Have chuds really always hated USAID so much? :marseyhmm:

[I have to make this edit because I overestimated you tards. ENGLISH MOTHERLOVERS. Do you speak it? This post is not about foreign aid in general, whether USAID is corrupt (probably is :marseyshrug:), etc. It is about chuds' attitude to the specific institution USAID over time.]

Above is the google searches for "usaid" over the last 5 years, so it goes all the way back to Trump's first term.

Here's the last month. Notice it has nothing to do with Trump's inauguration. It just suddenly fires up one day when the NPCs got their firmware update.

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I've seen chuds all over this place acting like they always knew USAID is corrupt and this has been common knowledge throughout society for a long time.

Here's a good example from @finbarfin: USAID, one of the more infamous money laundering arms of our sprawling government

Infamous? Like Charles Manson? Benedict Arnold? Idi Amin? That Borgia chick who poisoned people? I've never in my life heard someone describe a person as "infamous" because they just became hated by a fraction of the population in the last week.

But Redactor, we've always hated USAID! We've been railing against their corruption for so long.

This site's users are neurodivergent, highly political, mostly right-wing so surely it has come up. Well, let's look at the data. (I know that's what the DOGE boys would do.) It was mentioned in 58 posts, of which 7 are from more than a month ago. It was mentioned in 134 comments, 13 from more than a month ago. Most of these just mention it in passing. Quite a few are negative, but not in the way our current chud program says. Most of these are attacking the politicians who ordered USAID to do something, third world people for stealing, or pointing out the actually true fact that it's largely a corporate welfare program for farmers. I'm not finding anything about corruption in the agency itself.

Did anyone post any evidence that they actually gave a shit about the internal workings of USAID back then? There was one person. Just one person. Can you guess who it was? I'll give you some time to think this over.

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It was me! Little old Redactor. Not only did I care, I cared enough to read the entire fricking section of Project 2025 about it.

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And what was my opinion of it? It must be some woke soy libtard response. I probably cried on the shoulders of another guy in my polycule. You know me, the left-wing extremist.

I skimmed through Intelligence and USAID. It actually wasn't too scary. Most of it was just boilerplate "we should do things more efficiently" bullshit that could just as easily come from the Democrats. Their only new ideas were funneling aid money to missionaries in Africa and using aid to hurt Iran somehow.

Why did I choose those two sections? Why not health care, education, finance, other more important stuff? Because this was what I felt I was most qualified to evaluate.

I am the only one of you r-slurs who actually knew anything about your issue du jour before now. I even knew what was supposed to be Daddy's game plan for it. You can't deny it. I am the King of Chuds. It's time for you to crown me.

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I'm not finding anything about corruption in the agency itself

Anything that gives any tax dollars to libtards is corruption r-slur. They were censoring the Internet. Flooding the country with Haitians. Instigating revolution in Ukraine. Funding campaigns of pro-crime Soros prosecutors. They're basically the Jews of the 21st century.

Again they were taking my money and using it to start wars, promote replacement migration and violent crime, :marseytrain2:ing kids, hosting "kill whitey" seminars, and silencing anyone who talked about this.

!project2025 I may have heard about them last week but I hate them so much :#marseyraging: :#marseymagahat: :#elonsalute:

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Anything that gives any tax dollars to libtards is corruption

Fortunately I know enough of the English (Massive Cute twink) language to parse this. You're saying you can't bear to live in the same society as "libtards" (70% of the population). Maybe you should move to Russia? They could give you a Chud Autonomous Oblast in Siberia.

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If they're 70% of the population then Trump wouldn't be president :#marseysmughips:

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Anything that gives any tax dollars to libtards is corruption

this but unironically

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I really cant tell if redactor is trolling or having a gen x or redditor moment and labeling anyone with concerns as "chuds". rdrama's most "center-left"/"centrist" redditors keep falling into the :normielarp: behavior when it comes to the political establishment being exposed as a corrupt clique that think they're better than you by virtue of being born in their socioeconomic class. Sometimes I wonder if some people on here are in that class and are projecting. :marseyprojection:

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He's bragging that he knew about USAID first. That comment I quoted was making fun of chuds for not knowing it was corrupt before now. But I wanted to chud post. So I quoted out of context and responded to it. I liked my chud post so much that I pinned it. !friendsofredactor0 discuss

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He could've written an article about it like Tracing Woodgrains does. :marseyindignant:

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Red, it's not even chuds. Americans have continually overestimated how much money goes into USAID. I've read plenty of surveys where they think it's like 10% to 20% of the federal budget. It's <1%. Trump is targeting this because it's been a hot issue for many people for decades, and it makes it seem like he's doing a lot for America by tamping down on it,, but it's mostly for show because it's such a small portion if the budget.

!chuds !nonchuds, :#marseytruthnuke:

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unironically true I've never really thought about USAID before, but at the same time I'm glad something so relatively insignificant and performative can make so many people who annoy me mad :marseyblush:

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"Uhm leave my billions of dollars of federal tax money laundry scheme alone."

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In school they really should teach kids things like whether $40 billion is a huge share of the budget. You could do it in math class. For this many billions you can get an aircraft carrier...

If there's a 1% chance that it saves us from another Iraq or Vietnam it's well worth it just from a financial point of view.

Also it's a really great filter for tards. Finding who really believes in "facts over feelings". Chuds, your atavistic caveman r-slur rage because somebody from the other tribe got food is a "feeling". You're supposed to be beyond that.

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New scam is discovered by intelligent billionare which was hidden from the general public by the elite geriatrics in the govt. People realize they are getting scammed and search for information regarding it.

you: THE NPCs got an update!!! :soysnoo:

!chuds laugh at this pathetic attempt to discredit

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>something is in news headlines

>people look it up

:#taymindblown:

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>something hits the news

>''hey, they were using your money to take atheism to nepal and transition teenage prisoners in congo''

>wow i dont like that

>BUT YOU WEREN'T AGAINST IT WHEN YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT HAPPENED HUH? CHECKMATE :soyqua#ck:

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>chuds been bitching about foreign aid

>for decades

>aid program turns out to be completely corrupt suprising literally no one

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The Obama era programs were literally exposed in 2017 and published by the oig on usaid's website and were actively being mitigated but of course musk and his zoomer cute twinks took down the site entirely so you can't see them anymore blue lives matter

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7 years is a very long time. I know it's easy to forget when your life is half over

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cutting wastage is bad when chuds do it :marseywingcuck:

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Irrelevant to what I'm talking about here: Corruption WITHIN USAID. Not the politicians who are funding it or the recipients.

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:#nerd:

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:#marseyfuckyou:

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That's a distinction unused in politics except when you're playing defence.

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intelligent billionare

Why are jeets pathologically incapable of not slurping on Musks dongle?


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it was sarcastic cute twink do you need a /s like redditeurs??

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:marseydunce: maybe


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nothing was hidden lmfao. The USAID OIG reports are literally published on the website blue lives matter

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A lot of time has passed since he started frying his brain with ketamine.

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I forgot about ping groups. You know we didn't have those in my day. :marseyboomer:

!metashit I'm trashing several users on this site here.

!oldstrags Do you remember the general population seething with hate against USAID back in boomer times?

!boozers You're just going to click on anything in front of your face anyway.

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you can just edit the fricking post, and it will still ping

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I stand with Israel, and they will stand within the fricking us @H ahahaha

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that... Aevann is the one programmer in the world who would even think of that.

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@Kongvann knows pinging is a human right. We had a whole rdrama diaspora over pinging as you know.

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I stand with Israel, and they will stand within the fricking us @H ahahaha

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Aevann how do I move threads out of rsp that don't belong in rsp


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I know this insulting me but I don't know how. :marseysquint:

Is it because RSP users don't know how the site works?

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I dont mind being pinged by random people, I'd rather be pinged then not pinged at all. At least it gives me an excuse to drink.

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Frick, 1 more beer and I'm off to buy more booze

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Literally everyone has been bitching and upset our tax dollars have been going to places we either didn't know or were bullshit but we never discussed the means it was being accomplished.

Now we actually have a papertrail and you're unironically going "Uhm leave my billion dollar federal tax laundry scheme alone."

You're the worst boomer. :#marseykys:

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This post is not about whether we should be giving out foreign aid you fricking mongo. It's about tards like you who all suddenly discovered on the same day that this particular organization, one you didn't even know existed, is who to blame.

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Yes that's what my argument is addressing. I didn't even mention foreign aid. Places can be organizations in the US.

Learn 2 read neighbor and stop assuming cuz you only making an butt out of you. :#marseylaugh:

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Funny how everyone always knew our tax dollars were laundered for shit and never really knew how or where until now and we hate it, now that we know we get r-slurs like Redactor go UHM GOLLY GEE DID YOU ALWAYS HATE THE USAID? IM VERY INTELLIGENT :marseybrainlet:

!chuds Lets use this thread to discuss if rdrama shitlibs are actually r-slurred or le unironic bad faith posting as a coping mechanism for losing the popular vote?

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So you spent years hating foreign aid and you never even bothered to learn what agency it goes through? And now that you have, you assume they're the the problem? :marseyfacepalm:

You're as r-slurred as the kids blocking streets in England to stop global warming. You obviously don't really give a shit about these issues, you just want call someone a "libtard" because maybe then Rush Limbaugh will take you as a catamite.

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Never mentioned foreign aid, not even sure why that's your biggest hang up thinking that somehow defeats my point.

You're a giga r-slur defending federal money laundering

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I have always been critical of it and I know for a fact that a lot of chud pundits have railed against USAID for a long time--probably going back decades.

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I know you well enough to believe that. But for every one of you there's 1,000 chuds who suddenly started caring about it.

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:marseyshrug: The govt is a cancerous blob I send money to every year. I don't need to know which bits of the blob are named what to hate what its grown.

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That's because chuds wait tirelessly to wait on what dear leader suddenly decides warrants their new two minute hate.

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I mean, of course you're correct, that's how these things work, but it's valid to point it out. :marseywave2:

It doesn't mean individuals weren't aware or didn't have a general belief that USAid was bad, yes, most of the opinion of it is new. But I do think for a lot of chuds, it's the specifics they can now point to that confirms the 'Democrats woke DEI care more about foreigners than their own people' narrative they already had, and was in the same basket as 'Why are they letting all these illegal immigrants in?' They could point to effects, but this is a cause they can blame.

Checking it against site posters isn't anything though. As a drama site that's reactive, it would have had to be a subject that others were talking about first. And for example the quote example you use is @finbarfin posting an article from elsewhere, not their own words. It means very little that it wasn't brought up here because as you point out it wasn't being brought up anywhere else.

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I do think for a lot of chuds, it's the specifics they can now point to that confirms the 'Democrats woke DEI care more about foreigners than their own people' narrative they already had, and was in the same basket as 'Why are they letting all these illegal immigrants in?

Some of these are legitimate fears. I just wish that foreign aid was not caught up with this. One of its purposes is so they don't want to emigrate. This is way cheaper than more border patrols. And that they went after the people appropriating the funding on our end and the ones stealing on the third world end. I know for a fact that both of these groups are extremely corrupt. USAID between them? Could be as bad, but they sure as heck ain't worse.

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Are you r-slurred?

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I'm reading this comment on rDrama. You're double-r-slurred if you have to ask.

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I learned about it this week, but would have thought it was r-slurred ten years ago too. Giving other countries money for miscellania doesn't merit a distinct staffed department.

Heads of state should be involved any time we open the checkbook, with big numbers from us and significant concessions from them.

It's easy to say that USAID increases our influence when you can't demonstrate what we got for any given year of expenditures

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Foreign aid might be a better search term as that's what people would normally complain about rather than saying USAID

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Yeah, "why are fricking we giving money to other countries when things are so fricking fricked up here" has honestly been a fricking bipartisan sentiment for awhile.

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You hear it all over the world. Ask an Iranian if they're happy about all the billions of dollars that were wasted on Hezbollah. They were pissed off about that even back when Hezbollah was popular.

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Yeah, there's always been quite a few people who thought we were giving too much away. Our media is really bad at explaining things like what you can actually buy with $1 billion or even what the federal budget goes to. So naturally a lot of people are going to think it's more than a pittance. These are also exactly the same people who never heard USAID mentioned in their entire life.

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I mean $1 billion in spending could instead be used to give everyone a ~$3 tax cut. Do that 50 times or so and that's a nice bit of spare change. I think if you asked Americans if they would be fine axing all this shit in exchange for $150 bucks a year they'd take it.

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Yeah, I would too. But it's fricking bonkers to expect that the federal government isn't going to waste $20 million on one thing or another. It's like all the other crimes. Murder is always going to be with us. It'll never go away, but you can suppress it to the lowest level possible.

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We've accumulated a lot of nonsense $20m expenditures, and now we've decided it's time to finally clean it up.

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By sending in a bunch of zoomers? Are any of them even accountants?

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I'll take it

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I'm not gonna read all of this dumb shit, but if you think rightoids only started caring about their tax dollars being wasted on commie bullshit within the last week, I don't know what to tell you. They only discovered this one department recently, but it's not just USAID. It's the same argument that was said about H1B. Just because rightoids couldn't put their finger on the specific department or program doesn't mean they are oblivious to it.


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I'm not gonna read all of this dumb shit

Not gonna read your's then. :marseyshrug:

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*you'res


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That doesn't even make any sense at all. you'res And the spellchecker still flags it. :marseysmughipskorean:

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Are you a real person

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The possessive "yours" doesn't have an apostrophe, you dumb leaf.


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That's what it's supposed to be? Are you fricking kidding me? Makes no sense. Makes no sense at all. :marseydisagree:

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I understand I'm part of this post because I said something sort of quotable, but I'm not going to claim I had a problem with USAID before or was ever thinking about them. I think, like a lot of other people who lean to the right lately, I generally feel like the government is wasting all the massive amounts of money I pay them and Trump's scapegoating of this particular agency spoke to a generic feeling I was having anyway.

I don't really care about this department. Nothing they were or weren't doing was relevant to me anyway. If Trump goes after the IRS it will materially benefit me and a lot of other people in a huge way. I don't give a frick what else he does but if he fricks over the IRS I will be very happy with his performance. USAID, to me, is just a distraction.

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I understand I'm part of this post because I said something sort of quotable

This but unironically. I wasn't going after you, you were just the only one I could find in a reasonable amount of time because I replied to you.

I generally feel like the government is wasting all the massive amounts of money I pay them and Trump's scapegoating of this particular agency spoke to a generic feeling I was having anyway.

An honest chud for once. My problem is I've had so many politicians who were way more credible than Trump promise they were going to attack corruption and waste. Nothing happens. The tax code is an obvious one where it could be made way simpler and save everyone a lot of work and stress, but the company that makes TurboTax has congress by the balls. I'd take DOGE more seriously if it was looking at really important problems that are easy to solve like that.

I don't really care about this department. Nothing they were or weren't doing was relevant to me anyway.

The whole war thing is apparently pretty unpleasant. Tossing a couple bags of rice to some starving brown people is a heck of a lot cheaper than war. :marseyshrug:

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Idg the hype over the USAID thing, 99% of it boils down to either "omg, gov't agency run by annoying liberals funded things annoying liberals like" or deranged conspiracy nonsense. I mean, USAID always had a lot of scope creep, a little gibs, a little international backscratching, a little :marseyglow:.

But come on, freaking out over the US funding dumb shit? What is this, little :feraljakmaga:'s first day on Earth?

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There was a Senator Proxmire (D) back in the 1970s-1980s who did this kind of bullshit. He'd find some weird thing that a scientist was spending $100,000 of government money on. (I mean obviously his staff is doing this.) Then he'd find the worst possible way he could twist words to make it sound like bullshit. Like if some scientist was studying advanced glass technology, he would make that "The NSF spent $150,000 on studying how teen girls break their phones." It's very effective against low-end midwits.

I don't want them spending $20 million on drag queen story hour in Namibia or whatever. That's why we have elected officials and civil servants who do that for us. I only need to know if corruption is rampant in the agency and nobody is doing anything about it. I haven't seen Musk come up with any evidence of that anywhere. And I've seen a heck of a lot of evidence of him starting it.

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This happens a lot with science. All fricking research has been cut even on actually useful shit. Again it's not just the gov either since many corporate research companies partner with government agencies so all of that research has been stone walled. To actually get it done many gov researchers are working off the clock and using texting or IRC to communicate with the private labs to actually get this shit moving. Ofc chuds and lolberts will only see the twitter bait "ummmm $100,000 was spent on drag queen sociology" and think that's worth cutting 10s of millions in cancer or health research.

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Like if some scientist was studying advanced glass technology, he would make that "The NSF spent $150,000 on studying how teen girls break their phones."

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That's a completely different argument from your post. Good job!

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Please explain. :#tayhuh:

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Original complaint: none of you people knew to complain about USAid until you were told to! You NPCs!

This complaint: I want to know about the corruption but Musk is only saying it's there, not showing it to my satisfaction!

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What is this, little :feraljakmaga:'s first day on Earth?

A lot of Trump voters are first time voters, this probably is brand new to them lmao.

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Had never heard of it, if I had I would have

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the thing that started it was a developer publishing this website where he combined various databases and he connected USAID (and other gov) grants and made a graph connecting it to companies/non-profits (even multiple steps between charities). Previously you had to comb through slow gov website grant listings with vague names which no one ever does

it just happened to coincide with DOGE

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It sure would be nice if I didn't have to go to rDrama to find that out. Do you happen to have a link or a word I can search for?

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I think its this guy https://x.com/DataRepublican but it might be another one

I just remember some link going viral on Twitter right before Trump getting into office then everyone was posting screenshots of USAID grants. Might be connected to Elon idk

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Hating USAID has always been a leftoid thing

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I dunno if it came up in Confessions of an Economic Hitman but there's a strain of leftoids out there who think anything America ever does must have ulterior motives. And they'd be the kind of sperg to actually find which organization to blame.

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anything America ever does must have ulterior motives

If this isn't true it should be. America isn't a person and can't experience compersion.

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isn't that one of the reasons why foreign aid is important though? obviously it (theoretically) builds goodwill but it also usually comes with strings :marseyworldssmallestviolin: attached and you can threaten :marseygun: to pull it if the country :marseypalestineflag: does something :marseysmugface: you don't like

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it always bothered me that leftoids did that but trump has convinced the right to steal everything i hate about the left and make it rightwing

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Russia is the one that I find mind-boggling. How do you hate a foreign country for a long time, it keeps doing the same shit you hate it for, and then suddenly you start loving it because of domestic politics?

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>you're an NPC

:#marseynpcmadtalking:

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Rush Limbaugh used to b-word about it 25 years ago, so yes?

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It was me! Little old Redactor.

The best part of being right is you get to be a gigantic flaming cute twink about it.

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That's right, honey.

:#marseyhomofascist:

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Ending all foreign aid has unironically long been high on my wish list

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Why?

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No. I've 180d so hard on all this shit in the past week. You just don't go after civil servants like this and try too propagandize too the press that we're all horrible people. So many of us are Veterans because our service is appreciated and every agency has at least some merit of caliber and worthiness too the tax payer (except the ATF). It's utterly unfathomable how Elon and the heritage foundation just decided too claim all of us civil servants are DEI hires who asked for :marseytrain: politics when 99% of the work force don't care about it and all are supposed too be politically neutral in work, are low productivity scam artists who waste money and don't contribute anything of value when there's tangible metrics everywhere of productivity and literal inspectors general who go after fraud, waste and abuse. The stuff about USAID was known about and actively being mitigated, trying too RIF everypony working while contracts were being ended is just moronically stupid and will lose almost all of the voting block support. Also Elon musk didn't frickjng discover anything not already known, it's published on USAID's website for fricks sake (before he took it down of course).

also the one thing you don't do is go after people's jobs. This entire thing has been a nightmare too live through and so mind numbingly ridiculous in how blatantly illegal, unconstitutional and just plain morally reprehensible

@HailVictory1776 is never voting for any dumbocraps or leftoids but @HailVictory1776 sure as frick is never voting for Trump related horse shit or any of his toadies again and @HailVictory1776 fricking hope musk goes too prison. Also he literally, blatantly lied about project 2025 because nearly all of the OPM memos sent too us had left the heritage foundation authors' names in them and were written months ago and predated too come out on the dates they did. That shit is fricking r-slurred as it is disgraceful and is neither conservative, nor libertarian but straight up autocratic

Dorm post any gay shit about voters remorse because literally no one thought any of this debacle was going too happen and roll out that it did except the scam artists behind it.

Jesus Christ it's like politics 101 too not attack you're base's jobs. Blue lives matter

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I don't get it :marseyconfused:

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blatantly lied about project 2025 because nearly all of the OPM memos sent too us had left the heritage foundation authors' names in them and were written months ago

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And nobody is ever going to hear about it because the Dems and their media are sure voters won't care about all the dishonesty. Maybe it's because they're totally locked into issues like abortion and gun control from the 1990s. But I think it's more that they're just so used to lying themselves, they can't even imagine why a normal person would be offended by it.

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Look how much of the news was dedicated too the fricking plane crash. This shit happened at the same time and was almost instantly turned into second page news blue lives matter

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Most probably dodnt even know ot existed. Average Americans dont know shit about most of what their government does, they just magically pretend to be experts when their side says something about it

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I probably cried on the shoulders of another guy in my polycule.

you should do that sometime, it's very cathartic.

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Too many words man

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:#marseyhesright: USAID is in fact one of the lesser known money laundering arms of the sprawling U.S. Government.

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Possibly. :marseyshrug: China drastically cut back the "Belt & Road Initiative" because a lot of the "investments" turned out to be Chinese trying to get their money out of the country to buy real estate in places like America.

I'd honestly be interested to know, but there's no way either side is going to tell me.

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