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Calls for law to require 'clear yes' to s*x : unitedkingdom

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Context: Dr. Charlotte Proudman is a gigafeminist known for her hot takes, including:

Today, she has launched a campaign to change the law so that moids have to prove a foid consented when defending an accusation of r*pe. In her own words:

It would put the onus on defendants to show how she consented, if she wanted to have s*x, if she was asked if she wanted to have s*x, what steps did she take to make sure that she was wanting to have s*x and was enthusiastic about it.

Proudman (who I have personally diagnosed as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder) decided to make herself the face of the campaign, producing this wonderful poster:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1709671829612153.webp

The slogan itself has become a point of contention:

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https://x.com/BiFelicia319/status/1765044078897471864

https://x.com/jessothomson/status/1765080110141722910

https://x.com/Daisy_J_S/status/1765096615352959472

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https://x.com/LizMaryWard/status/1765065360271888644

https://x.com/beesley_cathy/status/1765059359447330969

https://x.com/jessothomson/status/1765080110141722910

Selected comments:

This is obviously r-slurred, but naturally there are some male feminists arguing against their own self-interest :malefeminist:

Why do you think this switches the burden of proof to the accused?

Because that's literally what she said it does? :marseyshrug:


The criminalisation of basic human behaviour continues.

I'm 30, there are only a handful of times the woman actually said ‘let's have s*x'

Which 'basic human behaviour' are you referring to, coercing women into s*x?

:marseysnoo: That Redditor should be arrested for not getting the consent forms signed!


I feel that these sorts of things are proposed in bad faith to make feminists look ridiculous.

:marseygigaretard: Feminists would never say something completely r-slurred unless they were plants.

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TFW there is no notary public around so you can get it in :marseydepressed:

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Favorable outcome: British people don't reproduce

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Unironically insuficient because consent can be revoked at any time.

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Every woman I know would dry up immediately if you asked for permission like a little b-word. "Uhm is it okay if I kiss you ma'am?"

Women want their men to be decisive. Shocker, right?

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>enthusiastic consent

All s*x needs to be exactly like how neurotic women send emails.

"Hello! Good day! Thank you for reading!!! I have a question that I would like to ask you! Please email me back at your earliest discretion if that is okay!!! Thank you for reading!!!!!!!!!"

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:marseyyayyyytext#:


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:marseyx#d:

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Why is this so fricking funny

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this cuck

Not a cuck, something much worse

as a gay woman

Lesbians really just don't like fricking do they?

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Lesbians shouldn't be talking about s*x anyway.

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I bet Tyrone gets an enthusiastic "YES SIREEE" or "tear my clothes off and rawdog me" that's why they doing it twice every night...

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Hey everyone, this guy's gay!! ^

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His wife

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Personally I ask for consent for everything, including between thrusts:

>may I put it in?

>may I take it out?

>may I put it in?

>may I take it out?

>may I c*m ?

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They actually want to be r*ped (consensually)

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The genghuis khan genetic line is strong in this one @sirpingsalot we gotta pump and crier

Trans lives matter

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I hear he Genghis culled ugly and independent women.

Only 90/60/90 pickmees survived the horde...

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I hear he Genghis culled ugly and independent women.

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For sure. I actually had to straight-up tell my idiot moid to stop asking for (or worse-- waiting for) permission, and to instead be decisive and assume the thing he wanted.

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!biofoids this is why u need to be nicer to men who grab your butt in public, fellows just trying to impress you by being decisive

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I'm fine with it as long as I can pat him in the peepee.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17156480765435808.webp

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You only actually need the explicit verbal consent if the woman is going to later accuse you of r*pe, and only an idiot or a male feminist would ever touch a woman who is going to later accuse him of r*pe. Normal people who can read social cues will be fine.


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Normal people who can read social cues will be fine.

This is exactly why consent boggles the mind of the average Redditor.

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Now, you might be wondering, would she really text me something like "oh my god last night was so fun, I'm so glad I consented to everything you did to me"? Well, her phone did. Times up gentlemen.

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Getting consent papers is bad enough but imagine how much of a mess everything will be once bureaucracy gets involved :marseysmug2:

You'll need your s*x permission signed three times with a blue pen on A4 paper, date entered correctly, and your names written clearly otherwise it won't be accepted in court. Oh and it must also be stamped by some official the next day after both of you will give an additional declaration of consent :marseycop:

It's what bongs deserve, I hope this will become a law :marseyagree:

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Oi did you the loicense for the s*x license

:#marseybongtalking:

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everything will be once bureaucracy gets involved

Bureaucracy should be involved. Its called marriage, and its an institution.

I want to be able to participate in making life without any risks or any consequences and without any input from others

Who you procreate with, should be determined in part by society and community. When we stopped allowing social pressures to effect procreation, we created broken homes and r-slur copulation, destroying our society's gene pool.

Like it or not, when community had input on this sort of issue we had >90% two parent households and a much healthier population. Mentally ill idiots can only think with their cute twink wieners. Reminds me of the r-slurred cute twinks who jerk off or practice sodomy. Your spilling your seed for no other reason than because you are too r-slurred to not give into your pleasure. You are making yourself less than human, like an animal, incapable of self control.

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I would rather get shit on by my upstairs neighbor on the balcony of "my" 75th floor, 200 sq ft, Walmart-owned apartment than live a week of my life with input from puritans.

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No one will force you to live by puritan rule, we'll just peacefully protest you with a powerful witch trial.

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You're right! Having to get a consent declaration and the signed approval of all your neighbours before fricking a girl is even better :marseyagreefast:

No bong will ever pass his genes again :marseybonggenocide:

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Well the problem is that they don't want the community or family involved in this decision making, they want the exact r-slurred cute twinks you complained about to be in charge of this. That's who the bureaucracy is.

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Tldr?

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i pretended my car was out of gas on a busy intersection and a guy started helping push it and i hit the gas making him fall flat on his face like a bum.

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Who?

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idk

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:#marseysoypoint: They said the line!


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:marsey#bardfinnbuckbreaker:

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:siren:BARD BOT ALERT!:siren:Current streak was: 0 days 00 hours 11 minutes and 29 seconds

Record is 1 days 13 hours 09 minutes and 59 seconds by TheDunceonFlorist

longest streak broken in the last 7 days was ChristMAsLLOWEENewYear which was 0 days 16 hours 12 minutes and 45 seconds

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We need to consult experts first to before we can have s*x :marseyitneverbegan:

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People forget that these women hate s*x with men. The wing nuts should not be defining laws

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The wing nuts should not be defining laws

isnt that how the system works tho?

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The wing nuts should not be defining laws

Yet feminists have done just that for decades. :marseysipping:

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There's nothing hotter than signing a lengthy NDA, having it notarized, and filed away before getting it on.

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I've heard Germans unronically say that

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3rd most popular fetish there after pissing and pooping

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But before cannibalism.

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get out the s*x folder, Liebling :horny: :marseypdf:

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ok but what if you accidentally forget to sign the consent notice, a consent accident if you will

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We are in the age where everyone has a camera phone. how hard is it to record the consent acceptance video message on the phone before proceeding?

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Consent can be withdrawn at any time, so that's not good enough. You have to record every thrust.

If this becomes law I'm going to get a hidden camera in my bedroom for when @X comes over.

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Make sure you revoke consent after the act is done.

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recording me without consent is r*pe, sweaty :marseyindignantwoman:

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There will be a footnote about the camera in the 48 page consent accepetion document you will sign before intercourse.

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What if the file size is too big? AV1? HEVC?? :#marseyinsane:

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What do you mean 'file size', this all has to be done on officially stamped paper.

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Not good enough considering consent can be withdrawn AFTER

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That was just a deepfake/She was pressured into it/She withdrew consent later/She consented under false pretenses/She had a glass of wine so could not consent/She was only 24 years old, literally a child, so could not consent

:#marseyradfemtalkingtyping:

and so on and so on and so on.

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nope that's revenge porn

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wasn't there a chappelle's show sketch about this

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:quote: kobe :quote:

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This would backfire on women horribly because if it got normalised that guys get you to text them "I Consent" before s*x women immediately lose all their power. Can't decide to fake the r*pe claim after dumping him because now he's got the receipts and foids were the one who said the receipts count, so tough shit b-word

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fake the r*pe

No worries

Never happens

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Of course it will boil down to he said/she said, the same as all crimes without definitive evidence do. What this campaign is pushing for is defenses like "she was dressed like that" and "she didn't say no" not being enough to imply consent.

Yes because the court accepts those defenses all the time

It'll probably never be relevant to you, just sayin'.

he fact that you feel that suggesting that people seek affirmative consent for s*x is enough to cause "attacks" on the left deeply concerns me.

If you bothered to read the rest of the article though it'd explain why the current system is clearly not sufficient and why they want to move the onus on the male feminist rather than on the victim as it currently is. In simple terms it's not acceptable that victims can be accused of implicitly giving consent then needing to prove they didn't consent. A lot of your takes on this resort to reductio ad absurdum, such as implying that a couple trying for a kid would need to explicitly get consent every time. But the reality is that the vast majority of regular long-term couples would know how to communicate properly. What the campaign is really trying to do is reduce the massive number of male feminists getting away with it based on them assuming consent, not couples trying for a kid.

This is absolutely psychotic. Needing to prove something happened is the very bedrock of any legal battle

Even better /u/psychovagabond is defending trains and muslims in his post history

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Why don't we have a state magister come and personally witness any act of fornication lest you be punishable under law by 30 years hard labor in a penal colony?

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Deport the fornicators to Van Dieman's Land where they belong!

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>And yet, she “felt like she was on trial” and had to prove “that she had adequately resisted”, she told The Standard.

>She said: “There was a really brutal defence questioning that made me wonder: ‘Am I responsible for what happened to me because I didn't say no? Was me crying not enough?'.”

I don't like this woman.

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Exactly what society deserves for condoning premarital s*x. Enjoy getting convicted of r*pe and/or having to sign a contract on video before fricking the guy you meet in the club.

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Excuse you incel, spousal r*pe is real and exactly why the patriarchal cisheteronormative institution needs to be done away with. This is exactly why we need everyone to be in a polycule. To be witness to and mayhaps intervene in the event of a consent accident

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spousal r*pe is real but it only happens with hindus and muslims namaste

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Making a giant close-up of her face the poster for the campaign is peak Proudman lmao

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OI YOU GOT A LOICENSE TO FRICK THAT CHAV INNIT? :marseybongcop:

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:marseyracistchec#k2: oy nevuhmind spessman, carry on!

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Just because I said I wanted s*x when we started doesnt mean its not r*pe two minutes later :marseyindignant!:

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So stupid, even Redditors are against it.

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Foids are desperately trying to make consensual s*x more complicated and potentially punishable than straight up r*pe

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Another day I thank God for making me gay


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>Dr. Charlotte Proudman

>Proudman

You can't make this shit up

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Lmao guys will just start lying and say she said yes. It's not reasonable to assume they could prove it unless they set up a hidden camera to jerk off to the recording later.

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But remember, foids are totally not responsible for the complete destruction of society :marseythumbsup:

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Proudman lmao

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Hello Dahncer_the_reindeer, or should I say r*pedeer? 8 letters, fitting huh. If this life were perfect you'd have known nothing but milk and cookies since you left your birthers c*nt. However, it's not- that's where I come in.

You have no say anymore, no freedom, no volition- I am Santa. You now worship my Christmas tree. You can call me Nicholas. A saint? No, but I come with more conviction.

Dahncer_the_reindeer you are my r*pe sleigh-ve now. And that's your greatest achievement- all you've ever amounted to, tugging and pulling my sleigh as we break the space time continuum together you complete fricking slut. I'll find you.

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1b7bpvc/im_asking_for_it_calls_for_law_to_require_clear/:

The only person of colour in the royal family isn't present because Meghan Markle was bullied out.:

It would put the onus on defendants to show how she consented, if she wanted to have s*x, if she was asked if she wanted to have s*x, what steps did she take to make sure that she was wanting to have s*x and was enthusiastic about it.:

Why do you think this switches the burden of proof to the accused?:

The criminalisation of basic human behaviour continues.:

I'm 30, there are only a handful of times the woman actually said ‘let's have s*x':

I feel that these sorts of things are proposed in bad faith to make feminists look ridiculous.:

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Horse :marseypony2: shoe theory :marseygoldenhorseshoe: of s*x should :marseynorm: only be for reproduction when you get you state :marseyusa: issued liscense

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well, if any s*x is going to be considered r*pe anyways.....

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I hope this shit becomes law everywhere just from an accelerationist perspective, the idea of people having to argue in a court of law whether given consent was "enthusiastic" enough is hilarious.

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