Texas is honestly one of the shittiest looking states. If a ruralcel's only experince with a city was in Houston, Austin, and Dallas then it's completely understandable to hate cities
Austin suburbs are shit but collin county has pretty cohesive houses
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Pic related, it's every guy with a fat wife telling me how "free and great" moving to Dallas is (he has a 75 minute commute and pays $25k/year in property tax on his rotting 2009-contruction shitbox house)
Mansions have a connotation of wealth and class, and McMansions are primarily owned by the newly-minted middle-class who just buy a big house made out of stucco with cheap wiring and shitty materials that will look "nice" for about five years but then fall apart after that. Developers are pushing more and more houses that are all style and no substance, with limited style at that.
The point is to ridicule the recently-poor for their total lack of taste, but for redditors it's almost entirely sour grapes because (being hustle-bustlecels) they can't afford any house, much less a McMansion.
shitty materials that will look "nice" for about five years but then fall apart after that.
That's optimistic; I know a few people within the past <10 yrs who've bought new "high end" construction that immediately started falling apart. The upkeep on all of the roads and other infrastructure supporting these shitboxes will eventually be a huge tax burden too, if towns will even be able to afford their upkeep. All of this sprawl is going to turn into hellscapes inhabited by the poor
People think "newer" and "bigger" means "better" but it's really usually not the case. A lot of these newer builds have all the bells and whistles (and smart home stuff built in, which I am slightly jealous of) but they're built with the cheapest possible materials by developers who couldn't give a shit if it falls over in a strong breeze.
Makes me glad I was able to buy something brick from the early 70s. Sure it's got its issues (gotta get rid of these galvanized pipes) but it'll still be standing in 50 years, unlike most of these shitty new townhouses and faux-mixed-materials monstrosities I see popping up all over.
I think there are small developers that custom-build quality homes, but yeah I wouldn't touch new construction in the US with a 20 foot pole. Older buildings are a huge money sink unless the previous owners sunk their own money into renovations, but at least they look nice and aren't built with materials that fall apart if you touch them the wrong way.
You get what you pay for, as with all things. People with real money tend to do custom construction with an actual architect making the plans.
Luckily the previous owners of this house did a lot of updates, so it doesn't feel like living in a time machine to the early 70s. I'm still planning on doing some serious remodeling but I'll wait till we hit rock bottom recession and building materials (and labor) are cheaper. Should only be 2 or 3 years.
Luckily the previous owners of this house did a lot of updates, so it doesn't feel like living in a time machine to the early 70s. I'm still planning on doing some serious remodeling but I'll wait till we hit rock bottom recession and building materials (and labor) are cheaper. Should only be 2 or 3 years.
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They keep putting stucco in humid places and r-slurs keep buying it.
And a lot of them go for the most square footage per $ so they're huge bloated monstrosities built in the middle of nowhere and make poor usage of their huge footprint. A few of the top examples on that subreddit are pretty egregious like this abomination
we went through a big building spurt here and all these vinyl sided tinderbox neighborhoods become dodge charger wastelands in like 5 years when the warranties run out
This worries me because I feel rich when every appliance in my house is working properly, and I'm far enough into a career that I dont want to be a plumber or electrician anymore.
I use to hate McMansions but my friend bought one and TBH it's kind of great. There are so many rooms you can mess with. Need some guest bedrooms? Easy. Want a game room, man cave, library? You've got like 5 extra after that. Kitchen is massive and easy to move around in. They have a grill room they wheel their grill out of.
Basement is larger than my house, and I thought my house was a bit big for one person.
Only problem is how sturdy they are but they chose a good developer.
In practice most of the non-essential rooms end up unused for 90% of the time unless the owners have a few kids, in which case most of the non-essential rooms are equally unused unless the kids have friends over or the family makes some sort of weekly routine out of using the home theatre. The money put towards a grill room is much better spent on a property you can peepee around on or in a good location where you can actually walk to things, depending on your preferences. I'd pay premium for a massive kitchen though
My grandfather built up another floor to our house and extended its floorspace, before that 50% the area had been a garden, anticipating that all his children would move back in. Ofc that didn't happen and now even his grandchildren are moving out though he didn't live to see that. Now there's 4 people and 16 rooms there, more maids than our people in the bottom floor.
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I see these type of houses all the time in newly developed suburbs, where the 'backyards' are garages accessed from the alley behind them. I'm guessing it's to make people feel like they're living the white-picket fence dream when they can't afford it or want to live closer to the city.
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Early 1900s Terrace houses are like that, but at least with those you're only a few minutes from the city center. Living like sardines in the burbs is pointless. No space + a shitty commute it's the worst of both worlds
Those aren't even mcmansions. It's just a depressing suburb. The worst thing about developments like this is that they absolutely necessitate a car to escape the winding maze of streets.
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Nah british suifuel rowhouses will still be standing in 20 years
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It's cope. I used to do a variation of it when I was young and poor and car insurance was expensive. See a nice car and I'd tell myself it looked ugly or the wheels were too big or it was a garish colour and that only knobs would ever own it.
Just a way to carry on with their day without confronting their failure.
The repeated eaves look awful, especially with the part on the side that sticks out at a shallower angle. It'd look way better if it were symmetrical with one normal set of eaves. The part where they intersect at the top is a mess too.
That's a pretty normal-looking 2003 kitchen, how's it the top post of the year? Paint the walls, buy new appliances and replace the cabinet doors and you've got a modern kitchen.
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The floating countertop in the middle, ugly granite tops, and weird inlet arches are just bad. Why is there a random column going through the top of the cabinet?
The roof is a bit flat with how you can see snow on the mountains in back, but I like the multilayered material look and the view is nice. Maybe a window above the garage to break up the flat space a bit. I like the small lawns with the natural vegetation around.
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It's an offshoot of mcmansionhell.com, where a snarky mayo foid critiques bad suburban architecture.
It's funnier when she does it though, because she knows architectural terms and also doesn't use too many words. I wouldn't have such a positive view of Kate Wagner except I really love brutalist architecture, and she does too.
Um, who hurt you sweaty? If you don't like le heckin' bare concrete and hard edges that make buildings look like cheap dystopian sci fi film sets you're just an uneducated chud
Joining the pretentious circlejerk that is contemporary architecture's love for brutalism is a quintessential redditism. They want to be out of touch with normal people because it makes them feel special and sophisticated, and every time it's brought up you'll find some tool going 'Actually, I like brutalism because...' followed by unbearable babble.
I'll give it to you that you at least realise it's terrible and like it for that reason. Regardless, it's too late, I already portrayed you as the soyjak.
I didn't realize it was in vogue, though that makes sense. Both for pretension and probably nostalgia? Lots of brutalist stuff in 1984 and Blade Runner.
Yeah. It's not actually in vogue outside of the relatively small subculture of architecture. Unfortunately the people in this subculture pass their shibboleths down to each new generation of architects who go out in the world and lobby for more grey slabs that literally nobody else wants to look at, live in, or be around. What really pisses me off is when these fricks conspire to give these utter eyesore disposable turd buildings from the 50s protected status, something that happens over and over. It's like they're trying to frick over the public.
Did you see what that "Le Corbusier" - actual name Charles-Edouard Jeanneret, that pretentious c*nt - wanted to do with downtown Paris? This design was imitated in Drancy, which became a concentration camp for Jews during the occupation. This is the only time in history brutalism has been appropriate architectural choice.
He was Swiss-French too just like Rousseau. Can't be a coincidence.
That proposal was an architectural crime. Kind of like how the Pompidou is (except I secretly kind of love how absurd that building is, perfect for modern art).
And yeah, I only like brutalism in the correct context. I feel like architecture really needs to be contextual, to highlight what it is the building is for and where the building is. I kinda dig brutalist houses to look at, but I would never want to live in one. And if someone built one in my neighborhood I would be a little pissed off.
I like a lot of novelty stuff though (I've got a real thing for geodesic domes), just as long as it has a consistent vision and is doing something for a reason. It's why I don't like most McMansions, there's no thought put into it.
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Unfortunately the people in this subculture pass their shibboleths down to each new generation of architects who go out in the world and lobby for more grey slabs that literally nobody else wants to look at, live in, or be around.
This is what bothers me about brutalist architects. Like if you're making a shitty, pretentious film, play, book, artwork, whatever, that's fine, nobody has to look at it if they don't want to. But these buildings are something ordinary people live and work in, sometimes for their entire lives. It shouldn't be a controversial opinion that buildings should be designed in a way that the masses find attractive.
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Brutalism is based because it flaunts to the poors just how much you don't give a shit about them.
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Anybody who unironically likes brutalist architecture is not allowed to have opinions on architecture.
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If you have to ask why you are also not allowed to have opinions on architecture.
Good brutalist architecture isn't just a box. To my taste, it should be something huge and concrete that makes you feel like it actively hates you and wants you dead. Which I love, because I think that's exactly the vibe government buildings should give. There's an honesty about a building that houses people who hate you looking like it's a building that hates you.
Same goes for a good brutalist tenement. It shouldn't just be depressing, it should be visually oppressive. When you stand at the foot of the structure you should be able to easily imagine a sound-proofed room with no windows at its center where they torture children "for the good of mankind" like in the Le Guin story.
Anyway that's why I like it. I know the root of the name "brutalism" doesn't have to do with "brutality" but I really feel like the ideas are inexorably linked now. It should be awe inspiring in the way that a Godzilla would be awe inspiring.
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McMansions are called that precisely because they are not mansions
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It looks like Thursdays are their days they get to post pretty mansions. Most of them on other days are, like, Texas subdivisions
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I legit agree with most of the critiques. Newer Texas suburban architecture is fricking terrible.
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Texas is honestly one of the shittiest looking states. If a ruralcel's only experince with a city was in Houston, Austin, and Dallas then it's completely understandable to hate cities
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Honestly a few nukes would improve Houston
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Is Austin really that bad? I thought theyβre considered better than Houston and DFW in that regard?
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Austin suburbs are shit but collin county has pretty cohesive houses
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Pic related, it's every guy with a fat wife telling me how "free and great" moving to Dallas is (he has a 75 minute commute and pays $25k/year in property tax on his rotting 2009-contruction shitbox house)
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To me any big house is a mansion lmao
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Mansions have a connotation of wealth and class, and McMansions are primarily owned by the newly-minted middle-class who just buy a big house made out of stucco with cheap wiring and shitty materials that will look "nice" for about five years but then fall apart after that. Developers are pushing more and more houses that are all style and no substance, with limited style at that.
The point is to ridicule the recently-poor for their total lack of taste, but for redditors it's almost entirely sour grapes because (being hustle-bustlecels) they can't afford any house, much less a McMansion.
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That's optimistic; I know a few people within the past <10 yrs who've bought new "high end" construction that immediately started falling apart. The upkeep on all of the roads and other infrastructure supporting these shitboxes will eventually be a huge tax burden too, if towns will even be able to afford their upkeep. All of this sprawl is going to turn into hellscapes inhabited by the poor
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People think "newer" and "bigger" means "better" but it's really usually not the case. A lot of these newer builds have all the bells and whistles (and smart home stuff built in, which I am slightly jealous of) but they're built with the cheapest possible materials by developers who couldn't give a shit if it falls over in a strong breeze.
Makes me glad I was able to buy something brick from the early 70s. Sure it's got its issues (gotta get rid of these galvanized pipes) but it'll still be standing in 50 years, unlike most of these shitty new townhouses and faux-mixed-materials monstrosities I see popping up all over.
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I think there are small developers that custom-build quality homes, but yeah I wouldn't touch new construction in the US with a 20 foot pole. Older buildings are a huge money sink unless the previous owners sunk their own money into renovations, but at least they look nice and aren't built with materials that fall apart if you touch them the wrong way.
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You get what you pay for, as with all things. People with real money tend to do custom construction with an actual architect making the plans.
Luckily the previous owners of this house did a lot of updates, so it doesn't feel like living in a time machine to the early 70s. I'm still planning on doing some serious remodeling but I'll wait till we hit rock bottom recession and building materials (and labor) are cheaper. Should only be 2 or 3 years.
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based and responsiblelifestylepilled
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Some townhomes around me finally stopped doing stucco in swamp butt Houston. Those I would consider but otherwise no way. Glad I bought in spring 2020
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They keep putting stucco in humid places and r-slurs keep buying it.
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And a lot of them go for the most square footage per $ so they're huge bloated monstrosities built in the middle of nowhere and make poor usage of their huge footprint. A few of the top examples on that subreddit are pretty egregious like this abomination
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Imagine living in the Glowie terrarium
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It's a little cool that we've advanced tech to the point that balsawood shitboxes get features you saw in the Jetsons
Is it too much to ask the materials industry to emulate those cost savings?
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man, we're lucky most of the crap from the 70s has collapsed by now, that was a horrid decade
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we went through a big building spurt here and all these vinyl sided tinderbox neighborhoods become dodge charger wastelands in like 5 years when the warranties run out
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This worries me because I feel rich when every appliance in my house is working properly, and I'm far enough into a career that I dont want to be a plumber or electrician anymore.
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God, I know.
People should know their fricking place and stay within their class. Poors and former poors are so gross.
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What about new poors?
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storytellers and lolcows
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Former poors are significantly worse than actual poor people.
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I use to hate McMansions but my friend bought one and TBH it's kind of great. There are so many rooms you can mess with. Need some guest bedrooms? Easy. Want a game room, man cave, library? You've got like 5 extra after that. Kitchen is massive and easy to move around in. They have a grill room they wheel their grill out of.
Basement is larger than my house, and I thought my house was a bit big for one person.
Only problem is how sturdy they are but they chose a good developer.
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In practice most of the non-essential rooms end up unused for 90% of the time unless the owners have a few kids, in which case most of the non-essential rooms are equally unused unless the kids have friends over or the family makes some sort of weekly routine out of using the home theatre. The money put towards a grill room is much better spent on a property you can peepee around on or in a good location where you can actually walk to things, depending on your preferences. I'd pay premium for a massive kitchen though
t. grew up in mcmansions
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My grandfather built up another floor to our house and extended its floorspace, before that 50% the area had been a garden, anticipating that all his children would move back in. Ofc that didn't happen and now even his grandchildren are moving out though he didn't live to see that. Now there's 4 people and 16 rooms there, more maids than our people in the bottom floor.
A garden would have been so much better.
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Aww, your gardenlet gramps must have been shattered.
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Classic baron mistake, recreating commie housing conditions because family
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Mansionlets
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This title was written by someone who probably shares a bathroom with 4 strangers.
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Where's the backyard wtf. I thought texas was all ranches and shit
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T*xans are being rounded up so we can cluster strike them easier. The superior states will have their revenge.
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Based.
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βSuperior?β
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yes
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I see these type of houses all the time in newly developed suburbs, where the 'backyards' are garages accessed from the alley behind them. I'm guessing it's to make people feel like they're living the white-picket fence dream when they can't afford it or want to live closer to the city.
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Early 1900s Terrace houses are like that, but at least with those you're only a few minutes from the city center. Living like sardines in the burbs is pointless. No space + a shitty commute it's the worst of both worlds
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Developers squarefootmaxxing.
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Having garages accessed from alley on the back side of the house helps a lot with house aesthetics. A big garage in the front is garish
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for wtf do these "people" use the front door
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Many such cases!
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I would honestly not mind living there but then again I live in a small butt apartment with a roommate lol
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I'd rather get no privacy with all the comforts and convenience of the city than no privacy for 500k in the middle of the suburbs
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No Homeless = all that matters to me.
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At least the homeless aren't boring
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Working class neighborhood, disgusting
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Guttermaxxing
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Those aren't even mcmansions. It's just a depressing suburb. The worst thing about developments like this is that they absolutely necessitate a car to escape the winding maze of streets.
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still more room than british housing projects
and probably cheaper in the long run
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Nah british suifuel rowhouses will still be standing in 20 years
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I mean, at this point, just build an apartment.
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Are these not the same people who claim watering your grass is white supremacy? Do they have no consistency with their gay takes?
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I'm assuming this neighborhood has a communal walking trail, small playground, and possibly a swimming pool.
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This is the biggest apartment complex ive ever seen
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Do these autists hate complex shapes?
They also hate granite countertops and light brown cabinets.
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I mean it looks kinda odd to me? But it's not intolerably ugly
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Itβs absolutely hideous. First thing I would do is put a basketball hoop over the garage
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Gorgeous scenery, darn
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Redditors hate the outdoors.
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It's cope. I used to do a variation of it when I was young and poor and car insurance was expensive. See a nice car and I'd tell myself it looked ugly or the wheels were too big or it was a garish colour and that only knobs would ever own it.
Just a way to carry on with their day without confronting their failure.
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Itβs not cope though. I feel the same way as these based redditors calling out cheap and bad design.
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As if you never saw a more expensive car that made you drool
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The repeated eaves look awful, especially with the part on the side that sticks out at a shallower angle. It'd look way better if it were symmetrical with one normal set of eaves. The part where they intersect at the top is a mess too.
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Symmetry strags get the rope!
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That's a pretty normal-looking 2003 kitchen, how's it the top post of the year? Paint the walls, buy new appliances and replace the cabinet doors and you've got a modern kitchen.
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Those weird arches tho
Also the point is that it's not only a normal 2003 kitchen, it's like the distilled essence of the early 2000s kitchen vibe.
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The floating countertop in the middle, ugly granite tops, and weird inlet arches are just bad. Why is there a random column going through the top of the cabinet?
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Not a column, it's a vent for the range hood
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Definitely needs to be integrated better tbh what happened to just mounting the cupboards flush to the ceiling?
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Dude look at it from the front, itβs abysmal. If it wasnβt for the location you couldnβt pay me to live in that monstrosity.
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>it's abysmal!!
>couldnβt pay me to live in that monstrosity!!!!
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You're blind if you don't think that's an eyesore.
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The front is pretty ugly tbh.
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Dam this house would cost millions for the views alone
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is that 3 garages
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The roof is a bit flat with how you can see snow on the mountains in back, but I like the multilayered material look and the view is nice. Maybe a window above the garage to break up the flat space a bit. I like the small lawns with the natural vegetation around.
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I'm actually a big fan of the two gutters tasked with watering the driveway, most houses don't have any!
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Your three story suburban townhouse lacks architectural integrity and has many design flaws
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Yeah frick houses! Slips into my Ozark trail sleeping bag under the bridge
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It's an offshoot of mcmansionhell.com, where a snarky mayo foid critiques bad suburban architecture.
It's funnier when she does it though, because she knows architectural terms and also doesn't use too many words. I wouldn't have such a positive view of Kate Wagner except I really love brutalist architecture, and she does too.
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Does the concrete scare you or something?
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Um, who hurt you sweaty? If you don't like le heckin' bare concrete and hard edges that make buildings look like cheap dystopian sci fi film sets you're just an uneducated chud
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Why are you acting like it's a normal redditor opinion to like brutalism? Basically everyone hates it, except me and architecture mommy.
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Joining the pretentious circlejerk that is contemporary architecture's love for brutalism is a quintessential redditism. They want to be out of touch with normal people because it makes them feel special and sophisticated, and every time it's brought up you'll find some tool going 'Actually, I like brutalism because...' followed by unbearable babble.
I'll give it to you that you at least realise it's terrible and like it for that reason. Regardless, it's too late, I already portrayed you as the soyjak.
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I didn't realize it was in vogue, though that makes sense. Both for pretension and probably nostalgia? Lots of brutalist stuff in 1984 and Blade Runner.
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Yeah. It's not actually in vogue outside of the relatively small subculture of architecture. Unfortunately the people in this subculture pass their shibboleths down to each new generation of architects who go out in the world and lobby for more grey slabs that literally nobody else wants to look at, live in, or be around. What really pisses me off is when these fricks conspire to give these utter eyesore disposable turd buildings from the 50s protected status, something that happens over and over. It's like they're trying to frick over the public.
Did you see what that "Le Corbusier" - actual name Charles-Edouard Jeanneret, that pretentious c*nt - wanted to do with downtown Paris? This design was imitated in Drancy, which became a concentration camp for Jews during the occupation. This is the only time in history brutalism has been appropriate architectural choice.
He was Swiss-French too just like Rousseau. Can't be a coincidence.
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That proposal was an architectural crime. Kind of like how the Pompidou is (except I secretly kind of love how absurd that building is, perfect for modern art).
And yeah, I only like brutalism in the correct context. I feel like architecture really needs to be contextual, to highlight what it is the building is for and where the building is. I kinda dig brutalist houses to look at, but I would never want to live in one. And if someone built one in my neighborhood I would be a little pissed off.
I like a lot of novelty stuff though (I've got a real thing for geodesic domes), just as long as it has a consistent vision and is doing something for a reason. It's why I don't like most McMansions, there's no thought put into it.
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This is what bothers me about brutalist architects. Like if you're making a shitty, pretentious film, play, book, artwork, whatever, that's fine, nobody has to look at it if they don't want to. But these buildings are something ordinary people live and work in, sometimes for their entire lives. It shouldn't be a controversial opinion that buildings should be designed in a way that the masses find attractive.
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I like it because it feels uncomfortable to be around and i don't want people near me
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get a spiky fence and tiki poles, those are scary without being ugly
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Yeah but then you can't pretend you're just r-slurred
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Brutalism is based because it flaunts to the poors just how much you don't give a shit about them.
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And that's why it's good praxis.
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Because it is a normal Redditor opinion lmao. Talk shit about it and thereβs a greater chance of being piled than with people agreeing.
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The first one is International Style, not brutalist.
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It is?
Looks like standard brutalism to me
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yes
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IT SHOULD SCARE YOU
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Anybody who unironically likes brutalist architecture is not allowed to have opinions on architecture.
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Why?
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If you have to ask why you are also not allowed to have opinions on architecture.
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Why?
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Factcheck: [REDACTED].
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Brutalist architecture solved the architect problem so I can see why you'd be upset.
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These are cool (except for the first result), but isn't brutalist mostly rectangular government buildings and tenements? Just boring cement boxes.
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Good brutalist architecture isn't just a box. To my taste, it should be something huge and concrete that makes you feel like it actively hates you and wants you dead. Which I love, because I think that's exactly the vibe government buildings should give. There's an honesty about a building that houses people who hate you looking like it's a building that hates you.
Same goes for a good brutalist tenement. It shouldn't just be depressing, it should be visually oppressive. When you stand at the foot of the structure you should be able to easily imagine a sound-proofed room with no windows at its center where they torture children "for the good of mankind" like in the Le Guin story.
Anyway that's why I like it. I know the root of the name "brutalism" doesn't have to do with "brutality" but I really feel like the ideas are inexorably linked now. It should be awe inspiring in the way that a Godzilla would be awe inspiring.
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Boston city hall
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brutalist architecture was literally created to build cheap, afordable housing
even if you like the style, saying you like the architecture is disgusting
poor "people" should be mass killed
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https://rdrama.net/post/69472/til-that-there-is-a-subreddit/1952862?context=8#context
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