He's right, mostly. If you want to actually survive then you should have already trained in an actual military and in a combat MOS. They keep responding with "well Zelensky said..." yeah of course he's going to take any volunteers because the truth is there's a good chance of them losing Kyiv. And when they likely take Kyiv you won't be fighting DNR conscripts driving logistics vehicles. You'll most likely be fighting Russian infantry who are trained in urban warfare. If you surrender or get captured, Russia isn't known for treating enemy POWs well. Torture is common and summary executions aren't unknown since 2014. It isn't a coincidence that Russia travels with mobile cremation vehicles. A well-trained company can hold off a regiment of poorly trained attackers in a city. A poorly trained company gets surrounded and their bodies get disappeared.
Here are hot takes from COD heroes disagreeing with him and my highly intellectual commentary in response:
Would you tell that to the soldiers at the Alamo? General Washington give up your fight! Innocent Ukrainians are being slaughtered and you give cowardly advice to people that are willing to die for a justifiable cause. Stand your ground!
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After that, expect to die. People whoa re dead fight the hardest. If you couldn't handle your combat experience I am sorry.
lol wut
Don’t let anyone tell you what wars you can and can’t fight in.
yeah dad
"I'm an infantry veteran of fallujah and ramadi and I'm still questioning my qualifications"
Lol! This post is pure propaganda. The truth is in modern wars like this, you and your squad need to overwhelm the enemy with firepower and whoever makes the enemy squad retreats wins. It's a firepower battle, you just need to shoot in their direction while talking good cover. You won't he riding tanks, you won't he sniping enemies from a thousand meters. Now of course , you can still get hit, high possibility as there would intense firefights. You also need to be fit and have the courage/morale to fight. But to say that you need to be a decorated war veteran is false. Volunteers can do just as well or better than recruited army soldiers. Type on YouTube "Ukraine soldier guarding bridge has only fired 16 rounds in his life". Many here shoot more rounds than that on an average sunday afternoon.
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Doesn’t take much of a brain cell to fire a weapon at a opposing enemy that’s attempting to take your freedom. Tell that statement to the Scottish fighters with pitchforks against the Kingsmen, or the colonies farmers and their simple hunting muskets. 10 plus years prior, and private contract here.
Fricking liar.
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These people really think war is just like their bideo games, you just have to aim at the muskal and pull the trigger.
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Not to seriouspost on rdrama but there is real research by real scientists that says even trained soldiers struggle to actually shoot people. I cannot imagine a redditor being able to shoot an animal, let alone a person.
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Solution: add upmarseys and Reddit rewards for shooting Russians
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POV: The last thing you see on the battlefield before your vision fades to black and you hear in the distance, "Wow thanks for the gold kind Ukrainarino!"
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The cuck of Kiev
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Are you talking about the On Killing report about soldiers intentionally aiming to miss and requiring seventy gorjilion rounds shot per kill? Because that's all pop science bunk.
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Yeah I read all those books pretty sure it's deboonked.
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The real answer is that it's really fricking hard to move in gear, fire at enemies who are shooting back and taking cover, often at 400+ meters range. Go set up a basic course on a flat range and see how hard it is to quickly move and engage targets, now consider doing that while tired, wearing a pack and armor, without a really great idea of where the targets will be, and trying to not hit your own squad.
Regardless of reason, putting rounds downrange is the best way to score a hit, but just putting the rounds near the target is pretty difficult
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The real reason is the US military has JDAMs to do the killing and the bullets are just there to keep the terrorists pinned down. Also, the guy who wrote On Killing made up a bunch of his shit to push an agenda so none of it is valid.
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Grossman is a tard but the round count = victory stat has quite a bit of evidence to back it. It's just that the issues are no "soldiers don't want to shoot people" it's more that it's difficult to get effective rounds on target, and may require advanced technology, training, weapons systems, combined arms and a whole host of other factors that oftentimes have nothing to do with small arms and individual marksmanship (which is still a fundamental skill that everyone should have)
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round count = victory? Isn't this just saying the army with the bigger, more reliable supply chain wins? Everything else you wrote seems to be the same thing as what I said, infantry works with armored/aerial elements to eliminate targets. Obviously a rifleman needs to know how to fire his gun, but only high speed tacticool spec ops seem to actually get up close enough to reliably shoot other people, and the recent raid against the ISIS leader hiding out in Syria shows that they'd rather bomb a compound than go in if they don't have to. The only recent battle I can think of where soldiers went into pitched firefights was the second battle of Fallujah but I'm just a dumb civ so what the frick do I know.
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I can't wait for the day Americans have to fight someone who also has air support
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No air support = meat grinder
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Yeh, the vast majority of people are perfectly capable of shooting someone dead if it's required of them https://archive.ph/jxSBa
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Maybe if they trained as hard as the Iranians they could do get it done.
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Ww2 post war questionaires and surveys of soldiers
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Grossman is a hack, stick to non-serious posting
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Trust the science chud
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I’d think a redditor would sooner shoot a person than an animal.
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Tell the redditors that the Russians killed a pupper and they'll go full John Wick (epic pop culture reference 100)
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It's only logical if you believe humans have agency and animals don't. Lots of bad people to shoot out there if you really wanted to.
However, Redditors generally don't believe in human agency for anyone, except ytbois
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Are you kidding? If I knew I could slay slavs with no risk I would be all over it
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I'd struggle to shoot a person but I'd unload a magazine into a redditor without a second thought.
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Civil War muskets were often found with a shitload of balls stacked on top of each other because people would keep reloading and not firing.
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I read somewhere that it's because their drill didn't include discharging their rod in order to conserve ammunition - so when they were in the thick of it with explosions and lead all around, they regressed to muscle memory.
(And if I read it somewhere, it must be true.)
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I don't think I could pull a trigger on another european either.
The rest is alright.
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Rus aren't European, let alone human
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I don't know, I'd like to see an united europe one day. That's the only way to get rid of the mutt influence.
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Federating into a untied nation seems like copying the mutts tbh
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Mutts copied the French. They even copied the whole "genocide natives and ban their language" thing, rip Occitan
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If either wanted to exterminate the indigenes there wouldn’t be any at all lmao.
Also, Occitan
is just a hyped up dialect of French, not to mention still spoken.
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Good, it’ll be easier administratively to roll all them up into the United States of America and Europe
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united europe would just be ultralib & a wallstreet puppet, and any political party or movement espousing anything else would be banned or controlled opposition lol
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I think it would just be a technocrat entity like it is now, which is incredibly based. Frick the poor and the uneducated.
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That is an r-slured myth. It's from some stupid book, I forget which one, and it got really popular because people are idiots. It's built on the logic of "lots of ammunition is used but not a lot of people get hit". I hope I don't have to explain how stupid that is. Look at history. In combat, 99% of people absolutely will shoot to kill.
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Struggling to shoot people comes from empathy, so there would be no issue for redditors
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That was basically fake research, I'll see if I can find the deboonking
here we go https://archive.ph/jxSBa (no it's not a picture of busted butthole)
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i dont trust anything scientists say
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Like mentally/consciously or physically can’t?
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Everyone's naive and stupid when they're young and can't really comprehend that bad things do happen in life until they're old enough to have had a few bad things happen to them. Until then, they believe that they're gonna go to war and have an adventure and then come home and impress girls with their bravery. Feels boomerlike having such thoughts, but that's how it goes.
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I'm convinced most people don't really fear death until their brain fully develops.
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Since turning 25 I've become far more health and safety concious. Every once in a while I go "this is really dangerous if things go poorly", which is a thought I never had previously
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I’m only in my 30s and I take fricking fish oil. You definitely start having a concept of mortality after a certain point and a desire to respect it
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It kind of sucks. I miss the feeling.
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I'd bet a lot of these guys have very little real firearms experience and probably almost none of them are actually trained to handle firearms properly. Airsoft does not prepare you for actually using a military grade weapon while under fire. They'd probably have a panic attack and get ventilated from 5 different directions the second they got in an actual fight.
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They'll work perfectly well filling the logistics role of being sandbags
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Let's make it efficient, have them take the flight through Donetsk.
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Volunteers?
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Probably because getting yourself captured/killed by the Russians is more politically useful to Ukraine than any use you'd actually be to them alive.
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You think they would’ve known Zelensky’s a Nazi piece of shit when he didn’t give his pronouns when appealing to the UN for aid.
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Probably even better for them if foreign nationals are getting captured/killed.
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Sadly, yes. A clip circulating on the internet of a young American woman getting gangraped by Russian soldiers would have the Ukrainians cracking out the party hats and streamers.
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I hope all these couch-surfing r-slurs go. They'll either get killed or get forcibly grown-up REAL fast. The world would be a better place if all the drooling fat redditors making Thanos comparisons got beat into reality.
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Given the many air defense systems the Russians have, I don't understand how he keeps getting away with it.
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Or they'll single handedly win the war.
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This is up there with "near perfect attendance" for my favorite examples of things redditors think are resumé-worthy qualifications.
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It could be worse.
Good bait though lol.
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Some dumb ho from /r/BravoRealHousewives sub suggested Bethenny use the jets she chartered for aid be used to smuggle people into Ukraine. I frickin hate redditors but hate the dumbass bitches from that sub even more.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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If we could get all the housewives competing to see who could do the most to kill Russians, we might win this war. It's time for the countess to use her connections with European nobility.
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Send in Monique, she’ll frick some reds up
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He actually just signed up the other day. I choose to believe.
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I would imagine these are the same people who are too scared to travel during a GLOBAL PANDEMIC
So how are they going to get there?
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On a boat made of empty Germ-X bottles using KN-95 masks for sails
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SEMPER FI, REDDIT BROS, I'M OFF TO HECKIN' WAR: I have decided I can no longer sit idly by and watch the events unfolding in Ukraine!! As a non-binary, fully vaccinated, immunocompromised professional dog walker with no military experience, I believe I can be of great help to our Ukrainian friends!!
DON'T TRY TO TALK ME OUT OF IT. I've already booked my plane ticket, packed my masks, and kissed my chonker bean Mittens VIII farewell. There is plenty of lasagna in his foodbowl and I have asked my extremely elderly neighbour to check in on him periodically while I am away fighting the Great War. I should be back before Christmas if all goes well. Putler is on the ropes, and I am coming to deliver the final blow to his stupid Russian face.
Though I am severely immunocucked and burst into tears at the slightest provocation or micro-aggression thrown my way, I will NOT be a hinderance or liability to the proud people of Ukraine. I have many useful qualities. I can cook lasagna for the troops and look after the heckin' attack puppers when they're resting after a hard day's work. My anti-vax chud brother scoffed at me when I Zoom called him in full military fatigue (with my personal pronouns stitched onto the lapel) and informed him it was my patriotic duty as a Welsh person to go across the World and fight for Ukraine.
The fricking bastard begged me not to go and spewed pro-Putin propaganda (thankfully my big brain is impervious to propaganda of any kind) at me, telling lies about how I will just be used as a meat shield for the actual soldiers and that I'm itching to die and for shit to go nuclear after two years of "pissing the bed about a meme-virus". I ended the call, slamming the lid of my laptop shut, shattering the screen in the process.
Covid is still a massive concern for me despite being fully vaccinated and boosted, and I am fully aware that many Ukrainian folx are unvaccinated (it's not their fault, they just didn't have as many jabs to go around and they're not very bright people, I will educate them). Therefore, I will not be taking my mask off for the duration I am in Ukraine, and I will be passing around N95s like candy. Just because you're getting shot at by heckin' Russians doesn't mean you should leave yourself open and vulnerable to Covid microdroplets.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusCirclejerk/comments/t45p1c/semper_fi_reddit_bros_im_off_to_heckin_war_i_have/
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This is one of the worst posts I have EVER seen. Delete it.
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I'm sorry Garfeld I must got to Ukraine
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I remember when these same idiots wanted to go fight in Syria in 2012. I followed a few accounts who were very gung-ho about going, yet their Reddit usage remained unchanged in the following months.
The logical conclusion is that Syria has really good internet even during a civil war and that volunteer freedom fighters have plenty of free time to shitpost online.
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We need to send in real killers.
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Alec, no!
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But Baldwin kills Ukrainians!
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There was a guy, I'm trying to find his name again, who went over there and joined the YPG and took a lot of pictures and wrote some blog entries (including a pretty interesting one about encountering some unidentified "american special forces" who he assumed were really CIA). I don't think he died. I'll edit the post if I can find his content, it was a good read.
Edit: this guy. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/04/brace-belden-pisspiggranddad-syria-isis.html
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Pisspiggrandad or something like that right?
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Yeah that's the one.
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Ya. He was a chapo guy and they had him on once or twice. Its funny, i remember the cumtown sub was trying to downplay him like what he did wasnt brave sayinf he was only near the back or something.
Which dont believe is true. But even if it was im sorry going to fricking syria and chilling/helping a rebel as isis was wilding out absolutely is brave, and most people wouldnt have the balls to do that. Fricking edgy contrarians
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His podcast True Anon is the only non-p-dophile Jeffery Epstein based podcast and I highly recommend.
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There was a schizo (actual one) on Something Awful that went and I believe he was confirmed to be killed.
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Wasn't there a guy on 4chan who went to Afghanistan with his katana to kill bin Laden?
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Yeah. He went to Pakistan and was apprehended.
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What a way to go out, getting your butt shot off out in the desert for a country and cause you know next to nothing about. I have respect for people's balls for sure, but I just can't imagine playing mercenary being a good idea unless you're highly trained and highly paid, instead of being a directionless weirdo kid or a crazy person like the people we're talking about here.
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I think modern western existence is so abstract and devoid of meaning that shooting a rusty AK at who the frick knows in some shithole and probably getting blown to bits is preferable because it's at least a real thing
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This is a consequence of generations of MAD-enforced stability among the major powers. We don't even have the unity and competitive spirit that was sustained by the multipolar world of the cold war anymore. Everyone subconsciously pines for another world war that we will never have.
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The PKK is really good at public relations. They do these guided tours for war LARP tourists to shape public opinion in Europe and the US. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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One of the last interesting Vice pieces I saw was this series on some American vets, like actual Afghanistan/Iraq vets that went to fight in Syria then - and it was funny, because they just gave up and went home because they didn't realize what war was like without supply lines and the whole U.S. military behind them. Like, they basically ran out of bullets and went home. And they talked about how brave the Syrians were blah blah, but it was a really strange set of videos and article. Would grizzled Redditors rise to the occasion more effectively?
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That sub is either a huge larping sub or an intelligent Russian psyop to get dumbass americans to go die in a war. Either way, I'm subbed for the lulz.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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