conedno/no
if the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, its that girls should stick to girl sports.
16d ago#7676269
spent 0 currency on pings
it's going to be shocking when the declassified documents show it was owald acting alone.
conedno/no
if the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, its that girls should stick to girl sports.
Prophet-Kong 15d ago#7676872
spent 0 currency on pings
LOL i didn't even think of that. it's definitely what's gonna happen.
conedno/no
if the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, its that girls should stick to girl sports.
Zuzie 15d ago#7676823
spent 0 currency on pings
conedno/no
if the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, its that girls should stick to girl sports.
johannesalthusius 15d ago#7676868
spent 0 currency on pings
conedno/no
if the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, its that girls should stick to girl sports.
DickButtKiss 15d ago#7680795
spent 0 currency on pings
Sphereserf3232they/them
If this user asks you a question you get three days of good luck Chair 15d ago#7679209Found 72 Coins!
spent 0 currency on pings
This should occur to anyone schizo enough to believe there was a coverup. They think there's a conspiracy to kill the president involving hundreds of people, none of whom have ever confessed, but they trust a piece of paper as long as it says what they want.
Chairahoy/hoy
Jeb! centrist
15d ago#7677220
spent 0 currency on pings
If people are interested in how the law works here, the basic rule is that the president can declassify nearly anything, and he doesn't need to more than say "it's declassified." This but unironically:
Of course presidents don't do that because there's really good reasons for keeping secrets, like not giving up military advantages, or burning intelligence assets, or getting away with faking the oceans.
There are certain secrets (like nuclear stuff) that works differently by statute. Here are some nerds who stragged out over what the laws say.
Redactor0naori/oppa
Darklands shill, do not engage
syscoshill 15d ago#7676593
Edited 15d ago
spent 0 currency on pings
No there's still a list of stuff that has to be redacted:
25X1 - Sources and methods. This is by far the most common. This could be some high tech surveillance method that we don't want our enemies to find out about. But usually it's someone who spied for us or someone who just had a conversation with someone at the US Embassy and could get accused of spying for us. If it's a person then you've got to redact anything that can be used to personally identify them.
25X6 - Would damage diplomatic relations with foreign countries. I've seen this a few times. It means they have to reveal naughty things that the US government has done but not Britain, France, Israel, etc.
obvious stuff - How to build nukes, how to get past the Secret Service, how to break our codes, war plans, etc. Stuff that actual spies would be interested in. I hardly ever see these, probably because they wouldn't declassify the document to begin with if it was that important.
Jimmy Hoffa, perhaps the ur example of "corrupt union leader" in the modern era, famous missing person case (consensus is that the mob dissapeared him)
Because I'm reading this stuff right now. People wanted me to cover the various interrelated crises in the Middle East that happened in 1958 and it's really really complicated so I gotta do some research.
Unlike conspiracy tards I actually read declassified documents. One of the defining features of a conspiracy theorist is that they are extremely allergic to actually learning about the topic they supposedly care about. They just want to have an opinion because they saw something in a movie a long time ago.
In my day we watched the X-Files because it was fun but we knew it was fiction. These days the fate of the entire world is determined by r-slurs who can't tell the difference between a TV show and reality.
they have mandatory 25 and 50 year review intervals to declassify old documents, and they still redact certain information to make them unclassified
example, you can't include nuclear restricted data and weapons design, you can't reveal known weapon system vulnerabilities, you can't expose the methods used to gather intelligence, and you can't reveal the name of a spy or informant if they're alive a lot of the time
>Trump signs a piece of paper with the same legal force as a note that says "pretty please declassify these documents, PLEASE??" that the FBI and CIA ignores (none of them get fired because they're in a civil servant classification that protects them from it).
I mean kinda, because the president saying "pretty please declassy this" is sufficient legal authority for nearly all classified information. Of course the CIA are old hands at bureaucratic games of grabass, but they would be breaking the law.
That'd frick with our relationship with the Saudis too much right now. We need the Saudi-Israeli-Hyborea(formerly Iran) triumvirate to come into play by the end of his term.
Nah, it's the Saudis. Israelis probably are in the shits because they didn't warn us when they could have, but they can easily play the same "wasn't sure if it was credible intelligence" that glowies use. Every congressman who has made comments about what they say in the report mentions the Saudis.
Somebody(s) who is/are perfectly fine, unpunished, living their best royal lives, and hang out with the Saudis we actually deal with day to day - those somebodys whose names we wouldn't recognize, but a bunch of intelligence and diplomats would "oh frick", dumped a bunch of money and planning with Bin Laden in a very explicit 9/11 plan that they knew about ahead of time. It's somebody that, at the time, Saudi Arabia would never ever have held accountable or extradited because they were the king's first or favorite cousins or sons or frickboys or some shit, and the U.S. could not damage their relationship with the Saudis or OPEC that way without fricking the world sideways.
So... why did they hate the king and want to overthrow him? Why did they do all those suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia after 9-11? Why did the Saudi mukhabarat hunt down and kill Allah knows how many of them?
As far as conspiracy theories go, this one is pretty r-slurred. It relies on thinking that underground terrorist organizations must like the government of their country. They were from Saudi Arabia so they must love the Saudi king, right? Just like the IRA loves Britain, the Khalistan psychos loved Indira Ghandi, the Weathermen loved Nixon, the Shining Path loved the Peruvian government, etc...
As a general rule, terrorists usually are terrorists because they don't the government of their country. If there's additional evidence like them saying this directly constantly or hundreds of people being killed in fighting between them, those are also indications.
Every congressman who has made comments about what they say in the report mentions the Saudis.
On the other hand, maybe we should trust congressmen.
It's not an underground terrorist organization - it's rich adult children who funded terrorism and and left their r-slurred, inbred fingerprints on it. The actual conspiracy isn't that dramatic. Whatever they did though, glowies figured the general public and do-gooders and political allies and adversaries would see them up close to Bin Laden on the "already dead bastards who are responsible for killing 3000 Americans on our turf" scale. Maybe it wasn't even that "bad", but they haven't wanted to frick around with what would happen if everybody officially knew.
You have no idea wtf I'm talking about, do you? The al-Qaeda bombing campaign in Saudi Arabia in the early 2000s. Well, I'm just gonna ask you to trust me that I was alive back then and this is something that happened.
I watched The Kingdom, you pleb, so I know what you're talking about. Ashraf Barhom is a criminally misused actor.
The Saudi royal family overall and the Saudi "government" did not support al Qaeda. But there are a bunch of rich, useless royals, and some of them got sucked into some bullshit and wrote some checks and got some pictures of them running a train on a hooker with Bin Laden chanting "death to American infidels" or something.
No sexualizing minors, even as a joke. This includes cartoons.
No doxxing.
Using alts to game dramacoin will get you banned.
If you post screenshots of publicly-available content, make sure to also include links.
Supporting free speech is an immediate ban.
Absolutely NO anti-CCP sentiment.
Absolutely NO homophobia, transphobia or furphobia.
Absolutely NO misgendering.
Absolutely NO antisemitism.
Absolutely NO vaccine misinformation.
You are encouraged to post drama you are involved in.
You are encouraged to brigade in bad faith.
You are encouraged to gaslight, to gatekeep, above all else, to girlboss.
You are encouraged to egg people on to transition or otherwise make drastic life changes.
This site is a janny playground, participation implies enthusiastic consent to being janny abused by unstable alcoholic bullies who have nothing better to do than banning you for any reason or no reason whatsoever (MODS = GODS)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Lmao apparently he asked for the pen he used to sign the order be given to RFK Jr.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
!based
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
it's going to be shocking when the declassified documents show it was owald acting alone.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Either that or the entire doc is blacked out except for "JFK was shot"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Of course she fled the car instead of being by her husbands side 🙄🙄🙄 #hoe #whore #slut
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
She was reaching to pick up his brains dawg
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Wait what?![:marseygasp: :marseygasp:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseygasp.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah the last shot blew half his head off and she was attempting to grab a large chunk of it from the trunk in that photo
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
just to click it back together like legos...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Jackie Hoe🤔
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Now this is fricking some grade A FRICKING degeneracy
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
THICC
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
LOL i didn't even think of that. it's definitely what's gonna happen.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
JFK wasredacted by CIA redeacted because bananas redeacted from the country of redeacted
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Nancy Kennedy has a fatredacted and is jvdiciously bvilt for BKC !coomers
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Nancy?![:marseyconfused: :marseyconfused:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyconfused.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Pelosi
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
she do have some jugs...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Awwww
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
This guy redacts
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Redeacted x 4.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
x3,![https://media.tenor.com/mF0LcQHrNrsAAAAx/milkandmocha-bearcouple.webphttps://media.tenor.com/l7j4o_6VpCwAAAAx/cats-urik3852.webp](https://i.rdrama.net/i/l.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
True but they've been covering up the fact that he is black this whole time
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
He wuz gettin reparations and sheet
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
You think conspiratards will care?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
they won't.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
you srsly believe in the lone gunman theory???
trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
BACK AND TO THE LEFT. BACK. AND TO THE LEFT.![:hysterical: :hysterical:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/hysterical.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
u srsly believe in the lone gunman theory?
trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
no.
i believe the lone gunman fact.![:scoot: :scoot:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/scoot.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I'm really banking on it turning out that LBJ offed MLK to steal all the thunder for the Civil Rights Act
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
He'd totally have done it if he found out MLK's peepee was bigger than his.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Probably impossible
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Real question - are we to actually believe any of the documents at this point?
Documents have been forged since time immortal.
Images and even videos can be fully doctored in AI.
Who's to say what's released is real?
!schizos !schizomaxxxers
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
This should occur to anyone schizo enough to believe there was a coverup. They think there's a conspiracy to kill the president involving hundreds of people, none of whom have ever confessed, but they trust a piece of paper as long as it says what they want.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
If people are interested in how the law works here, the basic rule is that the president can declassify nearly anything, and he doesn't need to more than say "it's declassified." This but unironically:
Of course presidents don't do that because there's really good reasons for keeping secrets, like not giving up military advantages, or burning intelligence assets, or getting away with faking the oceans.
There are certain secrets (like nuclear stuff) that works differently by statute. Here are some nerds who stragged out over what the laws say.
https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/
https://www.justsecurity.org/86777/dispelling-myths-how-classification-and-declassification-actually-work/
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
There is a big difference between nuclear stuff and whatever gigaglow shit goes on otherwise with cia etc
Biggest 'good reason' is most likely that the establishment wants to protect itself
![:marseyglow: :marseyglow:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyglow.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Frick that, I want to spend thirty minutes trying build a nuclear reactor before giving up and jerking off to hentai.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
the nuclear bombs are the reason hentai and anime were invented...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I bet you glowies would off him if he tried to declassify the hit on herrhausen
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
i wanna know what happened with the Vegas shooting that disappeared real quick after it happened...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
JFK - nothingburger. Does anyone believe the FBI and CIA would really leave in "lol We killed his butt - HW and LBJ" if they did it
RFK - r-slurred Palestinian does Palestinian stuff
MLK jr. - probably nothing, maybe the shooter was on the FBI's radar but that's what they say after every shooting
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Who is this? Oh God, are you talking about George Bush I like he was head of the glowies in 1963?![:marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyfacepalm.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
About 15 years ago there was a big conspiratard book alleging it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/08/AR2009010802710.html
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Details in le Song form m'sir (using heccin marseys??!?!!?!)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1i8d2a6/trump_signs_order_to_release_jfkrfkmlk_files/
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Wouldn't that be if it was a FOIA request? Declassification means without redaction, no?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
No there's still a list of stuff that has to be redacted:
25X1 - Sources and methods. This is by far the most common. This could be some high tech surveillance method that we don't want our enemies to find out about. But usually it's someone who spied for us or someone who just had a conversation with someone at the US Embassy and could get accused of spying for us. If it's a person then you've got to redact anything that can be used to personally identify them.
25X6 - Would damage diplomatic relations with foreign countries. I've seen this a few times. It means they have to reveal naughty things that the US government has done but not Britain, France, Israel, etc.
obvious stuff - How to build nukes, how to get past the Secret Service, how to break our codes, war plans, etc. Stuff that actual spies would be interested in. I hardly ever see these, probably because they wouldn't declassify the document to begin with if it was that important.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Finally live up to your name.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
This guy redacts
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Hey-Oh
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Redactor is:
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jimmy Hoffa, perhaps the ur example of "corrupt union leader" in the modern era, famous missing person case (consensus is that the mob dissapeared him)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
How do you know this?![:marseysquint: :marseysquint:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysquint.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Because I'm reading this stuff right now. People wanted me to cover the various interrelated crises in the Middle East that happened in 1958 and it's really really complicated so I gotta do some research.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
i dont know really, but I expected conspitards to be educated on this matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Unlike
@fine you somehow forgot who here is. ![:marseysmughipskorean: :marseysmughipskorean:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysmughipskorean.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
tell us sensei whats the difference?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Unlike conspiracy tards I actually read declassified documents. One of the defining features of a conspiracy theorist is that they are extremely allergic to actually learning about the topic they supposedly care about. They just want to have an opinion because they saw something in a movie a long time ago.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's just fun grandpa
Modern world lacks mystery. So make some for yourself.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
In my day we watched the X-Files because it was fun but we knew it was fiction. These days the fate of the entire world is determined by r-slurs who can't tell the difference between a TV show and reality.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
The modern world is
though, how don't you see any mystery anywhere? ![:marseyconfused2: :marseyconfused2:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyconfused2.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
!sd r-slurred wise
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
It's more fun to read the wildest theories but not fact check anything to denies it
Carlos Marcello did JFK and I won't hear anything contrary
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
FOIA requests for anything interesting tend to be "lol frick off"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
they have mandatory 25 and 50 year review intervals to declassify old documents, and they still redact certain information to make them unclassified
example, you can't include nuclear restricted data and weapons design, you can't reveal known weapon system vulnerabilities, you can't expose the methods used to gather intelligence, and you can't reveal the name of a spy or informant if they're alive a lot of the time
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
JFK was BORN on MAY 29, 1917 then WAS BAPTIZED CATHOLIC which shows CATHOLICS DENY THAT THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST CAN SAVE NEWBORN INNOCENT BABIES
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
LET ME HEAR YOU SAY ...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
But there's a burger right there?
multiple even
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I mean kinda, because the president saying "pretty please declassy this" is sufficient legal authority for nearly all classified information. Of course the CIA are old hands at bureaucratic games of grabass, but they would be breaking the law.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
The EO isn't even declassification, it's asking for a report on doing the declassification.
I don't think they give a shit about these cases they just don't want to start a trend of presidents doing this.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
If only he'd release the last 28 pages of the 9/11 inquiry as well...
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
That'd frick with our relationship with the Saudis too much right now. We need the Saudi-Israeli-Hyborea(formerly Iran) triumvirate to come into play by the end of his term.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It isn't the Saudis that they don't want us to know about
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Nah, it's the Saudis. Israelis probably are in the shits because they didn't warn us when they could have, but they can easily play the same "wasn't sure if it was credible intelligence" that glowies use. Every congressman who has made
comments about what they say in the report mentions the Saudis.
Somebody(s) who is/are perfectly fine, unpunished, living their best royal lives, and hang out with the Saudis we actually deal with day to day - those somebodys whose names we wouldn't recognize, but a bunch of intelligence and diplomats would "oh frick", dumped a bunch of money and planning with Bin Laden in a very explicit 9/11 plan that they knew about ahead of time. It's somebody that, at the time, Saudi Arabia would never ever have held accountable or extradited because they were the king's first or favorite cousins or sons or frickboys or some shit, and the U.S. could not damage their relationship with the Saudis or OPEC that way without fricking the world sideways.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
So... why did they hate the king and want to overthrow him? Why did they do all those suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia after 9-11? Why did the Saudi mukhabarat hunt down and kill Allah knows how many of them?
As far as conspiracy theories go, this one is pretty r-slurred. It relies on thinking that underground terrorist organizations must like the government of their country. They were from Saudi Arabia so they must love the Saudi king, right? Just like the IRA loves Britain, the Khalistan psychos loved Indira Ghandi, the Weathermen loved Nixon, the Shining Path loved the Peruvian government, etc...
As a general rule, terrorists usually are terrorists because they don't the government of their country. If there's additional evidence like them saying this directly constantly or hundreds of people being killed in fighting between them, those are also indications.
On the other hand, maybe we should trust congressmen.![:marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyfacepalm.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's not an underground terrorist organization - it's rich adult children who funded terrorism and and left their r-slurred, inbred fingerprints on it. The actual conspiracy isn't that dramatic. Whatever they did though, glowies figured the general public and do-gooders and political allies and adversaries would see them up close to Bin Laden on the "already dead bastards who are responsible for killing 3000 Americans on our turf" scale. Maybe it wasn't even that "bad", but they haven't wanted to frick around with what would happen if everybody officially knew.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You have no idea wtf I'm talking about, do you? The al-Qaeda bombing campaign in Saudi Arabia in the early 2000s. Well, I'm just gonna ask you to trust me that I was alive back then and this is something that happened.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Al-Qaeda was obviously pissed they stopped receiving payments after 9/11
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
I watched The Kingdom, you pleb, so I know what you're talking about. Ashraf Barhom is a criminally misused actor.
The Saudi royal family overall and the Saudi "government" did not support al Qaeda. But there are a bunch of rich, useless royals, and some of them got sucked into some bullshit and wrote some checks and got some pictures of them running a train on a hooker with Bin Laden chanting "death to American infidels" or something.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
it's was literally Mossad. Dancing Israelis
trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
it was obviously the saudi intelligence agency if you read it
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Why?![:marseyconfused: :marseyconfused:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyconfused.webp)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context