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SB 20 has passed the Texas Senateโan important step forward to protecting our children. Iโm proud to support this legislation & look forward to seeing it become law.
— Senator Pete Flores District 24 (@PeteFlores_TX) March 13, 2025
A special thank you to my staff for their hard work, especially Kevin Patteson on passing his first bill! #txlege pic.twitter.com/4x2Q2o5yHo
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I assume Banning loli content makes libertarians more likely to molest children rather than less, taking into account that every country that is far more degenerate appears to have far lower rates of r*pes ( or was that false data? )
In conclusion:
If the correlation holds then moral strags would rather real children get molested than to feel like they are letting bad faith actors get away with it in terms of far lower crimes.
Discuss.
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Isn't that an excuse a lot of "maps" (libertarian) people use? Except they also go further into talking of child audio roleplay r*pe content and even how realistic looking images to child porn itself being legal leads to less crimes
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probably. I know to be okay with drinking water once a day even if I also know about a cult that supports drowning everybody who also supports drinking water once a day.
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something something analogy.
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No access to porn makes me r*pe adult women
!male feminists
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This is what the r-slurred libertarians say so they can do both.
Totally fake
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Moralist causing more children to get r*ped. Name a more iconic duo.
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You need to be put in a box and forgotten.
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abandoned marsey is sad bro remove that emoji pls
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How does it feel like to support laws that get more kids molested because they make you feel morally superior? You proud of yourself? You sound like you are proud of yourself for getting more kids molested via moral nagging.
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Bold of you to assume i have any morals and dont just want to put you in a box.
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I'm sure the only variable that varies between Japan and the West that would be relevant for molestation rates is whether loli porn is legal
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I would presume it to be one of the primary variables yes. Japan has blurry porn and they were legally allowed to have old men having s*x with teenage girls for far longer than America. So far the correlation is holding up.
Sorry moral Karen. You helped get more kids get molested because you couldn't handle the idea of letting some libertarian loser jerk off to drawings and get away with it.
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It's real!!!!
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How would you enforce this. I mean like what if somebody didn't know this and they had like 50000 generated images.
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As r-slurred as rightoids are (I imagine this is rightoided), and as much as I believe ALL drawings should be protected free speech, even loli, AI and controlnet make that kinda difficult.
With AI, you can run your collection of CSAM through it, change all the faces, or "AI-tize it", so that they're now "AI" images, and totally not real CSAM.
This bill STILL makes things kinda complicated: does this mean anime loli is legal, but genned anime loli is illegal? How much 'AI' in an image will make it illegal? What constitutes CSAM in a completely fake image (namely, how do you specify the age of someone who doesn't exist)? I'm sure reading about this bill would elucidate some things, but I'm not a paedo or Texan, so I dgaf. If this kind of thing means the death of loli, though, so be it.
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Wait, is redo of healer illegal in texas now? It contains basically loli porn.
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Also, the cops will have a much harder time tracking down real CP due to all the AI-gen stuff. At least that's the biggest argument I've heard. On the flip-side AI-gen's might actually end up dramatically reducing CP-demand, since it's exponentially cheaper to procure/produce, compared to anything real. Libertarians may deserve the woodchipper but they will surely still take the path of least resistance.
Or maybe it will just encourage them, who knows?
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Did violence go up or down with release of GTA games.
Did r*pes go up or down in countries with more porn consumption.
There is your answer.
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I've always had an r-slured idea: register paedophiles and give them pornography.
It's probably terrible because 1) all the pornography is never enough, 2) giving them pornography probably isn't a good idea in the first place, 3) it's disrespectful to the victims who want that shit deleted from existence in the first place, and 4) leaking that db would mean a buncha ideally no-harm paedos stupid enough to trust the government would now be on a hit-list.
But still I always think of it as an option. Is it an option? Or is it obviously too r-slurred?
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Give them animated shit and a doll to frick. It's not hard.
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Yeah, but now my tax dollars are going to underage real dolls?
I'm starting to see why 'kill all paedos and hope for the best' really is just the simplest decision.
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I mean, let them buy it.
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A noticeable minority of the population is dying without touching a real woman watching porn instead.
For straight people it is a bad idea because it makes them less likely to approach real women. With libertarians that is not an issue.
AI generated porn solves this problem.
...i got nothing for this one.
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good thing my dragon loli is actually 72,000 years old
!r-slurs
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The opposite is happening these days... your 18yo legal anime wifu is banned and you are a libertarian because the Japanese makes her look like she is only 16...
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That's the same thing! She's really legal but they made her look libertarianey
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Obscenity laws unironically make me want to
I missed the provision in the 1st amendment where freedom of expression is actually dependent on whether a committee of Karens finds it offensive or not.
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I like when the libertarians make themselves easy to spot. Don't have to aim as hard
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I somewhat agree with you since I lean libertarian (not the word-filter one lol), but this is clearly different than loli, since it can make it harder to track real CP.
Also, arguably your argument might be used for CP, which I assume neither of us support, so it's never that clear-cut.
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Porn can make it harder to track real r*pe victims.
See how r-slurred that sounds?
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Ai CP can be hard to tell apart from real CP, to a certain extent, which is not the case for lolishit
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I do not know the difference between AI CP, CP, and lolishit.
I am assuming the difference is :
AI CP - real looking vids generated by AI. ( I am against )
CP - Real vids of kids getting molested ( I am against )
Lolishit - cartoon kids getting molested ( I am okay with and don't care about )
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This bill is intended tl target the AI CP, from what I gather. It may also end up targetting lolishit, but it's a side effect that the politicians don't care about.
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The trick to running a successful business isn't to close all leakages but to leave controlled corruption at the bottom to stop the entire structure from exploding. The cartoons are that stabilizing leak in my opinion.
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I didn't read it tbh. IMO if it's trained on CP then it's reasonable to call the outputs CP. But banning AI generated megumins is silly.
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tbh i dont think the ai generated images should be considered cp but rather the fact that it was trained with cp should be enough to have those bytes purged with a magnet.
and i think this is a transitive thing, so you cant train a model on images that were generated by a model that was trained on cp, and every permutation of that.
although that does mean that if existing ai gen sites end up getting some of that cp taint on them, they'll have to purge the model and start again. which i'm fine with :)
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Agree, but what about AI that outputs "realistic" porn depicting children, being only trained on regular porn and regular images of children. See how quickly this gets muddy?
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!burgers You know who else has obscenity laws? Leafs.
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They should because they're so ugly.
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But like, the whole entirety of morality is based on Karens getting the ick or not
Why do you eat cows, fish and pigs but not cats, dogs and dolphins? Because the latter are cute
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we also didn't breed dolphins for their meat, because we had other animals that were easier to handle.
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no it's because dolphin meat is too expensive
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Porn isn't speech. There's nothing you can say through porn that can't be expressed without the quality of it being titillating.
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Surely no one would ever abuse the ambiguity of determining whether something it titillating.
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That's why fentanyl should be legal. Surely no one would ever abuse the ambiguity of determining something's "potential for abuse"
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Yes, fentanyl, truly an example of where the right drug policy is controversial.
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You're a libertarian? You should have told me up front that you were special needs.
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I could express myself without calling you a cute twink, but I don't think I will
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Paintings with exposed breasts literally say fricking nothing dude, all they are for is a boner
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OK, lets make porn illegal except for old paintings with exposed breasts; that would satisfy both prudes and coomers.
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If you wanna say frick Trump or how do I make meth or BIPOC on the Internet in America, you need Klansmen and Nazis and NAMBLA or loli-loving paedos to stand in front of you taking the blows. Once those groups go, America suddenly becomes England, and you're getting 180 days in jail for asking why immigrants can have guns but you can't.
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First
they came for the libertarians
Then everyone
lived happily ever after. The end.
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I mean, yeah, obviously.
But so as long as pretend CSAM is being discussed, we have less time to docket banning doxxing or discussing deathfats or weening lolcows or banning slurs or criminalizing inceldom.
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!freespeech
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What does Rawhide Kobayashi think of this?
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So an unenforceable that will be handled by a bunch of old cute twinks that need a team of 20 people so they can add a pdf to an email or update thier phones. Eh the libertarian seethe is worth it.
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I mean it'll stop the open dissemination of this stuff maybe. It does violate 1A though so probably not enforceable.
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This is one of the few situations where I had to view source to know if you actually wrote "libertarians" or it was the filter.
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In this case both would hate this law.
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I've posted stuff in relation to this before:
https://rdrama.net/post/287781/e621-bans-explicit-young-human-content/6765014#context
There was a 2002 supreme court case that basically said the state can't do what texas did (because technically it could ban stuff like Romeo and Juliet), but in 2003 the federal gov passed a law making digital depictions of real kids illegal (no challenges to that yet). AFAIK no one has ever gotten prosecuted specifically for this though, even though Shadman did actually do that (with keemstars kid IIRC).
This law will probably never be used, I find it interesting because I was in the Art section of my library and I found a Van Gogh(?) collected sketches and some of them were just naked kids, Does that count as CP? What about the book Lolita? or kubriks movie? isn't there like 1-2 bible passages that have kid r*pe? idk.
<- how old is this marsey btw
also side note it's funny asking LLMs about this because they will start providing answers, but then usually delete the chat after they finish, even if you are specifically asking about the cases involved.
^here is an AI generated lawyer I made to help answer the question, she just called me a creep and deleted herself.
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California's already been prosecuting photorealistic AI CSAM so I assume that will be the line for now.
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Have you ever considered paying no mind to children you aren't raising?
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https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/535/234/
They are taking another bite because Thomas said explicitly in that case when technology reaches the point where it becomes indistinguishable from the real thing the government likely has a case to criminalize it.
Only in Australia. They have some real wacky shit like criminalizing fictional stories. Possession of the IT book would qualify as possession of CP.
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While aus hasn't used the law to do it yet, they can classify porn as child porn if the actor has small breasts.
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See that kind of worries me, if the law can technically frick you over with the same force as with actual CP, just for liking small-breasted cuties, then you really have a shitty country.
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I wonder how many countries a koran graphic novel would be banned in
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Canada for sure, there was an anon who posted about how he bought a fleshlight that had an anime character on the side, the anime was not really loli but just like general anime looking. The postal service saw it and reported it to the police. he had to pay 20000 dollars for a lawyer to say "the character doesn't have a name or any other characteristics, they are art on a box." and i think he would have gone to prison for 10 years if they decided to prosecuted him.
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Get r*ped cute twink
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where was this law 20 years ago when the genie was still in the bottle?
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Canada
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https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB20/2025
it is well and truly
for the lolicons and libertarians in texas.
edit: until the ACLU rakes them over the coals for oppressing freedom of
libertarianshitspeech violations igedit: wait actually this is just passing the senate they still gotta ways to go and the law only goes into effect in september so the
are temporarily still safe
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Doubt ACLU cares about real freedom of speech, if it's gotta do with nazis or racists or paedos or men who give them the ick.
Doesn't seem like there's a lot of groups that care about freedom of speech or expression anymore, aside from rdrama or kiwifarms or NAMBLA.
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nah, ACLU loves porn tho
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Except Null and Kiwi Farms are actively celebrating this law and is fully in favor if outlawing loli/shota content. In fact, several users in the "Lolicon and Shotacon Defenders" thread believe that any anime with fanservice should be classified as CSAM.
Null and Kiwi Farms have not believed in free speech in years, if ever, and this issue goes far beyond lolicon/shotacon. If you want to see how much Kiwi Farms believes in free speech, try giving Null weight loss advice, or criticize the schizo landwhale foids in the "Man Hate" thread, or say anything positive about Andrew Tate, and count how many seconds it takes before you are permabanned for disagreeing with Null.
Take it from me. I got permabanned from Kiwi Farms because I once called Null a fedora tipper over his reaction to the whole Nick Fuentes "Your Body, My Rights" meme last year.
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Post your account.
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Lupe Fuentes fan club Texas chapter right now:
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California passed a similar law last year.
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ok, that makes sense. I was sitting here going "how the frick are they going to know if it's AI generated and why should it matter?"
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If I take a naked picture of myself as a child and meticulously draw every part of it with pixels, is it still child porn?
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yes, sicko.
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Theseus's ship of cp self-incest has failed me.
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They won't, and it doesn't!
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The way it should be.
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lmao clearest law 2025
doesn't this mean they have to show the CP to the jury and have them deliberate on whether or not it's under 18 years old? who else would even decide, based off the phrasing here?
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If enforced it will end up like Australia where from my understing porn of petite women is effectively banned.
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Washboards BTFO
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total adult women enjoyer victory.
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