Socialist professor explains how to get a PS5 under socialism (you have to convince your coworkers to vote for it)

incorrect, workers are the smartest people on the planet that are only capable of flawless, rational decision making. They aren't capable of being influenced by racism, greed, lust for power, or spite.

d this is why socialism inevitably leads to a strongman taking over and killing all the "useless eaters."

Ignoring how this already happens (it's called the free market), this is why we do massive eugenics, genetic engineering, and social engineering. 😄

This person's ideology isn't very threatening but only because it's relegated to obscure corners of academia and the Twitter posts of terminally online people, that doesn't mean it's not r-slurred and wouldn't be a disaster if put in place.

The problem with this seems to me to be that all the negatives of capitalism apply with none of the positives. You can still lose your job if your fellow workers democratically decide you're not needed any more, and if that leads you to not having enough labor vouchers or whatever your landlord can democratically decide to evict you. The only difference is instead of market forces efficiently deciding where resources are allocated it's done by a series of increasingly convoluted administrative organisations. How are you supposed to buy an apple when you first need to convince the cashier, who needs to consult all their colleagues, who needed to work out an agreement with the distributor, then the farmer, then the guy who makes his tools, and the guy who mines the iron for those tools (who probably won't exist since no one will choose that job in a socialist utopia), all over a vague definition of who's interests are worth more worthy?

Also, why didn't you mention the most succesful Spanish syndicalist movement? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falange_Espa%C3%B1ola_de_las_JONS

I listened to this debate and he unironically says one of valid definitions of socialism is "when the government does stuff".

And Mondragon is his go-to example when talking about co-ops but guess what, you can go and start a co-op right now. They're just unpopular because they're less efficient than standard company structure.

>This guy is syndicalist IIRC

>pings !neolibs

>but is very much against the whole "killing people" part of Marxism.

Problem is the "killing people" camp usually wins out by killing people.

Mondragon heavily relies on Spanish government gibs, though, and a lot of their employees are non-owners (a majority in some companies). It's obviously not something that can scale up to the entire economy.

I would shoot my peepee off before I took an active role in decision making at my job.

Richard D Wolff used to be shilled aggressively in Bernie spaces back in the day, he's like the Bernie bro equivalent to Michael Parenti

is very much against the whole "killing people" part of Marxism.

If they ever scaled up his system beyond their commune, they'd kill him. It's a very backwards ideology because it doesn't value private property rights.