Just to get it out of the way, he probably was trying to tap that. This was recommended to a lot of people's feed so there are accusations of "not a real lawyer" flying around that I'm not going to bother posting.

OP:

We have a new undergrad intern (a young woman, perhaps 19 years old), and I thought I'd take her to lunch to welcome her and answer questions about the work. Simple, right? Apparently, taking a female intern out to lunch is now a high-risk situation requiring oversight.

When we got back, it was suggested in the future that I invited other attorneys and avoided going to lunch one-on-one with female interns.

Lesson learned, and in hindsight I get where the firm is coming from. I still think it's a bit of an overreaction, though. I've gotten mixed responses when I've told people this. I'm curious what the subreddit thinks

His darning follow up post where he admits to having something in common with her and actually talked to her.

[–]TurnDownTheRadioJerk[S] -47 points 3 days ago

So here's more: I'm a 24 year old first year and the school she's going to is the same school I went to for undergrad, and she even has some of the same professors I had. We got talking and I asked her to lunch. No, I don't assign her work, but we seem to get along. Yes, there are other interns, but I haven't really had to talk to them yet

Responses to the follow up:

That sounds a little better than I initially imagined, given your ages are pretty close and the power dynamics aren't super crazy off (I'm assuming you don't have much influence at your firm). But your follow-up also makes it sound more like you are in fact trying to hit on her (or at least become her friend), and your firm gave you good advice. You shouldn't be doing anything that looks like you might be looking for a romantic relationship with anyone subordinate to you

Yea OP is totally hitting on her he wouldnt have done this for a dude I'm guessing.

That is pure speculation on your part, is really hard to imagine forming connections and mentorship in a professional field without ulterior motives. It seems reasonable to plausible to me I have gone to lunch with both male and female colleagues.

Dude… that's a crush let's be real, and you were testing the waters.

There's nothing mentor-ly about this. You were trying to get to know her in a personal capacity 😭

Why did this get so downkongd?

Because the world of genuine courteous courtship has gone entirely to the wayside and in its stead is this hyper-sensitive environment. All of this whilst people complain that they can't meet others organically anymore.

He's a young man and shes a young woman. If he is courteous and respectful in his proceeding with her and he doesn't have power over her directly or otherwise in the firm, I don't see the issue. Statistically, the workplace used to be a great place to meet your spouse.

Young man and a younger** woman. She's a teenager AND an intern. He is an adult who can drink and her mentor at a law firm trying to isolate her. He can treat all the interns or a few more so they arent alone.

There is nothing improper, legally or ethically, about a 24 year old and a 19 year old dating

Got ourselves a over here.

Other Responses:

More context is needed. Are there more interns than just her? Are you working closely with her? If you were her direct supervisor or somebody formally assigning her work, and she was the only intern, I don't think it would necessarily be weird. If you were some random associate who just showed up and was like, "Yo, wanna grab lunch", and didn't invite any of the male interns in the same room, I could see how that might not have the best appearance

I think he left them out on purpose. He didn't want to look like a creep

Two comments in we have him being called a creep. Doesn't appear to be a lawyer and posts in a really odd mix of subreddits including /r/aupairs.

Barely a crumb of context which might be explanatory in itself.

Is this the only intern you've ever taken out? If so, why this sudden exception?

Is she the only intern? If not, why exactly did you choose her and her alone?

Do you work more closely with her than anyone else? Most attorneys work more closely with paralegals, so why her and not them?

[–]PoundTown68 -35 points 3 days ago

That's a lot of useless questions. In a sane world, two consenting adults can go to lunch without concern. Two consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want together if we're being honest. This is exactly why feminists should be ignored. We've allowed them to create a culture of fear, where everyone is tiptoes around unnecessary regulation that benefit nobody….except for 40 year old feminists, jealous that they're no longer sexually attractive, who want to force everyone else to be unhappy with them. Misery loves company.

Darn, found the incel

$100 this guy sexually harasses people on the daily

Yeah, I mean, look alive brother. Avoiding the appearance of a questionable situation is very easy if you have situational awareness.

Was it actually questionable? That's not the right question and doesn't matter (unless it got weird). Protect yourself and the firm. Heck, the vast majority of lunches I went to as an intern or otherwise young firm employee were with multiple people, now that I think about it.

This is crazy. Taking someone out to a business lunch in a public place is not out of bounds or even close.

Why was this intern chosen for a solo business lunch with an older male attorney? I'm not saying OP had any untoward intentions, but let's not pretend the optics don't raise valid concerns.

Also, though, based on the follow up, op definitely does have untoward intentions

The optics of it are not great. Put yourself in the shoes of a supervising partner. Perhaps his 28 years old associate has no bad intention when he asks the 19 year old intern to lunch. Perhaps the 28 year old intern has romantic intentions. Partner has no idea. Does the 19 year old intern know your intentions. Did you take any male interns to lunch. If there is no romantic intention perhaps bring along another associate (perhaps female) and more than one intern or staffer.

Yeah he has to think what the firm partners would think if this 30 year old associate took the 19 year old to lunch. It's a bad look when a 34 year old associate is doing that with an 18 year old intern. The 17 year old intern doesn't know she can decline the lunch invite from the 38 year old.

When I was a 19 year old college student, I invited a visiting professor to lunch to discuss their career. I thought thats what we were supposed to do "networking" and all, build a rapport. The lunch was 100% professional the entire time. No drinking. I paid for myself. All day time hours in public. Afterwards i was invited into the deans office and told that my behavior was inappropriate and unprofessional and that I needed to learn my place and not be so forward. When I was ultimately asked to leave the school (we aren't expelling you, we want to encourage you to go to a place better fitted for you) they cited my inappropriate relationships with visiting professors as one of the reasons.

It was humiliating.

15 years later that school got sued into the ground for 30 decades of sexual abuse against minors.

(am woman)

Talk about getting absolutely on.

I think they are trying to help you out.

I went to not-lunch with a support staff ... we were both new to the org, and she accused me of being a predator. And then coworkers hacked my email and spread it around the community. It was too late by the time we established that she was lying, for my email inbox was everywhere and the firm decided I had to leave before I could figure it out.

You need to be extraordinarily careful.

I found one of the few dissenting voices that wasn't downkongd into oblivion.

I strongly disagree with this take. Be professional about it. Make sure it's a public place, but refusing to take women to lunch in a professional environment is Mike Pence culture crap that prevents women from having the same opportunities as men.

IMO, a work culture that discourages men from meeting 1 on 1 with women is a massive red flag and usually the #1 sign that the employer has fostered an anti-woman environment.

There is a difference between "men and women can't have lunch together" and "attorney shouldn't take young intern of the opposite s*x to lunch alone". The power imbalance inherent in the latter certainly has a higher chance of producing a bad situation, from either direction (attorney actually taking advantage, or intern falsely claiming they did).

Keeping that sort of thing as a small group activity avoids all the possible issues.

Muh power imbalance.

You're a lawyer and don't understand professional conduct or ethics?

OP about to be disbarred.

Why is no one talking about the 19 year old intern's perspective. That's what matters here. And that's what the others at the firm are focused on, not the intentions of the OP.

Possibly the most incorrect response in the whole thread.

cheeky U2 pilot lol

Imagine hating on us when we're literally just minding our own business and browsing the web 🙃

— Firefox 🔥 (@firefox) January 28, 2025

Apparently Brave got a little cheeky in Google Playstore (I don't see this in Tim Apple's store) and Mozzila is coping hard.

Firef*x claps back after Brave browser's Play Store shenanigans

https://old.reddit.com/r/firef*x/comments/1ic4w56/i_guess_this_is_a_response_for_braves_forget_the/

Pretty lame response. "We are just minding our business and fading into obscurity". They should have use this opportunity to promote some benefit of using Firef*x over brave.

Why would they give their competitor free advertising

where is the competition? the true privacy browser is firef*x

*conditions apply. Please turn off data collection, sponsored links, non-privacy-preserving website advertising preferences, weather on New Tab page, pocket sponsored posts, default browser agent, Normandy, as well as suggestion improvements for search and web browsing. Be sure to not enable AI, and set default search engine to something that isn't Google.

**kindly please ignore that even if you turn off data collection, we will still relentlessly reach out to incoming.telemetry.mozzarella.org and location.services.mozzarella.com.

Firef*x really be doing anything but enable hdr support on YouTube.

I don't get the drooling love some people have for Brave. I personally don't think I would ever trust the browser for anything other than just another option when the ones I like don't work due to the history of crypto schemes and ad/affiliate link hijacking.

Same reason I doubt I will ever trust something made by Lenovo. They screwed up in such a bad way in the past with that whole root cert thing on their OEM images that even a decade+ on I still associate them with it and never consider their products as an option if I can find anything else to do the job.

It is essentially a cult. The crypto crowd loves to overhype stuff as they are used to do it in their pyramid schemes.

Some other people also believe brave to be some kind of anti woke browser. It's just ideology.

Firef*x is objectively the best browser in the world

in a newly-bought Macbook, install Firef*x and Chrome, then compare. despite having the M4 processor and generous amounts of unified memory, Chrome lags while Firef*x is buttery smooth

i feel sorry for people who's using Chrome, they don't even know they got used to terrible experience that they think it's normal. it's like not knowing what's above 60 Hz refresh rate or not having experienced OLED

Firef*x for everything. Safari if I want to stream 4K on Netflix. Chrome if my work will be primarily on Google Docs or Gmail. Brave if it's winter and I want to use my computer as a space heater

I use Firef*x on my computer and brave on my phone. I haven't noticed brave heating up my phone though. What's going on with Brave that everyone hates them so much?

personally, i don't like that you can't disable or hide the features that are bundled with the browser - vpn, crypto, and ai. as for the company behind Brave, i dislike their marketing because they have no business hating on other browsers if they're just a Chrome reskin themselves.

as for the heating part, well, that's my experience on Mac because it's so unoptimized. Chrome is slow as it is, but when you bundle it with other bloat, it takes a toll on your machine. there's also a long-running joke that Brave mines crypto, that's why it gets hot

Brave on my old M1 laptop literally has better battery life than Safari. You can turn all the shit off. Neighbor what world are Mozzilatards living in? Oh yeah, one where Furryfox has a 69% market share and they're not a fat slob in a boring butt IT job for some middling company.

Don't be a lameass Furryfox user, be brave! The browser that puts you first | Brave

!braveshills

New York literally just invented garbage cans

I'm sure it cost the city tens of billions of dollars to pilot this program.

Orange sight: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42918425

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and im dying of ligma

I was a senior in high school with this clown when the parkland shooting happened.

I distinctly remember he wasn’t even at school when it happened and he was too busy hanging out on CNN when we all went back.

He was a plant that sold his soul while me and my friends grieved. https://t.co/B4medtYBhE

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It was dumb when plastic straws were outlawed, it's dumb when they're brought back in Plastic Q-tips on the other hand...

As we see here, even a brand new thread posted a paltry three minutes ago and about the most /r/AskReddit topic imaginable already had HOLY COW seven hundred and ten upchuds.

Don't believe me? See for yourself!

https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/747854

I refreshed and it's dropped down to a still respectable 291 uphitlers. I guess there's a lot of diversity of opinion on this site even for relatively banal subjects like giant robots. How cool is that?

The next thread is another very hot topic, very relevant and powerful Alaskan congressperson Lisa Murkowski:

1200 upTNDs on that bad boy in just 14 minutes. This one even has a comment. Let's check it out and see what Motte-level intellectual discourse goes on here:

https://poal.co/s/Twitchy/747853

Poal.co user ERROR; RNG_USERNAME_VAR_NOT_FOUND offers some powerful insight into this with a not at all procedurally generated comment with very reasonable, intentional, deliberate and NOT random formatting to boot. No votes at all on that one yet, for some reason. Maybe the enormous userbase is all busy crafting lengthy polemics against or for his stance there.

The next newest thread is about Pompeo. Remember Pompeo? I don't besides the name, but several hundred Poal.co users remember him. Check these votes out.

Fluctuates like crazy every time I refresh. There seems to be an enormous but enormously healthy variety of pro- and anti-Pompeo sentiments there, going by how quickly the votes shift by several hundred. This thread even has TWO comments:

https://poal.co/s/Trump/747852

I don't know what they mean and I can't ask the users because there must be some bug from all the traffic preventing real users' real usernames from displaying.

Scrolling further down the bustling digital metropolis of poal.co, we see similar levels of activity, no matter the topic:

Pretty much all of their threads have many times our most upvoted posts' total votes. Even ones with no comments. It's inspiring and demoralizing in equal measure.

In closing I'd just like to remind everyone that you need to say nigger as much as possible to defeat the Jewish hydra.

Basically there is a group of people who are fans of a morrowind mod called tamriel rebuilt which adds the mainland of morrowind to the game and they're mad at supposed general modding corruption and at another mod called project tamriel which adds the rest of the elder scrolls mainland to morrowind. These mods share a common asset base and everyone involved is extremely neurodivergent

Now some fans are calling themselves a watchdog group and found a modder for fallout new vegas (another neurodivergent bethesda game) making a Mexico mod who is in America illegally. Obviously they did the natural thing and reported him to ICE

There's some other nonsense as well going on with the Mexico modders stealing assets and sending viruses to other modders and other stuff but idk

Now they're threatening to ICE the other morrowind modders

https://xcancel.com/TR_Watchdog/status/1884499507012067403#m

Big "drain the swamp!" type people and some xitter users are immediately pulling out the comparisons

Recovering with the cats. Shout outs to people who are doing important stuff today, unlike bums like myself

!animalposters !cats

Guys, we aren't even a month in. This is just the beginning.

We have a 2nd Amendment for this reason. This is the gun nuts wet dream but they're sitting on the sidelines cheering the destruction of the US Constitution.

>spend the past 100 years calling them gun nuts

>cry when they don't come to aid the Fed

Hecko!

Yesterday night, I decided to try and get some sweet xitter likes by doing the classic move of pissing people off.

For those who do not know, Technoblade was am extremely popular Minecraft youtuber, who used to be part of the DreamSMP.

also most importantly, he's dead.

Died of bone cancer in mid 2022. And every year since then he's friends have gotten together to use his death for charity. The most recent example being yesterday from other large Minecraft youtuber, and drama QUEEN TommyInnit

In response I threw a tweet out into the ether, making fun of them doing this.

I know nothing about these people.
But didn't this dude die like 5 years ago?
How many times are you going to dance around a corpse for money? pic.twitter.com/ncSjemPdw1

— gerg (@_gergYT) January 22, 2025

And while I did not get many likes or views on X.

I did quite well on REDDIT

https://old.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/1i7syde/umm_what/

3.2k upmarseys and the thread got Ya'lled.

(check thread for funny upset children, a lot got deleted by internet jannies, and Im too lazy to select a few)

Then just do a charity drive, at some point it's ridiculous. You think they are gonna be "raising money for Technoblade" 20 years later too?

It's beating a quite literally dead horse

— gerg (@_gergYT) January 22, 2025

Surprisingly a lot of people seem to know where I'm coming from but I just "worded it badly" (Worded it DRAMATICALLY more like it)

And a lot of other people have said they are unsubscribing from me due to my horrible PR.

I'm sure this has done irreversible damage to my reputation and I will never recover....

YEEZY DOES NOT HIRE FAT OR UGLY PEOPLE pic.twitter.com/HnmwiC0b66

— ye (@kanyewest) February 8, 2025

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It's almost like her and her husband pay for every accolade they've been given (2)

LOL if you actually think that, you've never listened to her music.There's a reason she was able to get amazing country artists on her album. (0)

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CC is a dissertation on the black roots of country/Americana music. You should be happy it won then… (1)

I said studying something and releasing what you think that genre is, doesn't make it an effective representation of that genre. So you claiming it's a "dissertation" doesn't mean anything. I'm not even sure what makes you say that. What elements of black country do you hear? When I listen, it sounds like a pop artists rendition of what they think country is…. Because that's what it literally is. It has more modern pop elements than it does country. (0)

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My bad, I didn't realize you would take that to mean those two elements alone are pop. That isn't what I meant.Well no duh. I didn't say take Beyoncé out. I mentioned Miley because Miley's vocals sound country. She has a drawl and grit. Not saying you have to have those particular elements but there are clearly vocal differences from a pop singer and a country singer. If Chris Stapleton, Morgan Wallen, or Lainey Wilson sang a song without a twangy guitar or overly hokey lyrics you will still recognize it as country. That was my point. If I took Beyoncé song with just Beyoncé and no twangy guitar or Miley Cyrus… it would just sound like one of her pop songs. I really don't want to harp you anymore but I can't just ignore this lol. Just as a twangy guitar doesn't make a song country I don't think corny country sounding lyrics make a song country. I don't think Lil Nas X singing about a a horse makes him a country singer lol. It's a great song and is fun. But, to me, it lacks any depth... (1)

beyoncé has more of a drawl than miley though, like her accent has always been very strong. and mentioning lil nas x in the same sentence as this is crazy lol. his was obviously putting on a costume whereas hers could literally be a dissertation about the roots of country music. obviously i'm not saying every single song on the record is country nor is she suddenly intentionally singing with a southern accent, but i think if you're gonna critique any song on the album for having "corny country" lyrics it shouldn't be this one. texas hold em is right there😭as far as the "costume" i just think that's disingenuous. nowhere has she said "hey everyone now i'm a country singer or country artist" but if she did, so what? genres shouldn't be gatekept. it limits innovation. modern country is borrowing SO many other elements of so many other genres but nobody gets mad about that. post malone is a rapper and people are saying he should've won over her, so why can't she win? she made a country ... (1)

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I mean there is definitely a vibe of her using country like a costume. Studying country aspects and incorporating it into an album doesn't make the album any better. No more than a country artist studying R&B and releasing some corny album with corny lyrics. Like "this ain't Texas, ain't no hold em"? Come on… and that was the most popular song on the album. Like what metric are we using to call this good? (1)

Chris Stapleton's biggest song is an interpolation of an R&B song you know shit about music. Don't you listen to different genres of music wtf is the big deal if anyone wants to make different genres of music (1)

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He went on and on about how there was nothing canada or mexico could do to prevent the tariffs and then he rolled over in less then 48 hours. And as a canadian im not gonna forget about this anytime soon. Ill keep buying canadian.

Lol, he straight up said that the tarrifs were contingent on whether canada/mexico met his demands regarding illegal immigration/human trafficking/fentnyl which they did. Him threatening tarrifs worked and him not having to implement them is a good thing for the economy. How embarrassing tho

edit: dumb with the same illiterate sentiments

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1ih85fc/did_trump_just_immediately_fold/