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1. Good lord man you are obsessed. Checks ops post history, all he posts about is how star citizen is terrible lmao. What kind of smear campaign are you running here? Go on drop the figure, how much money did you donate in the first place to be THIS obsessed about bad mouthing it?
2. Say it with me: You aren’t forced to spend hundreds of dollars for the best ship. The cheapest to play the game is $35-45. You can earn the most expensive $$$ currently flyable ship in game. There are multiple game loops, cargo hauling, bounty hunting, mining, and being a criminal. Plus other side missions. The devs are the most transparent about their progress than any other game studio with 3 videos a week highlighting their progress. Players are physically FORCED to check a box before buying a ship stating “you are backing an unfinished alpha game” just because a $2000 ship exists doesn’t mean you are forced at gun point to buy it. There is no trickery, support the game or not, in the end it’s the players fault if they feel scammed. Especially with the copious amount of gameplay / let’s play videos out there, judge it for yourself.
3. Star Citizen is a scam. Plain and simple.
4. I told people YEARS ago that this "game" was a scam and would never see a proper release. People got big mad at me. Apparently I was the idiot and didn't know what I was talking about. lmao.
5. You can play it now... If you like it you can spend more... "Game launch" doesn't matter to the people playing it nightly. Also totally normal post history there OP
6. So is this your only hobby? Pooping on Star Citizen? It’s literally your entire post and comment history. I feel for you. Try to enjoy something, let others enjoy something.
7. Biggest scam in gaming history and dumb asses still pay them. Lol a joke of a game and player base
8. How does one even spend this much money and not have a game to show for it? This is mismanagement in its purest form.
9. The sheer Copium posts of star citizen supporters never bores.
10. Who cares. EA makes 7 billion a year and look at how many of those games flop, look how many are unfinished and being left behind. They cant even put their NhL game on PC.
11. Biggest scam in gaming history
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Valve tried to have an anarchist company structure (even hiring that commie Greek finance minister to advise it).
They produced some good side projects but major projects like Half life 3 never went anywhere.
Sometimes you need a benevolent dictator to get shit in shape. It sounds like the developers just work on whatever they fancy.
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Because it's true, their roadmaps constantly had stuff delayed or pushed back until it happened so often people got fed up so they stopped making them.
The cultists eat it up every time though.
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There's no way to fix their netcode because the guy in charge is a complete r-slur.
They might still be using CryEngine, idk. Either way Croberts wanted r-slur shit like independent motion tracking for every aspect of a ship, and all that data shared online. He wanted you to be a able to see a player character move their controls if you did a close enough flyby.
They almost immediately gave up on an open world design and instance their battles too
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Robberts has always had a fetish for "cinematic" stuff even back to his original gamedev days. Shit dev, shittier writer. He spent the entirety of the 2000s in Hollywood after all. I still can't believe he was a producer for Lord of War.
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Lul he directed the Wing Commander movie. Mf thought it was his big break. Can't believe he came back from that
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Never forget:
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he needs to come back
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this is the same problem the yandere simulator dev had lol
which reminds me of that garbage fire. i remember he tried to buy a subreddit for $3000
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Second biggest problem. His first was not knowing how to use unity and using infinite if/else statements in main() instead of a state machine.
Read his leaked code and some of his error logs. It's beyond belief. Everyhing is a public variable too I think. 1000s of lines of interdependent booleans with no error logging
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oh yeah I completely forgot about that
his C# was sooooo bad. i remember too he wanted to hire a programmer to tidy up the code but also didn't want any of it changed because it was "too hard" to read the better code so the dev he hired to help basically just quit lol
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That second dev is apparently the only reason the save feature works
There's not a single function in yandev's code, just if/elses passing booleans and shit like
Var1 = Var2
Because he doesn't understand the idea of just passing a variable along
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This is what code written by actual neurodivergent people would look like, not just people who joke about being neurodivergent.
Most neurodivergents are terrible programmers because they're also r-slurred.
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All you need for error logging is Serial.println whichever Case you're in
That said, stay out of my Arduino projects.
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There's nothing. No logs or checks or ANYTHING just a mega function. Highly recommend reading his monthly bug fix reports, it's like a parody.
For example:
It's all boolean logic with no destructors for anything and constant race condition bugs
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What even is this game. It's by the cake guy right
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This game is an award-winning masterpiece by one of the most brilliant minds in the industry. It's a work of art that has been enjoyed by millions of people around the world. I suggest you take a look around and see what you're missing out on, because it's obvious you know nothing about this game or its creator.
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It's by the c*m chalice guy, was supposed to be an open world yandere simulator where you play a Japanese high school girl murdering her rivals in love
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despite being greedy and lazy r-slurs, valve actually does do a lot of work with networking and anticheat and other infra shit behind the scenes, they just don't make a big deal about it:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/GameNetworkingSockets
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Milking dota and CSGO paypigs to fund unintrusive anticheat development and new hardware is based as frick. I love the GDC talks, the one about the overwatch system is pretty insightful.
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Valve's basically the opposite of star citizen's development process despite having the same ethos. the core difference is that valve's devs are more neurodivergent and like working on backend shit instead of frontend shit, which is the important distinction.
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I imagine maintaining Steam is also a big factor, they know firsthand how important backend stuff is when that's like 90% of what steam is.
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At some point the roadmap didn't come out on time so they made a roadmap for the roadmap
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Just a hunch, but I think this might have been their biggest problem.
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Greek has a famously corrupt public sector iirc
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Hold on, what? explain.
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Valve hired a trendy economist named Yanis who advised them on their company structure and philosophical e-commerce stuff. He later became finance minister in a left wing Greek gov that famously refused to pay bankers back.
https://www.destructoid.com/valve-went-ahead-and-hired-an-economist/
His Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis
Valve also released a company handbook around that time and it sounded pretty cool https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/apps/valve/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf
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Basically devs were allowed to work
on any project 
they wanted there 
was no set strict roles which famously caused many 
new projects to be born 
and abandoned
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I already know about Valves unorthodox way to treat devs, I was just unaware that they hired some BIPOC Communist politician to be behind that!
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I remember reading
some article being like " valve 
employee is now minister of economy of Greece 
" and laughing 
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I also heard the pay
was somehow tied into a project's success, so devs ended up basically only working on microtransaction projects instead of taking AAA gambles, and that's why HL3 was basically cancelled 
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Difference is Volvo still hire competent people and can cherry pick applicants because of their:
A) Almost mythic level they are as a company
B) Steam prints money so flops aren’t the end of the world
Even with the Volvo structure they have managed to put out the Valve Index which is the best VR headset on the market alongside Half Life Alyx. As well as just having launched the steam deck which is also fantastic, i should know I own both.
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We need more Troikas
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I think star citizen makes an excellent counterexample, though. 500 mil and Chris Roberts running the ship and you're still 500 mil deep into the biggest scam known to g*merkind. What you really need is someone who's actually working towards the right goals, and can keep everyone else in line.
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didnt the greek finance minister go from valve to greece
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Literally unironically yes. You gotta work those nerds like slaves
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Everytime i see the seethe about muh explotation of the artists and codecels is coming from a bluehair diversity hire that made like 200k a year working a cushy job at the company with plenty of benefits to boot.
I mean, still frick EA for different reasons but frick these champagne socialists more.
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EA manages to pump out way more games while Valve has pretty much slowed to one release every few years.
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so you get 500 million dollars for letting your devs free?
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Are those numbers true? Is it really at 500m? That is absolutely insane.
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I've heard Crowdfunding is good for money laundering
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The internet revolutionized money laundering to the same extent it revolutionized everything else
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Going beyond the obvious scam part and looking at the actual product they now have, did anyone here play it? The bloated budget inherently results in a bloated game with a scope so big it can't even be entertaining.
I was watching a video like year and a half ago and even then it looked so painfully unenjoyable, it was like a 30 minute video all of which was spent mining resources. Everything needed to have a detailed mechanic, I mean that's what you do with a budget that big, which just turned it into a chore instead of a game.
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My BILs got me to try it with them on a free weekend. My experience(running a 2700x /RX580 with 16gb of RAM) was that it took over half an hour to get into the game, which promptly crashed, then i spent fifteen minutes reconnecting. Then I had sub ten FPS on Low settings at 720p, which took twenty minutes to become playable enough to stop stuttering.
At which point I find out I spawned on a different world from them, so after spending seven minutes getting from my spawn to the spaceport, I had to wait an additional fifteen for them to arrive. At this point Im over an hour and a half into my experience and have yet to encounter anything constituting gameplay; but I have wandered into many invisible walls and encountered no NPCs whatsoever.
Whatever, I get in their ship when they arrive, get back out into space, which takes forever because apparently the atmosphere of the planet I spawned on is especially thick, finally head into FTL travel to my first mission killing some pirates.
Over two hours in by this point, I get my first bit of gameplay, where I have to maneuver onto the ship being raided. Of course, having loaded into a new zone, my fps tanks once more, and I'm struggling to accomplish anything. Then the shooting starts and its some awfully generic high lethality garbage. Whatever, we clear the first floor and I get in an elevator to go down and somehow clip into the floor and am crushed to death.
Then the game glitches out and my spawn point goes back to the starting planet instead of my brother's ship, and I ask them both if they find this enjoyable. For some inexplicable reason, they are having fun. Hats off to them I guess but holy shit that game is fricking awful.
I uninstalled immediately after.
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Your pulitzer's in the mail
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My condolences, having family member with neurodivergentally niche hobby is awful.
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Even if it doesnt bug out on your or crash it'll run like shit unless you have a giga PC. It's just inaccessible to the average person.
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Redditors larping as a space traveler in the future and still being boring bottom feeders of society
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The frickin drink mix minigame for people stuck playig space flight attendant
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Scam Citizen doesn't even seem like a fun game even if everything they promised was true.
Theres already plenty of boring sandbox games where you explore barren terrain to collect bullshit to craft more bullshit.
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You will never be a real neighbor. You have no melanin, you have no opps, you have no drip. You are a headass cracka twisted by drugs and gang shit into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “homies” laugh at your ghoulish skin behind closed doors.
Hood neighbors are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed neighbors to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even tronkies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a neighbor. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to hang with you, he'll turn tail and bolt the second he hears your chipmunk butt crakoid vocal signature.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it's going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They'll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a honky is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably white.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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Isn't Star Citizen being developed by the same guy who did Freelancer? I remember he had massive plans for that game, but the studio at the time Digital Anvil told him to get the project out or BTFO. From my own research it seems the guy tends to get really caught up on making the "Perfect" Space game only to get sidetracked on minute details. Seems like this is what's been going on with Star Citizen for years now.
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Not only that, Star Citizen was initially billed as the “real” version of Freelancer he didn’t get to make.
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Yeah i remember that. Thats what drew me into star citizen back in i believe 2008. Thank god i was a broke kid.
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Why initially? It still is. He was forced to finish Freelancer turning into one of the all-time greats, but if people had accepted his creative vision it could still be vaporware in the current year.
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Hasn't it been like 10 years now?
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Next time they have a free weekend, join and mildly criticize the game in global chat. Make sure you mention your disappointment is because how long the developwment has taken to get here. Sit back and enjoy the coping. Do not try to play the game, it's way too buggy
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isn't scam citizen that comedian from the 80s that was always YELLING
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In 99% of all cases, if you get scammed you deserve it
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Gotta respect the hustle.
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I told my friend who was excited for this game that it would never actually come out. He looked at me like I was crazy and said it probably would be out in a year or two. Well whos laughing now, dipshit?
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You could have bought silver instead of ships in a buggy video game.
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