I don't follow the VR space but have used budget devices before (Daydream, PSVR1, Quest 3).

I have to say it's pretty mind blowing.

A lot of the OS already feels mature (it takes a lot of inspiration from iPadOS) and apps feel native.

I think the most outstanding things to me are the gestures and the fluidity of the UI. The gestures are so natural and take a couple minutes to pick up, the UI is so responsive it fades into the background and you don't realize it's tracking your eyes super fast.

Me and my friend found no screen door effect but it is a little blurry - might be early foveated rendering tech.

I highly recommend booking a demo yourself just to check it out, reading reviews like this is no replacement for actually using it.

My first dealbreaker is the lack of macOS tier apps (being able to pull up a display is nice but it's clearly a hack - I want to use the M2 in the device I bought). If I can't open a terminal and I can't compile code then it's not a productivity device.

The other dealbreaker is the price -obviously. This would be an incredibly compelling “cool tech” device at $2k, at $3600 base it's just too expensive. I am glad they shot for “what's the craziest device we can make” but it still disqualifies it for me.

!codecels.

https://www.404media.co/the-viral-toothbrush-ddos-botnet-story-almost-certainly-isnt-real

Intellectuals of reddit discuss how smart you need to be a web dev

so like 120 iq which is probably already only <5% of the population

population level yes lmao

can you see the average person doing this v work?

One of my old managers said "I think anyone can be a cloud engineer"...

He's kinda right, not because CE is easy but because anyone can do it if they apply themselves [this is downmarseyd lmao]

There are tons of people who couldn't do it even if they applied themselves. Like the McDonald's worker the other day who kept insisting I had an order number after I repeatedly told and showed her the app crashed and I wasn't given one.

I had someone try to convince me that when I claimed my free quarter pounder from my rewards points, that I had to buy one first to get the free one. For 3 minutes.

Ah yes the smarties are now posting how they get into arguments with McDonald's workers the pinnacle of intellectual workers

Not worth a dedicated post but it reminded me of this rust post

I've been a professional developer since about 2012. Most of the stuff I work on is web applications, and I believe I am pretty good at it given my experience and interactions with my peers. I love programing and it takes up most of my free time. [...] What is thread safety anyways? Atomics? What are those?

bro how the frick can you be a developer for over a decade and you don't understand thread safety?

This actually causes me to revise my understanding of reality a bit. I had no idea that such a high fraction of people on the orange site don't have the knowledge base and/or social modeling ability to be immediately able to realize that Goody-2 is a parody.

Back in the day I used to do Mechanical Turk like work assessing search engine quality. There were very detailed guidelines about what made a search engine good, compiled into a like 250 page document Google had been curating and updating over the course of years.

One of the key concepts was the idea of a "vital" result for a user request. If a user had a specific request, the search engine had to deliver that content first. For example, simpson.com at the time was a malicious website. With this in mind, if the user searched for "simpson.com", the first result had to be simpson.com, even if the search engine is returning a malicious page. It's specifically what the user requested. We aren't supposed to question what the user wants. The results that followed after could provide suggestions of what else the user may be looking for, like the official Simpsons website.

I would love to see whatever shreds of this document is left at this point, and I'd love to know at what point the entire thing was thrown into the trash and rewritten. I assume somewhere around the year 2016 or 2020. I know this is nothing shocking to a lot of people, but it really does amaze me just how bad things have gotten. I've stuck to the major search engines because despite peoples bitching, for a long time they consistently outperformed the smaller competitors, but they are genuinely without hyperbole almost unusable now.

Example: I wanted to find the recent Tucker Carlson - Vladimir Putin interview. It's a newsworthy interview with a world leader and a current event. There is a very specific video I'm looking for, the published, official video of sitting down and asking questions.

Here is what google returns in a private window:

The very first piece of content - the "vital result" - is clickbait youtube cute twinkry from Time What are the keeraZIEST moments from the interview?!?

The rest of the results are a cascade of editorialized garbage, opinionated news articles reporting on the requested content. God forbid a careless user actually be exposed to a primary source.

The closest result to what I'm looking for is about over 10 pieces of content deep - the transcript of the interview from Russia's state website. Likely this is an oversight.

Here is Bing:

There's been some meme going around that "no really guys, Bing is actually kinda good now believe it or not".

This is even more nonsense than Google. The most prominently featured content is, of course, more editorialized bullshit with the interview itself nowhere to be found. But also half of the content is just completely irrelevant crap I didn't ask for. Why is the entire right half of the page a massive infobox about Tucker and his books and quotes? Why am I seeing something about Game of Thrones?

Brave:

You get the point. More useless crap. It gets half a point for its AI accidentally revealing that tuckercarlson.com is where the interview is located, but this doesn't count. The actual search results are all garbage. Thanks Brave for showing me all the latest reddit discussions

Yandex:

Was that really so fricking hard? Result #1 - the interview from Tucker Carlson. Past the interview are news articles and images - things of waning utility that other users may be interested in. But the vital result is at the top of the page. That's fricking it. This would have been the required order for the page on Google ten years ago.

https://www.goody2.ai

https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1al4euf/introducing_goody2_the_worlds_most_responsible_ai

funny exchange i found on an orange sight post

edit/save buttons are better than implicitly saving on the web, native & mobile don't @ me i'm right pic.twitter.com/lg3tdjrJMP

— htmx.org / do i look like a guy w/a plan? (same th (@htmx_org) February 7, 2024

this will go nowhere

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1755623178078937111#m

https://twitter.com/ddimolfetta/status/1755624824024506631#m

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1alz6gc/aigenerated_voices_in_robocalls_can_deceive

im building a new computer in like ~3 days and i need to make the decision on whether to stick with windows 10 or upgrade to windows 11

im not paying for a key so price doesnt matter

https://archived.moe/g/thread/98849519

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1ajbwh8/search_engine_yandex_owner_to_exit_russia_in_52

Orange Site:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39258560

Thought this looked pretty cool. Thoughts?

Dang, I literally don't know how anyone would choose to fly on one of these flying death cans.

For those unaware, the long awaited Apple's VR device, Vision Pro, has arrived. Earlier this week, content creators, websites and gadget reviewers started publishing their first impressions on the device, a fruit of the early access granted for them. Consumers are only today getting their hands on it.

the /r/virtualreality sub was, of course, taken by the news.

1 - First, this post rounds up multiple reviews of the device - in its majority praising Apple's technological revolution.

The majority of the sub, however, is not believing it. This top voted comment believes the reviewers were handpicked for being "less experienced", so that they would be "more dazzled by the tech".

This fella is certain every outlet is "sucking apple's fat shlong".

Others are just enjoying the mess: "So good we have a new hardware battle in the tech world again".

2 - Memes begin arising, with a colorful comment section; this guy is happy to see innovation and wants to wait and see how it goes, but this reply makes it clear he already knows the Apple device is worse than Meta's device. The rest of the comment section doesn't get better.

3 - This specific user is speechless with an emotional experience with the device, but the comment section is not happy about it, and more tribal war ensues.

4 - This is an important one: It's a picture of Apple's CEO wearing the device, made public from an extensive review from vanity fair, quoting even James Cameron as being completely taken by the technology. Comment section (350+ comments) is a blood battle.

5 - This guy is tired of the fighting, asks for perspective and says "This subreddit of all places should be a source of optimism for the progression of the technology".

6 - This is posted comparing the takes from /r/virtualreality (as being cynical) and /r/VisionPro (as being passionate and optimistic). But the top comment thinks it's because /r/virtualreality has seen it all, while /r/VisionPro is naive. And someone adds here that OP "is making /r/VisionPro sound like a heavenly meadow full of daisies". Another user thinks the Vision Pro sub is a cult of uninformed tech buyers.

​

7 - Trying to chime in, this expert VR user gets his hand on a Vision Pro and gives it what he thinks is a fair assessment, but he's informed only negative reviews are allowed there. This friend thinks his post "reeks of Apple's positive influence" over them.

Grab your VR headsets and enjoy!

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ai8e3p/rvirtualreality_is_in_civil_war_the_launch_of

Nothing really interesting here except confirmation that this same stupid shit is being done everywhere in the world and everyone hates it.

FULL COMMENTS - Why is Linux not bigger in leftist spaces?

The shit just ain't casual friendly. It's for nerds and coders and devs.

I have to disagree, windows out of all three seems like the most odd to use

I mean in a perfect world if I could snap my fingers and have everyone intuitively understand Linux sure. But we don't live in that world...Plus games run like shit on it cause they aren't optimized also Linux has terrible drivers for gaming. A lot of these issues would be solved if more people used it but that's the problem isn't it.

games absolutely do not run like shit on linux

it really isn't, things like point and click on icons are universal, but folder structure in windows is a NIGHTMARE compared to linux and even MacOS.

Look I'm not anti Linux at all. I just get why it's not popular. The fact that it's only now in 2024 becoming what even resembles viable as a gaming machine means it lost the relevancy war literal decades ago. You're not going to get people to change now I'm sorry.

This is like somebody who specializes in studying Latin insisting it's super easy to learn and people a should learn it

It's literally not at all. This pre-concieved notion that ALL OF LINUX is a specialist thing is weird.

“This is the year of the Linux desktop!” was a meme back when I was in high school which is becoming depressingly far away lmao.

We argue relentlessly against conservative talking points who reject better and more sustainable solutions in favor of keeping things familiar, but when it comes to tech, that's fine?

Mate, it's an operating system. Equating UX familiarity for an OS to the systemic issues caused by conservatives is just…wild. Like, this is so far down on the list of priorities dude.

Data privacy and cyber security is not low on the list. As we speak red states are subpaneling tech companies to use their data to monitor trans folk and pregnant people to enforce these ridiculous policies. The metric fricktons of damage Microsoft and apple have done to not just the digital landscape, but the actual landscape. When Windows PC or Apple Products crash people chuck the computer and buy a new one, the carbon footprint of making electronics is insane, not to mention the labor exploitation? Reducing these things to "just an OS" is just really ignorant.

I'd understand people saying they're just too inundated with windows and apple to make a switch, but actively blaming linux devs and hand waving them as irrelevant seems in poor taste.

I'm not blaming anyone. I'm laying out the reality of the situation. If you want people to up end how they operate and literally have to learn a new system you're going to have to provide them with a good reason. A problem needs to be solved in the process. And Linux only presents new and more numerous problems for people to solve.

Better security, breaking reliance on tech giants from your hardware, privacy, etc. Sure these should be solved with legislation, but why keep poisoning just because it isn't illegal? Cutting down on carbon emissions and e-waste, reuse possibilities are pivotal in climate and environmental issues...W/e you win all hail big tech I guess.

Many of us grew up with windows/macos machines so we're much more intuitively aware of how to use them, so that's much more important for your average user (let alone leftist ones)

This is kind of my point as well. Double clicking an icon is universal (shockingly even in linux), you can have desktop and task bar icons, I'm not sure what exactly is more complicated?

My guy, my dude us normal people can't even operate a printer properly.

Understanding social and political nuances that have hundreds if not thousands of years of world history and context behind as well as working through socially ingrained biases and programming to come to ethical, tolerant and compassionate political views seems WAY harder than loading up Firefox in Ubuntu.

Maybe for you, most people literally shut down when they run into problems with machines. Its why the morons at the Best Buy genius bar still get business despite their utter incompetence.

sure, but if someone decided to be a conservative or a liberal because politics is too complicated to understand and they want easy answers and world views, we wouldn't say that's okay. Allowing capitalist institutions to literally have a stranglehold over our personal lives with our tech choices when there exists viable alternatives seems dumb.

But that's literally what US politics is, people do not understand nuance and are primarily reactionary or single issue voters.

You could make that point about literally everything in the world. There's a reason we form societies and have specialisms. Where do you draw the line? Politics is the exception as it's something we should ALL be well versed in as a base line due to the danger an ill informed voter bloc can pose, but we can't be well versed in absolutely everything in the world.

Most people who use windows aren't well versed in computers. Same with linux. The only reason I'm seeing boils down to "everyone else is doing it so even trying something else is dumb, im very smart"

Well no shit, it's the OS that comes pre-installed and set-up on pretty much every single non-Mac PC. How many people do you think actually set-up and install everything on their PC's?...Windows (or Apple depending on your field) is beaten into you from day one when working with a PC, and it's what you'll be using for your entire work life. To insist that "real leftists" should be learning how to use Linux in addition to this because Microsoft/Apple bad (which I agree with btw) is just utterly and completely unrealistic.

So is the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, conservatism in general, yet its easier to break away from that? You can Eye-roll and say "its just an OS" all you want but it doesn't change the fact that MS and Apple are destroying the environment and promoting e-waste and worker exploitation to meet a demand.

Did I say those things were easier to deal with? And can you frick off with comparing Operating systems to ideologies that want people like me dead. It's frankly offensive and disgusting.

The linux community has made it easier than ever to jump into and use beginner friendly distros out of the box. But to even suggest people look into it, get all these visceral reactions as if linux is the big bad evil source of everything wrong in the world.

No one is reacting like Linux is evil. This has been explained to you time and time again but you seem to just want to feel superior so frankly you can frick off.

Where do i come off seeming like that? By answering people's questions and concerns or pointing out false perceptions where I see them? You morally policing me comes across as wanting to feel superior. Sure I don't respond well to people being condescending or reactionary towards me but according to you not one person has bee condescending, rude, or stating false pretenses and the only one who's done wrong is me. Like will you even admit that you're being condescending, hand waving, or rude?

My guy, you're constantly deriding this community as "passive consumers" and acting as though they're bad leftists for not wanting to use Linux. You're coming across as a massive butthole which is why people are being rude in response.

I don't need to engage with bad faith assumptions and attacks to get my point across. if they don't want to listen or reconsider, that's on them .

You really can't fathom why people are being rude to you, huh?

The average person doesn't wanna mess around with computers. They just want it to work.

That's what I don't understand. Linux, just works. Unless you're doing more than a normal person would do, you're not running into issues. Turn on computer click internet browser. What wizardry are people imagining linux is like?

With this comment I'm almost certain you've never played around with any of the distros.

Literally on reddit on popOs lol.

Yeah...yeah you are. Why are you here and not using something open, like kbin or mastodon? Disappointing to see you passively consuming social media.

I've never said people shouldn't use windows or non open source software. And I'm actively using reddit by having a discussion about the very topic we're discussing. Passively using it would be scrolling and joining in dogpiles for entertainment.

Not everyone is capable of using Linux. Alot of leftists aren't that tech literate

Windows is more complicated. Being used to something doesn't mean it's more intuitive.

If something becomes widespread enough it kind of does, at least it has the same effect

That's a capitalist idea that the "best product is the one that sells the best". Microsoft has so many contracts and buy outs that positions itself as the primary desktop OS in businesses and schools. Ofc teaching it to young people indoctrinates them into being used to it.

Look you asked why people aren't willing to use Linux. People are explaining it to you. Windows has become the default and iOS is the alternative.

Conservatism and capitalism are the default world views, but I'm not gonna default my values to that because its convenient. I just didn't expect this level of callousness and complacency

My guy it's an operating software lol. I willing join you in the fight to change economic systems eg. Advocating for socialism. I don't care what operating software I use

Maybe it's just an operating system to you, but that data, and tech influence has downstream impacts in data privacy, security, data brokering, etc. its the "climate change is already happening, why try to stop it" mentality that I hate.

Have you seen a person who does not major in engineering or computer science try to use Linux? Your question suggests you have not! :D

My 60 yr old parents manage just fine. Neither worked in tech. I set up a laptop for them and told them to try to learn to do things on their own, they figured most things out with minimum intervention.

OK..... so your response is to do a 'I escaped poverty, which means everyone else can too.' My friend I have read through your comments here, if you honestly think there is nothing extraordinary about Linux and it's just another alternative - your opinions are your opinions and therefore they cannot be 'wrong', but let's just say your preferences are an exception.

You know that linux is cheaper than a Windows license? Do you really think that EVERYONE can learn Windows but only certain people can learn Linux? Everything from the source code, to tutorial and a whole community of people are available to help those those need with navigating linux. FREE OF COST.

Good luck bro. I am sure everyone will realize how right you are very soon.

That's just rude and unnecessary.

You have argued with everyone who disagrees with you in this thread. The word for what you are is 'crybully'. You're either a troll or severely disadvantaged in understanding social cues.

I never understood the obsession with reddit downmarseys. playing the good will hunting bit on me is just cringe.

Time to cry about how I blocked you.

Linux requires time. It's not that it's very very hard -- It's that it requires you to sit down and learn how to use it. Even flashing a distro onto a USB and then booting it up through BIOS, for the average person, is difficult and will take time to learn. Most people don't have time, or don't want to put time into it.

You need to do this for windows as well! Tons of people in the community build their own PC's, have amazing degrees, understand thousands of years of world history context, etc. I agree it's a little more work, but spending time to learn being looked at as a negative in a leftist community is making me feel pretty sad.

Holy shit the comments in here. Bring up Linux to a leftist might rival "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds." For irate reactions.

Like…where though? I just see people explaining why it hasn't caught on and OP overreacting to it.

I get it. You hate Linux.

Dude, this is what I was talking about. I literally don't hate linux - I even use it at work. You're seriously overreacting to people.

Dude, seriously. Stop gaslighting me.

lmao, okay. Post my comment that shows me hating linux.

Goodbye 👋

Same reason it's not big everywhere. It's obtuse and unavailable in stores.

that makes sense for why liberals and conservatives don't use it. As leftists we're always looking for different options and possibilities, not just settling for what media or large corporations are telling us good.

No leftists are no better at this shit my guy. The only people with even a passable interest in Linux are people with autism and deep end computer nerds. The leftist in your head is imaginary.

This is just rude.

I'm fine with that

Linux is one of the few things that can bring leftists and libertarians uncomfortably close to each other.

Not sure about that one, leftists seems pretty hardcore against it.

Literally no one in these comments is "pretty hardcore against it", dude. You asked a question and haven't liked the answers.

The answers don't make any sense. The reasons people don't want to use or even learn about it exist in the what they use already or aren't the case. a few people who are honest but most seem reactionarily against it without any semblance of openness to be informed.

Literally where? Saying that the people broadly aren't likely to take the time to use a new OS they're not familiar with isn't "being reactionarily against it", and explaining to you that the average layperson's understanding of technology is far lower than your expectation isn't that either.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ag4hm5/leftist_linux_lover_laments_living_with_lesser