whose existence they were unaware of a few days before
but xhe declined), Ralph Fiennes decides to stay quiet on it
!kino !catholics what are your thoughts on this film?
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I watched Conclave last week 
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Everyone responsible for this atrocity should become property of the Holy See for their own spiritual wellbeing and to atone
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I thought you said homosexuals belong in the priesthood because chastity or something. Maybe that was some other tradcath though you all start to blur together after a while.
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The kind of conservative catholics who care about culture war nonsense fit the definition.
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Yes if you're aware of politics you are a TRAD CATH SEDE who wants to RECLAIM JERUSALEM and listens to SABATON and has GAY S*X WITH GROYPERS because Jesus said to just do like WHATEVER man live and LET LIVE and if you don't IGNORE EVERYTHING you are TRADITIONAL
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Cope
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Or Judaism
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Megyn Kelly said it was pretty much terrorism
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This sounds unnecessarily convoluted and
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Was this the author's fetish?
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The new pope is an intersex Mexican missionary sent to Afghanistan by the previous pope who died (and who secretly appointed him archbishop and cardinal).
Ralph Fiennes finds out about his condition near the end of the film, asks him what xhe is, the xhe replies "I am what God made me".
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Tbh, that's just the official Catholic position on intersex persons.
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It's unfortunate this peepee spoiled it bc it is a good mid budget mystery film that they don't make a lot of like it anymore. The big reveal isn't glorified or used for pure shock value or anything blue lives matter
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DEI
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Dei Gratia indeed
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(((BAIT))) used to be believableand COOMable
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I think I've already written my thoughts on the film in one of the weekly threads, a few months back, but I'll write it again. Conclave is a competent film. The setting is good, the characters are caricatures, but still fun.
But the ending is not great. You have all this intrigue over the film and then the bomb happens, the ultra-trad cardinal spergs out, and then the irrelevant Mexican guy makes "the speech". You know, "the speech". The movie cliche, where the main character delivers a monologue about compassion or some other nonsense at the end of a movie, that magically convinces everyone, and makes everyone happy. It's a dumb trope that not doesn't work in the real world it also completely undermines the theme the rest of the movie tried to convey: that the Vatican - despite supposedly being a holy institution - is still fundamentally human, with all the human vices corrupting it. The same corruption that every political institution deals with.
And then the final final twist is just bad. It comes out of nowhere and adds nothing to the plot. I instantly knew a lot of people here and in other chud spaces would sperg out over it being anti-Christian or whatever, but I personally don't care about that. It was just a pointless addition to an already lacklustre ending.
It honestly feels like a film from 2014-16, when this kind of thing would have still been edgy.
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Didnt read
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The book came out in 2016; so you're bang on the money there.
The book was also less sledge hammery from what I gather about the film. In the book the elected pope is also an Iraqi who is the Archbishop of Baghdad, and they build up that part of the reason he can gain steam is the desire for a pope from outside the first world to make poor or persecuted Catholic peoples feel represented. Twist is still dumb in the book tho too, be fair.
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That makes a lot of sense. Didn't know it was based on a book.
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@HailVictory1776 thought it was a good mystery in a good setting. @HailVictory1776 is glad the didn't decide too make the Mexican a literal
because anyone who read the book who saw a movie was in production could see that being the case and it would have changed the entire point of it.
@HailVictory1776 don't think it's sacrilege or anti Catholic. @HailVictory1776 think it is a good story of what makes good leadership versus ambition and how easy it is for blind followership too make the wrong decisions. It also critiques ambition as a whole where modern society tells us it's bad too feel good about thinking of yourself as a leader and by reduction allows one too allow poor things too happen out of guilt
It's unfortunate the herm thing is getting spoiled bc that was legit shocking blue lives matter
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Apparently it was in the book
the movie would have been a great thriller if the end didn't have some weird gender ideology related stuff, but the book came out in 2016 so it was written at the beginning of the g*mergate era. maybe I'll torrent and edit the gender stuff out completely, it seriously is like 7 min of the total runtime.
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I liked it up to the reveal
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Shame. I wanted to like this one. Ralph Fiennes is one of the greatest living actors and the setting seemed cool. But Hollywood gonna Hollywood and attack Christianity like their lives depend on it.
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Sounds like reddit slop.
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A major plot point is a catholic official covering something scandalous up for the benefit of the overall church?
What an unrealistic plotline, that would never happen in reality.
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