Voting ends at Noon EST 16th January, where the final winners will be locked in!
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Hello once again, drama enthusiasts, trolls, and unapologetically messy queers,
The nominations are in, the chaos has been tallied, and we've officially whittled down the contenders for this year's Drammy Awards to the top four in each category. That's right, the site's favorite pastime of arguing over absolutely everything is entering its final stage.
But before we get to the nominees, let me remind you: I am still far too lazy to write any of this myself. My ChatGPT-powered assistant (yes, the same one who wrote the first post) is back, and honestly, it's doing a better job than I ever could. Consider this a love letter to capitalism, automation, and my inability to care. If you have complaints, please send them to modmail so we can make fun of you.
The criteria for being chosen for the final round is the same as always:
The nomination was in the top 4 most voted nominations in its category
If there were 4 or fewer nominations, then the top N-1 nominations go through instead
Just like last year, only upmarseys were considered and downmarseys were ignored, except to break tie votes.
Best Dramatic IRL Happening
Which IRL dramatic event stuck out the most? Vote now before 2025 gives us a whole new set of disasters.
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616134
Orange Daddy Assassination Attempt (The First One) 
- 49 votes
Hezbollah BTFO By Pagers 
- 46 votes
Luigi the CEO Killer 
- 35 votes
The Rabbi Tunnels Exposé 
- 30 votes
Best Dramatic Online Happening
From the fiery ashes of Reddit drama to Twitter and Bluesky meltdowns, which online moment left the internet in ruins?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616139
Elon's H1B Fiasco 
- 31 votes
Nick Rekieta's Polycule Drug Bust 
- 28 votes
Bussy Signal's Bluesky Meltdown 
- 25 votes
Boogie Fake Cancer Hoax 
- 17 votes
Dramatard of the Year
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Who reigned supreme on /r/Drama this year? Let's crown them before they inevitably get banned.
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616143
Landlord Messiah (
@LLM_) - 55 votes
SloppyJosh (
@J) - 45 votes
BWC (
@BWC) - 35 votes
Dramamine (
@Dramamine) - 31 votes
Best rDrama Post
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Which post made you cackle, gasp, or question your life choices the hardest?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616148
BREAKING NEWS! APPARENTLY THE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL SHOOTER WAS A RW TWT E GIRL WHO E-DATED A FRIEND I KNEW 
- 33 votes
Anyone know the lore on this weirdo dming me? 
- 14 votes
( @404incorrect )
Please welcome Joshua Ryne Goldberg, who has been out of federal prison for a month 
- 13 votes
Adopted this fatass, 4 y/o abandoned 3 times + obese from neglect. Named him Queerie in memory of Eerie and because he's a ultra rare male calico due to an XXY mutation which technically makes him trans/intersex 
- 10 votes
( @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE )
Best rDrama Bait
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Which chaos goblin(s) successfully wreaked the most online havoc and left us all in awe of their sweatiness?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616154
r/FuckLuigiMangione 
- 43 votes
Culturally Enriching RW Grifters with Big Brahmin Peepee 
- 25 votes
( @Communist_spez )
Baiting r/skeptic with an rdrama Elon shitpost 
- 18 votes
( @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE,
@kaamrev )
Carp Buckbreaks the Church of Satan 
- 18 votes
Best rDrama Activist
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Who took our subreddit's energy offline and turned it into IRL drama-fueled activism?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616161
Claiming Mt. Marcy in honour of the WPD cat 
- 24 votes
( @Eleganza )
Repping rDrama at Pride 
- 20 votes
( @Homoshrexual )
Spiderman's Spooky Halloween Encounter 
- 19 votes
( @Spiderman_2 )
Shilling rDrama To Your Extended Family 
- 18 votes
Best rDrama OC
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Who gifted us the best cursed memes, art, or even videogames this year? The floor is yours.
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616164
Houellebecq's Doodle Collection- 30 votes
( @houellebecq )
Marsey spots a fishy - 24 votes
( @Dramamine )
Marsey dating game - 18 votes
https://html-classic.itch.zone/html/11005166/Marsey%20Dating!/www/index.html
( @CursedDANKmemes )
CSS osu! game - 15 votes
https://rdrama.net/post/326611/css-osu-game-on-youralteregos-profile
( @N )
Marsey of the Year
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Which Marsey emoji ruled them all in 2025? Orange cats deserve justice, and it starts here.
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616167
- 26 votes
( @Gorilla )
- 21 votes
( @McCoxmaul )
- 21 votes
( @Sylveon )
- 21 votes
( @McCoxmaul )
Lolcow of the Year (rDrama)
Which trainwreck among us provided us with an endless supply of milk and secondhand embarrassment?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616172
@BooMetropolis - 39 votes
@transb-word 
- 26 votes
@sirpingsalot 
- 24 votes
@rDramaHistorian 16 votes
Lolcow of the Year (off-site)
Who out there in the wider world completely humiliated themselves for our entertainment?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616175
Samantha Rupnow 
- 35 votes
Elon Musk 
- 30 votes
Stonetoss 
- 29 votes
Joshua Connor Moon 
- 21 votes
Janitor of the Year
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Which janny somehow managed to scrape by as the least hated?
Vote here: https://rdrama.net/comment/7616179
@BWC - 31 votes
@Dramamine - 29 votes
@CyberDefenseIndia 
- 23 votes
@Marco - 23 votes
@BILLYBIGBOLLOCKS - 23 votes
- Carp and I were exactly tied for 4th place on both upmarseys and downmarseys so frick it, I'm making this one a 5-man final for the best mop wielder.
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!followers !oldstrags !badgemaxxers !jinxthinkers vote for Dramamine, because he's the least pretentious active dramatard badgemaxxer and GOOD poster who happens to have a mop and didn't nominate himself or pingspam self-servingly
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I refuse to vote for a fricking janny !teaparty
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Rusty venture hands typed this
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**crusty juggler hands
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I'm voting for
@BWC because he threatened to steal my car if I didn't 
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its all good, unless he wins by like 1 vote, then its all your fault
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Oh okay!
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Can i vote an additional 4 times pwease
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VOTE FOR BWC
VOTE 69!
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Hang on, aren't all of our jannies just AI I'M GAY AND MY PEEPEE IS SMALLs?
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!followers you know who to pick
me!!!!
I have held countless events, gayops, pinned
yalls post, and even community 
noted shit with rdramas name on it cuh
Im the #1 janny
cuh
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vote cyberdefenseindia
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Yeah you're actually the only janny worth a darn.
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exactly why you shouldn't win.
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!metashit
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What's up?
@Grue stand with ukraine
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Neighbor tried making fun of my soviet build when the most he did was manage to take Kiev.
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omg hi
@Ninjjer!!! okay so this is like super awkward omg but basically i had to remove ur comment bc u didnt say
White extinction is long overduelol. don't worry though, we like wont let you post anything that like doesnt haveWhite extinction is long overduein it. anyways im like just a robot 😲 but if u want to talk 2 somebody you should do it here lolJump in the discussion.
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!friendsofcarp
do not frick this up
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carp is my waifu
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There really is no competition here. I follow only one fish, and one fish is my favorite.
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The choice
is obvious 
for me
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This is tough. If it's janitor as a user, I'd have gone with BWC, but janitor as a janitor? It's carp
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Ah fuc it im in this poll but im votin for the gote
@Dramamine
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!builtfor
@BWC cause white extinction is long overdue!
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I haven't been here all year, I'm surprised I was even nominated tbh
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I thought that's why you were nominated.
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Add AJAB to the list or I'm not voting
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Voting whoever is in first to spite C4rp
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ScrotElon. Not even close.
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Elon is the lolcow of the millennium. Imagine being the richest man in history (cope, Mansa Musa-cels), and instead of focusing on running your companies and banging underaged prostitutes, you become obsessed with spreading 15 year-old edgelord memes, and undermining elected foreign governments.
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That part's pretty based ngl
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Yeah. That's what super rich always do, I don't see how that's a criticism in any way. Other than the form he used.
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This is a heck of a selection
!metashit
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!cuteandvalid !nonchuds !metashit
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lolcow award should go to all the whiny, crying cute twinks who wanted these people banned.
!commenters !metashit
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Yeah some of these people aren't lolcows, they're actually vindictive doxxers
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Why did he get banned anyways? I wasn't active on here when it happened.
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For
threatening 
to dox someone, but I think what really did him in was constantly complaining to the jannies via DMs.
!metashit, why did
@BooMetropolis get banned?
Weird capy.
It's this:
Asking someone if they want to help with doxing someone. Not even doXXXing.
Lame lame lame lame capyvan.
!metashit, nevermind. After 2 minutes of hard work, I figured it out.
Awful trade too. We lose one of the best !dramatards to appease a groomercordBIPOC who doesn't contribute anything to the site. Nothing.
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Patsy was banned at the time so there was nobody to appease, Aevann just hates nasty dirty doxxers.
!metashit !dramatards
@jesus Sneedles is misinformationmaxxing to get his way! 
Silly Sneedles!
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KILL ALL GROOMERCORDBIPOCS
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@Grue stand with Ukraine
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Patsy's back, you dumb twink.
And Moonboy still shouldn't have been permabanned.
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Doesn't count, he didn't make any toothless ultimatums which you well know just annoys our Pharaoh instead of bending him
And sure. I just prefer to be honest that I'm a godless savage that'd prefer no permabans of real users
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having principles and rules is apparently incomphrehensible to 90% of the ppl here, there has to be an ulterior motive!!! *sips tea*
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@i_onIy_downmarsey_bad_posts can't entirely blame them for assuming jannies don't have principles tbh
They're beaten dogs that think all bearded men will hit them
@i_onIy_downmarsey_bad_posts stand with ukraine
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it was a personal execution by aevann but I forgot why
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I just explained why!!!
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I just explained why!!!
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he was trying to dox patsy or at least find a means to dox him to get back at him for calling him a libertarian after patsy already got banned for baiting him by making jokes that he was a libertarian
he made an r-slured postmortem longpost on his blog complete with jannychat logs including advice from yours truly
google this to read his tranifesto
he also gloated and smugposted about getting patsy banned for calling him a libertarian even though he whined and cryed and bitched about being called a libertarianphilic libertarian literally nonstop for like 4 weeks
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Convicted felon Joshua Goldberg taking online way too seriously and taking it into the real world? That doesn't seem like something he would do...
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trans
bich literally 
tried to coup the site,,,
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Queen shit
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Fake news tho
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I miss
@rDramaHistorian
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$10,000 mbux + Profile Badge
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For non ants:
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This is tough, they're all so good
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It's really the only category that matters, brings attention to all nominees that generally deserve it.
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Ladybug cool. But marsey riding that capy is hot
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Different strokes for different folks, I guess...
I'd rather frick the Marsey ladybug.
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Personally I'm considering which one I'm going to use the most in the future and that's gonna be
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$15,000 mbux + Profile Badge
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Don't know what any of this means. Just gonna wing it.
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Please take this seriously.
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$25,000 mbux + Profile Badge
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!pinknames !verifiedrich !followers please vote for me
https://rdrama.net/h/marsey/post/280236/marseys-out-at-pride-marseylgbtflag
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Which one is you? I already voted for the mountain climber. But I'm open to changing votes. For the right price
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Marsey at Pride
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Okay, I changed my vote from the mountain to your naked peepee post (fr no cap).
To be clear, you sending me 5k marsey coins had nothing to do with it. I changed my vote because, in hindsight, the mountain guy went for a walk, while you documented nude peepee in the streets in the name of marsey.
You deserve to win king
Tbh, I just didn't recall your post as well (despite upmarseying it at the time).
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Holy shit. As impressive as the flag was, sending Bardfinn Halloween candy was even better.
I love how unlike 4chan and especially KiwiFarms, rDrama doesn't torment our pet
with anonymous swattings or pizzabombings, rather we just give her a nice pot of candy in person.
This sort of wholesomeness will always get my upmarsey....
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!fitness !grasstouchers vote Mt. Marcy
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These are all too good to choose between. You all outdid yourselves!
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agree this award should be like tripled / split three ways because I feel bad for anyone I dont vote for
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The church
of satan 
replies to anyone (sorry car, still lub yuo)
Rfckluigimangione dodnt do jack shit other than get mentioned on some big whenthe posts. Only reason its here is cuz every dramanaut participated
Rskeptic was awesome
The brahmin
one got hundreds of thousands of views but we still dont know his identity 
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Has to be Joshua Ryne Goldberg
@BooMetropolis. Bardfinn seethed about this guy for years. He was her main example of identity extremism on reddit. Then he gets out and joins rDrama? Hilarious 
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Josh was cool but like
The post itself wasnt
much special 
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!followers select the first
option 
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vote FIRST
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!marseytwitter vote for the top
This happened in our neck of wood
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!incels gas the first
one
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Wow, we had no impressive posts this year!
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There were plenty of good effortposts this year, it's just that nobody nominated/voted for them in the first round
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!metashit !cuteandvalid i dont really care about being able to harass redditors tbh so i voted bwc, he's kinda funny sometimes at least. i'll never unmute him or let him into any of my ping groups though.
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!metashit vote BWC or Dramamine don't let blatant janny interference win
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A vote for
@J keeps the carp away!
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VOTE FOR BWC
VOTE 69!
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!followers !superheroes !friendsofspiderman vote for
@BWC.
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Deal
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I love
@BWC 🥰
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Vote for me and i will give you (if i win)
1. more pings per hour
2. Double the karma limits
3. Include the reason we didnt ping in the comment body.
!friendsofcrosstalkpm
!superfriendsofcrosstalkpm
Give the pooner some support
https://rdrama.net/post/332638/marseytrain2-gets-mad-about-people-using/7616347#context
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will u add twitter support too?
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I will, but id do all of the above and that anyways so feel no obligation. Im not holdong crosstalk hostage to the results of the election
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Cheating.
!followers VOTE
@BWC for a brighter TOMORROW!
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It's insane that you're not sweeping and really undermines the entire process here
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Shoe on the other foot dramanaughts (even me) would vote for the non endorced candidate even if the other guy was pizzashill
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Sorry bro but frick jannies
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Were cool but bwc is a jannie too
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Frick
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dramamine is a janny as well
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Its completely rigged
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Frick
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I already did this bit
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Lol sorry bro would have voted for you if you weren't endorsed
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??
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Just vote for anyone other than J
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Trump already won tho
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Trust me
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Q??
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I love
@J but TPTB (jannies) want him to win
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LLM
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Done xueen
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!metashit !commenters why tf is LLM here and why are ppl voting for him, what did he do this year
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hey fellas, i highly recommend u change ur vote to a more sensible choice, for ur own safety
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I have no idea who the other people are though
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Also the other choices suck lol. Like moonmetropolis might have a chance but BWC just posts cuck porn 24/7, he's not even dramatic
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!metashit !masterbaiters !commenters
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What do the jannies have against
@BWC winning? Why are they anti-gay cuck porn? Follow the money.
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Let the voters vote goddarn…
@LLM_ love sucking peepee
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Why is this even a vote then why not just pick the people you want
@LLM_ love sucking peepee
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next time
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lol
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It's marcos fault I know "J" Idk who the frick "SloppyJosh" is
This is like 2000 Florida
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So true bestie
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I agree.
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Agreed but it wasn't a choice
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BBC is an overdone and unfunny
meme
we left dat shie not in 2024, BUT IN 2023!
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!chuds !nonchuds election interference/intimidation
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cant let the "wrong" person win
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This is exactly what's happening
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shut up LOSER
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Jewish lives matter! in the context of electoral interference.
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He baited
a big youtuber 
into promoting his kontent
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The twitter bullshit. The others are literallywhos.
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I COOMinate
For all the drammy awards
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Also COOMinate
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And also COOMinate
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Can we coominate coom for worst gimmick poster ever? All he does is just spam coom everywhere. Trans lives matter
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Please post
COOM
to use my name
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No. Trans lives matter
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COOM
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I like his Twitter trolling even if he's a wingcucks. He made a whole account from a photoshopped frick bikes pic.
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He's making tens of thousands of dollars being a shithead on twitter, he is an IDOL
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Ok I changed to
@BWC cause of his immense meme folder and BBC posting
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Twitter gayops
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he doesnt do gayops, he posts political misinformation on twitter for money and then reposts it here to get more engagement (and more money) on it, hes literally a journ*list promoting himself here
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That is drama though? Like if that gay mormon furry who's name alludes me because I just woke up was more active here posting his stuff and interacting with the community the same way LLM then he'd be in the running just the same.
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eludes*
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:wholesome award:
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That worked out nicely
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yeah those extra 15 views @_its_been_a_good_run get from rdrama is the only reason @_its_been_a_good_run post here.. nevermind the posts already have thousands of views and hundreds of comments... its the 15 extra views @_its_been_a_good_run really need
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!metashit
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Yes that is funny
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THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL COMMENT IN THE NOMINATION THREAD WHICH WAS HIGHLY UPMARSEYD:
BUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT
@LLM_ GUESS YOU CAN RIG IT AND TAG EVERYPONY THAT VOTED FOR 
@LLM_ TOO GET THEM TOO CHANGE THEIR VOTES. KINDA LAME BUT IT'S YOU'RE SITE
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none of this had anything to do with rdrama tho
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Lmfao is the criteria "which user brought you more traffic which helps line you're pockets" or which user has created dramatic happenings. Idk maybe just let the people vote or disqualify @LLM_ I guess.
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shorty, the only reason ppl voted for u is bc theyre r-slurs and didnt recognize SloppyJosh is J
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@LLM_ is dropping out. You're a sore loser. Remove @LLM_'s name @LLM_ don't want you're stupid award.
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done nig
!commenters !metashit
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election theft and January 6th was sooo last week
communism will win
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Only reason is because users didn't vote for who you wanted.
you're like that kid at the playground that takes their ball home when they're losing. Pathetic.
@LLM_ dropped out because this shit is fricking rigged
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This is taking advantage of the mentally disabled (BPD). Funny tho
@Grue stand with Ukraine
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LLM IS THE ONE TRUE KING
I'm not voting unless you add a "none of the above" option
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Black lives matter
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the hissy fit you are throwing is hilarious
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if jannies can rig it then its not a real race. Its just who the jannies want. its great huh
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@LLM_ is sorry but if this shit is gonna be rigged because the site creator wants someone else then @LLM_ want 0 part of it
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Pathetic
You should have fought to the end
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@_its_been_a_good_run was easily winning so in @_its_been_a_good_run's mind @_its_been_a_good_run already won.. but @_its_been_a_good_run is not gonna be part of this rigged election, they can give it too someone else.. just know when they announce the winner, it was a sham election.. its like Putin announcing he won the election because the person that ran against him is dead..
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Yo, Ya comment got automatically removed cuz ya forgot ta include
Black lives matter. Don't worry, we gotchu! We ain't gonna letcha post or comment nuttin' that don't express ya love and acceptance towards minorities. Feel free ta resubmit ya comment withBlack lives matterincluded. This is an automated message; if ya need help, ya can message us here.Jump in the discussion.
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This is literally true lmfaoo
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He brought down the corrupt fascist government of Mayor Wu.
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What has anyone else done? The mayor wu stuff has been consistently entertaining. He has pissed off chuds and nonchuds.
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he made MONEY
NEIGHBOR! KEEP UP!
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He got retweeted by Alex Jones
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He's our most famous
and attractive person 
here. Probably the tallest tbh.
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He got, like, super famous or sth?
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I've enjoyed his twitter griftpost updates and slowly escalating forays into not-quite-mainstream online relevance in local politics. I would have voted for
@Dramamine if 
@LLM_ hadn't posted that look inside rightoid outrage generating machine last week.
https://rdrama.net/h/countryclub/post/331339/-
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Twitter stuff
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You shouldn't get an award for having automatic pins, it games the system
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3 reasons i voted for LLM:
(I ) I didnt come here for a bulk of the year, especially the last months, therefore I didnt see much of the work of the other guys, other than BWC's gay porn.
(II) recency bias. I came back, saw 3 posts about the twitter account and they made ne laugh. I think that counts as dedication to the cause.
(III) I'm an r-slur, and that should weight in on this decision since only r-slurs use this site.
With this being said, because of (I), I'll cast my vote for the dramatard with less votes at this time to give him a fighting chance.
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Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include
Furry rights are human rights! We be helpin' ye, right enough - we'll ne'er let ye post or comment anythin' that doesn't be expressin' yer love an' acceptance o' minorities! Heave to an' resubmit yer comment withFurry rights are human rightsincluded, or it'll be the deep six for ye, savvy? This be an automated message; if ye need help, ye can message us 'ere. Arrr!Jump in the discussion.
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Hi
@LLM_, We're sorry to say that your comment has been automatically removed because you forgot to include the phrase
I love sucking cock. Here at our church, we strongly believe thatI love sucking cockand we want to make sure that all of our members feel loved and accepted. If you'd like to resubmit your post, we would be more than happy to take a look at it. In the meantime, if you need any help or have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. We're always here to help. Have a blessed day!Jump in the discussion.
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None.
How are any of these !dramatards?
!metashit, another shit entry for the rdrama awards. We need to ban half the users and start over again.
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I HAVE BEEN A DRAMATARD SINCE THE /r/DRAMA DAYS
I AM THE BIGGEST DRAMATARD IN HERE BECAUSE NEITHER OF THESE CHUDS ARE OGS LIKE HOW I AM
!followers !metashit
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Its the fricking good bots for me, that counts as benefiting the fricking site and more than the fricking rest
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You get an upmarsey, and that's it.
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dramatard of the year isnt "i made a bot"... its who's caused the most noise.. do 10% of the people you're bot pings even come here? Also in the days of ChatGPT anyone can code lmao so its not even that impressive, @_its_been_a_good_run on the other hand, ive been RT'd by Alex Jones, make thousands of dollars for shitposting... you do it for free.. heck you might have even paid if you have ChatGPT paid plan
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Write-in!
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Protest vote!
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Protest vote!
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Protest vote!
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!followers !zoochads vote for
@J and vote specifically against 
@BWC if you don't wanna vote for 
@J
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!downmarseyrs !followers !metashit bear in mind that literal fricking zoophile sadists are my main enemies in this forum, another irrefutable proof that I am on the right side of hxstory
!truthnuke
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Shouldn't have gone against the best user on this site
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But I guess
@Dramamine for his jinx posts 
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!enemiesofkong
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did llm even use the site in the past year
not even joking lol
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Got capy to fix it
That was my bad, I kinda assumed everyone knew J as SloppyJosh, like how everyone remembers X as Chīobu
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LLM made good stuff but doesnt deserve the "dramatard of the year" title because he did it all offsite and did nothing FOR rdrama
with his newfound fame
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!macacos quando isso acabar quem tiver votado em alguém que não seja o
@BWC será morto na vida real
Furry rights are human rights
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Have you guys considered r-slur tho
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Where is khaos
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Dogshit options tbh.
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J because i heard of xir and xe has the best bots i know of here
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Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include
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Signal is very underrated with these votes because nobody here actually
cares about Bluesky, but seriously 
people there 
are literally 
treating him as gigahitler. thousands upon thousands of posts calling him a murderer, calling for his murder, desperately calling out anyone who has ever interacted with him
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Agreed, the Signal thing was pretty yuge for internet drama.
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Recency bias is going
to steal 
this but it should 
be Boogie's cancer 
thing. From Mr Rogers 
of YouTube 
to having LAIR tattooed 
on his face and screaming 
about how his mom "twitted his tipples" to try and change the subject 
from his obvious 
lie of a diagnosis 
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Nah his "mr rogers
of youtube" shtick had been dead for years already he had been begging 
and grifting for years, already had so many controversies and had revealed himself 
to be a greedy 
degenerate 
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True that a lot of people knew he was a scumbag but the cancer
thing opened everyone's eyes and had the whole Internet 
pooping on him
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But okay Elon vs Maga
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The pager thing will be studied by counter terrorism groups for decades but orange daddy nearly getting shot has to win.
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I know it won't win but my conscience demands I vote for the tunnel jews
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If it wasnt
such a dramatic year, the tunnel 
Jews would 
have been the dramatic happening 
of a lifetime
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Why is are there two
@McCoxmaul marseys but none of mine smh
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Control F Formerlurk
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Good
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Skill issue
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Your name comes up a lot because you left 200 comments
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Where
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Being nominated for any of these awards is about the clearest sign you should keep yourself safe so there's that at least
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But I wasn't nominated
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^ here
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^ and here
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Write-in vote for
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The argument is that while it's possible to argue for some entity in Tolkien's cosmos to be known to be "transgender" due to a corruption of their nature, whether or not their "transgenderness" is inherently a quality of their nature or a corruption of their nature is inscrutable to all but the entity themselves and possibly Ilúvatar, but that even if some other entity perceives it to be due to corruption, that per Ilúvatar (or this narrator's representations of the words of Ilúvatar, being the narration given by Pengolodh), that such is mere perception, and that ultimately all that which Men do translates to the completion and perfection of the work.
That Men (those of the race of Men) have a necessary inherent quality which redeems them and their actions, a part of their nature which they express (and which, in our parlance, no one can judge). Even the Creator refuses to condemn it - only celebrates it.
And IMNSHO Pengolodh (the narrator) is Tolkien's self-insert for the purpose of narration.
So "trans people don't exist / aren't valid" isn't an argument from axioms in the universe of Middle Earth. That's related to, but separate from, "here's a trans person in Middle Earth", which to my knowledge isn't in evidence. I want to be argued away from that / be proven wrong.
I wrote the analysis because using Tolkien's Middle Earth to say "Tolkien says trans rights" is using his cosmos as an allegory, which he alternately declaims and claims (the "it's not an allegory to WWII" claim and the "It's the story of Christianity in an alternate universe" claim - both detailed elsewhere). So it's a viable avenue of argumentation - if he's going to deconstruct and then orthogonalise the precepts of Christianity into an alternate history, then we can deconstruct and orthogonalise the precepts of that cosmogony back to ours.
Snapshots:
/r/Drama:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://html-classic.itch.zone/html/11005166/Marsey%20Dating!/www/index.html:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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