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Pete Hegseth kicked off his day in Germany training with the elite Green Berets of 1/10 SFG, one of the U.S. Armyβs most formidable Special Forces units.
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) February 11, 2025
Never seen a US Secrtary of defense do this before . pic.twitter.com/I6OMMSU7tx
They should be more fat and black like SECDEF Austin and go out of commission for a week without telling anyone because they can't take care of their body.
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No hezbollah in the government
https://old.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1ijsb1v/morgan_ortagus_us_envoy_live_from_lebanese/
Syrians hate hezbollah
https://old.reddit.com/r/Syria/comments/1ij3g1o/syrian_forces_clashed_with_hezbollah_members_on/
Lebanese cope that they suck and are about to be killed by Israel
https://old.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1igbqr2/strict_us_warnings_to_salam_and_threats_of/
Syria hates hezbollah
https://old.reddit.com/r/Syria/comments/1ijwq9h/syrian_military_buildup_in_hawik_on_the/
Wikipedia sucks
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1il1zci/lebanon_forms_first_government_since_2022/
"Frick the syrians! Long live palestinian"
-average braindead redditard muslim
Lebanon begs Trump for death
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a few months ago i briefly went a function at aella's house (nonsexual) and saw the "i'm sorry i told you you're not that pretty during a tender moment" card irl. for me it was like seeing the mona lisa but when i tried to explain to other people there no one understood pic.twitter.com/RW0kqqKuyQ
— cold π₯ (@coldhealing) September 23, 2024
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WANTED THE UPMARSEYS BEFORE Y'ALL REALIZED WILL EDIT WITH MORE INFO + DRAMA
This is what a burger would see before the app shutdown
Visiting TikTok in the US now leads to the following:
The ban relies on your tiktok account's region. Using a VPN won't do anything unless you're signed out.
Rising posts are a great place to find nice dramamines, it's currently full of ban screenshots but there's also gems like this:
https://old.reddit.com/r/rant/comments/1i4od06/the_fact_people_are_more_enraged_about_tik_tok/
VARIOUS DRAMAMINES:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Tiktokhelp/
https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/
https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Tiktokhelp/comments/1i4pk5g/how_to_get_around_the_ban/ (links to a groomercord that supposedly teaches how to "get around the ban", not joining cuz r4 but ik some of y'all are secret groomercordians)
https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i4nh5y/does_anyone_else_think_this_is_all_propaganda/
https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i4fjd6/just_my_thoughts/ (doesn't talk bad about reddit for some reason )
Apple has removed TikTok from the U.S. App Store βΌοΈ pic.twitter.com/YFpa2g1BJ6
β Apple Hub (@theapplehub) January 19, 2025
BREAKING: TikTok has officially shut down in the US pic.twitter.com/vbxbiMwyJq
β Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 19, 2025
π¨#BREAKING: TikTok has officially been banned and shut down in the United States.
β R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025
π#UnitedStates | #USA
Just moments ago, TikTok released a message to its users announcing that it has been officially banned and shut down in the United States. Upon opening the app, all 170+β¦ pic.twitter.com/IJliuF5IVb
TikTok has officially shut down in the U.S. pic.twitter.com/jbgayWYUFo
β Dexerto (@Dexerto) January 19, 2025
Nature is healing pic.twitter.com/OMNTbObkZr
β Wall Street Mav (@WallStreetMav) January 19, 2025
TikTok has officially been banned in the U.S.π³βΌοΈ pic.twitter.com/BsBfZJBHHa
β RapTV (@Rap) January 19, 2025
BRAND NEW UNTAPPED DRAMAMINES:
Breaking : CapCut has been shut down in the US TONIGHT after TikTok Banned pic.twitter.com/hNBg9jnKqU
β Raphousetv (RHTV) (@raphousetv2) January 19, 2025
TikTok has officially been removed from the App Store in the U.S.πΊπΈπ³π pic.twitter.com/fCK0inALrd
β Raphousetv (RHTV) (@raphousetv2) January 19, 2025
π¨#BREAKING: Here are the following apps shut down in the United States tonight:
β R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025
β’ TikTok
β’ CapCut
β’ Lemon8
β’ Gauth
β’ Hypic
β R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025(XITTER SPACE NEED TO BE LARGE ACCT TO SPEAK)
well tiktok is gone now ππ pic.twitter.com/5676UcpKAy
β πHOURLYπ shitpost (@hourly_shitpost) January 19, 2025
VARIOUS THINGS THAT I FOUND THAT I FIND FUNNY:
https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1i4ph8x/the_last_video_i_got_to_watch/
They finally soyjakked the America is Fascist for banning TikTok girl pic.twitter.com/XAMxcwrF9F
β Spinachbrah π₯ (@basedspinach) January 18, 2025
First Tik Tok now calculator appβ¦ this day canβt get any worse pic.twitter.com/MpURFLcOfA
β greg (@greg16676935420) January 19, 2025
MrBeast, Kai Cenat, and Soulja Boy failed to save TikTok. pic.twitter.com/d608wXy2wf
β DramaAlert (@DramaAlert) January 19, 2025
Unsurprisingly, all the bot nsfw tiktok subreddits are not talking about the ban.
!burgers !chuds !coomers !fartneighbors !g*mers !humans !pantspoopers !pinggrouplovers !pings !transphobes !wincels
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I think they were discussing philosophy or quantum computing or Red Hat Linux or something.
- Haberdasher : Exactly what it says it is.
- Fabrico : NSFW
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UPDATE: Middle School IT tech Mason David Luxenberg aka "MasonL87" has deleted his Reddit account after researchers discovered credible death threats and other extremist commentary on his profile.
β Justice Report (@JR_Newswire) February 7, 2025
Follow @JR_Newswire https://t.co/ILTEwszU7y pic.twitter.com/hDFNl4WznF
- Grue : Good shit
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Now that we're sincereposting let's all try too be decent human beings. /s
EFFORTPOST
The Horror crash of the South African Airways Flight 295 (SA295) - on 28 Nov 1987 a Boeing 747 customized for Safrican use, suffered a fire midflight, which resulted in the 747 snapping in half, and dropping like a stone into the Indian Ocean, killing all 159 passengers. The inconclusive post-crash investigation let to proliferation of conspiracy theories in the pre-internet era, due to suspicion that the Apartheid-regime had used the crash to assassinate a passenger.
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Greetings Dramatards
In 1987, the SAL (Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens), or the SAA (South African Airways), operated a small fleet of Boeing 747-200 Combi variants, for its international flights. Boeing was at its peak, and the 747 was one of the worlds most infamous and popular commercial aircraft ever produced.
One of these Being 747-200s was the "Helderberg", which operated often between the Johannesburg Jan Smuts airport (now modern day O. R. Tambo International Airport), and various international destinations.
On the fateful day of 28 November 1987, an uncontrollable catastrophic fire broke out in the cargo area of the 747-200 Helderberg. At some unknown point this fire caused, the breaking and snapping the airplane in half, and the airplane to drop like a stone into the Indian Ocean, a distance away from the Island off of Mauritius.
INTRO: INCONCLUSIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND CONSPIRACIES
"An extensive salvage operation was mounted to try to recover the aircraft's flight recorders, one of which was recovered from a depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft)." But due to the inconclusive findings on the cause of the fire, events would lead to conspiracy theories, due to the political tensions between the Apartheid-regime and the rest of the world's Western democracies, and between the 1st and 2nd world during the Cold War.
There was (among radicals the) belief that the Union of SA regime had conspired to assassinate one of the passengers for being a severe critic of the Apartheid government, although who specifically amongst the 159 dead onboard, was supposed to have been singled out for assassination, was never specified aptly or elaborated by conspiracies.
On the other hand, the Bureau of State Security (BOSS), the SA equivalent of the CIA and NSA rolled into one ominous organization, was a very powerful and secretive mechanism of the Union regime, which enacted counter-insurgencies, imprisoned high-level ANC and communist members, and was known to ACTUALLY have assassinated political dissidents during the High Apartheid era.
Additionally, the incredible blanket of secrecy and censorship against media and journ*lists at the time, constantly beget conspiracies or distrust against the Apartheid government, even and ironically ESPECIALLY, amongst the white minority it served to uphold as the dominant class, who themselves began to distrust their own government less and less. By 1987, the year in which the crash took place, the walls were also closing in for the Union regime, and there was already widespread open talk of Apartheid ending, or possible Civil War building, as sanctions had crippled the regime and brought it to its knees. Additionally, the Soviet Union was busy imploding - and with it, the arch-enemy, and external threat the regime had justified for the past 40 years, to enable it to curb the rights and freedoms, of blacks, and ironically whites of the nation state as well, as justification for the regime's existence.
Lastly, and why I go on this long tangent, to explain why this particular crash was fuel for distrust of the government, and why it played such a large role in the late 1980s zeightgheist for conspiracy (at least for the SA whites), was that just 2 years before in 1985, Angolan Communist forces had utterly humiliated the Union of South Africa by parading captured POWs in front of the international world audience!
https://rdrama.net/post/228216/marseyflagsouthafrica-1985-south-african-recces-special
I made a Longpost about it a year ago. But the context is that the public trust (of whites) in the Apartheid-regime and the Union of SA government had been permanently shattered. It was a Watershed-moment, similar in theme as the public trust of yanks being shattered in their government, when the Tet Offensive contravened the Military/Politician narrative that the US Forces were close to defeating communist forces in Vietnam. In 1985, during the long long Angolan-SA
Borger Bush War (which primarily occurred on the northern border of Namibia
which was part of the SA Union), young men of RECCES (the South African Special Forces; equivalent to Delta Forces), had been captured during a really stupid and unlucky moment during a highly classified covert operation, in which they were operating behind enemy lines in Angola.
The RECCE men were disgorged from a submarine under the cover of night, and made their way into enemy territory in Angola, under pitch darkness. Only to discover to their horror the next morning, that they had camped in an empty field; what they had though was a dense jungle, was in reality nothing but an island of dense plant growth within a sea of flat grass and crops. And their boot tracks upon the night dew had been discovered almost fricking immediately, leading to their capture.
After a brutal firefight, the survivors would be paraded by the Angolans on international TV, embarrassing
the SA government who had denied the presence of SA forces inside Angola, to the world at the UN, and more importantly their own citizens, while also shattering the trust white Safricans had in the regime. Combined with the coming home of crippled and wounded white young men from the Angolan border all the time, where they were forbidden from even telling their families where they lost their limbs, with the government lying about the perpetual expanding of operations, there was growing discontent.
In this context, it can be more easily understood why this specific Airplane crash, in this specific unique moment in time, would cause such consternation, when compared to the rest of the world's plane crashes, where the circumstances were comparatively benign.
But the distrust towards the Apartheid regime was so extreme, that many rejected the inconclusive findings of Flight SA295's crash and/or cause of the fire in the cargo area, which led to speculation or conspiracies that the government had planted bombs or incendiary devices to scuttle the plane during its vulnerability over the Indian Ocean, as part of an elaborate assassination attempt.
And to be clear these conspiracy theories weren't just the usual UFO nutjobs
and allegations were so extreme, to the extent that even the ANC TRC (Truth-and-Reconciliation-Commission), a Commission which investigated Apartheid crimes in 1994-1996 under the Nelson Mandela administration, that they reopened the crash-investigation a near decade later, because so many of the dead passengers relatives disbelieved the government investigation from back in 1987, and had petitioned for the new liberal order, to reopen the investigation!
THE EVENTS:
https://tailstrike.com/database/28-november-1987-south-african-295/
====(from tailstrike article)
Flight 295, called the Helderberg and flying in the aircraft livery and colours of South African Airways, took off from Chiang Kai Shek International Airport (now known as Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport), on a flight to Johannesburg via Mauritius. Dawie Uys served as the captain of the crashed flight.
Flight 295 had 140 passengers and six pallets of cargo on the main deck. The master waybills stated that 47,000 kilograms (100,000 lb) of baggage and cargo were loaded on the plane. A Taiwanese customs official performed a surprise inspection of some of the cargo; he did not find any cargo that could be characterized as suspicious.
At some point during the flight, a fire
developed in the cargo section on the main deck. The crew's checklist advised the crew to initiate recirculation of the air in the cabin and to open the cabin doors to let toxic gases out of the aircraft. However, the checklist operated under the assumption that the fire had been extinguished.
Since the fire was probably never extinguished prior to impact, the recirculation fed
smoke and toxic gases to passengers, and the opening of the door allowed in oxygen that fed the fire. A crew member went into the cargo hold to try to fight the fire, but he left behind a charged fire extinguisher either because he could not access the fire, or because it was too hot to stay in the hold. Investigators later found molten metal on the fire extinguisher.
At 23.49h the crew reported Mauritius Approach control they had a fire on board. An emergency descent to FL140 was carried out. Mauritius ATC cleared the aircraft to FL50, followed by an approach clearance. The captain's response was the last radio contact with SA295. The aircraft had somehow lost control, broke up and crashed into the Ocean.
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After communication with Flight SA295 was lost for thirty-six minutes, after midnight, air traffic control at Plaisance Airport (Mauritius) formally declared an emergency.
The investigation by South African authorities had concluded that the fire
began to destroy the aircraft's important electrical systems, resulting in loss of communication and control of the aircraft. At exactly 00:07 UTC (4:07 local time), the aircraft broke apart mid-air, the tail section breaking off first, due to the fire beginning to burn the structure of the aircraft, and crashed into the Indian Ocean, about 134 nautical miles (154 mi; 248 km) from the Plaisance airport.
Other theories given for the ultimate demise of the aircraft were that the flight crew eventually became incapacitated by the smoke and fire or extensive damage to the 747's control systems rendered the plane uncontrollable before it hit the ocean.
LONG FLIGHT:
Now one thing peeps need to know is that commercial Airplanes don't always like flying over oceans, as they tend to be actually more dangerous to land on land. Thus, many international flights prefer to hop over land stops, even on a detour for international flights. Typically an international flight would prefer to fly across Egypt, then towards South Africa, and avoid flights over large bodies of water, like the Indian Ocean.
But in 1987, South Africa was a Pariah State, and suffering Sanctions from like half of all members of the United Nations, including the majority of Western Liberal Democracies, and significantly, the majority of African states, which by this timeframe had decolonialized and obtained independence from their Eurocuck overlords, and most of whom were Subsaharan black peeps, not too pleased with the maltreatment black people received in the segregated Nation State of the Union of South Africa, and thus forbade trade, diplomacy or even the landing of aircraft in their airports, or the docking of ships at their docks.
Thus, for international long-distance flights, to far away places like Japan and East Asia, Safrican commercial airplanes, were pretty much forced to fly across the Indian Ocean
The makeup of the passengers included South Africans returning home, as well as Japanese, Taiwanese and some Australians.
https://www.key.aero/article/flying-springboks-great-detour
FLIGHT RECORD:
https://asn.flightsafety.org/asndb/326653
Now the reason why the type of airplane of SA295 or Helderberg was mentioned, namely the Boeing 747-200 Combi, was to illustrate the makeup of the plane. The Boeing 747-200 Combi consisted of a passenger area (the 1st 2/3rd of the airplane), and a cargo area (the last 1/3rd of the airplane). The fire would start at some place within the cargo area, away from human eyes, which is why it took longer than average for the crew to identify where exactly the fire was originating from, when the cockpit fire-alarm warnings began to be activated.
Picture of reconstruction of the airframe as by the Investigation Report.
In the flight recorder, it could be heard that the cockpit crew become surprised when fire-warning alarms rang out of nowhere, several hours prior to the last contact and crash of the plane. The strain in the pilot's voices could be heard
as this unholy nightmare scenario was one of the worst possible things to experience, for an airplane midway over an ocean.
The pilots desperately pulled out their manual checklists to determine the origin and cause of the fire-alarm. This might seem stupid to us laypeople, but apparently locating a fire source is especially difficult, as the idea is to do so well before it can do any damage, and fires on a commercial airplane can occur in many of the nooks-and-crannies of a vast aircraft like the 747.
In these flight recordings the sound of more circuit breakers popping (I don't know what precisely that means - i presume warning circuits to show electric flow between systems have ceased), and the pilot can be heard swearing in Afrikaans & English: "Dis die feit that albei fokken afgegaan het, wat my versteur" / "It's the fact that both turned off at the same time, which disturbs me"
These circuit breakers going off one after the other indicated that electrical wires were being eaten by flames somewhere in the airplane, and the horror of this comprehension could be heard in the voices of the pilots. The alarms did indicate that the fire was occurring within the cargo area, however.
But the real gal of this event! Was that some of the very wires the fire was busy eating, was that of the flight-recorder itself, which would only exacerbate the conspiracy and mystery of the events of Flight SA295.
ZUR TAPES:
Now because of the burning of the onboard Flight-recorder, the only audio records we have of the entirety of Flight SA295 was those of the beginning of the Flight-recorder, before the electric wires got burned
and the interaction of Captain Uys and the Mauritius Airport control tower recording, when Captain Uys requested a declaration of emergency, and the subsequent complete radio silence less than an hour later.
https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611
However in South Africa, in Johannesburg, South African Airways, also operated an International Radio Station called ZUR (frustratingly I could not locate any explanation for the acronym), which kept track of all of the South African Airways planes around the planet. The reason for this?
Remember when we talked about how South Africa was a Pariah State? And how they basically had to skirt the airspace of most of Africa, and many Western Democracies? Well ZUR allowed SAA to keep track of its fleet of aircraft, and direct them if problems or emergencies arose. It was only one of 2 Nation States on earth which provided such a service - the other being Bongland's British Airways.
WELL GUESS WHAT
The ZUR tape-recorders were missing. These ZUR tape-recordings are supposed to run all day 24/7, as the fleet of South African Airways' Springboks commercial airliners travel across various timezones, well outside the waking hours of Safrica, and the communication between the ZUR Johannesburg base and international flights preserved.
The tapes for the ZUR base communications for the night of 27 November 1987 was available. The tape for 29 November 1987 was there. But NOT the fricking tape for 28 Nov 1987
As you guys can only imagine, it was this discrepancy in the aftermath crash investigation which exacerbated conspiracies, even during the era of extreme censorship, as word-of-mouth discontent and suspicion broiled. The missing ZUR tapes are apparently legendary for Safrican airplane neurodivergents, though that is beyond my own capacity to verify.
Thus, the missing ZUR tapes indicated a sinister cause of the fire.
https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611
Some forum posts by aviation neurodivergents regarding "Two-Fire" theory regarding Flight 295 about 12 years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/helderberg295/posts/10161117563728150/
There's even a Facebook page about SA295
CONSPIRACY:
So what exactly is the conspiracy theories exactly about, according to South Africans? Why was there a cover up by those disbelieving the official government crash investigation reports. There are 2 schools of thought.
Assassination:
It's believed that one or some of the passengers aboard the Helderberg were liberals or anit-Apartheid advocates with influence coming to South Africa to stir dissension and groomercord, amongst both black and white South Africans, or were reporters coming to expose more crimes-against-humanity of the Union regime or whatever. This would not even be an unprecedented action by organs of the state like BOSS (Bureau for State Security), which in fact DID assassinate ANC and other communist leaders, often outside of South African borders, because the Apartheid authorities liked to remove dangerous agitators away from SA shores, because they desired the veneer of authenticity.
Using a bomb, or an incendiary device to disguise the assassination device, to destroy the airplane over the Indian Ocean, away from prying eyes, and outside SA borders, would have been the type of methods employed by powerful entities like BOSS.
This conspiracy theory holds less weight amongst other conspiracy believers, because the idea of the SA Government sacrificing about 100 South Africans, and one of its commercial airliners
just to kill one undesirable target holds little water, and would even be unprecedented for Apartheid authorities. The reason being is that the white government was neurotic about valuing white lives.
Whist it didn't value black lives at all, the incredible small white population of South Africa, meant that white populations were precious to the government, even the dissidents, and the government Police or even Military police seldom at any point from 1940-1993 ever killed whites, even white anti-Apartheid advocates like Breyten Bretenbach, whom they just jailed or exiled from the country.
https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breyten_Breytenbach
So to wholesale murder 100 whites to silence even an influential detractor (the specific passenger whom isn't even decided) would be outside of the MO of historic regime behaviour.
Gun-Smuggling
During 1987, due to being sanctioned by basically everyone which mattered, the Union regime was on its knees in terms of the ability to self-sustainably construct domestic products, much of which they could not craft locally, like weaponry.
While South Africa could and DID in fact craft much of their own warplanes, tanks, armoured vehicles and small-arms, they could not do so for everything, and their industries were becomnning increasingly shackled. Thus, according to this school of conspiracy thought, the regime authorities endeavored to smuggle arms even via their commercial airliners from places like East-Asia which were mostly neutral with regards to Human Rights slapfights in the UN
and more willing to trade on the black market with pariah states.
The military operations in Angola was bottomless in its thirst and requirements for equiment and ammunition. According to this theory, high ranking government officials, army leaders and South African Airways officials were all in on the conspiracy, and were the ones to immediately destroy the ZUR tapes pertaining to the Helderberg SA295, even under the fear that some of the weapons, bombs missile fuel chemicals, or God alone knows, they suspected were the cause of the fires upon the Helderberg, because the transport of military hardware had to be done under supreme secrecy and censorship.
Additionally, South African Airways would be breeching International Law, as the use of civilian commercial aircraft to smuggle weapons is forbidden. SA was already enough of a Pariah state, and the discovery, or at least proof of such cargo could lead to the banning of the SAA in many countries, or at least it is theorized such would be feared.
THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH:
Now it's important to understand that immediately after the Helderberg SA295's crash became news to South Africa, the 1st theories for its crash had been terrorism, as in ANC or other communist factions had planted a bomb to destroy the aircraft, in a similar way in which the ANC was bombing schools, police stations and courts within South Africa, to pressure the White government to end segregation and begin democratization. It was initially believed that somebody sympathetic to ANC communists, like chinese spies had smuggled an incendiary bomblet into the cargo of the Helderberg.
It was only after the ZUR tapes absence was noted, that the conspiracy theories and public turned hostile towards the South African government itself.
"Rennie Van Zyl, South Africa's head crash investigator, examined three wristwatches from baggage recovered from the surface; two of the watches were still running according to Taiwan time. Van Zyl deduced the approximate time of impact at 00:07:00, around three minutes after the last communication with air traffic control"
"Immediately after the crash, the press and public opinion suspected that terrorism brought down Flight 295. South Africa, then under the control of the apartheid government, was the target of terrorism both domestically and internationally, and offices for SAA, the country's flag carrier, had previously been attacked. Experts searched for indicators of an explosion on the initial pieces of wreckage discovered, such as surface pitting, impact cavities and spatter cavities caused by white-hot fragments from explosive devices that strike and melt metal alloys found in aircraft structures. Experts found none of this evidence. The investigators drew blood samples from two of the recovered bodies and found that the bodies had soot in their tracheae, indicating that at least two had died from smoke inhalation before the aircraft had crashed, and concluded that some of the passengers would have already lost their lives even if the pilots had successfully reached the airport.
https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/the-helderberg-disaster-was-this-the-cause-of-the-
"Van Zyl took the voice recorder to the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in Washington, DC, both to show his goodwill and to ensure neutral observers. Van Zyl believes that if he had kept the CVR in South Africa he could have been accused of covering up the truth."
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32753-south-african-airlines-crash-combi-fire-mystery
Additionally the cargo manifest created at Taiwan could not be trusted by the investigators
DEEDSEA SEARCH:
Finding the black box and voice-recorder was a monumental undertaking. And the lead investigator Rennie Van Zyl, was incredibly disappointed
when they found the recorder basically contained nothing of the flight log, as it was cut off by the fire basically just when the important action started. And you'll understand his frustration once you realize the magnitude of effort the SA government made to find it.
"The search area is described as being comparable in size to that of the wreck of the Titanic, with the water at 5,000 metres (16,000 ft) being considerably deeper than any previously successful salvage operation. South Africa mounted an underwater search, named 'Operation Resolve', to try to locate the wreckage. The underwater locator beacons (ULBs) attached to the flight recorders were not designed for deep ocean use; nevertheless, a two-month-long sonar search for them was carried out before the effort was abandoned on 8 January 1988 when the ULBs were known to have stopped transmitting (at the time a ULB had to generate sonic pulses for thirty days)"
"Steadfast Oceaneering, a specialist deep-ocean recovery company in the US, was contracted at great expense to find the site and recover the flight recorders. On 6 January 1989, the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) was salvaged successfully from a record depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft) by the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) Gemini, but the flight data recorder was never found."
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMISSION:
Now again to put into perspective just how widespread distrust there was within South African society about the Investigation Crash report of Flight SA295, and how foul play was suspected by both black and white safricans, the conspiracy movement continued onwards for 7 full years, well unto 1993, when democratization took place, and the Mandela Administration took power under the ANC party. And that many of the dead passengers had applied to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) which took place from 1995-1996, where perpetrators of crimes-against-humanity during Apartheid were offered the chance of Amnesty by the Mandela Admin, if they confessed their crimes.
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/
The whole TRC event is worth its own Longpost, as pretty much everyone was unhappy with the results. TRC could to force anyone to confess, only interrogate officials and was drama-central. Whitoids felt it was commies lynching revenge, and blacks felt apartheid officials got off scot free.
Point is the reopening of the Air Crash Investigation was authorized by the ANC, so it was a pretty seriously considered conspiracy theory!!
https://gist.ly/youtube-summarizer/flight-295-the-mystery-of-south-african-airways-tragic-journey
In the years since 1987, several pilots of South African Airways had allegedly come forward to claim that they were aware of South African airways were in cahoots with Armscor, the South African Armaments Manufacturer. Armscor apparently sued the pilots and journ*lists about these articles, but not much came from it as far as I can gather.
They still exist today, and still make weapons for the current government by the way
KLATZOW INTERVIEW:
Basically, there was one guy called David Klatzow, who was a forensic scientists who was retained to work on the case by Boeing's counsel around the time of the official enquiry. He deeply distrusted the SA investigators.
=====He subsequently criticised the Margo commission for spending an inordinate amount of time looking into "relatively irrelevant issues" and that the commission ignored the most important question, what was the source of the fire and who had been responsible for loading it onto the aircraft? Klatzow believes that there are certain irregularities in parts of the commission transcript that indicate that something on the CVR transcript had to be concealed.=====
=====Klatzow put forward a theory that the fire likely involved substances that would not normally be carried on a passenger aircraft and that the fire was not likely a wood, cardboard, or plastic fire. South Africa was under an arms embargo at the time; the South African government therefore had to buy arms clandestinely. Klatzow's theory postulates that the government placed a rocket system in the cargo hold, and that vibration caused the ignition of unstable ammonium perchlorate, which is a chemical compound used as a missile propellant.=====
Klatzow had argued that Captain Uys would have been in contact with ZUR station and as a SAAF reservist, he would have followed orders from the Union regime not to land the Helderberg at Taiwan once fire had been detected, because discovery of illicit cargo upon investigation of the fire could have led to South African Airways being banned from international flights.
He was the primary guy interviewed in 1998 TRC for the Helderberg.
This specific TRC hearing was very shit and inept.
"Klatzow was invited by the TRC to explain his theories and cross-examine witnesses. Unlike most other hearings of the TRC, the hearing into Flight 295 was conducted in camera, and without any representation from the South African Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). Klatzow considered the CAA untrustworthy because it had participated in the official enquiry, which he considered flawed. A number of key aspects of Klatzow's theory hinged on his criticism of the actions of Judge Margo during the official enquiry, yet Judge Margo was not summoned to answer any of the allegations made against him."
"The TRC concluded that nothing listed in the flight manifest could have caused the fire, a conclusion that was met with controversy within the public."
Basically it all went fricking nowhere, and everybody was upset. The former judges and investigators were upset, because they literally weren't invited to even stand in for their actions. The families were upset because they were cucked.
Here's the original transcript which TRC commission (alongside video tapes of the interviews) was pressured by the public to release in 2000, because the answers and the TRC's conclusions were so unsatisfying. It's very
boring, and in my personal opinion mostly conjecture, which is probably why the TRCtards wanted to get on with other much juicier apartheid fish to fry.
https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/documents/special/helderberg/56321.htm
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And uhhh, that's pretty much it, the mystery is still pretty much unsolved, and the majority of the families decry the findings of the original Air Crash investigation and that of the TRC. Of course most accusations are in fact still hearsay, and the mundane reality is that the Helderberg crash could in fact have been due to unfortunate circumstances rather than conspiracy.
Some pictures.
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: Banned for 2 weeks and I still got thin-skinned cute twinks SEETHING lmaoooo
- Iforgotmypassword : The CDO doth protest too much.
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- Arran : black lives matter
- novie : gay metashit (and that's a good thing)
- Horned_waifus_shill : /h/meta
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RED ALERT!!! OLDEST SPAL VICTIM KNOWN TO DATE ALSO HAS A PEEPEE!!!! Rachel (he/him) then cucks him mid-speech about how it's totally a hermaphrodite dooood not a
with a shenis!1!1!!
!metashit eat up!
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Nice little infighting in this SomaliSpot thread discussing deportations of Ethiopian Oromos from one of the federal states of Somalia, Puntland.
For those who don't know what's going on, Oromos have been caught fighting on behalf of ISIS in Puntland's remote mountainous areas, along with Arabs. Since then locals have demanded that they are deported and the government has obliged.
Furthermore, Oromos have installed themselves on Somali soil and we've lost Dire Dhaba to them and other areas. Moreoever, they are at constant war with the Somalis they neighbour, constantly stealing their land and using flipflopping 'Somali' communities to execute their land-expansionism.
Aurelian said: The attack by civilians on Oromos in Somalia will certainly fuel ethnic hatred in Oromia and Ethiopia in general against other Somalis.
LOL You are always sympathising with Oromos, very interesting. What attacks? Hmmmm? The only attacks have been the other way round with Oromo terrorists, Oromo cannibals and Oromo violent land expansionism.
Very spicy, could Aurelian be an Oromo sympathiser? He replies to another user accusing him of harbouring anti-Somali sentiments for our Cushitic cousins:
πππππππ πππππ said:
They are STILL BREAKING LAWS BY BEING AN ILLEGAL. Or do you think Somalia is a brothel where anybody can walk in without permission?
Aurelian said:
no, if they broke the law the law enforcement should deal with them not mobs them with sticks.
Another patriot expounds on the current naivety of Somalis:
These guys forget this is third world backwards savage Africa, your bleeding heart liberal antics is misplaced, believe me ain't no naxariisc (empathy) in this cursed God forsaken continent, rn Addis Ababa is surrounded by these pagans, they're kidnapping civilians for ransom, if they can't even have naxariis for the weak (Harari) or their fellow countrymen, why should we?
The OP of the thread, BASED Puntite Queen asserts that the Great Replacement is occurring right now not only in the suburbs of Galkacyo but in SomaliSpot itself!!
That is precisely why Ethiopia's plan is to send these people to us, to learn our language and then when they are large enough, they overwhelm our security forces and take over for their coastline fantasy. I am sure many more are in hiding. On this forum too.
One commentator channels his inner Goebbels as he exhorts his countryment to wake up to the Oromo Final Solution!
It's shocking to see how many ppl here have naxriis for these vermins. Man up and stop crying like some lil b!tches. If they had the chance to wipe us out completely they would do it. They are a big threat to our nation. A decade didn't even pass since abiy became president and oromos are responsible for the most genocides and mass r*pes in ethiopia. why don't oromos call their own people out when it comes to the aforementioned atrocities against amharas and tigrayans? Or why didn't our so called oromo 'muslim brothers' oppose the MoU deal and side with us? There is no allies in this God forsaken continent. Believe me abiy would start a war against us and he would supply them with weapons but he can't right now because he's fighting against fano and ethiopia is too broke to fight in two frontlines. Just put two and two together and you will realise that these 'miskiins' are nothing more than sleeper cells whose goal is to take our lands. Kudos to PL
dadkas ha la tarxiilo
The last sane Somali on SomaliSpot speaks up and reminds the angry hordes of the unity of Islam !ummah :
His peaceful response finally brings some levity to the thread as others agree that they might have gone a little too far:
I understand the concerns surrounding Oromo expansionism and tons of undocumented migrants flooding into Somali regions. I don't think most people are saying turn a blind eye and tolerate it or taking issue with safe, legal deportations. The problem is people whipping up Oromo-hate and demonising an entire ethnic group. Someone a few posts before me called them "vermin" and got many upmarseys. People are posting tiktoks and twitter posts of Oromo nationalists saying problematic things to paint a certain picture of them and incite further hatred and suspicion. These are dangerous sentiments that don't align with our morals and values. Which, by the way, come from our religion and not "the liberal West". There's never a justification for dehumanising an entire group of people.
I'll call it a day there, plenty more slapfights in that thread for anyone who wants to laugh at more senseless !africans infighting.
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German Defense Minister Pistorius reacts to Vance's speech: "This is not acceptable." pic.twitter.com/LdVuLC6PbU
— AlexandruC4 (@AlexandruC4) February 14, 2025
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So Trashley St. Clair of the sexlaptop who sold nudes and fucked ANYTHING for clout and career leg ups including Elon whose child she claims she just had
— MILO (@Nero) September 6, 2024
We need to discuss
And naturally Elon stays winning