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— Alice (@AliceFromQueens) February 19, 2025
NEW FALSE DOGE CLAIMS?
A friend knowledgeable about govt contracting noticed some DOGE claims of money saved that are... unusual.
I'm trying to follow his explanation. I might just share DM screenshots and let you all figure it out lol.
I haven't seen these reported.
1/ pic.twitter.com/IR4CieyLfZ
the money:
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!nonchuds
A hundred gorillion $0's saved!!!!
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I don't understand
sounds like they discovered a black budget gayops for metal gear or something
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Basically if Doge didn't stop them getting money, they would get money. But they didn't get all the money, so doge didn't save money. Or something.
This is like when Frohoe debunked
@Garry_Kong being a doctor by only texting with her sister or some shit
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this is where you are wrong
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Think about it this way: By deleting my Shein account I potentially saved β¬500,000 theoretical monies that I might have otherwise spent on chinese plastic dresses. Having the option to spend money is exactly like spending money.
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ooooh..
yeah in medicare they call this cost savings or risk avoidance
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yeah but forcing them to lose weight actually saves money because fat people will inevitably get stuck in the tub and cost the healthcare system hundreds of thousands of dollars. The beetus is priced in by the market.
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Unironically true which is why I'm an advocate for narrower doors in order to qualify for free gibs. If you can't fit through your doors, you'll just have to make due and starve yourself until you do
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It would be amazing to watch the TLC show they would make about fat people trying to get wide door prescriptions from their doctors.
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In the mid 2000s a dutch study found that obesity was significantly cheaper on the healthcare system because they died earlier.
That was dutch BMIs and dutch number of fats, but I think America has a real opportunity on its hands to really lean into those findings.
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Free ciggies for anyone over 300 lbs
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Id cover all my bases and just offer them to anyone over 25 bmi. Either they lose weight, die early, or both if we are lucky.
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obeasts are probably cheaper for the government, they basically die a decade or so before retirement and don't usually end up in long term care like dementia patients.
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I'd gladly give up my social security money if the government would insure I never see another fat person as long as I live. It's not a matter of costs.
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A man like either you're father until you turn 18 or then you're husband should be paying for you're healthcare. Not us. You are the fat people stuck in the bath in you're analogy
Trans lives matter
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Don't be silly. Everyone knows you only make 70% of what men make.
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You realize that you had no children money means nothing if you have no one too give it to. You are just a tax payer when you die everything will go too the state. You've been played you're freedom was really slavery
Trans lives matter
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they had open accounts with vendors to potentially purchase things,
like if you had a JC Penny credit card with a limit of $1000 and a $0 balance, DOGE is claiming the $1000 was spending when nothing was spent or contracted to be spent, just a dollar amount budgeted so they could use it if needed.
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I've worked for the government. If the money is budgeted, it's getting spent or they will get less next year. The last week of the year, they are ordering anything they want or might need to get rid of all remaining budgeted funds. They don't spend it all in February, obviously.
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Vendor accounts are not budgeted spending. They didn't spend anything on this one the past two years.
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you worked for an r-slured department, i also work a government job and there isn't that kind of frickery, instead they just hold off on ordering shit we actually need because IDK there is a big order coming up in two weeks so we'll let half the printers run out of toner between now and then.
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I worked for nasa lol
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If the money is budgeted, it WILL be spent. Otherwise, the DHS will be allocated less money in the next fiscal year.
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These are gonna be the memes of the year for 2025 guaranteed lmfao.
Year of the chud is going really well
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They also claimed they saved $8b on something publicly when it was $8m https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/upshot/doge-contracts-musk-trump.html
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https://www.fpds.gov/common/jsp/LaunchWebPage.jsp?command=execute&requestid=239583855&version=1.5
Oh shit. The government runs on internet explorer crap written in the 90s.
!codecels, click if you dare..
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The social security files Elon and the chuds are chimping out about right now are from 1962.
They index the data in the files and then use cobol to filter/sort the indexes to produce data that is used for payments etc.
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Drumpfler's gone too far this time!
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This but unironically. Remove JS from browsers, all HTTP requests should be server rendered HTML. If you want an app, make one for desktop.
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Kill React devs, roundhouse kick react devs, throw react devs into a volcano...
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REMOVE JAVASCRIPT remove javascript
you are worst script. you are the script idiot you are the script smell. return to npm heck. to npm heck where you belong. to our repos you may come. you may live in the node_modulesβ¦ahahahaha ,bundle we will never forgeve you. typescript rascal Frick but frick butthole javascript stink npm npm..javascript genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead scripts..ahahahahahJAVASCRIPT WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget babel .node we kill the king , node return to your precious reactβ¦hahahahaha idiot javascript and react smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE JAVASCRIPT FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. deno+typescript+bun=kill javascriptβ¦you will npm install/
node modules burn in heck
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So many important things in your daily life run on Internet explorer crap that it's beyond not funny and proof that coders are lazy r-slurs who deserve to get replaced by AI
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This isn't just government either. I'm working with a client that has a bunch of "business critical" applications running on Win2K and 2K3 servers. If you ask them what they do or how they work, they have no idea. The people responsible for them left the company 15+ years ago and all anyone knows is that, if you stop them, everything fricking breaks.
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I'll do you one better: our codecel still works at the company but there's no budget to migrate away from 20+ year-old servers
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This is probably the underlying reason why this happens everywhere, "it works, don't frick with it, there's no money to replace it." At least you can hassle that guy if you need to understand wtf is happening with it though.
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Wouldn't be so bad that it's old, if shit like that didn't so often also run on the most obscure, undocumented, proprietary piece of shit from defunct r-slur companies.
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Southwestern Airlines was spared the cloud strike issue because they run on like Windows 3.1, same with the European train system. Probably the only high paying job in Europe is a Windows 3.1 Admin for the train system. Saw a posting for ~300k USD a few years back for it in Germany.
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I know! Our work uses pretty much the same thing. They're now at two layers of other web software and that pushes and pulls data from the original one. It's all so wonderful!
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It's because it costs less money to pile another layer of slop on top than to fix the shitty broken foundations. You watch, we're going to get
GovAI from DOGE powered by Grok brought to you by X
but underneath it will still be JSP on Oracle in front of IBM z/OS + COBOL.oops ping !codecels
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You poor guy
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Lmao @ ?command=execute in the url
What does that do
A get request handling a form submission probably
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Seriously this is a
I guess Trump could pick it back up but he could do that with all of them?
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Tell me your predictions for the national debt level in 4 years
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But I am going to support who ever is swinging at this shit, whether it is Musk or Massie
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hey guess what it costs money to refactor or replace old shit or maybe Musk's catamites will do it for free for the exposure
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We'll just transfer funding from immigration ngos to do it
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Are you really brainwormed enough to think that Musk won't defund those organizations? Or do you just think that social security, our most expensive cost, should not be a little organized? Or do you simply believe ngos and nonprofits are not receiving government money?
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!codecels this dumb BIPOC thinks you could rewrite all the government's shitcode for a few hundred million.
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/04/04/business/lament-of-the-reagan-irs.html
https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA455620
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jun-27-fi-50556-story.html
https://www.nextgov.com/digital-government/2021/10/a-60-year-old-irs-it-system-wont-finish-modernizing-until-2030/259253/
@JimieWhales love sucking peepee but you'd have too pay @JimieWhales a billy or two too frick with 70 year old COBOL.
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https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/admin.html I don't particularly care that they are using 60 year old tech, it works and its cheap. By law they are allowed to spend up to 3% on overhead, I don't understand why they are the only part of government that is underspending.
Musk either doesn't know how SSA works or doesn't care that he is posting nonsense. The SS numbers file is not a register of deaths and doesn't have anything to do with OA or DI eligibility. There are more people in it then there are citizens because anyone with work authorization has a SS number and their spouses and unmarried children <21 also has a SS number. If he has plans to improve data entry to reduce the error rate fantastic, if he has a worldwide death certificate interchange so they can accurately record deaths also fantastic.
When someone applies for OA they take a copy of the SS tax payments associated with that name, SS & DOB from the master earnings file and then copy it to the modernized claims system. They then validate that person is eligible to receive benefits and use their tax payments to calculate benefit amounts. MCS then setup payment via TD ASAP so people get their gibs.
The MCS part of the system is modern, they continuously improve it which is why admin overheads have been in steady decline since the 80's. The MEF part is also from the 60's like the numbers file. The reason for this is the need to integrate with the IRS and other agencies, modernizing beyond what they already have would be pointless spending for what is just a copy of tax data. There needs to be a very good reason to replace MEF.
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That's great why are we using a frankenstein system to manage SS, the largest part of our budget, while 150 billion is sent to ukraine?
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Whats wrong with the SS system you would like to replace?
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not run on COBOL for starters. It is hot garbage
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Social security should be abolished
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based fricked old people.
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Dude without usaids their wouldn't be cat ladies on the internet that haven't worked a day in their life
Trans lives matter
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Hey jimmy we just looked and unfortunately no gibs for Europe get ready for the trench bud lmao
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Isn't Jimie a bong which means splendid isolation if shit hits the fan.
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Don't badmouth Jimie she's a filthy germ not a dirty bong.
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Falsch, it's an Americanized Bong (Bog blob)
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RIP
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Where in history was Europe at war where londonistan peasants weren't dying in a trench for the king?
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30 years war.
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BIPOC did I just read 1600s? That's your example??
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It was a plague. A disease caused by not having indoor plumbing or pottys.
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Lmao
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It was also caused by having a monarch instead of a president. Truly anarchy can work if you have people with functioning brains.
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kappachungus
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The thirty years war was the most destructive war in Europe and Britain stayed out!
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Elon would never lie to me
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which makes it not a lie, q.e.d.
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Going to be funny when it's budget approval time and it's just as big as its ever been
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*bigger than
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SUCKED IN EUROCUTE TWINK EVERYONE LAUGH AT JIMBOTRON
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most conservative republican
debt
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Technically line for additional debt would be flat if its money that would be spent on shitty projects being spent elsewhere.
Assuming everyone is getting a 1:1 out of it.
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I can't wait.
Stimulus Daddy keeps winning!
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!besties it's stimmy time again
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Buy GME now and sell it to the moids when they get their checks and start checking their financial astrology youtubers
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LOL now you morons want NEETBUCKS
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now? I think you mean STILL
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FRICK lmao I was so hoping he hadn't learned the "gibs work" lesson
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(i love sucking peepee)
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Zion Don is just greasing them up for this one.
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Fricking Commie lmao
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This will stop inflation
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Doge shillcels. I'd rather pay 4x the price for a product to show my unending support for an anonymous community.
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He would get 99% approval rating
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LOL
anyway he would get 1% disapproval from people who actually understand and care about money
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Ah another, "irs extorting me for international Jews is the only way states can bring in money" fren
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nah its just stupid to give away money when you're $2T in debt is all
I'd still take it don't get me wrong
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Oh yeah it would be fiscally responsible for sure I agreeβ¦..
But frick that shit neighbor give me money lol
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You mean like those ages they are all obsessed about that mean 1/3rd of social security payments are fraud but the ages come from the numbers file not the OA payments file?
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!chuds, Jimie's being mean to me!
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Imagine being r-slurred enough to be an Elon simp,
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So basically money was allocated for a contract and never spent, doge canceled the outstanding contract and claimed a savings on its max potential cap.
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zoz
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zozzle
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zle
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might as well say you saw it on facebook
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Snapshots:
https://x.com/AliceFromQueens/status/1892095449789612201:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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Spoiler alert, all government money is monopoly money.
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