For anyone with even a passing interest in anthropology, the 1947 Kon-Tiki expedition is one of the most famous moments in anthropological history and experimental archaeology. In 1947, Thor Heyerdahl and his comrades set sail on an authentic replica of a Polynesian raft named the Kon-Tiki from Peru to the Tuamotu Islands to prove his hypothesis that Easter Island was initially settled by an pre-Incan South American civilization from the east rather than the mainstream consensus of a Polynesian origin. After an incredible 101 day voyage, he and his crew made it to their destination. Thor wrote a book about his adventure and an Academy Award winning documentary film was produced, stoking the world's interest in experimental archaeology. For his contributions to science, Thor was hailed as a hero worldwide.
What people don't know is that the results of Kon-Tiki were extremely controversial and caused immense seething and gnashing of teeth among mainstream anthropologists. Despite his conclusive proof that it was indeed possible to sail across the Pacific and back using primitive technology, mainstream academics continued to categorically deny his American Origin Hypothesis all the way up to 2020, when DNA evidence was discovered that the inhabitants of Easter Island had some South American ancestry.
Thor Heyerdahl
Thor Heyerdahl (1914 - 2002) was a Norwegian polymath, soldier, sailor, explorer and scientist. He studied zoology and geography in university and held a fascination for Polynesian culture. Back then, not much was known about the origins of Easter Island and its people besides the writings of earlier colonists and explorers during the Age of Sail.
The discovery of the stone city of Nan Madol built in the 1100s, the megalithic stone statues of Easter Island (aka Rapa Nui) and other evidence of an ancient sophisticated Polynesian civilization stoked the public's imagination in the early 20th century. For context, some people believed that the South Pacific could have been colonized by a lost tribe of Israel :chadjew: (a popular but unscientific hypothesis for any impressive monument deemed too difficult for the natives to have built) while others had even more outlandish theories centered around lost continents in the South Pacific like Lemuria or Mu :marseyschizowall: . We now know that the origins of Polynesians are much older than Bible stories but it was the 1900s, so such theories were at least somewhat entertained.
Early in his career in 1937, Thor travelled to the island of Fatu Hiva in the South Pacific and lived among the locals doing important scientific work categorizing the flora and fauna of the island and interacting with natives. During his time there he developed his own theory of a possible link between the cultures of the South Pacific archipelago and South America through a race of seafaring stonemason mayoids he called the Tiki that stretched from Hawaii to Samoa to Easter Island.
Thor had previously studied the culture and history of Easter Island and became aware of indigenous legends claiming that the island had initially been inhabited by a race of taller, fair skinned people called the hanau epe that had arrived from a far away land until they came into conflict with newcomers from Polynesia and were exterminated in a brutal struggle. The natives claimed that this ancient race had invented the famous moai statues, gigantic multi-ton megalithic stone heads that dotted the landscape and had puzzled and fascinated western anthropologists since their discovery.
To Thor, it was clear that there had to be some connection between the stone monument building cultures of South America and the moai builders of Easter Island, but the immense 5000 mile distance between South America and Easter Island cast doubt on this hypothesis among mainstream anthropologists who believed primitive pre-Incan style rafts made of literal balsa wood (Fun Fact: Balsa means 'raft' in Spanish) were not capable of making such long distance oceanic voyages.
The Kon-Tiki Expedition
After his country was liberated from Nazi control in 1945, Thor Heyerdahl began planning the most significant example of experimental archaeology of the 20th century. He brought together a crew of experts, built a pre-Incan style raft named the Kon-Tiki made entirely from wood and bamboo and set sail from Callo Peru on April 28, 1947. The rest... is history.
I won't write anything about the voyage itself because it's already extensively documented. Go read Thor's book for more information or watch the documentary.
Anyways, the Kon-Tiki landed safely on Tuamotu and Thor conclusively proved it was actually not really that hard to sail across the Pacific with primitive technology and navigation.
What Thor Really Believed
Thor Heyerdahl was a proponent of not only South Pacific diffusion from South America but also Pre-Columbian contact between the Old World and America. He subscribed to a overarching theory of what is known today as Eurocentric-diffusionism, that some time in the distant past, an ancient race of intelligent Mayoid (Indo-European Aryan) speedrunners had sailed across the Earth building monuments and introducing technology to natives. For context, in the early 1900s, theories like this were entertained by the mainstream because the Mayoid race was searching for scientific reasons why they were so much better than everyone else.
Obviously, the Eurocentric-diffusion hypothesis was enthusiastically championed by Mayoid racists and denied by mainstream anthropologists and historians. As anthropology matured as a field, Eurocentric origin theories gained a stigma as Nazi pseudoscience.
Despite being the epitome of an Aryan Lad and literally being named Thor, Thor himself was not a Nazi, having fought against them as part of the Norwegian resistance during WW2. Thor was a humanist, egalitarian and basically a hippie that respected all cultures and actually took their silly oral traditions seriously. The beliefs he had about Indo-European diffusion came from connecting the dots from what was known at the time to be true. He never claimed that one race was superior to another or that only Mayoids were capable of building civilization. Thor was also more rigorous scientist than many in academia and his research is generally considered to be of high quality. Long after Kon-Tiki, Thor would update and revise his beliefs as new discoveries came to light but he continued to believe in what was then considered fringe theories like pre-Columbian contact.
Kon-Tiki Deboonked
When Thor returned to the west, he was congratulated by experts of the field for his incredible feat and bravery and was awarded honors around the world. However, his South American origin theory was rejected by the scientific community. The main reason was that there was already strong linguistic, cultural and genetic evidence that Polynesia was settled from the east. Thor did not deny this and stated that while Polynesians today are clearly from Austronesia, it does not invalidate the possibility of South American influence. Anthropologists refused to entertain this possibility though, and Thor's theories were labelled as fringe science at best and racist dogwhistles at worst.
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In fact, almost every paper written about Thor Heyerdahl has made sure to mention the purportedly racist origins of his theories and attacked the validity of his work, rejecting South American contact as a whole. Many academics emphasized that Thor was a self taught amateur incapable of science because he held fringe theories. In his 1998 autobiography, Thor recounted his struggle against academia and elitist attitudes towards outsider research.
From the initial genetic testing of Polynesians in 1997 showing no evidence of South American ancestry to 2020, Thor Heyerdahl's reputation suffered further as his anthropological work was characterized as backwards psedoscience from a racist era. His South American theory was lumped up with the likes of Lemuria, Atlantis and Mu and the language of his work was criticized for being cuturally chauvinistic despite being perfectly acceptable in the 1950s. Basically, people were picking apart his writing clutching pearls because he used now outdated terms like "primitive" and "mongoloid".
So What Happened in 2020?
In 2020, a genetic analysis of Polynesians and South Americans was published revealing that several eastern Polynesian populations had South American ancestors. The initial admixture between Native South Americans and Polynesians took place in the 1100s vindicating Thor Heyerdahl's hypothesis of South American contact and deboonking the previous 1998 deboonk which only tested the population of Tahiti. This was a groundbreaking and bussyblasting discovery in Polynesian anthropology and shed light many unexplained connections between South America and Polynesia such as the diffusion of potato and other crops.
Mainstream anthropology blown the frick out by actual science
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Redditor does not Trust The Science and continues to spout outdated information a year after DNA evidence was discovered:
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Obviously didn't read all of this, but I love Thor Heyerdahl. Today's academia is just populated by kitty butt post docs who complain all the time and need to publish or perish so they come up with "x is racist" papers. Only exception are the anthropologists scraping some cave in Africa for bones. (I actually love this shit). Thor was the real deal.
I'm not an anthropologist but I know there's a real debate going on right now about whether the entire field of cultural anthropology is racist. I hate academics so much. Michael Rockefeller died for this
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I like how Wikipedia hasn't updated this part of the Kon-Tiki article even though the next three paragraphs are about the 2020 DNA evidence proving them wrong
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Is it technically wrong, though? You need to give the bussyblasted "scientists" a few years to retire and they'll be replaced by the updated ones.
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We need to stop doing this though. Science advances so slowly because every time somebody comes up with a better model of reality, instead of the moronic scientists in charge admitting "OK, we fricked up, let's switch to the better model" we have to wait for these dopes to die out so that the new model can replace it. All scientific progress is basically held up for 20 years because some stupid old fricks are too arrogant to admit that they were wrong. Their egos are literally causing millions of unnecessary deaths because their inability to admit fault slows down scientific progress so much. The way I see it, these people are genocidal monsters, willing to sacrifice millions of lives to their own narcissism, and the fact that the government doesn't have any sort of non-politicized metric to determine what science is real and which is politicized crap is deeply frightening.
I mean, just look what happened during the Covid pandemic when science got politicized. Millions of people died... again. Not that it should be in any way surprising, our moronic leaders always end up killing millions of people whenever they try to push politics into science and make every single thing about serving their narrative.
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Peer review got gimped by the expansion of higher education in westoid countries. Even a completely mediocre man can, if he works hard enough become an academic and that really isn't the way it should be because those of mediocre intellect do not possess any ability to actually weigh two contrary ideas. They go with what is popular. This is why soc science has been r*ped hardest, cause there's essentially no objectivity there so women and male feminists just took over and turned their feelings into facts. There was this one essay where a famous foid historian who claimed caste was a social construct here coped with new DNA evidence completely contradicting every single r-slurred idea of her's and she just rehashed all the deboonked shit she said in the past and didn't even address the actual points the DNA studies brought up once. Brought up scriptural instances for pairings between Brahmins and non Brahmin women when the study specifically stated that all Indo European DNA is in the Y DNA line, mtDNA is entirely indigenous.
Hard science is somewhat shielded for now. But it will fall too, as all the labcoat peepeesucking showed during memedemic. Never thought I'd witness an actual obscurantist movement in my lifetime lol.
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You sat down and wrote all this shit. You could have done so many other things with your life. What happened to your life that made you decide writing novels of bullshit on rdrama.net was the best option?
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This is exactly right. There's no penalty for doing shitty science or getting things wrong, so people without any critical thinking ability are overwhelming the field with their moronic hot takes and politicized bullshit.
This decline of science is not unavoidable. All we need is a strong political leader who's willing to set some objective measurable standards for science, so that this replication crisis nonsense stops happening. I'm willing to be that leader. I promise that if elected, any mediocre "scientist" who cherry picks data to suit their own political narrative or does crappy work that does not replicate will get my boot on their throat, and I will actively hurt them until they learn how to be more objective. Hurting shitty people whose actions are bad for society is a fundamental purpose of government that our politicians have forgotten in their rush to be "nice" and coddle fragile people's feelings, but I would actively bring that role back. Vote Sir PingsALot in 2028!
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look im gunna have 2 ask u 2 keep ur giant dumps in the potty not in my replys 😷😷😷
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Anthropology in general is made-up nonsense for white women who want to type endless sneedpapers based on review papers of review papers of secondary sources.
It's a shame, because anthropology should be about Chadvestigating human history by travelling to remote locations in dangerous areas, doing ayhuasca, and taking part in the ritual combat festivals of ancient cultures
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Max Plank is a well known physician. What is wrong with him?
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Physicist
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Thanks
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Yeah because IE came from India
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IE came from the steppes of the southern Volga and wuz riding horse carriages killing and raping weak soytards in Europe, ME and India.
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No idea what thats means but it sounds hyperboran af.
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What do you think? David reich is probably right tbh
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I had no idea of that theory of his. I thought consensus was persians came from suthern russia / ukraine. Anyway he strikes me as one of the few scholars with integrity
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very interesting (unironically)
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Even the academics are not immune from this shit-flinging.
You see. Empirical research with the use of theory is patriarchal and racist.; therefore, the results have been tainted. It's called "science."
Great post, OP. Have some sparkles and a pin.
For the cute twinks who didn't read:
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The entire field of anthropology is made up of shit flinger. Remember when those guys denied that a burned down village full of head of arrows was not the sign of war, and in fact that war didn't exist?
I despise rousseauist so much holy frick, I am literally seething.
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What a smug r-slur.
This was really great. It had everything I love—drama, history, seething, smug r-slurs, vindication. Would love to see more historical drama, great work!
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I still upmarseyd you a coin it looks like a really good effortpost.
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Social sciences being loaded to the brim with midwits that seethe at theories that discredit their preconceived beliefs and are constantly trying to slander and discredit actually intelligent people that put work into their research? Say it ain't so
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Beautiful effortpost.
Nothing annoys me more than when someone claims we need to shut down legitimate scientific inquiry because it might score points for racists. I could care less if somebody believes there was an ancient race of superhuman mayos or whatever as long as they're doing real science. How is this so fricking scary to anyone? Are they afraid that there is some secret of mayo supremacy that has to be hidden from the masses? I believe that the more we learn, the more evidence we'll have that racism is tarded. Really makes you why wokies don't share my confidence.
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They know deep down that an ancient race of aryan ubermensch is way more probable than they want to give it credit for.
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The real truth is that there exist two races of ubermenschen, the levantine farmer (jews, egyptians and roman) and the hyperboreans (south america, northern yurop, china, india). Those two races mixed into perfection in the best country in the world, France.
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have un upfranc petit dramapig
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demanding debate and logic is racist as frick you chud how dare you trans lives matter
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Same feels as this I saw today: Was the Great Scientist E. O. Wilson a Racist? NO!
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Oh goodie! If I want some rage fuel, I'll continue reading.
lol @ McLemore's credentials (Nursing Department, Uni. of CA, San Fran).
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most qualified /r/nursing user
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I imagine being on faculty at the UCSF Nursing Department is like being the smartest kid on the short bus. Like, yeah, you're at UCSF but you're still a nurse lol.
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literally all true btw
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They have the actual fricking raft he sailed on in a museum in Oslo that's full of all kinds of other cool as shit stuff about the rich history of seafaring in Norway. Norway is the best country in the EU by far (which is why they're only sort of in the EU and still maintain their own currency). If you look at a map of the coast of Scandinavia, Norway's rights to the coast hilariously wrap around the outside of Sweden and Finland making them contemporary ocean cucks.
Edit: Also, when I was in Oslo, at a museum gift shop, I got a coloring book for little kids where the cover depicts a happy family of vikings on vacation burning a town to the ground and chasing people through the streets and slaughtering them. The kids are taking part and look like they're having the time of their life and even the family dog is there with a little viking helmet on.
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Skål!
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Norway isnt in the EU they are in Schengen are you r-slurred. No one in the EU is forced to adapt the Euro like 70% of EU partners dont have it lol.
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I mean, yeah basically. I don't really know how the EU works, I just knew when I visited I didn't have to go through customs when going from Amsterdam to Norway but I did have to when going from Germany to Switzerland so my conclusion was "these guys are sort of in the EU and these other guys aren't".
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What? You dont have to go through customs when entering Switzerland from Germany someone fricked you over lol.
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I guess I don't remember for sure if we did in that direction, but we did on the way back to Germany for sure. We got all our shit searched by the border guards because they thought we had gone to Switzerland to buy drugs.
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this you?
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It was a gift. I was in a gift shop.
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Good post, anthropologycels deserve it
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quality, I give two derps up
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I liked the part in the book where he said that it was really important to stick to tried traditional methods when building the raft instead of trying to be clever and modern about it, for example they considered using steel cables instead of traditional hemp ropes or something like that to hold the raft together, and then during the journey unexpectedly discovered that as balsa soaked up water even the ropes started sort of sawing through it bit by bit, so if they used steel cables the raft would've fallen apart for sure.
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I really want to quit this place but I can’t because of posts like this!
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Great post.
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Unironically very interesting and very dramatic.
:#patmarseyspecial:
How do pat?
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Put pat at the end
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Thanks King
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Shouldn’t the potato thing have given it away long ago?
Great post. I actually kind of like this stuff.
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Scientists just assumed potatoes just floated there or that birds carried seeds there. Polynesia probably already had some potatoes before it had humans but there are cultivars that might have been introduced later too.
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But people couldn’t float there?
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Only the witches
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Great post, you put in amazing effort. Edit: I also cant believe some snobby institutions called him racist when he literally lived among the people.
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"he cant be racist he has black friends" really you went here wat even trans lives matter
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I truly hate the smug arrogant old boys club that is academia. It's in every field too. So much progress slowed and reputations ruined because people are unwilling to admit they know less than they think they do and accept new ideas.
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The earth is hollow, giants are real, pre-colonial 🏀s could shapeshift and raise the dead, orientals are from the future, albinos are psychic, mayoids are generically engineered, all slavs are vampires.
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So how did they move the Moai
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Thor's theory in his book Aku-Aku: The Secret of Easter Island was that they basically just walked them across the land like when you move a tall bookshelf by rocking it side to side one corner at a time.
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People ended up recreating this experiment and there is even more evidence that this is how it happened now
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Quality effortpost
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Does the Thor Heyerdahl book actually propose that white guys travelled through South America and on to the Polynesian islands? If so, where did he think they came from prior to their arrival in the western hemisphere? In other words, did Heyerdahl happen to luck upon the theory that a millennium ago people from South America were able to reach the Polynesian islands?
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I believe in his early career he posited that an Old World race had migrated to South America and built or influenced Tiwanaku and Incan civilization because pyramids and sun worship and shit. I don't think it was specifically white guys though, since his later life focused on Phoenician and Egyptian pre-Columbian contact theories. It sounds pretty crazy today, but we didn't have genetic testing until the 80s and carbon dating wasn't used for archaeology yet so there were a bunch of equally wacky theories given serious consideration back then.
I would say Heyerdahl did luck out a bit in the sense that he was the only one willing to test what others saw as impossible for no good reason. I believe anthropologists underestimated humanity's wanderlust and desire to sail off into the unknown for questionable motivations. I blame it on a lack of Vikings in academia.
The most valid criticism of his theories was his tendency to discount convergent evolution as a possibility. Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.
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To be fair, they already acknowledge that Polynesians were island hopping. Even before we knew that this could reach South America, that's pretty darn ballsy.
I think the irony is that the vaguely racist origin of this specific idea blinded them to its possibility when it's a logical and valid question to entertain when moving from current academia on Polynesian island-hopping to the next realistic hypothetical. Had it just been some uncontroversial exploring type who made the trip, it's likely the possibility would have been far more strongly considered among anthropologists.
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Can you imagine the nuclear seethe if this ever happens for Charles Murray?
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anthropology and archaeology are both fake sciences. if one discovery can change you're entire paradigm then everyone with a phd in you're industry should rope immediately unless they are trans because trans lives matter
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everyone always says they want a kawaii uwu catgirl waifu gf but nobody ever asks me if I ever wanted to be the kawaii uwu catgirl waifu gf
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That’s not how science works
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just imagine i wrote "test" instead of prove neighbor
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Ok bb
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!blackjackmb5000
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I fricking love this OP.
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HOLY SHIT AM I READING THIS RIGHT?
EITHER BOTH GROUPS JUST HAPPENED TO ARRIVE AT THESE REMOTE ISLANDS AT THE SAME TIME (BIGGEST COINCIDENCE IN HISTORY), OR;
THE ATLVANTIVNS WERE ALREADY THERE WHEN THE DARKIES ARRIVED
GEE I WONDER
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What do you think of Graham Hanpeepee?
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Slick post goddarn
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Didn’t read but it always owns when based and red pilled explorers and soldiers dab on academics trans lives matter
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Very good post. Write more like this if you get the chance! Stories of researchers going against the grain and being ultimately correct make for great drama. Bet you could write something fun about J. Harlen Bretz if you find him interesting. He proposed that the Channeled Scablands were created by cataclysmic floods, and geologists spent fifty years sneering at him for believing in such a silly notion (it sounded almost biblical! frickin' fundie), then they admitted he was right when he was 96yro.
Minor note on the DNA analysis: there's a lot of existing strange evidence about how the pre-Amerind American populations have weirdly Southeast Asian genotypes (despite almost certainly coming across the land bridge). Thor was definitely right about Easter Island being American-populated. The way people keep tying in other Polynesian–American gene flow looks weird to me, though, and untangling it sounds like a PIA. I can't even tell what racial superiority narrative they're arguing for.
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It's really funny every times the genetics demonstrate te "racists" were right. There was a significant amount of sneeding in india (regarding the truth of indo european conquest) and worldwide over that nazi archeologist that said indo europeans were a thing.
Fascinating read btw.
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Excellent post, but also this entire debate is of zero material consequence to anyone whatsoever and isn't worth serious efforts beyond basic curiosity
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Was that european dna though? Otherwise there’s no race drama here
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"The most politically incorrect cognitive position on almost every point of this kind is reliably closer too reality than its more socially-convenient and comforting alternatives."
trans lives matter
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Easter island is a territory of Chile…
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@carpathianflorist why isn't this pinned? do your job. (for free)
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Honestly doesnt prove anything. Prelatinx americans didn't have a seafaring culture. Its much more likely the polynesians reached south america and took people and crops back home with them.
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Anthropologists are the fricking worst, right up there with “human geographers”
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