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IIRC Sten became the next Arishok after DA2? I wish we could have seen him in Inquisition, but I feel like he's too non-PC to come back in the franchise. Wokeists can't even depict villains as something-phobe, let alone a good guy.
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ChudGaper 2mo ago#6985642
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She wasn't even that racist, she thought maybe earth shouldn't start bootlicking the one-world government where the species that fought humans is on the security council and humanity isn't
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Ashley was right about everything lmao. Her main belief was that aliens would put their own species before others in a crisis, even if they genuinely believed in the Council. "If you get attacked by a bear, you'll sic your dog to save yourself. Doesn't mean you don't love your dog."
Mass Effect 3 proves her right since every alien refuses to help out until you've solved all their domestic problems. Half the time they created their own problems in the first place.
I thought they fixated on that one line on the citadel where Ashley says you can't tell the animals apart from the aliens or something, maybe I'm misremembering.
It's a throwaway line towards the beginning and you can see her open up to aliens later on. The ME1 writers tried to include the complex perspective of someone whose family fought in the a literal first contact war with aliens and was politically raked over the coals for not doing well, trying to adjust to this multi-racial environment. She's genuinely a great character and gets shit on for not realizing the 22nd century aliens would basically have the same values as 21st century millennials.
Tbh it's sad that a character from a 2007 game is written in a more nuanced way than many modern games... and even then though I really like it mass effect 1 is still mass market level writing quality
Tbh with how Qunari view gender, I actually think this is interesting. What is her caste? Why doesn't it have a gender? That's a cool concept... if you're an actual dragon age fan
It was very clear if you played as a women, Sten just couldn't figure you out. You're a woman, you look like a woman and insist you're a woman, but you're also a warrior and a warriors are men. Iirc he eventually just decides you're a man regardless of what you say.
Then if gender was associated with role and he was confused by gender working outside their role, you'd think the quanari had a solution for genderquestionables. But then iron bull lectures you in 3 when you ask him what is a woman. In between the dragon age games, has there been a quanari schism over gender and these veilguard characters' appearances are explained in game as the new regime's official gender expressions?
Then if gender was associated with role and he was confused by gender working outside their role, you'd think the quanari had a solution for genderquestionables
Bullying.
Iron Bull continues the same thing Sten does, he's just more used to the alien culture then him. Man Bull is less fun than Sten.
Also pretty interesting character concept! In a society that ties gender and caste so closely together, this chick who clearly wants to be close to her heritage is literally nothing. It reminds me of Magnus from Arcanum.
I mean it's modern Bioware so it will be shit, but the idea isn't a terrible one.
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Not likely, seeing as the inspiration for these characters often comes from the mirror.
I for one await the time when we can finally accept horned women with receding hairlines as true images of beauty. Also obese scaly women with lazy eyes that point in different directions... so hot
You say this and i guarantee if you post other standards of beauty most would at least agree they're attractive. People are attracted to things because they have good genes. The characters these dumbasses design looks like it'd pop a tard baby.
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Miffin 2mo ago#6984847
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!losers get in, we're going to get cute Iranian girlfriends
Dont worry, thanks to modern efforts your feeble easily brainwashed mind will be saying "at least ten years ago video game girls were hot!" While pointing at the lady in this game.
And are trying to desexualize races and species which were created mostly for fan service
That's why Qunari, like Asari got uglier each game
Both of these were very fanservicy to begin with and thus attractive
One were a blue, bisexual and horny, all female alien race.
Other - obviously dominatrix type of a species, like Drow, but with attractive males, also and more muscular and tall women.
Qunari were little less of a obvious fanservice compared to Asari and many women played Inquisition so there at least was a 'hot' male Qunari follower in that game.
Thus at least with inquisition - it one could say that Male characters were still attractive for the girls and the gays.
And post about hypocrisy of it all
But looking at the followers in the newest Veilguard game?
Idk - one male and one female character can be considered good looking
Others are mid or fugly
And it boggles my mind, why?
For people, who care for romances in vydia - None of them want to romance fugly characters
Same with people who care much about character creation
Most of 'girlg*mers' I've seen posting their characters in multiple rpg games online, they are trying to make them attractive
Apparently sell, so good for them, I applaud them that they managed to find someone to make money off other than straight dudes.
One thing I dislike the fanbase and devs for doing is - still pretending they are not catering to their new top buying demographic and reeeing about oh, no only an incel would find her or him ugly.
Just go with it like other games did.
It's like with remakes of movies - Own it twats, or do you need that chinese and middle east market that much
If anything Bioware went too deep into fan service. Now nearly every major companion is frickable regardless of orientation. The romances barely have relevance to the main story as they're all literally "Press Heart dialogue option enough times to unlock s*x scene!"
This all peaked with ME: Citadel, which was fine as a culmination of a 3 part series but became the standard for the kind of player worshipping fan service the devs would get into.
DaO had Alistair, DA2 had Hawke himself as the attractive male in whatever romance you put him in and Inquisition had Cullen and Blackwall. Dorian was a fun character though not my type appearance wise. This game has Lucanis I guess? Though I really doubt he'll be much more than a tired cliché. Man this game is a bit depressing in the character section.
That bioware made female characters of two species specifically created by former devs as fanservice less attractive in an attempt to desexualize them.
Which is not always a bad thing
That they still had hot dudes in inquisition to attract female or gay male fan base?
Which is not a bad thing, look how many women and gay dudes play BG3
Or that both male and female followers are mostly ugly by comparison in Veilguard and some look like a racial caricature a righthoid would make?
People at the top desperately knowing they need to shift/grow their customer base and for some reason listening to ideologically driven r-slurs who say the only way forward is appealing to uggos and s.
Why the money people trust the r-slurs, who knows. Maybe they've always trusted r-slurs and made money by coincidence, maybe they're sucked into the ideology too, maybe black rock DEI initiatives have so filled the ranks with r-slurs that there are few non-r-slurs to give good opinions.
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The Quanari were entirely and utterly ruined in inquisition when they made them playable but with no options to actually roleplay as one. Any mystique they had was destroyed. Idk why they even bother bringing them back to this game.
TBH I think it was pretty clear that DA:I was probably originally meant to be played as Human and Elf only since the story is tied mostly around those two races (Humans with the Chantry and the Dalish Elves with Solas, the Orlesian Dales, the Veil stuff and the late game + Tresspaser DLC pretty much focus on the elven pantheon)) but then they decided to add in Dwarves and Qunari in because people complained so much about being locked in as Hawke in DA2.
DA2 had the best story in all of DA (yes even origins) as well as the best character relationships system (friend vs rival) specifically because the writers made the story scope much smaller than the previous "save the world" titles.
It was only really held back by the lack of actual gameplay and environment development.
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I've only played Origin. Is anything else worth playing in the series?
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Where the frick is Sten anyway?
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A true Chad would have banged Wynn's old butt.
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Zevrancels be like
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IIRC Sten became the next Arishok after DA2? I wish we could have seen him in Inquisition, but I feel like he's too non-PC to come back in the franchise. Wokeists can't even depict villains as something-phobe, let alone a good guy.
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Remember how Ashley from Mass Effect was a space racist. IIRC you could get her to change her ways to be more accepting of big black alien peepee.
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She wasn't even that racist, she thought maybe earth shouldn't start bootlicking the one-world government where the species that fought humans is on the security council and humanity isn't
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Ashley was right about everything lmao. Her main belief was that aliens would put their own species before others in a crisis, even if they genuinely believed in the Council. "If you get attacked by a bear, you'll sic your dog to save yourself. Doesn't mean you don't love your dog."
Mass Effect 3 proves her right since every alien refuses to help out until you've solved all their domestic problems. Half the time they created their own problems in the first place.
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And amazingly the "reading literacy"people tought that Ashley saying "aliens see humans as a dog" meant she thought that aliens were dogs
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I thought they fixated on that one line on the citadel where Ashley says you can't tell the animals apart from the aliens or something, maybe I'm misremembering.
It's a throwaway line towards the beginning and you can see her open up to aliens later on. The ME1 writers tried to include the complex perspective of someone whose family fought in the a literal first contact war with aliens and was politically raked over the coals for not doing well, trying to adjust to this multi-racial environment. She's genuinely a great character and gets shit on for not realizing the 22nd century aliens would basically have the same values as 21st century millennials.
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They also dislike that line yeah
Tbh it's sad that a character from a 2007 game is written in a more nuanced way than many modern games... and even then though I really like it mass effect 1 is still mass market level writing quality
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Did you smash tho?
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They're better be more cookie stealing from fat frick kids in this next game.
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In previous games:
In art:
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Yup. They definitely replaced her with a .
Good move though. Because dragon age is such a shit game.
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Based. Dragon Age has been core since day one.
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Troll attempt 1/10, can and will sodomize.
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This was just an unfortunate graphical limitation.
Shame too
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I like the art deco one
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It's very good, gives a sense of beauty and power while also keeping them alien.
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So they made the enby hideous good job devs
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This is just in blueface
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This is pretty close to a lot of artists renditions of how George Washington looked when he was young
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Tbh with how Qunari view gender, I actually think this is interesting. What is her caste? Why doesn't it have a gender? That's a cool concept... if you're an actual dragon age fan
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Probably more for dragon age 3. Did they really go into gender before that? Didn't they imply in 1 that gender was associated with role?
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It was very clear if you played as a women, Sten just couldn't figure you out. You're a woman, you look like a woman and insist you're a woman, but you're also a warrior and a warriors are men. Iirc he eventually just decides you're a man regardless of what you say.
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Then if gender was associated with role and he was confused by gender working outside their role, you'd think the quanari had a solution for genderquestionables. But then iron bull lectures you in 3 when you ask him what is a woman. In between the dragon age games, has there been a quanari schism over gender and these veilguard characters' appearances are explained in game as the new regime's official gender expressions?
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Of course not, it's just presentism. The only question is how long and hectoring will the dialogue be to justify the change.
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Bullying.
Iron Bull continues the same thing Sten does, he's just more used to the alien culture then him. Man Bull is less fun than Sten.
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IDK about any of that but I like your pfp.
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So it's just like real life where being nonbinary automatically makes you interesting
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She was never raised under the Qun if I recall correctly
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Also pretty interesting character concept! In a society that ties gender and caste so closely together, this chick who clearly wants to be close to her heritage is literally nothing. It reminds me of Magnus from Arcanum.
I mean it's modern Bioware so it will be shit, but the idea isn't a terrible one.
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Yeah but Iron Bull apparently has a gigantic peepee.
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Why does She look kinda good in the first pic and turns hideous in the second
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are game devs blind nowadays lol
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Not likely, seeing as the inspiration for these characters often comes from the mirror.
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Its funny how chuds dont even realize they've j st been programmed to think western beauty standards are the only kind of beauty
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I for one await the time when we can finally accept horned women with receding hairlines as true images of beauty. Also obese scaly women with lazy eyes that point in different directions... so hot
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Whats the point of banging a horned woman if she cant use them to stimulate the prostate?
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This is not a beauty standard anywhere
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i dont mind them adhering to South Korean beauty standards
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Counterpoint: find 5 modern (From 2019 onwards) western games that DON'T challenge the so called "dominant standards"
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As soon as you can name why that would be a problem sweetie
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What I'm saying is, if no game is upholding a specific set of standards, are them even standards?
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Yes, because there are still incels complaining that a non traditionally attractive, yet still very attractive, woman is in their game
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You say this and i guarantee if you post other standards of beauty most would at least agree they're attractive. People are attracted to things because they have good genes. The characters these dumbasses design looks like it'd pop a tard baby.
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How about old persian beauty standards?. The only reason you dont think this lady is pretty is because you are brainwashed not to.
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volcel if you wouldn't
!losers get in, we're going to get cute Iranian girlfriends
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No wonder they're r*pefugees
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I mean I bet that dude got tons of chicks y'know?
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Dont worry, thanks to modern efforts your feeble easily brainwashed mind will be saying "at least ten years ago video game girls were hot!" While pointing at the lady in this game.
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This is actually the most r-slurred cope lol
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Ok sweetie, remember me when you are complaining about this still in ten years while defending the beauty of the fine lady above
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I am man enough to admit i was wrong. But that creature is ugly. And you might be gay.
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Yes anon. I am sure Oogbutu from Swahililand wants to crank it to her rather than a Latinx from Colombia.
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Blinded by virtue
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It looks like a dude.
He was joking, right?
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Yeah, it's impossible to guess that's a fricking woman. There's literally nothing feminine about 'her'
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"If only you knew how bad things really are".
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It honestly looks like a badly done face swap
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This comment got jannied. Why even use reddit when you're only allowed to repeat janny opinions and nothing else
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It's so obvious what new bioware is doing
They are trying to lure new userbase
And are trying to desexualize races and species which were created mostly for fan service
That's why Qunari, like Asari got uglier each game
Both of these were very fanservicy to begin with and thus attractive
One were a blue, bisexual and horny, all female alien race.
Other - obviously dominatrix type of a species, like Drow, but with attractive males, also and more muscular and tall women.
Qunari were little less of a obvious fanservice compared to Asari and many women played Inquisition so there at least was a 'hot' male Qunari follower in that game.
Thus at least with inquisition - it one could say that Male characters were still attractive for the girls and the gays.
And post about hypocrisy of it all
But looking at the followers in the newest Veilguard game?
Idk - one male and one female character can be considered good looking
Others are mid or fugly
And it boggles my mind, why?
For people, who care for romances in vydia - None of them want to romance fugly characters
Same with people who care much about character creation
Most of 'girlg*mers' I've seen posting their characters in multiple rpg games online, they are trying to make them attractive
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They service other fans they attracted since DAII
Queer and straight women and femboys
Apparently sell, so good for them, I applaud them that they managed to find someone to make money off other than straight dudes.
One thing I dislike the fanbase and devs for doing is - still pretending they are not catering to their new top buying demographic and reeeing about oh, no only an incel would find her or him ugly.
Just go with it like other games did.
It's like with remakes of movies - Own it twats, or do you need that chinese and middle east market that much
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Apparently it was like 50 50 on last Dragon age game
Women liked it like the Sims
Again it's okay, make and play your games, buy millions of copies of it
Pbut don't pretend that you still do equal fan service for everyone.
somehow on supposedly inclusive online spaces, it's always the dude g*mers fault
It's either, 'you are insecure if you don't want to play as a butch lesbian'
Or if you play and still critique the game for other legitimate reason and not that it has da gays
They say
'this game wasn't made for you, don't play it'
'fine'
'noo, return or I will call you sexist'
But just go and open any 'girlg*mer' forum and you will see hundreds of post like this
'i refuse to play or support a game if it has only male protagonist'
Ironically even if he is a queer or a racial minority or both
Girl g*mers were mad at both ac syndicate, which still had canonically existing male protagonist ( he was first bi male protagonist in AAA title btw)
And Mirage ( for a middle eastern man as a protagonist)
If those were comments made in male forum they would be marked as racist and biphobic
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If anything Bioware went too deep into fan service. Now nearly every major companion is frickable regardless of orientation. The romances barely have relevance to the main story as they're all literally "Press Heart dialogue option enough times to unlock s*x scene!"
This all peaked with ME: Citadel, which was fine as a culmination of a 3 part series but became the standard for the kind of player worshipping fan service the devs would get into.
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DaO had Alistair, DA2 had Hawke himself as the attractive male in whatever romance you put him in and Inquisition had Cullen and Blackwall. Dorian was a fun character though not my type appearance wise. This game has Lucanis I guess? Though I really doubt he'll be much more than a tired cliché. Man this game is a bit depressing in the character section.
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Id argue that both male and female characters in Vielguard all look fully af
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This is why we need Goobergator geniocide.
You'll be the first on the cattle car.
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What was so goobergatory in my post
That bioware made female characters of two species specifically created by former devs as fanservice less attractive in an attempt to desexualize them.
Which is not always a bad thing
That they still had hot dudes in inquisition to attract female or gay male fan base?
Which is not a bad thing, look how many women and gay dudes play BG3
Or that both male and female followers are mostly ugly by comparison in Veilguard and some look like a racial caricature a righthoid would make?
Which is bad
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People at the top desperately knowing they need to shift/grow their customer base and for some reason listening to ideologically driven r-slurs who say the only way forward is appealing to uggos and s.
Why the money people trust the r-slurs, who knows. Maybe they've always trusted r-slurs and made money by coincidence, maybe they're sucked into the ideology too, maybe black rock DEI initiatives have so filled the ranks with r-slurs that there are few non-r-slurs to give good opinions.
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That's supposed to be female?
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The Quanari were entirely and utterly ruined in inquisition when they made them playable but with no options to actually roleplay as one. Any mystique they had was destroyed. Idk why they even bother bringing them back to this game.
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TBH I think it was pretty clear that DA:I was probably originally meant to be played as Human and Elf only since the story is tied mostly around those two races (Humans with the Chantry and the Dalish Elves with Solas, the Orlesian Dales, the Veil stuff and the late game + Tresspaser DLC pretty much focus on the elven pantheon)) but then they decided to add in Dwarves and Qunari in because people complained so much about being locked in as Hawke in DA2.
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DA2 had the best story in all of DA (yes even origins) as well as the best character relationships system (friend vs rival) specifically because the writers made the story scope much smaller than the previous "save the world" titles.
It was only really held back by the lack of actual gameplay and environment development.
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Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1faj0zk/folks_i_think_its_the_hairline/:
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Thats a woman?
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Where drama
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I invented it
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Could have at least given us one waifu
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I've only played Origin. Is anything else worth playing in the series?
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I want her to unga bunga my peepee
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