- DickButtKiss : That is SO frickin gay and btw you will own nothing and like it
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TL;DR on the Sokal Hoax is some chads submitted bogus nonsense papers to social science journals and they got published (there's zero academic rigor) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
I'm curious how hard / possible it would be to generate these with a ML tool and automating the submission process. the challenging part being any human follow up but I'm curious what could be done here.
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You will own nothing and be happy etc.
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1595422975972454401#m
https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1595453546190602242
- crunchwrap_supreme : madam do not merge PR !!
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What Elon is doing is a revolt by entrepreneurial capital against the professional-managerial class regime that otherwise everywhere dominates (including and especially large tech companies), and that same PMC (which includes the media) is treating it as an act of lèse-majesté.
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) November 18, 2022
Great thread which produced hundreds of seething responses.
Jacobin writer: this is the dumbest motherfricking analysis of power I've ever seen in my life
Sit down, journ*list. The producing class is conversing.
You couldn’t have made his point any stronger. Offering an emotional critique with zero substance and no counter argument…basically producing nothing while feeling all important. Basically stamping your feet saying, “nah uh!” You’re like the definition of participation award
Youre involved w DSA, your profile says, but have never heard of Burnhams theory of the managerial class? How is that possible?
Ok journ*list.
As someone who appears to be in the class outlined as the problem by the thread, your response is neither surprising nor terribly imaginative.
Super articulate analysis Comrade Shure
Says the lady writing for checks notes @BuzzFeedNews
aren't you the guy who wrote the book complaining about all the women in the bay area who won't sleep with you
ad hominem attack.... always the best approach when one's actual arguments are inferior
YIMBY Jeopardy guy with very valid criticism: the funniest thing about this is that you clearly think you are very smart. spoiler alert: you’re not
some blonde foid: He’s just very mad women don’t like him.
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that’s what Elon told me my job was, and I will try my hardest to do it. I have 12 weeks
— George Hotz 🐀 (@realGeorgeHotz) November 22, 2022
also trying to get rid of that nondismissable login pop up after you scroll a little bit ugh these things ruin the Internet https://t.co/vZbSfEqlfW
This guy's work on hacking iPhones and the PS3 was legendary at its time. He also tried to make his own self-driving car, but of course,
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So here we go. Twitter supposedly dumped 80% of their work force and ex-employees and media predicted it would collapse in on itself. We have all seen the articles ad nauseam at this point. Well we have another article from someone who supposedly did some worky at twitter.
Twitter supposedly lost around 80% of its work force. What ever the real number is, there are whole teams with out engineers on it now. Yet, the website goes on and the tweets keep coming. This left a lot wondering what exactly was going on with all those engineers and made it seem like it was all just bloat. I’d like to explain my little corner of Twitter (though it wasn’t so little) and some of the work that went on that kept this thing running.
For five years I was a Site Reliability Engineer(SRE) at Twitter. For four of those years I was the sole SRE for the Cache team. There was a few before me, and the whole team I worked with, where a bunch came and went. But for four years I was the one responsible for automation, reliability and operations in the team. I designed and implemented most of the tools that are keeping it running so I think I’m qualified to talk about it. (There might be only one or two other people)
So basically this one guy and maybe 2 other people designed all the automation tools to help keep Twitter afloat. It gets more technically but let's admit it, most none of us really care.
This substack generated a 1000 comment thread on HN
Why Twitter Didn’t Go Down: From a Real Twitter SRE
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This left a lot wondering what exactly was going on with all those engineers and made it seem like it was all just bloat.
This is where my went as well. If 1-3 people can automate something that kept Twitter up and running, the frick where the other 6,077 employees doing?
They had over a thousand moderators. So maybe your estimate of how many people is required is a bit off.
Twitter had a lot of people in marketing.
1-3 people doing SRE engineering to keep Twitter automated vs 1,000 moderators.
Twitter used to experience significant downtime compared to all other major platforms and one of the reason was its lack of redundancies across everything. Headcount is one such thing and it takes manpower to automate infrastructures as discussed in the post.
Sure, you can run the platform with 1/10 headcount with significantly degraded user experiences (say 98%). This is not a problem for startups but people usually have higher expectations for established companies. As always, the last 2% is a hard problem and business doesn't really want to deal with a such unreliable platform. You wanna onboard big advertisers which potentially spend $100M ARR? Then you need to assign a dedicated account manager to handle all customer escalations. PMs then triage and plan their feature requests and later engineers implement it. Which all adds up.
And they also uses your competitor's product, like Google, FB, TikTok etc etc... Twitter is a severely underdog here, so you need to support at least a minimal, essential subset of features in those products to convince them to spend their money on Twitter. That alone takes hundreds of engineers, data scientists and PM thanks to modern ad serving stacks with massive complexity...
Does your product keep crashing? Just hire people. That is all you need to do. See that bum on the corner. Increased headcount. Bam. Solved. Yeah Twitter is lacking in staff compared to Google, which run a multitude of other products, or Facebook, which runs a multitude of other products. I keep seeing this weird misconception that Elon fire 80% of Twitter and that 80% were all engineers and coders.
There are many, many posts like these basically arguing that "it runs fine now, and fine for the nth week, but " I'm lazy and won't link.
The most helpful thing to reflect on in these Twitter operational discussions is the difference between homeostasis and evolution. You can get rid of 80% of the work force and the existing homeostasis systems will keep things running smoothly despite known day-to-day chaos. Where you’re really going to run into trouble is inventing responses to novel chaos and gradually changing times.
I agree those were odd takes. I've likened firing most of the engineers to taking your hands off the wheel in the car. It won't crash immediately, but it doesn't mean the car can go driverless. With that said, there are differences between internal systems and something like Twitter on the public internet. I assume that Twitter is a system under constant attack. What happens when the next log4shell level vulnerability comes out?
All this does is point out that smart people worked at Twitter who may now no longer work there, whether on their own accord, or due to Elon’s bulldogging tactics.
Elon thinks he knows what he’s doing, but what he is going to be left with are people who are willing to work hard by his standards, but not necessarily smart.
The simple truth is Elon knows nothing about the actual work involved in tech. He knows words or elicits help from others on what to say that sounds like tech speak (RPCs!), but when it comes to being truly knowledgeable in this space, he is losing his most valuable assets because of his amazingly poor managerial and ownership style.
I know there are a lot of Elon fans on this site, and will disagree with all of this; but his abilities have not at all been proven. Yes, he knows how to spend money to claim credit for technical advances, but until he actually has his hands dirty in the muck of the hard work of tech, he will always be a glorified self-promoter with no substance.
And Twitter will suffer for it.
I think people's expectations became so exaggerated it was inevitable they wouldn't be lived up to. I'm sure Twitter will experience degradation from the drastic cost-cutting, but it was never going to happen overnight and I'm not sure why news outlets were saying that (except that their sources were employees with slightly inflated senses of their own importance, which we're all sometimes guilty of). And people became really invested in the idea that a site cannot possibly stay up without dedicated SREs, as though tons of tech sites (including big names like Amazon) don't just devolve this work to their on-call rotations.
Now to talking about things being overblown
It's actually scary how many people, even engineers, put their reputation on the line saying Twitter wouldn't survive the weekend. It wasn't just Twitter employees. It's like a mass psychosis of some kind. It comes off as a kind of desperation, as though they need Elon to fail. Why? What's driving that response?
I'm unable to find HNer's discussing how the media souring recently fired employees is probably not the best non-biased source of information, but, there are too many words.
Me rn :
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Oh heck naw we getting the tumblr verse
it's over btw
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I can update this table periodically as Elon starts to unban more and more people. 9.8% restoration so far. Obviously this ignores the countless unknown plebs that have been banned. Only the famous elites are in this one (sourced from Wiki's list here).
Greens are good! That means Elon is keeping to his promises. Pale red are neutral - Elon has yet to unban these.
But deep red is bad. This means Elon is being hypocritical. We want as few of these as possible.
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Summary: iCloud for Windows is corrupting videos recorded from an iPhone 14 pro max resulting in black videos with scan lines. On rare occasions, it is inserting stills into videos from unknown sources, possibly other's iCloud accounts. I've been shown photos of other people's families I've never seen in my life, soccer games, and other random photos. Obviously, this is extremely concerning and does not exactly make me feel safe using iCloud.
I reported it to the apple security team and they told me it wasn't a "security concern"! Can you believe that?
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My firstborn child died in my arms. I felt his last heartbeat.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 21, 2022
I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame.
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A person I have known for more than ten years, who I consider trustworthy, is convinced the cryptocurrency economy will shortly experience a systemic risk. I don’t know anything concrete, but if I were exposed, I would be concerned.
— Paul Graham (@paulg) November 20, 2022
A person I have known for more than ten years, who I consider trustworthy, is convinced the Bingus economy will shortly experience a systemic risk. I don’t know anything concrete, but if I were exposed, I would be concerned.
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A former advertising sales manager who worked at Twitter until last week tells Fortune that the tweet may come back to bite Musk, and cause the site’s biggest advertisers to suspend—or continue suspending—their marketing on the platform. He and his team were earlier bombarded with questions about what Musk’s policy was on Trump’s return, with concerns from advertisers assuaged only when Twitter sales staff could point to Musk’s Oct. 28 declaration that no decisions would be made without oversight of an independent council.
“I saw the question asked, especially early after the acquisition,” he says. “But Elon’s promise of not making decisions like that until he had convened a content moderation council before reinstating any banned users seemed to help. Of course, now we know how that turned out.”
Melissa Ingle, a former senior data scientist working as a contractor for Twitter focused specifically on civic integrity until earlier this month, tells Fortune that the reinstatement of Trump undoes the platform’s hard work. “Elon Musk’s decision to let Trump back on the platform is incredibly upsetting,” she says. “We all worked very hard to keep the platform safe for people to use.”
Ingle is concerned that the former president will act as a lightning rod, attracting others who seek to spread disinformation and sow division. “Donald Trump attracted and amplified the most extreme content and conspiracy theories,” she says. “He was banned because he instigated an insurrection and tried to interfere with the free and fair elections of our country. His return is an example of the growing toxicity and abuse on the platform since Musk’s acquisition and will have serious consequences for our democracy.”
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I'm getting ads on a meta platform for a product that I have not viewed in any capacity besides in an internally-distributed work pdf on a work computer in a browser that I don't use for anything personal/tied to my non-work identity. I've checked my history in all of my browsers; my only connection to this product whatsoever is this internal pdf that I downloaded from an internal/nonpublic work server.
Assuming they aren't listening to my microphone the only explanations I can think of are that they know I was on a specific local network and subnet at the same time as coworkers that were probably googling said product, or that meta has broken Chrome's sandbox. Or they have a tracking pixel embedded in our internal site.
It's possible I'm missing something obvious but this seems incredibly sus.