Etrian Odyssey 4 - I don't like how vague the in game skill descriptions are, but the Etrian Odyssey battle system is undeniably detailed.
Best Open World
Might & Magic II. It's a definite step up over the first one, and the player is given an impressive amount of freedom to explore.
Best Storytelling
Uhh... tricky one. This is a bit thin on the ground. Most games are light on story, and the ones that do have it like Zanki Zero, Refrain, Galleria & Mary Skelter are inevitably full of anime tropes.
I'll just put Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos for the heck of it.
Knowles of Gortesh? Now that's storytelling.
Best Atmosphere
Anvil of Dawn. This game is maybe shit, but the atmosphere is second to none.
Best Art Direction
Ishar 2 - Messengers of Doom can be very pretty even if the faces are a bit bogged (Ishar 3 was a step back)
Most Overrated
Labyrinth of Refrain - It tries to do something different, but doesn't really achieve what it's aiming for. Also the interface is bad and managing equipment for a party of 15 is a nightmare.
Most Underrated
Knightmare, barely remembered these days. Apparently this was a tie-in to the Bonglish children's TV show, although I barely see a connection.
Most Addictive
Another tricky category. I'll say the Might & Magic Xeen duology. They're straightforward enough to play, but appealing enough to draw you back in.
Most Stressful
Wizardry 4, obviously.
Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei (the first game, not 'shin') is also worth mentioning for practically demanding a guide to play. How are you even supposed to figure out how vital gnomes are to moving around the fusion chart without copious note-taking? How do you know which combination of gems will revive the goddess? You don't! Buy the strategy guide, gaijin.
Most Relaxing
Dungeon Master for retro comfyness.
And I guess Grimrock is pretty chill.
Best Multiplayer
Uh... Bloodwych, I guess?
I think I played this once.
Best Soundtrack
I'm tempted to put Anvil of Dawn again, but that would be boring.
Frick it. I didn't want to have to do this, but Mary Skelter: Nightmares
Please kill me
Best Gameplay
I think we all know it's Wizardry 7.
Best Level Dungeon Design
Elminage Gothic strikes me as being the most thoughtfully designed.
Get the frick outta here. If they mean game quality? Still fricking no, how is this the greatest open world?
>best storytelling
Holy frick reddit incarnate. I want to play Disco Elysium but the fanatics are so fricking annoying they act like its the first game to ever have a story.
>Best atmosphere
Kind of a nebulous term but I mean I guess.
>best art direction
Maybe in the UI? The characters and levels are just fine. I wouldn't call it amazing, serviceable yeah. There's so many other games that should have a chance over that shit.
>most overrated
GTAV, yeah we're dealing with redditors. This is such an r-slured opinion. I don't even like GTAV that much but overrated as compared to what? Itself?
I hate this whole fricking list and anyone who participated in it should be gassed. Look at all the recency bias and small scope. I bet you bottom dollar these cute twinks haven't even played most of these. They're just saying what they think they should be.
Edit: Don't hide behind reports, show your hands kitty @Elias_Acorn
You realize I can have opinions that don't line up 1:1 with the popular opinion right? It doesn't mean I'm being contrarian explicitly, just that I disagree. Just because I don't typically like the billboard hot 100 songs doesn't mean I hate popular music.
You dismissing it by saying "hah contrarian" is as half assed as you accuse me of being.
I'm not dealing with someone arguing in good faith. I refuse to enact the emotional labor to reply to your blatant sealioning any further. Consider this my resignation.
I personally play 3d Zelda for a satisfying cinematic 30-45 hour fairly-condensed adventure, Botw and Totk stretches it's interesting content across way to much repetitive tasks and traveling
The shrines in particular could have been condensed into a few interesting dungeons instead of spread out all over the world. I never played ToTK, too much about BotW either bored or frustrated me so I never bothered.
Ah OK lol, that makes sense. Agreed though, the world is wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. It's an impressive world and there's a real sense of scale. But that's like all there is to it outside of some small distractions.
Yeah, I replayed Majoras Mask via the PC port after Totk and it impressive me how densely packed interesting side content was in that games versus Tears having you do a random copy paste bokoblin camp or sign-man puzzle for like 70% of your game time
GTAV, yeah we're dealing with redditors. This is such an r-slured opinion. I don't even like GTAV that much but overrated as compared to what? Itself?
GTA V was shit and I couldn't play it for more than 10 hours it was so fricking boring.
The missions were butt, the characters were butt, the soundtrack was godawful and the worst of any GTA i've played. I really don't have high hopes for VI.
That being said, it's still not most overrated. That 100% belongs to Star Citizen.
Star Citizen is only overrated by smug europeans with autism though
"what do you mean it's a scam, I mean I play it online every weekend, yeah it's not perfect, sometimes you fall through the planet when you're walking through a door or whatever but they've only had 10+ years so far to do something NO ONE has ever done before"
Oh don't get me wrong GTA V is my least favorite GTA. But I dont see how it's most overrated. Just because people play it a lot doesn't mean people think it's 10/10. Just that it's popular.
Is there anything particularly wrong with this list? Looks like exactly what I expected from a Reddit list except I'm sure they're saving Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley for the relaxing category
I guess not but it really shows how little depth supposed "g*mers" have in their tastes. I should expect that but these cute twinks pride themselves on having discerning taste but they're just self-important normies.
If you got people to take a similar poll seriously here, the results would be more or less the same. It's a popularity contest and popular games win. Some weird indie game that nobody's ever heard of is never going to win no matter how good it is.
Dramacels then take this list and make fun of it due to being strict contrarians with no actual beliefs
I agree that P5 has good art direction but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. It stands tall on the shoulders of prior titles in the franchise which all had their own distinct color palette and style, P5 doesn't deserve an award for doing the same with new colors, fonts, and music
Same with gameplay, I had a friend who doesn't play JRPGs tell me that Persona 5 innovated on the genre because you could use weaknesses to "break" enemies
Apparently it's a good game but the director pisses me off with his interviews because he like "The JRPG genre is boring and stagnant and here is how we innovated" and then proceed to list things many games have done since past the 16 bit era
His original idea was to go proper fantasy since he thought that urban fantasy had become the norm rather than the exception in media. But then the game took so long to come out that the reverse was now true thanks to isekaislop driving a lot of otaku media to generic fantasy. At least he has kind of an interesting hook where in the fantasy world their version of fantasy literature is just basically our world. The demo made me want to play the whole thing but not right away.
I'm mainly talking gameplay wise but still Fire Emblem has been doing the same thing for god knows how many years so political fantasy isn't as orginal as he claims lol
I'm up to act 2 with a soldier/pyromancer. You have 2 skills. Firestorm literally can't even be used half the time so your entire kit is point, click, reset skills, click, end turn The most interesting part is when I lose half health while having cover and Argentina needs to stop shooting and fricking fix it
Not really. It's become reddit-core. Especially after bloober team's remake. So many self important r-slurs release 30 hour video essays "deconstructing" silent hill 2 saying it's their favorite to seem smart.
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Best Combat System
Etrian Odyssey 4 - I don't like how vague the in game skill descriptions are, but the Etrian Odyssey battle system is undeniably detailed.
Best Open World
Might & Magic II. It's a definite step up over the first one, and the player is given an impressive amount of freedom to explore.
Best Storytelling
Uhh... tricky one. This is a bit thin on the ground. Most games are light on story, and the ones that do have it like Zanki Zero, Refrain, Galleria & Mary Skelter are inevitably full of anime tropes.
I'll just put Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos for the heck of it.
Knowles of Gortesh? Now that's storytelling.
Best Atmosphere
Anvil of Dawn. This game is maybe shit, but the atmosphere is second to none.
Best Art Direction
Ishar 2 - Messengers of Doom can be very pretty even if the faces are a bit bogged (Ishar 3 was a step back)
Most Overrated
Labyrinth of Refrain - It tries to do something different, but doesn't really achieve what it's aiming for. Also the interface is bad and managing equipment for a party of 15 is a nightmare.
Most Underrated
Knightmare, barely remembered these days. Apparently this was a tie-in to the Bonglish children's TV show, although I barely see a connection.
Most Addictive
Another tricky category. I'll say the Might & Magic Xeen duology. They're straightforward enough to play, but appealing enough to draw you back in.
Most Stressful
Wizardry 4, obviously.
Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei (the first game, not 'shin') is also worth mentioning for practically demanding a guide to play. How are you even supposed to figure out how vital gnomes are to moving around the fusion chart without copious note-taking? How do you know which combination of gems will revive the goddess? You don't! Buy the strategy guide, gaijin.
Most Relaxing
Dungeon Master for retro comfyness.
And I guess Grimrock is pretty chill.
Best Multiplayer
Uh... Bloodwych, I guess?
I think I played this once.
Best Soundtrack
I'm tempted to put Anvil of Dawn again, but that would be boring.
Frick it. I didn't want to have to do this, but Mary Skelter: Nightmares
Please kill me
Best Gameplay
I think we all know it's Wizardry 7.
Best
LevelDungeon DesignElminage Gothic strikes me as being the most thoughtfully designed.
Biggest Emotional Impact
Grimoire, Heralds of the Winged Exemplar
He did it! Cleve won
Sapes lost!
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Whoa, did I accidentally log onto RPG Codex? Why does it suddenly look like rDrama?
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I'm sure that made sense in your head, so thanks for contributing your thoughts
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why is there so much weebshit and ancient nonsense here??
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Even I don't play this shit.
But I do get immense enjoyment out of Cleve Blakemore's shitposting.
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jesus christ how old are you neighbor?
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This is incredibly neurodivergent but incredibly unique, A+ for effort.
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Sekiro? Eh arguable but not a bad choice.
Get the frick outta here. If they mean game quality? Still fricking no, how is this the greatest open world?
Holy frick reddit incarnate. I want to play Disco Elysium but the fanatics are so fricking annoying they act like its the first game to ever have a story.
Kind of a nebulous term but I mean I guess.
Maybe in the UI? The characters and levels are just fine. I wouldn't call it amazing, serviceable yeah. There's so many other games that should have a chance over that shit.
GTAV, yeah we're dealing with redditors. This is such an r-slured opinion. I don't even like GTAV that much but overrated as compared to what? Itself?
I hate this whole fricking list and anyone who participated in it should be gassed. Look at all the recency bias and small scope. I bet you bottom dollar these cute twinks haven't even played most of these. They're just saying what they think they should be.
Edit: Don't hide behind reports, show your hands kitty
@Elias_Acorn
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There it is folks : the famed "reddit likes it so it sucks" who somehow believes he's an independent thinker.
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Hey look everyone the independent thinker who thinks he's being different by calling out a common trope.
Media literacy is your specialty
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I don't let my judgment become clouded by mindless contrarianism, therefore my opinion is more valuable than yours
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It's amazing you can write while having worms in you brain. The lack of critical thinking is incredible.
Tell me, wrestling's fake right?
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Oh I'm in to it.
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Boy, that is one completely unrelated topic. I'm almost curious to know where you're going with that. Almost.
If you have nothing to defend your r-slurred opinions, just say so.
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You realize I can have opinions that don't line up 1:1 with the popular opinion right? It doesn't mean I'm being contrarian explicitly, just that I disagree. Just because I don't typically like the billboard hot 100 songs doesn't mean I hate popular music.
You dismissing it by saying "hah contrarian" is as half assed as you accuse me of being.
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Your unconscious bias is showing, sweaty. Do better. I bet you're some sort of chud, too. Yikes.
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I'm not dealing with someone arguing in good faith. I refuse to enact the emotional labor to reply to your blatant sealioning any further. Consider this my resignation.
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GTA 5 unironically has a better
open world, even if over rated
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At the very least it's open world is far more interesting than TotK. Sure it's a beautiful world but it's functionally empty compared to other games.
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I personally play 3d Zelda for a satisfying cinematic 30-45 hour fairly-condensed adventure, Botw and Totk stretches it's interesting content across way to much repetitive tasks and traveling
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The shrines in particular could have been condensed into a few interesting dungeons instead of spread out all over the world. I never played ToTK, too much about BotW either bored or frustrated me so I never bothered.
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Tear is just basically Breath tbh so you're not missing much
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30-45 hours??
you reading with your finger under the words too?
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For 100%, which is what I enjoy doing in Zelda Games
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Ah OK lol, that makes sense. Agreed though, the world is wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. It's an impressive world and there's a real sense of scale. But that's like all there is to it outside of some small distractions.
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Yeah, I replayed Majoras Mask via the PC port after Totk and it impressive me how densely packed interesting side content was in that games versus Tears having you do a random copy paste bokoblin camp or sign-man puzzle for like 70% of your game time
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shrines made me quit BOTW
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Nobody cares about your opinion, BIPOC
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GTA V was shit and I couldn't play it for more than 10 hours it was so fricking boring.
The missions were butt, the characters were butt, the soundtrack was godawful and the worst of any GTA i've played. I really don't have high hopes for VI.
That being said, it's still not most overrated. That 100% belongs to Star Citizen.
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Star Citizen is only overrated by smug europeans with autism though
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Nah, there's plenty of games that are infinitely more overrated. Most indie darlings, darn near every GOTY, every FOTM game, and so on.
Personally? I'd put Nier: Automata as most overrated.
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Oh don't get me wrong GTA V is my least favorite GTA. But I dont see how it's most overrated. Just because people play it a lot doesn't mean people think it's 10/10. Just that it's popular.
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Is there anything particularly wrong with this list? Looks like exactly what I expected from a Reddit list except I'm sure they're saving Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley for the relaxing category
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It's safe, uncontroversial. Redditors want to feel protected and welcome, their natural enemy is the downdoot
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When people are voting for shit "uncontroversial" tends to get an advantage, I wonder why that is
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It's really just a list of video games that aren't too problematic in the slightest.
Not a single game that you could say is transphobic or racist. Very safe choice.
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Botw has a pervert cross dresser who has 5oclock shadow.
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Also they have a kid fricking their guardian (mom).
I'm not even really mad about that, but it's not really something that you should really be advertising.
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In a world where Nioh 2 and DMC5 exist, Sekiro for combat system is dumb. Outside of that, pretty normal list.
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It's a terrible list for "best" games.
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I guess not but it really shows how little depth supposed "g*mers" have in their tastes. I should expect that but these cute twinks pride themselves on having discerning taste but they're just self-important normies.
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If you got people to take a similar poll seriously here, the results would be more or less the same. It's a popularity contest and popular games win. Some weird indie game that nobody's ever heard of is never going to win no matter how good it is.
Dramacels then take this list and make fun of it due to being strict contrarians with no actual beliefs
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I just wander hoping to find someone with actually good taste in games. Still waiting.
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Like it's pretty to look at and all but I don't think I'd go that far.
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I agree that P5 has good art direction but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. It stands tall on the shoulders of prior titles in the franchise which all had their own distinct color palette and style, P5 doesn't deserve an award for doing the same with new colors, fonts, and music
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For real I'm insulted. Katamari Damacy, Jet Grind Radio, Muramasa, Okami, etc etc.
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It's probably a lot of people's first exposure to something that's actually stylized and not just realismslop. Same with its music.
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It disgusts me on a primal level. Filthy fricking casuals. Play more games
Although considering P5s fanbase I doubt they've even played P5 anyways.
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Same with gameplay, I had a friend who doesn't play JRPGs tell me that Persona 5 innovated on the genre because you could use weaknesses to "break" enemies
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I could feel my eye twitch anytime someone praised Metaphor's battle system as being innovative when it's just Press Turn with a few new additions.
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Apparently it's a good game but the director pisses me off with his interviews because he like "The JRPG genre is boring and stagnant and here is how we innovated" and then proceed to list things many games have done since past the 16 bit era
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His original idea was to go proper fantasy since he thought that urban fantasy had become the norm rather than the exception in media. But then the game took so long to come out that the reverse was now true thanks to isekaislop driving a lot of otaku media to generic fantasy. At least he has kind of an interesting hook where in the fantasy world their version of fantasy literature is just basically our world. The demo made me want to play the whole thing but not right away.
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I'm mainly talking gameplay wise but still Fire Emblem has been doing the same thing for god knows how many years so political fantasy isn't as orginal as he claims lol
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Fire Emblem mentioned
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God I hate Persona 5 fans.
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Rogue Trader isn't there, death to redditors and/or communists
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Rogue Trader classes are so boring, if it wasn't 40k game would be mid. Even the trailer for Xcoom 2 looked more interesting gameplay-wise
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I'm up to act 2 with a soldier/pyromancer. You have 2 skills. Firestorm literally can't even be used half the time so your entire kit is point, click, reset skills, click, end turn
The most interesting part is when I lose half health while having cover and Argentina needs to stop shooting and fricking fix it
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get molten beam cuck
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I CAN'T the game never tells you to upgrade psy rating. Psyker Majoris is unlockable at 14 so you don't get Molten Beam until Act 2
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Just play Bladedancer and r*pe everything to death before they even get a turn
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REEEE
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cry more poorcel
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How is the DLC is it good
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I thought it was truly good - a lot of focus on infiltration of your Voidship
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I played the opening of disco elysium and almost died of cringe. The nihilism is so over the top I couldn't take it seriously.
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Neighbor this list is honestly as good as it gets I highly doubt rdrama's list would be better
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Didn't play didn't play didn't play didn't play didn't play did play 5/5
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same but didn't play any of them
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Silent Hill 2 getting anything is a pleasant surprise tbh.
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Not really. It's become reddit-core. Especially after bloober team's remake. So many self important r-slurs release 30 hour video essays "deconstructing" silent hill 2 saying it's their favorite to seem smart.
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I'll be sure to never read/watch any if that so I can continue liking it.
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Save your sanity. Avoid it all costs lol.
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Didn't play any of those gaymes
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Lmao reddit being predictable as usual, should we bet on what the next titles will be?
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Undertale for best soundtrack, Animal Crossing New Horizons for most relaxing, Minecraft for most addictive
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rollslop
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