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(This is a continuation of my reply to the recent thread about the Civilization series.)
It's got some issues with, for lack of a better term, historical accuracy. There's some weird dodgy stuff in the tech tree. You may try to scoff and say that it's just a game, it's not meant to be accurate. Yeah, of course not, to a certain point. Old Man Redactor once saw me playing Darklands and pointed out that if you just changed the data files you could use the same engine to make a game about running a laundromat. What elevates games over spreadsheets is that there's some kind of story that it's telling you where the numbers mean something. In Civ, that story is history in general, so it had darn well better at least feel like it has to do with history.
I only realized later that actually my father is a Satanist who was trying to drive me away from good Christian games. One day on the solstice he made carry a bunch of 1-gallon milk jugs full of blood (I dunno what kind) from the garage to the trunk of his old Honda. Then he got in and it flew away into the night. That's when I put two and two together.
The way religion is handled I think is pretty butt-backwards. In the original Civ, it's all abstract. You build a temple and that's it, it's assumed that it's a temple for whatever these people believe in. It doesn't really matter what religion it is because, for the purposes of the game of Civilization, people from different religions act pretty much the same for the most part because we're all human.
The other approach you can take is what they do in Europa Universalis. (I dunno if they still have the guts to do this but they did when I played it.) Where you decide which religions are good or bad and give them bonuses and penalties. This obviously has some disadvantages. Like it's really fricking obvious what's going on when the game is made in Sweden and the good religions that get bonuses are in northern Europe. You can't get away with that if you're making a game outside of an extremely ethnocentric culture like Sweden.
Swedes always score themselves as the happiest country on Earth when they make those rankings, yet all the Swedes I know complain about how their husband just drinks all day and won't do anything even though she physically beats the shit out of him. Curious.
Civ IV tried to have their cake and eat it too but you end up with nothing and you're still hungry. The religions use the superficial trappings of ones from the real world but in gameplay terms they're completely generic with nothing differentiating them except which tech activates them. If they're generic why do we need them? Why not just leave it completely abstract like in Civ I? If we're assigning them to real world religions, why don't we give them their own special bonuses like we do with different civilizations?
The approach in Civ IV is kinda stupid both in terms of gameplay and theme. You might as call the religions pokemon because you're best off just collecting them all. Each one in a city adds happiness and gives you the opportunity to build more improvements. Honey, please. This is a stupid gameplay mechanic where you're encouraged to build missionaries to convert all your cities and build the same improvement several times for each religion. I consider this to be what Soren Johnson (designer of Civ IV) himself called a "degenerate strategy" in his seminal piece "Water Finds a Crack". You're doing something that's stupid and not interesting because the game rewards you for it. There's no interesting choices going on here. The other gameplay impact religion has is that basically it makes some of the AI civilizations hate you for no reason. This was obviously intended to stop you from just turtling and being friends with everyone, but it's annoying when you're left with fewer options to pursue in diplomacy.
In terms of history, this is all really stupid. Religious diversity works in America because the Founding Fathers designed our nation around it. In the rest of the world in the rest of history, having many different religions in one city is not a recipe for everyone to love each other. Let's look at the late 1500s, when religion was perhaps the most important in history that it's ever been. You had stuff like Protestant mobs surrounding the convent and yelling lewd suggestions of what the nuns should do. Today in Beirut they've got 15 religious sects and it's not giving them +15 happiness points. It's giving them continuous simmering animosity. Damascus, Aleppo, Baghdad, great cities that have "stood the test of time" like the ones represented in Civilization are not finding that diversity is their strength. By ignoring these real issues, I feel that Civ IV is demeaning both to America, where we actually solved them to some extent, and to the poor bastards living in those shithole countries where they have to deal with sectarian bullshit on a daily basis.
In 1976 the Lebanese decided that their happiness bonus from being multicultural society was so great that they asked the Syrian Army to come and violently put down sectarian violence experience it for themselves.
Also, what do you do with the Jews and Hindus? If you're putting real world religions into the game they're incredibly important so you have to include them, but they're not like the other ones featured in the game. They're not sending missionaries around trying to convert people. So what do you do? Write special rules for them? Who's gonna do that? You'd need to hire some guy from Hebrew University who also loves 4X to do any justice to it.
Now this is a nice campus.
The way that religion affects diplomacy in the game is stupid in the other direction. Countries won't make alliances with the "infidels"? How fricking naive do you have to be? Are like 4 fricking years old? Let's look at the late 1500s again. I don't have the book at hand at the moment, so this is from memory, but there was an alliance against the Hapsburgs that was something like this: Sweden, Denmark, England, the Netherlands, France, Portugal, Morocco, Algeria, various parts of Italy, and the Ottomans. They'd have added the Moros in the Philippines if they had better communications technology. In Lebanon they've gone through every possible combination of different sects allying with each since 1975. Most hilariously the Druze who have been both allied with and fought everyone else at least once since then. The elites running the country or the faction usually don't give a shit about sectarian hatred except as a tool they can use to manipulate the plebs.
Sana'a Mehaidli. Carried out a suicide bombing against the Israeli occupation force in 1985. I guess nobody ever told her that as a Christian she wasn't supposed to be on the same side as Muslims. 
Which takes me back to my original point about how Sid Meier did it with generic temples. It's not because he's some atheist who hates religion. (He's actually a Christian of the actually going to church kind btw.) It's because trying to fit too much low-level detail about religion into a 4X game is really tricky and probably won't work in terms of gameplay or theme. I've always had a strong impression that this feature was basically put in because there was a feeling among (mostly atheist) 4X fans that religion was a big thing in history so we need a gameplay mechanic for it. And my feminine masculine intuition is rarely wrong.
After all this time I spent writing this I really feel like... starting up a new game of Civ IV. It's a great game. 
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"All the trillion dollar corporation CEOs are donating money and having one-to-one dinners with him. Hello oligarchy." - /u/erotic_sex_worker
So just like it's always been: Biden inaugural committee raised $62M with big sums from billionaires, corporations
I love that it's only news now because Trump does it.
It's (D)ifferent ya know
God America is corporate wasteland now. They don't even hide buying politicians anymore. But don't worry rich orange Jesus is here to save us, he totally knows the struggles of the working man.
This is what 78 million Americans voted for.
They wanted corporate welfare, billionaire immunity, and pay for play.
Oh, you thought you'd get cheaper groceries and a one time $600 dollar check? Fricking dolts.
"I don't want consumer protection, workers rights or more financial freedom like never having to worry about healthcare costs again! I want to stop woke and trans and poor people from having freedom."
terrorists don't attack us anymore because they cant achieve our level of destruction with ignorance voting. - /u/herefromyoutube
I'm certain they wanted more corporate welfare and to not own the libs lmao
Look, I didn't like Trump and never voted for him. I thought Biden was honestly doing a pretty okay job. But as a lifelong Apple fan, if Tim's on board, then I'm willing to give him a chance. - /u/Ok-Echo-7764 [-50]
It's even worse when you consider the fact that he's a gay man supporting this admin. Sad.
These people really think the GQP is really going to take away gay rights lmao - /u/OmniAtom91
Honestly I don't blame Cook that much for this. With Trump as president, you have to pay to play. Trump would be petty enough to do something to ruin Apple stock if Cook didn't pay.
Didn't hate the player, hate the game. - /u/d-cent [-8]
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Tl;dr he bought a defunct company (Murfie) that held onto peoples CDs and vinyl and tried to move it to an impoverished shithole in Arkansas because property value was cheap. The town drove him insane and methheads robbed him daily but he decided to buy up 1000 more properties anyway, most recently a 7 story school administrative building with no plan on what exactly to do with it. He has also tried to run for mayor there as a Libertarian and got arrested for throwing a tantrum at a city council meeting when they said he couldn't turn one of his abandoned warehouse properties into a go-kart track. He represented himself in court.
All of the property of Murfie has been sitting in a bunch of shipping containers while he runs around Hell on Earth acting like a retard. To be clear the average customer of Murfie is like 70 years old. The business would take a CD or vinyl from you and for a subscription fee allow you to listen to your CD or vinyl over a streaming service 
the entire concept is like something out of the dotcom boom. All of his videos have comments like this from confused customers.
Most of them have had to accept that this inventory is gone, had this dumbass not gotten involved it would have all likely ended up at a landfill anyway because nobody in their right mind would have purchased this company.
However there is one guy who really, really wants his CDs. @PontifierAR on Twitter (Formerly Chuck's) has this pinned to profile and has been dedicated to harassing him for the past five years.
After nearly FIVE Years, I think this sounds reasonable. Do you, #Murfie Customers? I think this is only fair. #JohnFenley doesn’t seem to know how to apologize and change behavior, so I thought I’d help him. #pinebluff #murfie #crossies #pontifier #lino #libertarianinnameonly pic.twitter.com/wibu01eNCW
— John Fenley - RETURN MONEY AND PROPERTY NOW! (@PontifierAR) June 16, 2024
He has several wordpress sites raging against John Fenley and Murfie and a schizophrenic Youtube channel.
John is active on Reddit as /u/Pontifier. At some point this guy made a Reddit account and would reply with some 
every time John would post about something. Eventually he responded.
This did not satisfy him. He commented again, John apparently was having a bad day and decided to unload 
This has completely set the guy off 
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People that are assaulted are often blamed by the perpetrator as provoking it in various ways. This tactic is very common of perpetrators to their victims. I am the victim of #JohnFenley. He has the balls to blame me for what he did. #PineBluff #Murfie #Crossies #Pontifier pic.twitter.com/V2TLj8Pm8Q
— John Fenley - RETURN MONEY AND PROPERTY NOW! (@PontifierAR) December 1, 2024
THIS IS WHAT VICTIM BLAMING LOOKS LIKE!!!#JohnFenley #Pontifier #Murfie #Crossies #PineBluff pic.twitter.com/pryzKQaYUR
— John Fenley - RETURN MONEY AND PROPERTY NOW! (@PontifierAR) December 1, 2024
This could be interpreted as a threat or at a minimum letting me know he has the power to “lose” my disks. Either way he is now being crazy aggressive. He told me I would get my property and money back in 2020…it’s now almost 2025. #JohnFenley #Pontifier #PineBluff #Murfie pic.twitter.com/KEQjRShhYt
— John Fenley - RETURN MONEY AND PROPERTY NOW! (@PontifierAR) December 2, 2024
Get Your Very Own Asshat for #Christmas. It will show everyone who is the #asshat! I ordered mine and got the #BlackFriday deal! JohnFenley #PineBluff #Murfie #Crossies #Pontifier pic.twitter.com/CzG9LgcGun
— John Fenley - RETURN MONEY AND PROPERTY NOW! (@PontifierAR) November 29, 2024
I don't know what timezone he's in, but he's definitely American. His first tweets of the day are all around the same time. He is apparently waking up and thinking about the post first thing in the morning 
, seething about it throughout the day, and continues to 
well into the evening, likely shortly before going to sleep 
. It's safe to assume he dreams about this post as well.
There is hilarious schadenfreude in John's story but a lot of people here seem to root for him. There is something kind of endearing about his insane ambition even if it's delusional and extremely poorly thought out. But clearly his ability to make someone 
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Sorry guys, no rebuilding your fancy houses that burned down by the ocean in LA until there’s a new crack den installed right in the middle of the neighborhood.
— Joe Lonsdale (@JTLonsdale) January 31, 2025
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Once again I am leaving the Munich Security Conference in a low mood. Amongst all the noise, the US signalled their plans for Europe, so things are becoming clearer. But things are clearly not good.
— Gabrielius Landsbergis🇱🇹 (@GLandsbergis) February 15, 2025
This is what we now know, and what we now have to do about it:🧵1/17
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This is not a cost saving measure. This is a purge of federal employees who do not support their agenda. The first round is incentivized volunteer resignations. The second round will be forced resignations. The third round will be outright firings. This is a comprehensive takeover of the federal government by the MAGA organization. This is round one of a pervasive attack on the American Republic.
They are following the NAZI playbook from the 1930's.
The OLIGARCHY 
They are looking for cuts to pass trumps tax plan. Which will greatly enrich the rich and cripple the poor, weaken or eliminate the middle class.
What is it you think he is doing? Where do you think the money stolen from us will go? It's tax money, all our money going to the rich, 2'trillion at least. The deficit…trump blew it up round 1. Round 2 he will kill the deficit. And YOU and EVERYONE you know will pay for it for the rest of our lives.
Some reasonable people too, maybe redditoids aren't beyond saving:
I appreciate you being open to the conversation. The challenge lies in your last sentence where you state "Convince me that cutting wasteful spending is a bad idea." You're already convinced that all of this spending is wasteful. We are not.
We see value in the DOE as a vehicle to assist in equalizing access to education for all. Without this funding, kids in poor areas will not have access to the resources they need to be successful in school. In the most impoverished places, property tax is not adequate - many are renting, in section 8, or perhaps homeless and the property tax collected does not scale with the student population in those environments. Do you believe that all kids, regardless of the socioeconomic class they are born into, deserve a shot at education? We do. But the states alone are not able to provide that, particularly red states who are the biggest beneficiaries of this funding.
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Do you hear that sound? The creaking and groaning? That was the sound of all of the people who played this game 30 years ago rising from their coffin to defend its honor.
I don't think it is worth it gramps as this game has aged so poorly it should be laid to rest with you. And I'm not just talking about the graphics or overall polish, there is barely even a game there.
There are almost no decisions to make in terms of your build. Almost optimal stat choices can be described in anywhere from a sentence to a word depending on which one of the 3 classes you chose (hint the magic user puts points into magic). Even the fights barely have you making any decisions. Early levels with the warrior have you sitting in a doorway wacking who ever comes in range while later levels have you chugging potions because dodging is 100% impossible. Playing a mage is more interesting as you have a sizable selection of spells but half of them are just Blast Baddie Fire or Blast Baddie Ice and you just find which one is better and stick with that.
The one place where user choice does come into play is the itemization. You get many different magic items throughout the game which can have pretty interesting upsides. Its not perfect and it definitely doesn't make up for the rest of the game though.
That isn't to say the game is all bad. The visuals aren't perfect but some of the enemies have pretty cool death animations. But even the best of this game isn't especially good, there are hundreds of games that have better visuals, fallout 1 is a good example of another sprite based isometric game that looks much better.
Also the Sorcerer is BIPOC, DEI much? 
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Here's what I did. I called my congressional representative (R) hoping to leave a message but instead his staff picked up. I awkwardly stumbled my way through why I think Elon Musk is insanity. Could tell the sweet little republican staffer hated her life so much as she said, "I'll pass that along." :) I also called my senators and complained again.
Finally, and my personal fave thing I did today, I rolled down my car windows on the way back from school drop off and BLARED the FDT rap by YG & Nippsey Hussle. I made one VT girl's day when she smiled at me because of the song and then I literally yelled "frick Donald Trump" at the top of my lungs. She started laughing in her car. I also made quite an impression on a car full of frat bros who probably voted for him.
Viva la revolución, Dramatards.
Burgers why are you like this?
These are the times which try men's souls.
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Like, u get off the beach and u and ywour shit is cwowored in sand. Weww just swipe ywour cwedit card fwor $1.50 and u've gwot an air wand that can bwow aww of the sand out of ywour shit. As a bwonyus u can use it two inflate innyer tubes and other beach twoys.
Im thinking abwout it. Im alswo sick and fuww of DXM.
Think abwout it.
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Now he's forcing them back into the office AND to accept the brave and valid innoculations. Reminder that 
was a massive supporter of le covid vaccines
even praised him for getting the vaccines done
https://nypost.com/2021/12/21/biden-praises-trump-for-operation-warp-speed-getting-covid-booster/
also part of the $500billion AI "stargate" project is going to be for devoloping vaccines
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mrna-vaccine-cure-cancer-ai-2018701
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How many of you break the law just to goon? It aint a new thang! The old heads would break the law all the time just to goon! Aight, sheeit imma hit ya'll off with a quick lesson on masturbation. You see, none of the GOONERS can agree on where gooning originated and how some GOONING became illegal and some didn't. Sheeit, some of our GOONERS are Christians and according to them, God HATES gooners. As proof, they point to the story of Onan. That's a real deep cut there nigguh get your googles on that shit for real. That dude was the first to say yo FRICK GOD I DON'T WANT GUSSY because GOONING is better.
Folks like me, we goon hard but we ain't Christians. I'm not tryna read an old book unless its a sticky playboy ya heard me? 
in my set we believe that true gooning as we enjoy it today originated with De Sade. Now that motherlover figured out that all these laws, morality, and modesty is bullshit. It's all about GOONING NON-STOP to COMPLETELY ABHORRENT shit. Check this shit out, this gentleman GOONED so hard the FEDS said ENOUGH FUN and they charged him with pornography, s*x crimes, and blasphemy. He said I ain't gonna stop COOMING this is what I believe in to the bottom of my heart I die for this goon shit. I didn't even mention that this KING had royal ancestry. They arrested him many times and he just kept getting out. He gooned so hard FEDS were trying to KILL him.
They aint kill him though. My gooners, we look up to De Sade. We stay in that evil shit bruh we know that the best cooms come from the worst filth imaginable
- Virgin vulva in a monogamous marriage making consentual and thoughtful love to each other?
NO. I HATE THAT SHIT NIGGUH.
De Sade is a real G for us gooners. If you don't understand then maybe you're not a REAL GOONER and we don't want no FAKE GOONERS on our set so you best get going. Before he left, he wrote the best filth ever. Shit goes so hard, it has GOONER scholars decoding it in modern day. Sheeeit. This GENIUS left behind the whole blueprint for HARDCORE GOON ADDICTS.
Now there's one more set I wanna talk about and that's the EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGISTS. Sheeit, I don't really frick with these BIPOCs. They be using science and shit to trace back the origins of COOMING in humans and the psychological underpinnings of GOONING in our shared human ancestry. Because it's crazy, cultures around the world, completely disconnected across space and time, and we all GOON hard.
Some of us gooners, sheeit when we're not out there selling COOMpacks on Whatsapp/Telegram, we look up at the stars and wonder... do aliens coom? If they do then maybe this goon shit goes back further than human history. Maybe it was passed down to us from ancient galactic beings. And it's our duty to pass on the gift of GOONING to the next generation and get them hooked on TORRENTED PORN, USED TAMPONS, and UNSAFE S*X.
But this post isn't about all the sets. It's about one young man who had the courage to stand against society and GOON. That man is me. Sheeit when I started gooning I was just a YB aint got shit going on for me in life except weak butt shit like college, caring parents, and goals and aspirations. Then I discovered GOONING and I realised actually I aint tryna hear all that shit. I was put on this Earth to GOON.
WOMEN TRY TO STOP ME FROM COOMING BUT THEY CAN'T.
I want pain, faeces, and rotten, cut-open torsos that I coom into. But back when I was a wee young lad I didn't have TERABYTES of COOMpacks (DM me for details). So sheeit I did what's called the dictionary game. I would look up naughty words in a physical dictionary, read that filth, and GOON hard.
It's the best way to goon. You don't need:
Clothes
Lube
Internet
Electricity
A mobile device or electronic gadgets
You just need a dictionary and your hand. Just keeping gooning boys. The promised land is almost here.
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ing hard since they realized that Trad Christian grifters are not on the same side of the tranime waifu fanservice enjoyers!
, the pendulum has swung to the right only 2 months ago, but culture is already speedruning its time travel back to 1999, the ones coming after their problematic/degenerate and misogynistic/pornographic tranime vidya are now the Xtian coomservatives just like 25 years ago, 1999 we are soback baby! 
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People really need to stop making heroes out of online personalties. You'd have thought they'd have learned their lesson from pointless celebrity worship.
Ideologically motivated moralists suck no matter what their political leanings. It's why I can't stand Matt Walsh even though he attacks stupid shit.
I fricking hate moral grandstanders. LET DEVS MAKE WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE!
but please Mr. KiNeurodivergent, no loliBIPOCshit! 
"Only my freedom is the correct freedom, you degenerate bigot!"
That was fast. The pendulum just started swinging back and they're already grifting on the other end.
If you love games, if you love artistic freedom, then you do not have allies on the "left" or the "right". Regardless of what they say, they all have ulterior motives.
I'm an independent, and always have been since I first registered to vote, and this weird, sudden heelturn of those who supposedly pushed for freedom of speech proves why I never considered myself a conservative even if they had (temporarily) agreed with me.
If you push for censorship, you are my enemy. Simple as that.
Speaking as an open-and-out reactionary, the single greatest enemy to any postwar right wing movement has been that conservatives are placed in charge of them to make sure they never get anywhere.
I mean a lot of conservatives…ya know…hate porn and hate half naked women showing their body in media. If they're conservative this really isn't shocking or surprising. It's just their beliefs.
Wait, Pastor Bubba Muttison (R) doesn't likes my loli tranime hentai game?, I thought that we were friends because we both hated Woke Commies?!, he doesn't thinks that Japanese cartoon porn is going to save Western civilization and the White race from Globohomo Marxists?! 
Thats why its so cringe to see these prude leftists nowadays, complaining about a 5 pixel boob window; Theyre acting exactly like the conservatives that they claim to hate so much. They have so many bad things in common.
For us who grew up in the 90s(and i guess 80s too) its like a flashback. They're all the same shits, trying to ruin entertainment and true art, by deciding what is or isnt allowed.
I never had any issue with either of them until they started acting like peepees, destroying my entertainment and telling us we are whatever bad thing they can think of, just cause we dont agree 100% with them.
prepare to switch attacking Woke SJWs to the Evangelical "Catholics" in the past four years, soldier of autism!
Yes Razorfist has chosen to destroy his credibility with his defending of Melonie Mac because she quotes scripture to deflect what's wrong. Heck he recently jumped down Act Man's throat saying he doesn't want Twerking in M-Rated games. I know Act Man is hated here but this response by Razor is just garbage. By the way if you attack Melonie Mac you're a Chinese shill and an agent of the CCP now according to Razor's recent livestream.
The rest are extremely simple to explain to be dismissed. Jon Del Arroz is a wife beater. The Quartering is a grifter. John F. Trent has been mask off for several years now and there's a reason he left Bounding into Comics and went to That Park Place now (I still don't like WDW Pro having him on his staff). Aristocratic Utensil doesn't believe in free speech at all because it gives the plebs a voice and is a Monarchist who fled his home country of South Africa.
I'm pretty disappointed by Razörfist. He's a metalhead, and fan of actually Satanic Black Metal too. He knows his BS about the Satanic Panic not being real is BS.
He has embraced religion i heard.
Trends bud, trends, hence why Norse Pagan aesthetic is all but dead in Neo-Nazi circles outside of Black Metal and prison gangs, and the Trvthnuke-dropping Fundie-obliterating Scientific Atheists are dead outside of reddit, in 2025, being a Trad Christian Fundamentalist is the counterculture and edgy fandom in modern Westoid culture.
A while ago. You can tell when he changed his sign off from, 'God fricking speed!" to "Godspeed!" He also compared his own life to Alice Cooper's a lot in his Alice Cooper Metal Mythos.
Are you surprised? Back in the 90s the conservetives (
) were the ones pushing censorship.
Now that the pendulum is swinging to the right prepare yourself to fight againts the moral busybodys of the right, the fight against censorship and authoritarianists never ends.
So, you know how, as we used to say, 'SJW's always eat their own'?
One of the reason a group starts cannibalizing itself over internal disagreements is because it perceives its external threats as defeated. Part of the reason SJW's were so eager to tear into themselves was because they correctly assessed themselves as being in control of the political climate.
Well, now Trump has won a second term and woke is being declared dead in the news media, these people have decided that now their team is in power, they don't need a bunch of weirdo nerds like us anymore.
Personally, I don't think the wokes are anywhere near as defeated as these guys think they are. We could easily have the democrats win again come 2028, and if they do, it will again be largely through the same coalition of women and 'brown' people.
Don't argue with them. I suggest just turning your back on all of these people. Every voice that opposes your ideas, suffocate it. Deny it the oxygen of your engagement. They've decided they don't need you, so respond in kind. You don't need them.
I just wish someone could explain to me what sort of dumb do you have to be to fall for the ol "I'm a christian!" shtick from a tattooed divorcee hypocritical E-Girl with 3-4 chockers on, wearing nothing but revealing clothing with a blow up lara croft in her background, pretending to be a teen. (:autism;:)
Like. Can we get the iq of these people and plot a graph? I have some theories I'd like to test.
she used to be a zealot FOR lgbt crap, now she moralizes while skimpy dressed
!g*mers !grillers !r-slurs !accelerationists
The very definition of a grifter.
I also think she genuinely feels threatened that video game women are leagues hotter than she is.
No matter the ideology, country, race, or religion, foids will always be foids 
I have no problem with people having tastes but that tolerance ends where they start trying to dictate what I can and can't enjoy.
Mac called games like First Descendent soft porn, while also making posts calling for banning all porn.
These guys are playing the same game that progressives played where they claim they aren't trying to get anything banned or censored, they are just criticising it but as soon as they got into a position where they could implement their ideology they started censoring things.
One of this subs core values is anti censorship. Anyone be it left or right that wants censorship is someone this sub opposes.
And to end this thread, here is a schizokino:
These guys are playing the same game that progressives played where they claim they aren't trying to get anything banned or censored
I think you're seeing monsters under the bed that don't exist.
Are they calling around to people's employers to try to get them fired, people's spouses to try to stir shit in a relationship, etc etc etc.?
That's the game progressives have been playing for the past decade+. If you're going to claim the other side is doing it in regards to these games, you're going to need more than vague accusations. I want to see direct calls to action.
What I see, in general, is people leaving a critique, and this thread seeming to be focusing into some kind of groupthink situation.
Basically it seems as if people can't criticize something they don't like. We've now got this affirmation only culture thing going on here?
Purity spirals weren't on the menu.
Make called games like First Descendent soft porn, while also making posts calling for banning all porn.
This is a bit of connecting the dots, a bit of a reach. I don't know how else to say it. You're associating two different statements said at different times.
Are they saying that First Descendent needs banned? This is a yes / no question. You are not a mind reader, like a lot of progressives, you don't get to lecture everyone else on "What they really mean, because they made this other tweet while taking a shit one day, trust me bro".
Because I'm not seeing it.
Bring some concrete evidence where they want to ban jiggle physics, ban Bayonetta, TFD, etc etc etc. If you're going to be associating dispsarate tweets that may even be hyperbole or satire or pointed or figurative....this is all I can see.
One of this subs core values is anti censorship.
In games, sure. I haven't seen anyone call for censorship that's relevant to the sub's interest.
Actual porn? That's already censored. There's an age requirement(both to participate in making as well as obtain the content). It's not in schools, not in broadcast or allowed at certain times of day, etc etc etc.
I would think porn, whether you want it or don't, would be more of a political issue than topical here. If we can start sharing links to porn, talking about porn, critiquing, discussing porn content creators extensively, etc, this place is going to start looking very different.
If we're shifting KIA to be about defending all porn, because muh censorship, you might want to make a sticky about it.
I mean, the sidebar does say pretty clearly:
KotakuInAction is the main hub for G*merGate on Reddit and welcomes discussion of community, industry, and media issues in gaming and broader nerd culture, including sci-fi/fantasy, comics, and animation.
I don't see porn there, funny.
Also, we're against censorship, but here we are saying people can't be against porn, or against "fan service" games in general.
I think you might want to go over this, with all of the mods, because that's a pretty large paradigm shift for this sub.
That's just me expressing an opinion. I'm not saying you can't make the sub inherently pro-porn, I'm not trying to stop you.
People can have various opinions, and if we can't tolerate some, we're no better than progressives.
It's a bit weird to see people get triggered over a couple very specific terms like "degenerate" and then also talk about how bad of allies they were(OP in this instance).
If anyone's behaving like progressives, it's OP and some others in this thread. Some people could do with a mirror.
Again, for the people in the back.
I'm not saying this because I have something against porn, or against these types of games. I don't want anything banned as long as things are otherwise legal(ban CP, for example).
There's room for everything, effectively, there is not finite space in game developement. If you like TFD, you can play TFD.
Similarly, if I don't want to, I don't have to, because there are other games out there.
Build it and they will come. Anything can find some fans.
That's not going to stop me from looking down on someone that may be a bit on the obsessive side.
Are we going to start adding to pronouns or orientations? Are we mandatorily going to have to affirm Waifusexuals or have it be requisite that we start calling all who disagree AnimePillowPhobes? Man, I can't stand those hateful divisive people!
I would just like to know the real rules here.
Edit: All questions here rhetorical, as in meant to make people think.
The sub seems to be having an identity crisis. I've explained about as much as I have patience for in several posts in this comments section and/or this comment chain. I can only lead the horse to water, I can't make it drink.
OP looks like a witch hunt, despite coy denials of being such, and is political in nature somewhat, and would seem to imply false or unsupported allegations of demands for censorship of games.....all in an overblown reaction to some youtube personalities they don't agree with.
To me, this sounds like it breaks several sub rules. But it's okay, because apparently a mod agrees.
Whatever. Wouldn't be the first time this sub has had a self created existential crisis and seen significant upheaval, and it won't be the last.
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