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Redactor asks the tough question of the Surgeon General: Well then why don't you show how many calories are in alcoholic beverages? :marseyhmm:

https://apnews.com/article/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning-label-e12d879108d3d6298052df0369f2e4a7

Murthy argues in his advisory, noting alcohol consumption is to blame for nearly one million preventable cancer cases in the U.S. over the last decade. About 20,000 people die every year from those alcohol-related cancer cases

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They expect people who are drinking enough to get cancer from it to be so into the health food craze to be scared of that? You could eat like 2 fewer hot pockets per year and it would do as much good. Most of these people probably smoke, which is where you've actively made a decision that you're okay with getting cancer.

The hypocrisy of this is just astounding. We put warning labels on alcohol products about stuff that everyone knows (you might actually be worse at driving! :marseyshook:) but for some reason reason out of all food and drink, booze has an exception for nutritional information. Why? When did this start? What possible justification is there for this? Why in the frick would you print any kind of warning on it if you won't even just tell women it's going to make them fat? Why do we go through this charade of pretending the government in Elliot Ness when there's tax incentives for the wine industry, the beer industry, the weed industry, the mushroom industry. Extreme taxes on the tobacco industry because I guess they were actually the ones really hurting people.

The Surgeon General's office has not replied to MNN's request for comments.

Also BTW am I literally the first fricking person in America who ever noticed this? I have never in my entire life ever heard anyone notice that alcohol makes your product less regulated.

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Huge pet peeve of mine and I'm equally flabbergasted. We have 10 trillion regulations on everything but, somehow, knowing the nutritional content of beverages that a hundred million Americans consume regularly is a step too far? We can ban trans fat and other stuff and dictate to people what they're allowed to consume or not. But merely being informed about what ingredients are in alcohol is apparently a government overreach. And like you said, I would normally be entitled to know, but the second alcohol is added to something, it becomes a big secret. What the frick is this nonsense?

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It might hurt the poor local brewers, and wineries, and Constellation, and AB Inbev...

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Well, like with everything else, they can carve out exceptions for establishments with less than 5 locations or however that shit goes. That's how calorie reporting laws work, as I recall. There could be an equivalent for breweries if they make under x thousand gallons annually or whatever is reasonable. But, it's a dumb copout anyways, because they know what ingredients they are making their own products with, right? So, literally just list the ingredients and then take 5 seconds to calculate the sugar grams and so forth.

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It's not quite that simple because a lot of the stuff in beer is off gassed during fermentation but there's literally a calculator for the calories:

https://homebrewacademy.com/beer-calories-calculator/

You don't even need to carve out exceptions for small breweries, even a homebrewer can figure out how many calories are in their beer.

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Neighbor wtf is an og

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Anyone who's actually brewing knows what original gravity is and everyone else can fricking Google it.

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9.8 m/s^2


:chad!black2: :marseybear::marseyrefrigerator:

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Seems gay, so no

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what ingredients are in alcohol

It's just the one ingredient dumbass.


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I'm a booze enjoyer, but I think a big reason is we all enjoy alcohol and genuinely do not want to be confronted with how bad it actually is for us

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Korea :marseyhwacha: has european :marseyangelamerkel: levels of alcoholism :marseytabletired2: despite :marseybipocattentionseeker: 50% of the population having alcohol :marseyhungover: intolerance. :marseykneel:

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100 calories a shot :marseychonker2:


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Yes

I don't want to know how much the 10.5% stout is killing me

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skill issue, my whiteclaws have a nutrition label :marseynails:

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Zoomer suicide bombers soon?

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Soon just without the bombings

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Here's the difference. The muslims drink, the zoomers are actually dry.

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All alcohol should have nutrition facts

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I just want to know how many vitamins I'm getting. :marseyshrug:

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Alcohol is regulated by the ATF and its predecessors since ye olde days, because they were charging federal excise tax :marseymerchant:. This is true for most other countries too. When they created the FDA to regulate other foods they exempted alcohol for that reason, and FDA rules is where nutrition labels come from.

Why can't we just extend FDA some authority over nutrition labeling for booze? Ummm we just can't okay!

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The earnings from alcohol are just as irresistible as ever. For example, in late :marseycomrade: times, Gorbachev's efforts to curb alcoholism (by banning them) were squashed because it meant that Soviet coffers will dry up much faster, since alcohol-related tax formed a huge portion of Soviet spending (even more during the Tsarist era)

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ATF

I miss my boomer times (the 1940s) when the Treasury Department T-Men didn't frick around asking Congress for permission to beat the shit out of a guy. :marseyboomer:

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I was always curious about that, who knows what's in premade cocktails.

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Whatever the frick it is, it's way too acidic. I can't drink one without puking. :marseysad:

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:#platyold:

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I was confused about this over the weekend and trying to look up the calorie content of beer

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A lot of companies publish that information on their website but if you use My Fitness Pal or a similar app, you can usually look up the beers from larger companies, as well as a surprising amount of smaller brewers, and if it's not listed you can probably find a generic one of whatever style you're drinking and it'll be close enough.

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It's the same here in Europe

They added ingredients and nutritional values on some beer brands but I'm pretty sure it's not all of them

Wines, spirits and cocktails are a mystery

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I never noticed it until I started gymmaxxing and tracking my calories

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