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This is the story of James Sligo Jameson (pictured below) who was a Scottish naturalist well known for being the first person to identify several species in birds found within the African continent. Though he is less known for his adventures in birding and more known for the time that he purchased a young slave in the African Congo so he could see her eaten by a tribe he came in contact with.
BACKSTORY
Cannibalism in Central Africa, particularly in the Congo region, was heavily reported on European explorers and missionaries long before the Jameson Affair. It was said that the flesh of young children was particularly enjoyed. During this time in the Congo, and slaves were often from members of other tribes who were not born into captivity but stolen and forced into slavery through raids. Children were seen as useless so made into some use by being eaten. Particularly well off chiefs of Congo tribes were also said to raise children just like animals for the sole purpose of being eaten. Doing this probably wasn't just for food but also a way for tribes to dominate their slaves and to flaunt wealth in some cases. Accounts of this happening were often sensationalized and exaggerated by explorers and missionaries which made many later explorers become interested in witnessing first hand these acts.
The white man of course also took advantage of this, slaves were given in exchange for ivory that was exported to Europe with knowledge that the slaves would be eaten. (Pictured below, whites taking advantage of African slaves in Africa) Slaves would also be rented from slavers for cheap as they would be eaten upon return.
The Jameson Affair
The Emin Pasha Relief Expedition took place aithin the Congo free state which though owned and exploited by the Beglians still had many Africans living outside of plantations and such. The expedition was led by Henry Morton Stanley to rescue Emin Pasha, the governor of Equatoria (a province of Ottoman-Egyptian Sudan), who was threatened by Mahdist forces. Deapite the stated mission it is likely that the expedition was carried out to further Survey and Expand Belgian colonization into Congolese lands. James Jameson joined expedition as he was interested in the continent of Africa and intended to catalogue and record what he saw there.
James Jameson was reportedly very interested in the practice of African cannibalism. During the expedition he travelled in some part with an infamous African slaver known as Tippu Tip. When stopped in a town known as Riba Riba With Tippu Tip (Modern day Lokandu In the D.R. Congo) he witnessed a traditional African dance celebration. Tippu Tip then told him that such festivities usually ended with a large cannibalistic banquet and that he has seen many happen in the Congo himself. James Jameson then sought information from local tribe leaders on whether or not what he had heard of African cannibalism was true. From the tribe leaders he learned that the practice was in fact common in the area and they along with Tippu Tip's men urged him to purchase a young slave and to give them over to one of the neighboring tribal villages if he actually wished to see for himself.
Following this advice James Jameson used six European made handkerchiefs and purchased a female slave from within the village whom he assessed to be around ten years old. (Pictured below, a drawing of a slave that James Jameson made himself.)
With some other members of his expedition party James Jameson further followed what the tribal leaders of Riba Riba and Tippu Tip told him to do. He approached a nearby village of native huts that was pointed out to him. As the locals came to greet him he supposedly had his translator who could converse with the native Congolese tell them:
"This is a present from the white man. He wants to see how you eat her"
James Jameson then watched as the native Congolese tied up the slave, slaughtered her, and butchered her into pieces to be prepared and eaten. He recorded the whole process even sketching what he saw. What he drew in my opinion is way too sensitive to be posted here but he draws the native Congolese like minstrel show characters with thick lips to give you an idea of how he views these people. His recount of the act is as follows:
I sent my boy for six handkerchiefs, thinking it was all a joke ..., but presently a man appeared, leading a young girl of about ten years old at the hand, and I then witnessed the most horribly sickening sight I am ever likely to see in my life. He plunged a knife quickly into her breast twice, and she fell on her face, turning over on her side. Three men then ran forward, and began to cut up the body of the girl; finally her head was cut off, and not a particle remained, each man taking his piece away down to the river to wash it. The most extraordinary thing was that the girl never uttered a sound, nor struggled, until she fell. Until the last moment, I could not believe that they were in earnest ... that it was anything save a ruse to get money out of me ...
After this event the expedition carried on and James Jameson identified several species of African birds some of which where then named after him.
Aftermath and controversy
The occurence of the Jameson affair did not escape the knowledge of those who partook in the expedition until after James Jameson's deathen when around 1888 Assad Farran who was James Jameson's interpreter for the native Congolese issued a sworn statement recalling his account of the purchase and subsequent killing and cannibalism. The account gained widespread popularity being published in News papers across England and America, with several other members of the expedition soon concurring with the statement though some of them contradictory. All agreed upon the fact that the incident began in the house of the tribal leaders at Riba Riba, that Tippu Tip was present and told James Jameson to do it, the age of the girl, and the price he paid for her. Accounts including James Jameson's differ on whether or not he had full knowledge of what was to happen, and all retellings of the story including James Jameson's are considered to having an unreliable narrator.
The distraught widow of James Jameson soon issued a statement herself, trying to uphold James Jameson's legacy with an apparent statement on the event issued by James Jameson on his deathbed.
According to this account James Jameson supposedly did not believe that cannibalism occured in the Congo at all and thought Tippu Tip was simply joking with him about it. He apparently also thought that Tippu Tips associates telling him to pay for a slave in cloth was also a joke, and he continued to believe it was all a farce up until the moment he handed over the girl and saw her killed and eaten.
Also don't know how else to bring it up but James Jameson was an heir to the Jameson Whiskey fortune and used some that money to fund his naturalist endeavors and this expedition in particular lol.
So, what is the truth?
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He has gone from the kids being boring, every being boring, taking them to the park being boring. Never coming in family holidays as they were boring to currently bring on a Β£10,000 skiing holiday with the kids and his mistress / girlfriend. She has no kids, 10 years younger etc.
I know it's great the kids get to go but what a transformation! From a man who had never picked them up from school or attended parents evening, he can now confidently take 3 kids to another country skiing. All range of abilities and ages.
Just miffed I didn't get this husband and I got the one who couldn't even do a family walk as it was also 'boring'.
How long does the Disney Dad effect last? Or is this what he could have always been and I accepted the minimum?
So the real story will be that he's gone from a depressing life and depressing wife to someone who makes him feel happy and alive and now finds the motivation to look after himself and his family. But let's see how mumsnet interprets the situation.
Yeah, or gets her sufficiently locked in through a shared mortgage or similar that she can't easily shed him.
Apparently he's now "in a better place" to spend time with them. It's a shame mums just have to parent from the start, isn't it - we can't wait to "be in the right place" when our oldest child is 9 and a lot easier to look after. These men make me sick. I am just hoping the children can see through it.
Currently dealing with a similar situation @ThisQuickPlumFinch so I sympathise. It won't last forever, and your kids will probably see it for what it really is at the same time as enjoying the adventure. Mine do.
To balance some of the man-bashing on this thread, I'm a woman who was married to a woman, who also did nothing around the house or by way of childcare in our marriage. After she had an affair and left me she suddenly became able to do school pick ups at 3pm and take random days off at no notice to cover child's sick days etc. Yes it's hurtful that they couldn't or wouldn't do these things whilst married to you, but it's better for the kids to have 2 involved parents and that's the only sensible way to think about it in my view. The alternative achieves nothing other than bitterness and resentment (which affects the kids)
based lesbians showing some empathy for men through the shared misfortune of having to date women
I agree with it being an act. He probably wants to look like a good dad in front of his partner, maybe she is helping out too.
He's showing off, she's playing house. It won't last.
funny that foids do to interpret everything they don't like as a social performance
I really enjoyed these holidays with my Dad. It wasn't a Disney Dad effect (how horrid - no one calls you a Disney Mum when you take your kids on a holiday). It sounds like your ExH is happier now (you were clearly not a good match for each other), that's great for him and the kids. You should just focus on you trying to be happy, rather than bitter that ExH is happier now, and a better parent on his own. It's sad for you, but no need to take it personally - you just weren't a good couple together. That's OK!
but not everyone ITT is an r-slur and some suggest that spending your whole life in some neurotic seethe about an ex is probably not a good use of energy
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Palmetto State Armory has a 45 ACP 1911 on sale for only $279. This is an insane deal! Link posted below pic.twitter.com/9Oaihv3C34
— Dr Death (@DrDeath1776) February 19, 2025
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OMG. Argentina President Javier Milei just gifted Elon Musk a chainsaw for DOGEπ€£ pic.twitter.com/CWZandGxik
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) February 20, 2025
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Btw if you don't know what kill Tony is it's that show you might have seen on YouTube shorts where this guy, Tony Hinchcliffe, who got in the news for a Puerto Rico joke at a trump rally or something banters with (usually bullies) comedians they bring on stage.
Like with Joe Rogan his fanbase has been split between ideology obsessed rightoids who love that he's a wingcuck now, leftoids who watch his show but feel the need to add a disclaimer by telling everyone how bad of a person he is whenever they can, and normies hopelessly caught in the middle.
His subreddit has not been handling it well:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Killtony/comments/1isn3ba/this_is_basically_the_jre_sub_now/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Killtony/comments/1isv2pw/the_doctor_was_maybe_5_min_on_a_3_hour_episode/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Killtony/comments/1ismjpx/i_remember_when_kill_tony_was_good_for_the_soul/
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Like it or not, generative AI is carving out its place in the world. And some Reddit users are definitely in the "don't like it" category. While some subreddits openly welcome AI-generated images, videos, and text, others have responded to the growing trend by banning most or all posts made with the technology.
To better understand the reasoning and obstacles associated with these bans, Ars Technica spoke with moderators of subreddits that totally or partially ban generative AI. Almost all these volunteers described moderating against generative AI as a time-consuming challenge they expect to get more difficult as time goes on. And most are hoping that Reddit will release a tool to help their efforts.
It's hard to know how much AI-generated content is actually on Reddit, and getting an estimate would be a large undertaking. Image library Freepik hasΒ analyzedΒ the use of AI-generated content on social media but leaves Reddit out of its research because "it would take loads of time to manually comb through thousands of threads within the platform," spokesperson Bella Valentini told me. For its part, Reddit doesn't publicly disclose how many Reddit posts involve generative AI use.
To be clear, we're not suggesting that Reddit has a large problem with generative AI use. By now, many subreddits seem to have agreed on their approach to AI-generated posts, and generative AI has not superseded the real, human voices that have made Reddit popular.
Still, mods largely agree that generative AI will likely get more popular on Reddit over the next few years, making generative AI modding increasingly important to both moderators and general users. Generative AI's rising popularity has also had implications for Reddit the company, which in 2024 started licensingΒ Reddit posts to train the large language modelsΒ (LLMs) powering generative AI.
(Note: All the moderators I spoke with for this story requested that I use their Reddit usernames instead of their real names due to privacy concerns.)
No generative AI allowed
When it comes to anti-generative AI rules, numerous subreddits have zero-tolerance policies, while others permit posts that use generative AI if it's combined with human elements or is executed very well. These rules task mods with identifying posts using generative AI and determining if they fit the criteria to be permitted on the subreddit.
Many subreddits have rules against posts made with generative AI because their mod teams or members consider such posts "low effort" or believe AI is counterintuitive to the subreddit's mission of providing real human expertise and creations.
"At a basic level, generative AI removes the human element from the Internet; if we allowed it, then it would undermine the very point of /r/AskHistorians, which is engagement with experts," the mods of /r/AskHistorians told me in a collective statement.
The subreddit's goal is to provide historical information, and its mods think generative AI could make information shared on the subreddit less accurate. "[Generative AI] is likely to hallucinate facts, generate non-existent references, or otherwise provide misleading content," the mods said. "Someone getting answers from an LLM can't respond to follow-ups because they aren't an expert. We have built a reputation as a reliable source of historical information, and the use of [generative AI], especially without oversight, puts that at risk."
Similarly, Halaku, a mod of /r/wheeloftime, told me that the subreddit's mods banned generative AI because "we focus on genuine discussion." Halaku believes AI content can't facilitate "organic, genuine discussion" and "can drown out actual artwork being done by actual artists."
The /r/lego subreddit banned AI-generated art because it caused confusion in online fan communities and retail stores selling Lego products, /r/lego mod Mescad said. "People would see AI-generated art that looked like Lego on [Instagram] or [Facebook] and then go into the store to ask to buy it," they explained. "We decided that our community's dedication to authentic Lego products doesn't include AI-generated art."
Not all of Reddit is against generative AI, of course.Β Subreddits dedicated to the technologyΒ exist, and some general subreddits permit the use of generative AI in some or all forms.
"When it comes to bans, I would rather focus on hate speech, Nazi salutes, and things that actually harm the subreddits," said 3rdusernameiveused, who moderates /r/consoom and /r/TeamBuilder25, which don't ban generative AI. "AI art does not do that... If I was going to ban [something] for 'moral' reasons, it probably won't be AI art."
"Overwhelmingly low-effort slop"
Some generative AI bans are reflective of concerns that people are not being properly compensated for the content they create, which is then fed into LLM training.
Mod Mathgeek007 told me that /r/DeadlockTheGame bans generative AI because its members consider it "a form of uncredited theft," adding:
You aren't allowed to sell/advertise the workers of others, and AI in a sense is using patterns derived from the work of others to create mockeries. I'd personally have less of an issue with it if the artists involved were credited and compensated---and there are some niche AI cowtools that do this.\
Other moderators simply think generative AI reduces the quality of a subreddit's content.
"It often just doesn't look good... the art can often look subpar," Mathgeek007 said.
Similarly, /r/videos bans most AI-generated content because, according to itsΒ announcement, the videos are "annoying" and "just bad video" 99 percent of the time. In an online interview, /r/videos mod Abrownn told me:
It's overwhelmingly low-effort slop thrown together simply for views/ad revenue. The creators rarely care enough to put real effort into post-generation [or] editing of the content [and] rarely have coherent narratives [in] the videos, etc. It seems like they just throw the generated content into a video, export it, and call it a day.\
An /r/fakemon mod told me, "I can't think of anything more low-effort in terms of art creation than just typing words and having it generated for you."
Some moderators say generative AI helps people spam unwanted content on a subreddit, including posts that are irrelevant to the subreddit and posts that attack users.
"[Generative AI] content is almost entirely posted for purely self promotional/monetary reasons, and we as mods on Reddit are constantly dealing with abusive users just spamming their content without regard for the rules," Abrownn said.
A moderator of the /r/wallpaper subreddit, which permits generative AI, disagrees. The mod told me that generative AI "provides new routes for novel content" in the subreddit and questioned concerns about generative AI stealing from human artists or offering lower-quality work, saying those problems aren't unique to generative AI:
Even in our community, we observe human-generated content that is subjectively low quality (poor camera/[P]hotoshopping skills, low-resolution source material, intentional "shitposting"). It can be argued that AI-generated content amplifies this behavior, but our experience (which we haven't quantified) is that the rate of such behavior (whether human-generated or AI-generated content) has not changed much within our own community.
But we're not a very active community---[about] 13 posts per day ... so it very well could be a "frog in boiling water" situation.
Generative AI "wastes our time"
Many mods are confident in their ability to effectively identify posts that use generative AI. A bigger problem is how much time it takes to identify these posts and remove them.
The /r/AskHistorians mods, for example, noted that all bans on the subreddit (including bans unrelated to AI) have "an appeals process," and "making these assessments and reviewing AI appeals means we're spending a considerable amount of time on something we didn't have to worry about a few years ago."
They added:
Frankly, the biggest challenge with [generative AI] usage is that it wastes our time. The time spent evaluating responses for AI use, responding to AI evangelists who try to flood our subreddit with inaccurate slop and then argue with us in modmail, [direct messages that message a subreddits' mod team], and discussing edge cases could better be spent on other subreddit projects, like our podcast, newsletter, and AMAs, ... providing feedback to users, or moderating input from users who intend to positively contribute to the community.\
Several other mods I spoke with agree. Mathgeek007, for example, named "fighting AI bros" as a common obstacle. And for /r/wheeloftime moderator Halaku, the biggest challenge in moderating against generative AI is "a generational one."
"Some of the current generation don't have a problem with it being AI because content is content, and [they think] we're being elitist by arguing otherwise, and they want to argue about it," they said.
A couple of mods noted that it's less time-consuming to moderate subreddits that ban generative AI than it is to moderate those that allow posts using generative AI, depending on the context.
"On subreddits where we allowed AI, I often take a bit longer time to actually go into each post where I feel like... it's been AI-generated to actually look at it and make a decision," explained N3DSdude, a mod of several subreddits with rules against generative AI, including /r/DeadlockTheGame.
MyarinTime, a moderator for /r/lewdgames, which allows generative AI images, highlighted the challenges of identifying human-prompted generative AI content versus AI-generated content prompted by a bot:
When the AI bomb started, most of those bots started using AI content to work around our filters. Most of those bots started showing some random AI render, so it looks like you're actually talking about a game when you're not. There's no way to know when those posts are legit games unless [you check] them one by one. I honestly believe it would be easier if we kick any post with [AI-]generated image... instead of checking if a button was pressed by a human or not.
Mods expect things to get worse
Most mods told me it's pretty easy for them to detect posts made with generative AI, pointing to the distinct tone and favored phrases of AI-generated text. A few said that AI-generated video is harder to spot but still detectable. But as generative AI gets more advanced, moderators are expecting their work to get harder.
In a joint statement, /r/dune mods Blue_Three and Herbalhippie said, "AI used to have a problem making hands---i.e., too many fingers, etc.---but as time goes on, this is less and less of an issue."
/r/videos' Abrownn also wonders how easy it will be to detect AI-generated Reddit content "as AI cowtools advance and content becomes more lifelike."
Mathgeek007 added:
AI is becoming tougher to spot and is being propagated at a larger rate. When AI style becomes normalized, it becomes tougher to fight. I expect generative AI to get significantly worse---until it becomes indistinguishable from ordinary art.\
Moderators currently use various methods to fight generative AI, but they're not perfect. /r/AskHistorians mods, for example, use "AI detectors, which are unreliable, problematic, and sometimes require paid subscriptions, as well as our own ability to detect AI through experience and expertise," while N3DSdude pointed to cowtools like Quid and GPTZero.
To manage current and future work around blocking generative AI, most of the mods I spoke with said they'd like Reddit to release a proprietary tool to help them.
"I've yet to see a reliable tool that can detect AI-generated video content," Aabrown said. "Even if we did have such a tool, we'd be putting hundreds of hours of content through the tool daily, which would get rather expensive rather quickly. And we're unpaid volunteer moderators, so we will be outgunned shortly when it comes to detecting this type of content at scale. We can only hope that Reddit will offer us a tool at some point in the near future that can help deal with this issue."
A Reddit spokesperson told me that the company is evaluating what such a tool could look like. But Reddit doesn't have a rule banning generative AI overall, and the spokesperson said the company doesn't want to release a tool that would hinder expression or creativity.\
For now, Reddit seems content to rely on moderators to remove AI-generated content when appropriate. Reddit's spokesperson added:
Our moderation approach helps ensure that content on Reddit is curated by real humans. Moderators are quick to remove content that doesn't follow community rules, including harmful or irrelevant AI-generated content---we don't see this changing in the near future.
Making a generative AI Reddit tool wouldn't be easy
Reddit is handling the evolving concerns around generative AI as it has handled other content issues, including by leveraging AI and machine learning cowtools. Reddit's spokesperson said that this includes testing cowtools that can identify AI-generated media, such as images of politicians.
But making a proprietary tool that allows moderators to detect AI-generated posts won't be easy, if it happens at all. The current cowtools for detecting generative AI are limited in their capabilities, and as generative AI advances, Reddit would need to provide cowtools that are more advanced than the AI-detecting cowtools that are currently available.
That would require a good deal of technical resources and would also likely present notable economic challenges for the social media platform, which onlyΒ became profitable last year. And as noted by /r/videos moderator Abrownn, cowtools for detecting AI-generated video still have a long way to go, making a Reddit-specific system especially challenging to create.
But even with a hypothetical Reddit tool, moderators would still have their work cut out for them. And because Reddit's popularity is largely due to its content from real humans, that work is important.
Since Reddit's inception, that has meant relying on moderators, which Reddit has said it intends to keep doing. As /r/dune modsΒ Blue_ThreeΒ and herbalhippie put it, it's in Reddit's "best interest that much/most content remains organic in nature." After all, Reddit's profitability has a lot to do with how much AI companies are willing to pay to access Reddit data. That value would likely decline if Reddit posts became largely AI-generated themselves.
But providing the technology to ensure that generative AI isn't abused on Reddit would be a large challege. For now, volunteer laborers will continue to bear the brunt of generative AI moderation.
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It's time to wake up America
https://old.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1ity7y2/last_night_trump_quietly_fired_all_the_head/
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Woman sues fertility clinic for implanting wrong embryo β forcing her to hand over baby five months after giving birth
A devastated Georgia woman is suing a fertility clinic for implanting the wrong embryo inside her, resulting in the baby being "ripped away" from her five months after she gave birth and bonded with the child.
Krystena Murray, from Savannah, underwent in vitro fertilization two years ago and only discovered the fertility clinic's "reckless" mistake after she delivered a healthy baby boy in December 2023.
Murray and her sperm donor are both white
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She said she "knew something was very wrong" when the child was born because she delivered a
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I am deleting them now because if they're being shadow banned and not eliciting a response then all it is is a media circus at the expense of the kids.
— π¦ππππΎπ β³ (@Grimezsz) February 20, 2025
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So I am a bit busy now with classes and sport so don't have enough time for shit posting sadly.
Woman does revenge for bussyfication of her son
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Russia organized a new terrorist attack against Ukrainian military personnel and for the third time used a suicide bomber who did not know that he was a suicide bomber.
β ΠΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡ ΠΠ°Π·Π°Π½ΡΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ (@den_kazansky) February 15, 2025
This time, they blew up a woman in Mykolaiv city, who approached a group of Ukrainian military personnel. She⦠pic.twitter.com/cZ2bWWCQDL
Of course pro khohol will start blaming Russia. Russian didn't do any of such actions since day one and now when Zelenskyy is not popular and people hate his bussyfication and been hurting those mobilisation recruiters. Those guys in the video ain't soldiers they are mobilisation recruiters and one thing Ukrainian hate is that they use military uniform while not being part of military.
Busification in Lviv. This is what Western 'partners' demand from Ukraine while repeating the mantra about freedom and democracy pic.twitter.com/rkTkMyokwM
β Marta Havryshko (@HavryshkoMarta) January 7, 2025
The woman also looks clearly in mid 50.
People legit hate them and now Zelenskyy is slowly pushing to forceful mobilisation of 18 year old.
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Zelenskyy is in such butt now that he tries to take revenge on Trump
So accepting Chinese in peace talks of ok but Americans wanting an end to war isn't?
β Coinboi (@Coinboi2) February 15, 2025
π¨π³ππΊπ¦ Ukrainian Foreign Minister Sybiha met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
β MAKS 24 πΊπ¦π (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) February 15, 2025
Sybiha invited him to Kyiv, and said "it's the right time for talks on a just and lasting peace in Ukraine, we need your support." pic.twitter.com/0tzzC7asJp
Also Europooria is mad that Trump wants to do peace talk only with Russia and without Europe and Ukraine b-words
I don't think Ukraine knows about this nor that they are ready. The US will put Ukraine and Europe in front of a deal they will make with putin.
β Fugaku_FellaπΊπ¦ π©πͺ πͺπΊ (@Fugaku0886) February 15, 2025
Yes and those disable physical and mental r-slurs now finally seeing their place
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But I want to know something from our democracy fighter @UraniumDonGER (that's what he call him self, genius thinks that democracy is an ideology like liberalism, conservatism or for frick sake feminism
But you can understand him he voted for this
Poland brought democracy to Germany? ππ π₯΄pic.twitter.com/2zWXKqI10Q
β Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) February 15, 2025
We are in interesting situation since Zelenskyy ignored election without jurisdiction power and Ukrainian parliament also did nothing like they could have told they let him stay as president and that would fixed everything. It will be one of main historical question in Ukrainian laws and political classes in 30 years. The problem is now that Zelenskyy doesn't have population support so he has zero excuses while he is lying like this now
βΌοΈπΊπ¦π΄ββ οΈUkrainians are completely against the elections and do not want to talk about them - Zelensky's clowning is already shocking the Ukrainians themselves π€¦ββ
β Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) February 15, 2025
βͺοΈZelensky himself is allegedly ready to hold elections, but claims that Ukrainians are afraid of holding electionsβ¦ pic.twitter.com/Ny2gT7Jv2u
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ΠΠ΅Π»Π΅Π½ΡΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ Π²Π²Π°ΠΆΠ°Ρ, ΡΠΎ ΡΠΊΡΠ°ΡΠ½ΡΡ Π½Π΅ Ρ ΠΎΡΡΡΡ Π²ΠΈΠ±ΠΎΡΡΠ², ΠΎΡΠΊΡΠ»ΡΠΊΠΈ ΠΏΡΠ°Π³Π½ΡΡΡ Π·Π±Π΅ΡΠ΅Π³ΡΠΈ ΡΠ΄Π½ΡΡΡΡ.
β 5 ΠΊΠ°Π½Π°Π» πΊπ¦ (@5channel) February 15, 2025
ΠΡΠ΅Π·ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Π½Ρ ΠΏΡΠ΄ ΡΠ°Ρ Π²ΠΈΡΡΡΠΏΡ Ρ Π΄ΡΡΠ³ΠΈΠΉ Π΄Π΅Π½Ρ ΠΊΠΎΠ½ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π½ΡΡΡ Ρ ΠΡΠ½Ρ Π΅Π½Ρ Π·Π°ΠΏΠ΅Π²Π½ΡΡ, ΡΠΎ ΠΏΠΈΡΠ°Π½Π½Ρ Π³Π΅ΡΡ Π½Π΅ Π² ΠΉΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΡΠ½ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅ΡΠ°Ρ , Π° Π² ΠΌΠ°ΠΉΠ±ΡΡΠ½ΡΠΎΠΌΡ Π΄Π΅ΡΠΆΠ°Π²ΠΈ. Π―ΠΊΡΠΎ ΠΆ Ρ ΡΠΎΡΡ Π½Π΅ Π·Π°Π΄ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ, ΡΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅ Π·ΠΌΡΠ½ΠΈΡΠΈ Π³ΡΠΎΠΌΠ°Π΄ΡΠ½ΡΡΠ²ΠΎ. pic.twitter.com/xWShvY88EO
You can see in comments that majority of Ukrainian want Zelenskyy out
Some bitching that he keeps sanctioning ex president
Π¦Π΅ ΠΆ ΠΌΠ°Π±ΡΡΡ ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π· ΡΠ΄Π½ΡΡΡΡ Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΈΠΏΡΡΡΠΈΠ»ΠΈ ΠΠΎΡΠΎΡΠ΅Π½ΠΊΠ° Π½Π° ΡΡ ΠΊΠΎΠ½ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π½ΡΡΡ, Π° Π½Π°ΡΠΎΠΌΡΡΡΡ Π²ΠΈΠΏΠΈΡΠ°Π»ΠΈ ΠΉΠΎΠΌΡ ΡΠ°Π½ΠΊΡΡΠΉ ΡΠ° Π±ΡΠ»Π΅ΡΡΠ² Π½Π° Π²ΡΠ΄Π²ΡΠ΄ΡΠ²Π°Π½Π½Ρ ΠΠΠ ?
β Headseller (@Ozyrskyi) February 15, 2025
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ΠΡ Π½Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡΡΡ ΠΆ ΠΡΠ»ΠΎΡΡΡΡ 2.0
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Is this the democracy you are fighting for that goes against every democratic principles ?
But back to main topic as you see Ukrainian now don't trust the gov so when they start busificate 18 year old and they start dying a lot of angry moms will go after Zelenskyy because a white waman today kinda has more balls than white men. That's why Zelenskyy is changing this law slowly to try to stealthy bring the law and hope not to enrage women. As I mentioned before, Trump administration when suggested this they didn't expected Zelenskyy to do it, they thought he realises in what butt he is and start co operating.
https://instagram.com/reel/DFnOkuNtovS/
But as I mentioned many times before at one point it will be time to get rid of Zelenskyy and now this starts to be very clear, he offers a thing to Trump, Trump says ok then he says "frick you Trump" and cancelling the deal. Then now he is saying he won't accept any deal Russia and US in Saudi makes tomorrow and without any invitation he is flying to Saudi
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1irkgfr/zelenskyy_ukraine_unaware_of_russiaus_talks_in/
Zelenskyy is unaware
Yet he promto booked his flight
Redditors are obviously happy that deal got cancelled because⦠they are r-slurs.
If US was winning in this deal no matter the outcomes that would been best deal that US could get. Yet Redditors that supposed to be majority burgers are not happy. Do USAID has some debit in their banking accounts ?
https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1irgt3n/german_chancellor_candidate_who_is_likely_to_win/
Here they jerking on some r-slur telling that Germany is not neutral and will stand with Ukraine until the end. Basically those genius pushing to support Ukraine even if U.S. stops, I mean it's great plan
If the goal is to lose Baltics, EU already gave shit tons to Ukraine and tech wise it's weaker than Ukraine, khohols have over 500 leopards tanks most EU patriot systems. EU can't pump any shells and if they try to solo this even EU will accelerate. There is good reason why all non Iranian educating guys living EU.
Redditors obviously got mad when Vance told there is no democracy in EU
This German r-slurs talks about supporting Ukraine and forcing to continue when most Germans want to end it just like most Ukrainian.
If this guy want he can send his kids and him self to hold bakhmut it will be lit but he shouldn't use we like absolute majority wants to play his delusional games.
Basically what's gonna happen is that Trump will negotiate a deal giving away everything, ask Ukraine to honor it, Ukraine will refuse, Trump will withdraw all aid and support (I think technically he already has) and then Russia and Ukraine continue fighting the war only now without US aid. The main question will be whether Trump also revokes all sanctions on Russia. Europe are the ones that have the most reason to want to go back to doing business with Russia, and America benefits more from keeping Russia out of the market so that America is Europe's main fuel supplier, but Trump's an amoral moron who'll happily cripple his entire country just to make slightly more money for his own personal wealth, so he's liable to do anything.
And Redditors still talking about morals, sending Ukrainian last mobilisation wave and their future beyond their free will do so good for future of Ukraine.
It's OVER, Zelenskyy accept a bad deal now or be offered a worse deal later but we all know now that the genius is not an idiot
And he will reject that deal and then the chapter of Zelenskyy must go will start.
So things on the front, Russian are in preparation stage so no much pushing while Ukrainian launched shit tons of counteroffensive gaining 10km last week and losing 60km while creating new pockets
And of course the trend of khohols receiving more bodies continues
So next chapter of khohols phase will be called Civil War
- Π― Π½Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΡΠΈΠ²Π΅ΡΡΡΠ²ΠΎΠ²Π°ΡΡ ΠΆΠ΅Π»Π°Π½ΠΈΠ΅ ΠΠ΅Π»Π΅Π½ΡΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΎΡΡΡΠΎΡΡΡ ΡΠ°ΡΡΡ Π½Π°ΡΠΈΠΎΠ½Π°Π»ΡΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΡΡΠ²Π΅ΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡΠ΅ΡΠ° Π£ΠΊΡΠ°ΠΈΠ½Ρ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ ΡΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½Π΅ΠΉΡΠΈΠΌ Π΄Π°Π²Π»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ΠΌ Π’ΡΠ°ΠΌΠΏΠ° ΠΈ ΠΡΡΠΈΠ½Π°.
β Arestovych (@arestovych) February 16, 2025
Π― Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ ΡΠ°Π΄ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ, ΡΡΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ Π½Π΅ Π΄Π°Π» Π½Π°Π²ΡΠ·Π°ΡΡ ΡΠ΅Π±Π΅ Π±ΡΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠ΄Π΅Π»ΠΊΡ ΠΏΠΎ ΡΠ΅Π΄ΠΊΠΎΠ·Π΅ΠΌΠ΅Π»ΡΠ½ΡΠΌ ΠΌΠ΅ΡΠ°Π»Π»Π°ΠΌ.
Π Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±ΡΠ΅ - Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡΠΈΡ, ΡΡΠΎ Β«..Π½ΠΈΡΠ΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΏΡΠΎ Π£ΠΊΡΠ°ΠΈΠ½Ρ Π±Π΅Π·β¦
- I cannot help but welcome Zelensky's desire to defend part of Ukraine's national sovereignty under the strongest pressure from Trump and Putin.
I'm even glad that he didn't let himself be forced into a quick deal on rare earth metals.
And in general, he says that "..nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine."
But I, like few others, understand that the level of his "competence" and the peculiarities of his mental structure led to the fact that national sovereignty was first lost ideologically, and then physically.
Where is the solution?
The same place as always:
- in admitting defeat, fixing losses, transferring relations from client to partnership and - all efforts to return the real national sovereignty of Ukraine.
I bet the homo that was drawing those pictures didn't expected such irony
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WASHINGTON β National Nuclear Security Administration officials on Friday attempted to notify some employees who had been let go the day before that they are now due to be reinstated β but they struggled to find them because they didn't have their new contact information.
In an email sent to employees at NNSA and obtained by NBC News, officials wrote, "The termination letters for some NNSA probationary employees are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel."
The individuals the letter refers to had been fired on Thursday and lost access to their federal government email accounts. NNSA, which is within the Department of Energy and oversees the nation's nuclear stockpile, cannot reach these employees directly and is now asking recipients of the email, "Please work with your supervisors to send this information (once you get it) to people's personal contact emails."
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Bonnie Blue, known for sleeping with 1,057 men in under 24 hours is reportedly pregnant pic.twitter.com/w1Pv3aSARp
— FearBuck (@FearedBuck) February 19, 2025
that poor kid
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@HailVictory1776 Hope you have enough savings and insurance for your treatments buddy
Tranneolibs weigh in
!project2029 will save us
a wild schizoid approaches
A reasonable neolib!?
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President Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order declaring that only the attorney general or the president, instead of federal regulators or bureaucrats, can speak for the U.S. when interpreting the meaning of laws carried out by the executive branch.
Oh wait nvm it's a nothingburger. Literally nobody in the thread read the first paragraph of the article. I hate Redditors.
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It is my dream to date and marry a rich daughter.