliness of an involvement in Gaza is way more likely sadly
But we are definitely prepping for something
Especially seem to be gearing up to fight
near peer adversaries
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Not at all. Israeli's promise to empty the place out. US in turn doesn't say bad things about Israel for emptying out Gaza for the US. Win win scenario for the imperialist west.
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There are no near peer adversaries. Nato isn't going to activate to protect Greenland. US isn't going to directly invade Denmark. An invasion of Canada is a US victory as Canada has no nukes.
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Near peer means Russia, China, or EU essentially. No reason for the move towards trying to penetrate body armor
and a few other things we've been working 
towards
We've been prepping
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How much does this actually occur? Ever time I'm surprised to hear about a VA coverage decision, it's in the direction of "ridiculous that it's considered service-related."
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Yeah, I get the idea that modern VA has really spun around from even 90s VA. I heard so many horror stories when I was young about guys getting iced out of treatment for this or that that was determined to be pre-existing by the military, even if it was aggravated by military stuff. Or waiting forever and ever for a VA appointment like Canadian healthcare. Now as an adult, most of the military guys I know are cheesing their way to the bank getting a new disability percent every year for some r-slurred sniffle they get every once in a while, "Oh, it must have been that desert air 15 years ago where I spent all that time in base." Dudes skipping health insurance at work because they can just stop by the VA.
Or veterans have always been completely full of shit, which is a possibility, but we have them recorded as getting fricked since before the revolutionary war, so who knows when the propaganda would have begun.
Let's see DOGE hit the VA. See how many fell for it awards can get printed in a single day.
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I have no idea how frequently it occurs. All I know is that it keeps getting mentioned on reddit so somewhere between never and very often.
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It looks like a lot of these ones already went through army fat camp and still came out obese for basic training.
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In the air force they wouldn't let you leave basic until you met the standards
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That's a special case. Substandard personel would turn it into ground force after all.
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Apparently
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When you're Five foot three and three hundred pounds
Army ought not to pay for your box of fudge rounds
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It is but that's considered inhumane these days lmao
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when the draft begins theyre gonna force the fats to take ozempic as part of basic training. This is the real reason they rolled back roe v wade
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I support forced defatification, how soon can they begin
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i thought
to even be chosen 
for basic 
you had to meet certain fitness requirements.
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Not anymore, that's what this story is about
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and those requirements be getting lowered bc of all the fats and we srent even at war/doing conscription yet
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That guy is overweight not morbidly obese.
This is morbidly obese.
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Morbidly obese is actually a lot skinnier than people think. You actually only need to be 300 lbs as a 6'0 male to qualify. Your pic is probably in the 400-500 range.
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Still fatter than the guy from the movie though?
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Yeah but in the 60's that was considered a fatass in america. It wasn't until like the 80's that Americans started ballooning up
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'member when Homer Simpson was considered humorously fat?
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We need a new term. What's worse than 'morbidly'? I am going to go with "Cataclysmically" obese to that 500 pound chonker.
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I'd settle for "ineligible for any public assistance" obese
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Currently it's looking like it will officially be super morbidly obese for 50+ and super super morbidly obese for 60+
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Fatty fatty 2 by 4
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Morbid is actually no longer a medical term and they rank it Class 1, Class 2, and Class 3.
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Im 6'2 and 250 and classified as morbidly obese. being fit is way smaller than folks think
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You are just obese. Morbidly obese is a BMI of 40+
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Your perception of BMI is warped by Americans.
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maybe.
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This will unironically be an issue with colleges in America starting around 2035. Birthrate below replacement level means that you have less and less choice in who you take.
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Fatties >
s. They can lose weight. You cant lose mental illness.
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If you go to a joint services military gym, the only General officers you will see are Marines lifting big
!firearms !fedposters
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i don't see the problem. put the fatties in their own basic that lasts longer than others but goes a bit slower. they'll lose the weight.
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They already did that though. These went through it and got cleared for basic training.
It's 6 months mix of personal time and actually being on a base.
https://www.army.mil/article/267217/future_soldier_preparatory_course_now_offers_recruits_opportunity_to_do_both_academic_fitness_tracks
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the personal time is where the whole thing falls apart. they can't have personal time.
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It's to start out. They do 90 days in some program, not sure how in depth it is, but I assume more like ROTC than half butt nutrition diary meetings, then if they can't get their body fat down, they go to a base for another 90 days.I'm under the impression basic training is 10 weeks, so they are at onsite fat camp for longer than average basic training.And their 3 month obesity program before that is probably more in depth than what people's insurance still makes them pay out the butt for to just recommend bariatric surgery at the end.I lied, I reread it and it looks like they're on bases the whole time, they just move. The first 120 days are some kind of academic thing that they're supposed to lose weight during, then they get 90 more days on pure fitness if they're still fat.Jump in the discussion.
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Lowering the standards for fatties is hilarious while ADHD is still disqualifying. Taking any stimulants in the past 12 months for the Army/Navy/Marines or 24 months for the Air Force is enough to disqualify you. If they really want to increase recruitment, might as well kill two birds with one stone and make meth standard issue again
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Holy shit that's FAT
I wonder how many 40+% hambeasts even try to enlist. Can't be that many, right ?
Tell me burgers
You're not that fat, are you ?
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It's probably pretty common, especially if they're already providing a fat camp. Military is that way out of failure. Remember too, these are POST fat camp recruits that were ok'd to go to basic training. Not sure if they were able to cheat at fat camp or were even worse.
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I mean its going to take awhile to get americans off the corn syrup diet
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Calorie tax when
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I honestly wish we incorporated into our health or health insurance system to basically charge people extra based on some form of combination of BMI + fat percentage (if your weight is mostly from muscle you should get a discount)
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If we were ever going to get universal healthcare, there would have to be mandatory fat camps. It should really be considered a medical intervention thing like being an alcoholic.
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Maybe that's what the military is turning into, a government-run fat camp.
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When war breaks out it's going to be about who has the more drone pilots anyway.
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Snapshots:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/02/25/army-breaking-its-own-body-fat-standards-meet-recruiting-numbers-watchdog-says.html:
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