I keep seeing chuds say the same few things.
A) tariffs are very good and will bring manufacturing back.
B) the Tariffs are a ruse to get more free trade.
how can both be true at the same time? both are repeated by the same chuds
how do chuds entertain so many conflicting ideas?
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it's simple
they're tarded
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The same people screeching about tariffs have no understanding of civics and cannot name their local representatives.
You're all a bunch of kids that read headlines and "react" to things.
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Name one of your represantatives. You have 2 mins.
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b) is some rightoids coping and trusting the plan, a) are true believers who would vote for Stalin to own the libs
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The art of statecraft eludes you obviously
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It's so sad πππππ
I'll pray for Pizzashill though ππππππ
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Wow. I didn't realize he was a BIPOClet from the neck down.
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No one is going to believe this unless you make him a pudgy negro from the neck down.
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If they can be used as a threat to get better terms in trade negotiations, that's good for American business. If not, that means more reshoring, which is also good for American business. I'm not saying I actually like the idea, but the two things are not mutually exclusive.
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brother in what world is a massive tax on the american public and economic decline good for American business?
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I should have said potentially good for workers, definitely not good for the ownership class. But honestly, tariffs are best used to discourage offshoring and we're many decades past that. The logistics of trying to return domestic manufacturing to what it once was would be difficult, and industry would probably be unwilling to try without confidence that these tariffs will still be in place past the end of Trump's term.
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how is a massive tax hike on the american public, good for thea merican public?
better yet, how is burning up millions of jobs to maybe, hopefully, bring sock production back to America somehow a good idea?
lay this out for me, how is causing the country massive economic harm, deleting millions of jobs, and also wildly increasing the cost of living in any way good for American workers?
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They're blanket tariffs
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Again on foreign crap. Americans spend a lot on that but its not a majority of their income
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Did you not see the last jobs report? Exceeded expectations bigly.
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Yeah that's because it came a day after the tariffs were announced.
Wait a few months and if they go through you'll see massive layoffs.
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Like I said, I don't think any of this is actually a good idea, but the beliefs you mentioned are not mutually exclusive. I think the average Trump supporter thinks we can use tariffs to bully other nations and if that's not successful, things will just be magically be made in the US again and won't be expensive. That's a facile and generally r-slurred view of macroeconomics, but it's not inconsistent.
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Daddy is engaging in class warfare for me against the rich!
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how do the rich benefit from those tariffs?
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They don't benefit anyone. Just because he's r-slurred doesn't mean he's fighting for the common man.
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If you work in a manufacturing plant that just had their inputs from some third country increase in price by 40% and your Chinese competitor didn't have that happen (because they are not run by r-slurs like trump), then you will be laid off because the Chinese competitor will now r*pe you in every overseas market and you will not sell much. This will happen a lot in the coming months if they don't kitty out of the tariffs or if congress doesn't step in.
Please explain how getting laid off because the president and VP are sub-mongoloid tier is "good for workers".
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The best terms in trade are free trade but daddy keeps violating those agreements like they are a girl at Epstein's Island.
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Could've just continued the policy of tariffs targeted at offshoring, instead of blanket tariffs that are about to cause a global trade war, and also retaliatory tariffs which will complicate all this
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I won't argue either of those things. I will trust the plan. I support Donald J. Trump completely. Doing anything else is obviously r-slurred and suicidal.
!project2025
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I do what Marsey tells me to do. Let's see here.
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Oh no! Wait that's your fortune not mine
Your fortune: You Will Be Propositioned By A High-Tier Twink
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Marsey Why?!
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I fixed it
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For some people its just way too painful to admit being incorrect in the face of facts.
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Have a downmarsey!
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This perfectly describes
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I have a ginormous brain to have separate spaces for each one
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i don't care if it works or not but the status quo so obviously doesn't that its better to at least try anything else
I don't see any nonchud response other than we should have continued the managed decline
or drift further left. because UK/EU social democray just has such GOOD prospects
they're really gonna fix wealth inequality with more taxes and browns I just know it
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which country has done better than america economically?
tariffs are a massive tax hike on america.
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were doing the best because the entire rest of the productive world is strangling theyselves even harder
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That's American exceptionalism!
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This is BIPOC logic
Are you from Beaumont?
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So what if I am?
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I just wanted to say something racist idk
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I see.
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Arent u multi?
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Are you asking me if I'm a leatherman?
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Are u Leatherman
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More of a Gerber
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Ok. U are Tagged. I know you are Berber actually. In fact tho most of u North
African 
carthaginians consider 
yourself 
white, you will always be called subhuman just like me.
!followers !friendsofspiderman !superheroes do not be unproud of your race(s)
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What are you even talking about here?
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no real gdp growth since 08, no wage growth to follow inflation, impossibly rising CoL
suddenly none of that matters to nonchuds? yall been complaining about it since forever
a mf named "KillBoomersBeheadBoomers" suddenly doesn't care about all these generational problems?
yall economic worldview changes with the day of the week
one day its fine, the next its the apocalypse, then its ok
you're all deluding yourselves if you think the status quo was headed anywhere but
especially the endless spending, debt, and social security
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yeah, you know what's gonna fix it?
Everything costing more for like 10 to 15 years while we begin the arduous process of learning how to make flip flops back in the US for no goddamed good reason instead of software and shit (because meth head marvin wants one of them factory jobs the chinks stole)
lol lmao
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you're boiling down like 80% of the country into marvin
while one tiny geographic area of the country actually creates software
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Quite possibly the most succinct way it's ever been said
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Tear down that wall mr trump is ten years out burgers have already learned to doompost like they're a welder in stalinist russia.
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We were not declining. What metric makes you say this? I mean you, yeah probably, so I get where you are coming from. But brother, nothing gonna stop that, definitely not tariffs.
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delusional. ignorant comment. male feminist probably
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True
True
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What's the problem? Are you saying that statement C is in some way incompatible with the other two statements? But to make that determination we would surely need a statement D: "these three things cannot be true at the same time."
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pizza don't pretend to be a smart man
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Pizza this was telegraphed for months in advance. If you didn't get your assets out of the market I don't know what to tell you. Maybe start renting out your spare bedroom if you are so strapped for cash.
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Tariffs will pressure into domestic manufacturing while making domestic goods cheaper comparatively. Every other country has trade barriers in place so you cant sell chevys in japan or europe while they try to milk american consumers for cash.
Plus we need to raise tariffs on every country that sources from slave labor
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You really posting this after our convo where you literally flipped flopped how many times in that thread? You're the conflicting ideas man, you should be telling us how to entertain them!
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!tldr
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tl;dr: "Chuds (idk, just gonna call 'em that) say tariffs are a good thing to bring back manufacturing or are actually a scam for more free trade. Like, pick a side, grandpa!"
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From what I've seen Trump's 'goal' is to bring back manufacturing. I think it's mostly cope though, the tariffs are extremely r-slurred.
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People are generally r-slurred, they just present it in different ways. Chuds are r-slurs. They know there is a lot they don't know but they don't have all the answers so they believe things that they want to believe. Since they are r-slurred, what they want to believe isn't consistent or even logical.
Nonchuds are equally r-slurred. They believe everyone is the same (except chuds!) They already know things and the things they believe is all correct since everyone is the same except for chuds. This is why we need more air traffic controllers from Somalia.
No one seems to understand they are just r-slurred unfortunately
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Are you proposing a systematic genocide of Chuds? Because who else would I gape?
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I was thinking it would be better if the chuds and nonchuds just genocided each other while everyone else just sorta chilled and watched
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Never heard of tarrifs before, like everything else, i'll wait a few years and see if it was a good or bad decision
He does some r-slurred things and some normal things the media plays like end of the world, because this is something i have no clue about, i'll wait and see
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if only we had some way of knowing how they work.
like examples from history.
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That requires reading books
Joking, i'd need to learn economics and then read more about tarifs, then figure out what info is biased/false, dig until i get to the truth.. I'll stick to what i understand
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I enjoy that it hurts China.
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claiming this hurts china is like shooting yourself in the face and then making fun of the guy behind you because the bullet exited your head and grazed his shoulder.
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Sure buddy
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it is lol, you guys are high on your own supply and dont realize how damaging this is.
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I'm not some cringe
leftoid, lmao. I'm a centrist 
who just happens to despise certain countries and culturesβbut not because I'm some bunker-dwelling isolationist. I fully support Western 
dominance on the global stage. Cope and seethe.
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"Hurting China
is like shooting 
yourself 
in the face" β lmfao okay, enjoy your smoothbrain 
take. This isn't self-harm, it's 4D chess 
played on a quantum board 
made of semiconductors and proxy conflicts. We're not accidentally hitting 
ourselvesβwe're cauterizing a flesh 
wound 
while plunging the knife 
into their economic jugular.
You think
short-term turbulence = strategic failure? That's NPC-tier thinking. This is economic warfare, not a pillow 
fight. We pull a lever, maybe 
lose a couple 
points on the stock 
market, but China 
loses access 
to chips, capital, and credibility. We endure turbulenceβthey face structural regression.
This isn't a bullet
to our own face. It's rerouting a missile 
through our shoulder 
to vaporize their command center. Yeah, we bleed a bit. Then we stand up, light 
a cigarette 
with the explosion 
behind 
us, and keep walking.
Open your third
eye. The goal isn't comfortβit's dominance.
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It's more like if your nuts are next to his nuts (sweaty, stuck together almost, very intimate but also anonymous and detached) and you aim the gun so it blows off just one of your nuts but both of his. Then you French kiss.
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Why can't real politics be like this
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Our country is only rich because of our military. Serious tariffs that force our manufacturing to come back puts random butt wars back on the table. The relative destabilization of our own country is nothing compared to what China would feel without our trade.
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You didn't care about the pandemic nor the war in Ukraine but you've started like four threads about tariffs because they threaten your precious portfolio.
You're one fleece vest away from being a finance bro.
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One fleece vest and a job that doesn't pay in expired dumpster meat.
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Tiger Kang did nothing wrong.
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Actually
most of that meat is just unsaleable, not expired.
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Chuds are a big tent operation these days
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yeah eventually they will face the same problem the dems face now. you let the crazies in and eventually the normies leave.
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It's not about ideals, or politics. It's about sending a MESSAGE.
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And that message is "I'M R-SLURRED"
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Imagine actually caring
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They cannot even articulate the problem they are trying to solve.
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I will just post this to explain the tariff situation:
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What is the conflict between A and B?
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It's funny to see people I don't like REEE and seethe
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FUNNY BONES ARENT FUNNY AND TARIFFS ARE TAXES ON YIFFS WHICH IS WHY ITS A NECESSARY SACRIFICE WE MUST ALL MAKE
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