I don't see myself as that socially conservative. But all the questions were hot-button... s in foid sports, Australia Day, abo flags, equity quotas for undeserving women.
My opinions were mainstream lib-left in the 1990s, but they're suddenly polarising in Current Year + 9.
And there were no questions about supposedly progressive ideals like free speech, gay rights, equal opportunity... things I am on-board with.
That's the big problem. You're either against all of it or for so much of it that it's basically the same as 100% support. It barely swings the needle, unless you're for the Greens.
My positions should be centre-left, but any version of left is so insane about trains, the Voice-type topics, immigration and even Palestine that you're now considered Nazi-level if you haven't been dragged with them to their extremes.
I'm like a lot of people, someone who wanted things to go more left and then they went far, far past where I thought was appropriate. I'm not a nihilist or an accelerationist, but I've completely gone frick it and want the people (and type of people) who have caused so much heck and havoc, in ways that have permanently affected my life, to deal with some of the pain they claim to live in, let alone what they've wished on others.
To be sickeningly honest, I actually have empathy, and the people pretending to have it to fuel their hatred of the other are people I despise far more than those who are at least honest about it, and often end up being far more tolerant. You might only be 'one of the good ones', but at least they acknowledge there are good ones.
Also, if you can't say your most dramatic things here, where else can you.
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the left became gay shit drop that focus on less migration and solving the housing crisis and labour might just sweep the floor if they could hold off backstabbing a PM.
god i miss k rudd i would go straight if he promised he would return to save us
All Green parties worldwide took the environment and put it a distant third behind s and socialism, to the point they don't even support environmental issues if they don't come with 'social reforms'.
So if you don't believe in idpol or equity, you're shit out of luck.
IMO the trajectory with immigration, race politics, gender politics and LGTV have put us way beyond that. I think only a hard right swerve can save us now.
I sadly agree, because nothing seems to discourage all the rest of it. s are still 100% supported while claiming they're victims, land acknowledgements are everpresent while both hypocritical and pure racist virtue signalling.
The closest thing to progress is that the multicultural couples in ads are closer to the actual racial makeup of Australia than the American 'random blacks' for the last few years. The melting pot is out the window, and 'Indigenous ways of knowing' are bringing religion back into science class but from an idpol leftist perspective. In his ham-fisted, carelessly illegal way, Trump is dismantling those sorts of problems, and Australia needs a similar deep cleanse, an attempt to tear some of these things out at the root.
There's not really any party for the disaffected. Anywhere.
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Left-wing economic types have no principles. You should realize this too. Ask them how much welfare is enough. They can never answer, so you know it'll keep trending to more and more and more until you're paying 3/4 of your income in taxes.
I know, they're all 'throw money at the problem' and get angry if you want there to be positive results, not just feeling good about it. They don't want realistic solutions to many issues, they want to pretend they're helping and blame the lack of money if it doesn't.
Which again, generally leaves one politically homeless, because the other parties aren't really focused on solutions either, they just think cutting funding helps. It should be about trying to get the funding to where it's most realistically useful, but no one seems to care about actual solutions, just how much the falling current stopgap measures cost.
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It should be about trying to get the funding to where it's most realistically useful, but no one seems to care about actual solutions, just how much the falling current stopgap measures cost.
That's what prices do. They tell suppliers and demander what is most valued, where, and by how much (over time). Government and, to a lesser degree, non-profits don't really have this advantage, so there's always going to be waste (unintentionally) and waste for its own sake (self-enrichment, mission creep).
Though I'm surprised I ended up so far right on the economic scale, since beside when asked if the government should pay for student loans I basically agreed with having more welfare whenever asked.
Seems about right. Though most of those questions need a button 'the whole basis of that system is fricked and needs to be completely redesigned'
And what's with the greens all the way over there on the economic left? Are Australian greens different or something? Usually they're somewhat economically liberal centrists with a hard stance on environment and idpol
nod rly, it gets a bit r-slurred at the ends of that auth/lib axis, but otherwise the focus is to minimise economic leeching and exploitation and I vote for the usually still quite evil lesser evil party whoever's policies are in that direction.
the polcomp's biggest flaw is that it combines social conservatism with wanting a totalitarian govt (and vice versa, social progressivism with anarchy/liberty).
That's why most people get libleft, and a lot of cancel culture/tankie types get put in libleft. Because they're socially progressive, the test assumes they're not auth.
This is also why no one gets auth left. Because auth left would require you to be socially conservative with leftist econ (so a Strasserist, Nazbol or Sahra Wagenknecht type).
A better test is Sapplyvalues, which makes the Y axis ONLY auth/lib and adds a separate bar for socially con vs prog. On the Political Compass I get moderate auth right, but on Sapplyvalues I get slightly lib right with a conservative bar. Might make a post about other tests at another time.
rdrama leftoids in a nutshell. Somehow worse are the "fellow conservatives" who would unironically pick a Soviet style government over "shitlibs", never mind the Soviet Union promoting woke stuff since it's inception (and no, the Soviets position towards gays doesn't count, even in the 1980s the majority of westerners regarded homosexuality as a sexual deviance and a mental illness) plus gun ownership ban, no private property, no freedom of movement.
>BUT, BUT, LE COMISSARS AND GULAGS AND MASS EXECUTIONS, SO BASED
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Though most of those questions need a button 'the whole basis of that system is fricked and needs to be completely redesigned'
>tfw no option for the mass killing of all foreign property investors
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Usually they're somewhat economically liberal centrists with a hard stance on environment and idpol
If they had their way, everything would be price-controlled, overregulated, or outright prohibited. They are globally the most r-slurred and unhinged political group because anything they do justifies their goal of "saving" the world.
Jesus Christ dude. Were your only convictions strongly disagreeing about trans athletes and boat people and nothing else? You make me look like a far left Greenie.
Lol I did similar and yet? Sucks that they kicked Nuclear down the road when everyone was saying build one since the 90s. Now I'm like, is it too late and just a way for Gina to get a 20 year pivot?
Thought I was more grill-pilled, but this will do. Can we not put the LNP back in power, for at least one more term? They've had 19 of the last 25 years in office, I'm sick of their greasy, smug attitude pooping the place up even more than it already was
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Just call me Hitler, I guess.
I don't see myself as that socially conservative. But all the questions were hot-button...
s in foid sports, Australia Day, abo flags, equity quotas for undeserving women.
My opinions were mainstream lib-left in the 1990s, but they're suddenly polarising in Current Year + 9.
And there were no questions about supposedly progressive ideals like free speech, gay rights, equal opportunity... things I am on-board with.
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That's the big problem. You're either against all of it or for so much of it that it's basically the same as 100% support. It barely swings the needle, unless you're for the Greens.
My positions should be centre-left, but any version of left is so insane about trains, the Voice-type topics, immigration and even Palestine that you're now considered Nazi-level if you haven't been dragged with them to their extremes.
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I assumed you were a turbo rightoid
I've been surprised when I've read some progressive remarks of yours.
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I'm like a lot of people, someone who wanted things to go more left and then they went far, far past where I thought was appropriate. I'm not a nihilist or an accelerationist, but I've completely gone frick it and want the people (and type of people) who have caused so much heck and havoc, in ways that have permanently affected my life, to deal with some of the pain they claim to live in, let alone what they've wished on others.
To be sickeningly honest, I actually have empathy, and the people pretending to have it to fuel their hatred of the other are people I despise far more than those who are at least honest about it, and often end up being far more tolerant. You might only be 'one of the good ones', but at least they acknowledge there are good ones.
Also, if you can't say your most dramatic things here, where else can you.
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the left became gay
shit drop that focus on less migration and solving the housing crisis and labour might just sweep the floor if they could hold off backstabbing a PM.
god i miss k rudd i would go straight if he promised he would return to save us
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All Green parties worldwide took the environment and put it a distant third behind
s and socialism, to the point they don't even support environmental issues if they don't come with 'social reforms'.
So if you don't believe in idpol or equity, you're shit out of luck.
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I was where you were a couple years ago.
IMO the trajectory with immigration, race politics, gender politics and LGTV have put us way beyond that. I think only a hard right swerve can save us now.
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I sadly agree, because nothing seems to discourage all the rest of it.
s are still 100% supported while claiming they're victims, land acknowledgements are everpresent while both hypocritical and pure racist virtue signalling.
The closest thing to progress is that the multicultural couples in ads are closer to the actual racial makeup of Australia than the American 'random blacks' for the last few years. The melting pot is out the window, and 'Indigenous ways of knowing' are bringing religion back into science class but from an idpol leftist perspective. In his ham-fisted, carelessly illegal way, Trump is dismantling those sorts of problems, and Australia needs a similar deep cleanse, an attempt to tear some of these things out at the root.
There's not really any party for the disaffected. Anywhere.
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Left-wing economic types have no principles. You should realize this too. Ask them how much welfare is enough. They can never answer, so you know it'll keep trending to more and more and more until you're paying 3/4 of your income in taxes.
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I know, they're all 'throw money at the problem' and get angry if you want there to be positive results, not just feeling good about it. They don't want realistic solutions to many issues, they want to pretend they're helping and blame the lack of money if it doesn't.
Which again, generally leaves one politically homeless, because the other parties aren't really focused on solutions either, they just think cutting funding helps. It should be about trying to get the funding to where it's most realistically useful, but no one seems to care about actual solutions, just how much the falling current stopgap measures cost.
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That's what prices do. They tell suppliers and demander what is most valued, where, and by how much (over time). Government and, to a lesser degree, non-profits don't really have this advantage, so there's always going to be waste (unintentionally) and waste for its own sake (self-enrichment, mission creep).
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Been doing that already.
I probably voted similarly on social issues but I ranked higher on the social issues axis.
Well, it is named a vote compass, not a political compass.
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Fascist.
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commie
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why is it upside dow- ooh austraila
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Y'all are a bunch of chuds
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The test is weird, the compass put me closer to LNP but the answers are actually closer to ONP
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Jfc did you tell them you want to privatise the Government or something?
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Don't tread on me
Though I'm surprised I ended up so far right on the economic scale, since beside when asked if the government should pay for student loans I basically agreed with having more welfare whenever asked.
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Seems about right. Though most of those questions need a button 'the whole basis of that system is fricked and needs to be completely redesigned'
And what's with the greens all the way over there on the economic left? Are Australian greens different or something? Usually they're somewhat economically liberal centrists with a hard stance on environment and idpol
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The "left" economics greens believe in is usually made up stuff like rent and price controls and "just give people free money"
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So like I thought, capitalism with some welfare state. Full left hand side should signify literal communism.
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Are you a communist?
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According to this test I might be one of youse
Are you a specific kind of communist?
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nod rly, it gets a bit r-slurred at the ends of that auth/lib axis, but otherwise the focus is to minimise economic leeching and exploitation and I vote for the usually still quite evil lesser evil party whoever's policies are in that direction.
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the polcomp's biggest flaw is that it combines social conservatism with wanting a totalitarian govt (and vice versa, social progressivism with anarchy/liberty).
That's why most people get libleft, and a lot of cancel culture/tankie types get put in libleft. Because they're socially progressive, the test assumes they're not auth.
This is also why no one gets auth left. Because auth left would require you to be socially conservative with leftist econ (so a Strasserist, Nazbol or Sahra Wagenknecht type).
A better test is Sapplyvalues, which makes the Y axis ONLY auth/lib and adds a separate bar for socially con vs prog. On the Political Compass I get moderate auth right, but on Sapplyvalues I get slightly lib right with a conservative bar. Might make a post about other tests at another time.
!sophistry !freespeech
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time cubepolitical cube solves this3rd axis
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Like what exactly?
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Born into money, have a bunch of power for no particular reason, use that power to leech wealth from productive members of society.
Born poor but lazy, pretend that you can't find work, receive weekly cheque from the government, paid for by productive members of society.
Both must suffer.
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commie
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rdrama leftoids in a nutshell. Somehow worse are the "fellow conservatives" who would unironically pick a Soviet style government over "shitlibs", never mind the Soviet Union promoting woke stuff since it's inception (and no, the Soviets position towards gays doesn't count, even in the 1980s the majority of westerners regarded homosexuality as a sexual deviance and a mental illness) plus gun ownership ban, no private property, no freedom of movement.
!neolibs !freemarket
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Today I'm going to ping free market over culture war nonsense
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It's relevant because those cons engaged in culture war nonsense would ditch the free market because some "muh trains" shit.
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If they had their way, everything would be price-controlled, overregulated, or outright prohibited. They are globally the most r-slurred and unhinged political group because anything they do justifies their goal of "saving" the world.
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Green economics works because there are always more rich people to tax
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This is after re-weighting the importance of my answers. Weird how I align with Greens policies in principle but hate them.
But with Labor, they are not really left, so I think I'm a 'soft' rightoid technically.
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It was a shit political test imo.
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Given your party alignments you might be an actual radical centrist ™️
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Hmm I think ol' politicalcompass.org might be bs too
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That's insanely biased to the left !chuds
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!trump2024
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it conflates social left right with auth/lib when they're 2wo totally different things
most of the modern left is very socially lib (progressive) but also very authoritarian
and not particularly leftist
we need political cube..
but even then auth/lib can be broken down to statist authoritarian/anarchist and social authoritarian/individualist
so 4d political hypercube it is
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Lmao
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/01/kamala-harris-australasian-real-estate-conference-gold-coast-appearance-ntwnfb
!strayans
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Now I want to do the political compass test and compare the alignment with this vote compass.
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commie
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Nooooooo
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Says I should
vote for Pedro
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Jesus Christ dude. Were your only convictions strongly disagreeing about trans athletes and boat people and nothing else? You make me look like a far left Greenie.
Respect?
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I also opposed the carbon limits and am pro nuclear, that makes me a mega chud in Australia I guess. Lmao
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Lol I did similar and yet? Sucks that they kicked Nuclear down the road when everyone was saying build one since the 90s. Now I'm like, is it too late and just a way for Gina to get a 20 year pivot?
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Conservative with left-ish econ is better than the opposite at least.
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commie
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I NEED TO SECURE THE FRICKING MEANS OF PRODUCTION AAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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I NEED TO SECURE THE FRICKING MEANS OF RE PRODUCTION
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!nonchuds welcome me as a fellow liberal
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It says I 70% agree with Pauline Hanson. If I'm considered far right down there then you guys are absolutely fricked.
(Tbf I had to say I didn't know about most of the economic issues.)
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Where are the supposed centrists on this site?
Are you all secretly wingcucks?
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With my limited knowledge of Austraylun politics. I'd probably vote for BASED Bob Katter. Tended to be more left on economic and right on culture
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So many right-wing parties, yet they're all such cute twinks.
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Peter Dutton is far too reptilian.
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My rightoid mates aren't even taken by him
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he came off as more rightoid back in the day. Now's he's solidly globohomo.
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"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
Snapshots:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/vote-compass:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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What an r-slured quote. Only a politician could've come up with something so bad
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