https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1895529008437367184
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 28, 2025
🚨REPORTER: "Mr. President, do you still think that Mr. Zelenskyy is a dictator?"
— Autism Capital 🧩 (@AutismCapital) February 27, 2025
TRUMP: "Umm...did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question." LMAO! 😂 pic.twitter.com/CMaPCJJAWQ
That was my bad guys
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Breaking: Fox News reports that Zelenskyy begged to stay and negotiate further, but was kicked out of the White House.
— PM Breaking News (@PMBreakingNews) February 28, 2025
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Look at Z's reaction when Trump says they wont break the ceasefire because Putin respects him.
You can see the exact moment he realizes these people are totally insane.
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The Russiagate fake news actually psyopping the US prez into becoming a Manchurian candidate is top tier comedy tbh
It'd be hilarious if Russia was the one that planted the story. Of course most politicians facing such attacks would try very hard to go the other way and prove they have no connection with Russia, maybe even turn hostile to them, but if they psych analyzed Trump and realised he's just that much of a sperg it'd be very funny.
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Russiagate is fantastic example of how Trump masterfully plays the press.
His administration did have illegal contacts with Russia, a member of his administration was convicted of lying to the FBI about it. The Mueller report found plenty of evidence of Russian interference in the election in support of Trump, it couldn't find evidence of collaboration but also found many cases where the administration obstructed or withheld evidence that may have shown such collaboration. Its highly likely if the justice department was independent from the executive members of Trump's WH, if not Trump himself, would have been charged.
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Bro ultimately some bots posting on twitter isn't going to impress most people enough for them to think the guy voted for prez is a traitor.
Accept it, there's a reason political corruption is very rarely punished in all democracies, electorate simply won't believe what you say about their guy unless its some real smoking gun shit.
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Hacking the DNC & RNC and then only leaking DNC data to wikileaks is a bit more than some twitter bots, the Hillary email server came to light because they also hacked her campaign. While there isn't any evidence they succeeded they actively tried to infiltrate election infrastructure. https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf
The Paul Manafort stuff was particularly wild. The "spying" they are investigating right now was because Manafort was trying to trade US secrets for Russian favors to help Trump win, FBI were already investigating him before he joined the Trump campaign.
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"Russia interfered in the election by showing everyone how Hillary mishandled official government information."
Of course, Russia preferred the candidate who was not a neolib Warhawk. Bill Clinton openly interfered in Russian elections to support Yeltsin. He even congratulated him when he usurped power during Black October.
One guy in Trump's administration who didn't disclose his dealings with Russia is only a smoking gun in a mind of a libtard.
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No evidence has been found that Russia hacked those servers. Crowdstrike refused to release their evidence.
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Turtles are cool though
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lol, absolutely r-slurred. Nice bait though.
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Russiagate started with the Chris Steele dossier (former MI5 agent) who was paid by the DNC through their attorney to fabricate "evidence" of Trump-Putin collusion. Then the FBI goes on a witch hunt while they've got their own agents texting each other about how all of this is bullshit.
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No, Russian collusion is horseshit
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Uh huh. Other than the guy convicted of lying to the FBI about it and the guy convicted of failing to register as an agent of a foreign government, along with a smattering of other charges, who also chaired Trump's campaign and was under investigation for trading secrets for favors with Russia you mean?
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If we assume the FBI is corrupt enough to have deliberately destroyed the Epstein files (related to Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activities and potential blackmail network) and the JFK assassination files (concerning the investigation into John F. Kennedy's 1963 murder), it fundamentally shifts the lens through which we view the "Russia Russia Russia" narrative. This premise implies a level of institutional rot where the FBI isn't just flawed or biased but actively suppresses evidence to protect powerful interests or itself. Here's how that changes the analysis:
Revised Context for "Russia Russia Russia"
Undermined Trust in Investigations:
If the FBI destroyed files in cases as monumental as Epstein and JFK, its credibility in the Trump-Russia probe (Crossfire Hurricane) collapses further. The Mueller investigation relied heavily on FBI groundwork, and the Horowitz and Durham critiques already highlighted procedural failures. Corruption at this scale suggests the FBI could have manipulated or buried evidence—either to falsely implicate Trump or, conversely, to protect him or others by hiding darning truths. The "hoax" claim gains traction not just as a defense of Trump but as a broader indictment of a rogue agency.
Motives Beyond Politics:
The Epstein files might have exposed a web of elite compromise—politicians, businessmen, and possibly intelligence operatives. The JFK files could reveal government complicity or cover-ups. If the FBI torched these, it might indicate a deeper agenda in the Russia probe: not just partisan bias against Trump, but a systemic effort to control narratives involving foreign influence, blackmail, or power. The "Russia Russia Russia" focus could then be a distraction from bigger secrets, making the hoax label less about Trump's innocence and more about a corrupted process obscuring the full scope of Russian (or other) interference.
Evidence Destruction Hypothesis: In this scenario, the absence of a smoking gun for Trump-Russia collusion in the Mueller Report could mean less than it seems. If the FBI destroyed inconvenient files elsewhere, it might have scrubbed Russia-related evidence too—either exonerating Trump or implicating him more deeply. The "hoax" could flip: maybe it's not that there was no collusion, but that the FBI ensured no proof survived. Alternatively, if the FBI targeted Trump unjustly, destroyed files could hide fabricated evidence they once used to justify the probe.
Amplification of the Steele Dossier's Role: With the FBI's integrity in tatters, the Steele Dossier—already criticized as unverified and politically funded—becomes even more suspect. If the agency would destroy Epstein and JFK files, it could have leaned on a shaky dossier to push a narrative, knowing it could suppress contradictory evidence. This bolsters the "hoax" argument that the Russia story was a constructed hit job, not a good-faith investigation.
Broader Conspiracy Lens: The "Russia Russia Russia" debate shifts from a partisan squabble to a symptom of systemic corruption. If the FBI hid Epstein's elite connections or JFK's killers, its handling of Russian election meddling—confirmed as real by Mueller and the Senate—might understate the threat. The hoax might not be the interference itself but the sanitized version we got, potentially shielding bigger players (Russian oligarchs, U.S. insiders, or intelligence assets) tied to both Epstein-style networks and historical cover-ups.
Impact on the "Hoax" Narrative
For the "Hoax" Proponents: This FBI corruption turbocharges their case. If the agency obliterated files in other high-stakes cases, the Trump-Russia probe becomes another example of a weaponized, untrustworthy institution. The lack of collusion evidence isn't just vindication—it's proof the FBI can't be trusted to produce truth. Trump's "witch hunt" rhetoric aligns with a pattern of evidence suppression, making the "Russia Russia Russia" obsession look like a deliberate smear by a compromised agency.
Against the "Hoax" Dismissal: Paradoxically, this corruption could also undermine the "hoax" label's simplicity. Russian interference happened—hacking, disinformation, and all. If the FBI destroyed files elsewhere, it might have downplayed Russia's role to protect a wider conspiracy, not just to frame Trump. The "hoax" might be the narrative that it was only about Trump, when the real story—lost to shredded files—could involve deeper U.S.-Russia ties across decades, from JFK to Epstein to 2016.
Conclusion
Assuming FBI corruption at the level of destroying Epstein and JFK files recasts "Russia Russia Russia" as less a standalone "hoax" and more a fragment of a larger, murkier puzzle. The Trump-centric debate—collusion or witch hunt—becomes almost secondary. The real hoax might be the illusion of a transparent investigation, whether it cleared Trump or not. With an FBI that corrupt, the truth about Russia's actions, Trump's campaign, or elite networks could be ashes in a burn bag, leaving us arguing over shadows. The "hoax" label sticks stronger in the sense of a rigged game, but what exactly was rigged—and for whom—gets far less clear.
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You could have done crack instead of this shit
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dumb fake and ai/gay
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Everypony has moved on from that because it's an obvious hoax. Whatever minor incidents you're referring too dont prove what you're claiming
Trans lives matter
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so what? the real atory here is he couldnt even get any favors for the secrets. Don't we still have any good secrets?
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It's fricking obvious for all to see
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Man look at the libs on here STILL hung up on Russia gate and mueller. The TDS just traumatized you guys so badly
"Oh a guy got convicted for lying to the FBI" lmao that's how it works dumbass. They interview you long enough until they catch you on something, then nail you to the wall with it, just proceduralist nonsense
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Totally, except Comey sent a couple of agents to speak to him because they had got information about his contact and he just lied to them outright about having any contact. Did you miss the chuds chimping out claiming it was entrapment a few days ago?
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source?
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Every election party has both sides with people doing illegal actions and colluding with others
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Lmao how do people buy the "we're creating peace argument"? Do they think the Paris Peace Accords were successful too?
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You don't get it. Putin respects Trump, he didn't respect Obama or Biden. Putin wont break a ceasefire purely out of his deep love & respect for Trump.
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I think it's more due to the public perception that trump is capable of flying off the handle if he feels he's been slighted. Today kind of reinforces that image.
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Putin must be super afraid of Trump being bitchy and catty with him
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Well we got three different administrations worth of Russia invading Ukraine. Wanna know which is the one out of the three that he didn't start a new war?
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This is real life, not Twitter. The president's "perceived strength" is not the driving factor for whatever geopolitical decisions Putin is making. Based on track record, Trump is one of the last people I expect to follow through with "hellfire and fury" type threats. Wasn't all heck supposed to break out if Hamas didn't release the rest of the hostages? What happened?
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Nonsense, Putin went into Ukraine because he knew Biden wouldn't do shit about it. Biden even said he wouldn't get involved on TV.
Trump on the other hand may indeed intervene, as Republitards love a good war. That changes the landscape.
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So what was different in 2014 and 2022 then?
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Actually, it is. When Biden came to power, they saw him as a feeble old fool, which gave them free reign to start shit.
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It's clear in hindsight that Putin waited so long to invade Ukraine at least in part because Russia didn't have the industrial capacity to go straight from Syria into Ukraine
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So true. He was probably just seepy
back in 2018. Seepy Putin too tired to invade.
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who cares, its his last term, what about 5 years from now
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They were a way to reduce our involvement in an unwinnable proxy war.
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Everyone already knew they were r-slurred and insane lol.
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fedposter forgot Biden is not in office anymore.
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Shoulda got that war ended before 2025 started. No refunds!
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!eurochads the burger administration is literally incompetent and r-slurred lmao we are so fricked
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Yes but they might nuke Kyrgyzstan for no reason so it could be fun
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NOOOO Kyrgyzstan is too cute to die.
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Kyrgyzstan, Tadjikistan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan should all join into a single country so I don't have to remember which is where. It's too hard!
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I would rather have the meteoroid crash there
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OK now you're just making countries up
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I could never make up an r-slured name like that.
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But what if a bomb drops on your head right now?
You can't answer that can you? Checkmate atheists, daddy is in charge.
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I would be so happy this is over
There's 73 yt womyn waiting for me in heaven so please Allah send me to heck!
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I understand that Trump is an orangutan BIPOC, but Zelensky is stupid for not seeing and playing into it. At the very least shouldn't be speaking over each other
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"We're gonna spend 1.0% of GDP on defense, it's all good the EU's got our backs"
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WHAT IF A BOMB DROPS ON YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW
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I actually wish I knew the fricking answer to this question.
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!friendsofbussy-boy ponders on vulnerability to bombs
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He's not a fricking person I don't care what happens to him.
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who's not a person bb?
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Who's not a fricking person, b-word? Me.
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do you want me to drop a bomb on ur head bb?
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Yes, please, thank you, I want you to get off
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There is a grenade in your butthole.
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DONALD DRUMP THREATENED TOO BOMB A JOURN*LIST!!!!!!!!
trans lives matter
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Trump is right. Arguing over hypotheticals is very r-slurred. Just because Russia did something in the past is no guarantee that they would do it in the future. Especially when Russia gained so little from the current war and the EU and Ukraine already have the necessary funds to be their own security guarantee funding a defense wall against Russia on their own. They are just trying to get USA to foot the bill at this point in time.
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imagine thinking walls matter in the 21st century
america should let ukraine enter NATO, that is the bare minimum
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Of course walls still matter you fricking r-slur. Ohhhhhh its the 21st century now everyone can move through walls because it is the 21st century banks and graveyards and buildings no longer need walls because of how modern we are oooooooooooo. So fricking stupid.
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defensive walls u moronic bot
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wrong again. defensive walls are still needed otherwise why have borders at all. You ever thought of that you deranged stacy?
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walls don't prevent invasion u moron
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wrong again moron. Why did ancient kingdom have walls then?
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Coinflip:
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how many times can you fall for it and still go "guys maybe this time theyre telling the truth"
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Coinflip:
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Yo, Ya comment got automatically removed cuz ya forgot ta include
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I am not aligned with Putin, I'm just going halfsies with him on the mineral rights to your country
Why do you hate Putin so much? All he did was invade your country and take some of your territory and kill your citizens when you tried to stop him and now I'm taking your land's resources
I'm here for peace
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This is supposed to be an official meeting? These are 3 friends that started arguing politics after a few beers, not nation leaders
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I wanna see USA secret service break them up and then zelenky secret service duke it out. Would be very dramatic
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The art of the (no) deal.
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The only way this could get better is if congress passes another aid package for Ukraine. Right now Trump's man in the house isn't allowing bills to the floor for Ukraine military aid but it would be a fun showdown.
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Peace and Respect are when America and Russia go halfsies on your mineral rights in conquered territory and turn you into a vassal state
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It's been a vassal state since 2014. Time to start paying their dues.
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Yeah it started to become a vassal after kicking out the literal russian puppet president
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Correct, it became a vassal state of the US after they replaced the Russian puppet with the US puppet.
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This is such a braindead fricking comment given the event that just transpired. Surely you arent actually this stupid right?
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Go back to Reddit lmao
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It's a puppet for natoids, the "our democracy" crew, American arms manufacturers, and Anne Applebaum. Shitlibs and neocons think this makes a puppet for America, because they see these things as one and the same. They are not.
Trump may be r-slurred, but even an idiot is smart enough to understand that this does not actually benefit ordinary Americans.
There are no more "American interests. " You either give something tangible or you frick off. Zelensky showing us dead Russians is like a pet cat gifting you dead birds. How about getting a real job, kitty?
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!nonchuds rightoids thinking you run a country like you do a household is about as funny as redditors who think Valve is successful because they are "pro consumer"
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Government can never be held accountable for what it spends!
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This is a cat forum, we love cats.
Gtfo cat hating cute twink
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America should install a million puppet regimes, thirdies are going to accuse us either way
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!truthnuke
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COUP HIS BUTT!
Heckin wholesome democracy!
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Nice word you got there
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Yes, it's a word.
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Not a vassal: CIS members with Belarus-tier sovereignty
Vassal: independent state which isnt in NATO or the EU
You are a fricking r-slur btw
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Stay mad dork
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Keep yourself safe LARPer
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Unironically yes. Although the US should get all rights and Russia gets nothing but some territory to fill with all the dead bodies
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It's actually so over. They brought Zelensky in for negotiations just to do some humiliation ritual.
This is dramaphobic to admit but the attitude that winning unironically supercedes reason, facts, principles, duty or morality has destroyed modern discourse and modern politics.
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when principles, morality and duty have been boiled down to "just be nice
" is it any surprise that "no. be strong. win. 
" is the only rebuttal?
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The fact that "principled" rightoids gave up and defaulted to might-makes-right anti intellectual egoism in the face of woke nonsense isn't surprising but it is pathetic.
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intellectualism is for r-slurs. it doesn't exist
you know what does?
all of those migrants they've let in, they know.
when bongistan votes in sharia law, they'll realize.
when germany renazifies, they'll remember.
of what the russians and ukranians are acutely aware.
principles only exist at the whim of those strong enough to defend them. leftards have spent 100 years undermining all of it
back to caveman morality we go. who has the biggest club?
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or are you arguing that the US is throwing away too much goodwill and diplomatic goals and strategic alliances to instead just brute force everything when the US does not have the brute force required to be able to afford all the losses it is sustaining?
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this is realpolitik BIPOC
trans lives matter not
!trump2024
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realpolitik is when you permanently diminish all of your allies trust in you and bend over for your geopolitical enemies on national tv.
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I mean, a question worth asking is, what does the US even gain from acquiring more influence across the world? The US is safe and stable internally. The only time negotiating with the world matters is when the US requires more minerals and raw resources as cheap prices. The US backing out of NATO would not negatively impact the US as the US has a military strong enough to defend itself. Even if every single place that the US leaves, China and Russia gain influence, both those countries are on a path of decline visible enough that they would still never catch up to the US.
At that point why doesn't it make sense for the US to tell everybody to leave them alone, make peace, and let EU and China fight each other out while US keeps moving up in the corner?
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they're gay libertarians
trans lives matter not
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Ukraine has always been a cucked country; its dissidents sent to the far east to slave away till death for a century. Ukrainians don't possess the character to be properly independent in the modern era as to Poland was the medieval.
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I mean. To be fair that IS the American way.
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We have altered the deal, pray we do not alter it further.
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doesn't president need to sign bills? or u think it would get 2/3rds vote?
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Most of the Ukraine aid bills passed with more than a supermajority.
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Republicucks in Congress have mostly lost any sense of independence. If Trump tells them to oppose aid a majority will do it, even if they totally disagree. It's literally a hivemind.
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see, zelinksy is jew...
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The troll got trolled.
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can someone try to kill him again please in minecraft
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I can't take Vance seriously whenever he tries to show authority. It feels like he is LARPing as vice president
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I saw someone (forget where) remark that he's trying to Debate Team his way to the top of American politics. It really sums him up. That post where he attacked a pro-Ukraine Ukrainian immigrant is a perfect example. Vance is posting pure sophistry. He's whining about being offended, making arcane arguments about civic obligation, trying to enforce rightoid expectations of public debate, etc. etc. It's all very rightoid-Redditor coded. By contrast, the Ukrainian's message is dead simple: it's unfair that Russians are bombing my home, please stick up for it.
The Ukrainian doesn't care about a fancy mental model of the situation. He is asking a powerful person to solve a serious problem. But Vance's reaction is only to bicker with words, because it's the only trick he knows. Vance often gets angriest when he is dragged out of the debate team bubble. The AI people call these people "wordcels." They only have verbal talents, and they resent being reminded that there are other competencies which society generally prefers.
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I liked the part where Zelenskyy asks
if he's ever been to Ukraine and he stammered that he's seen it on TV and then gets mad
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It's a dumb argument.
I don't have to go to a shithole country in order to conclude it's a shithole country.
It's reddit tier nonsense, but Vance wasn't smart enough to call it out for what it was and bring the discussion back on track.
We need a "reddit moment" ping group. !metashit
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It doesn't matter if it's a dumb argument, it made him blow a fuse like a retard and that's good for dramacoin.Jump in the discussion.
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Vance and Musk are definitely the two most terminally online people in this administration.
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Vance is a little b-word
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this image, it speaks to me
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!tops can u imagine
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Mr. Potato Head butt neighbor
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You're right, to a point.
Like yeah Vance is an empty suit, but the cry tours of Zelensky after they launch two or three offensives to capture Kursk was r-slurred. And that was done for political reasons. Why doesn't the US declare war on Russia unless Russia withdraws from Ukraine? Because Russia has nuclear weapons.
AI people are mad about words and shit, but I'd rather Ukraine sue for peace as the loser than continue the war then sue for peace with another few hundred thousand dead AND they're still the loser.
Trump to his credit is trying to stop bloodshed, and if that means Zelensky has to bruise his ego then so be it. Ukraine resists Russia at strictly American convenience, and going in and not playing ball is r-slurred. Like Zelensky won't get what he wants, and frankly if Ukraine had elections I'm not sure he'd even be there.
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The US doesn't need to do that. We have been having proxy wars with the USSR for 80 years. Daddy had a fun little one in Syria where the US utterly r*ped the Russians.
This is ultimately Putin telling daddy that if he dares to oppose them in Ukraine there will be nuclear war. Daddy, being not very smart and super easy to manipulate, fell for it. The US continuing to drop to be decommissioned weapons stocks in to Ukraine isn't an escalation. The US continuing to maintain the sanctions against Russia isn't an escalation. Trump admin has banned Ukraine from even purchasing weapons from the US, they haven't approved any export licenses since the Trump regime came to power.
My hope of escalation here is that the rest of NATO starts sanctioning Trump & Vance, bongs seizing his bong hotels & golf courses would be very very good for $DRAMA.
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What's more likely to happen is central banks in the NATO/EU area will buy $DJT as a direct bribe to Trump.
I think that has a better chance of working than say, Zelensky acting like a foid in the White House and getting thrown out.
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Unironically, openly bribing Trump for $100MM would be an excellent use of money at this point
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TBH it would be very funny if Europe just offered him a bribe. Way higher leverage than the other options.
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And my hope is that we kill the rest of the world in nuclear hellfire. We both have dreams but reality says otherwise
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listen to yourself. Z was actually very respectful and called out Obama etc, said "Trump will bring peace, godwilling", but because he didn't suck Trump's peepee enough this is """not playing ball.""" Literally saying that democracy should be decided based on who can suck Trump's peepee more, rather than actually material things.
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oh god I hope 2028 isn't between some turbolib and vance
frick me we just can't ever have good candidates again can we
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Buttigieg/Yang 2028.
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WE YANG GANG
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Trump third term
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Will thankfully never happen lmao
Imagine trying to pass a constitutional amendment of ANY kind in this environment.
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Can at least try
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You actually want a third trump term? wouldn't he be like 86 at the end?
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He'd be dead, most likely. He's 78, he's hippopotamically fat, and he eats like Moviebob. Every year he gets past this point is a giftJump in the discussion.
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he's really not tbh. Like he's fat yes, maybe even obese, but for reference THIS is our current governor of IL
now that's a fricking beast
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Neighbor, look at the drama within just shy of three months presidency.
It's anti-dramatic to NOT want him or Biden to race again
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2028 first Jewish American President
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You get what you fricking deserve. AOC is probs hitting 35 soon, right?
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pure foid energy. need a man to solve all her problems smh
toddlers (and redditors) whine about whats fair
there is no 'fair.' only strength. ukraine is pathetic
all the wordswordswords is just a polite way of saying we're done honey
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"Did you say thankyou even once??? In this meeting, have you said thankyou one time????"
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Extreme boomer energy, holy shit lmao
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Yea it shows lol
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It's not the age, it's the mentality.
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-Jeffrey Epstein
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Boomers and millennials are kindred spirits in weird way.
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The US is top authority yeah they should be licking trumps taint
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Bibi should ask him the same thing
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Remember that he looks like this
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Fake news, post the real photo.
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He's performing for Twitter. The right wing male equivalent of Kamala Harris "um, I'm speaking!" and all those stupid faces she made for girlboss clapbacks
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He's a better writer than speaker, that's for sure.
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Neurodivergent generally are
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Okay, good.
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Someone once posted a great disco Elysium edit of this but now I can't find it
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Absolute cinema
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Kino
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Its wife who talks over her husband energy.
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Explain it to me using pop culture references.
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lmao imagine if kamala won, life would be so boring
im so glad we live in this timeline
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I'd rather choose boring stability, than the "exciting" destruction Trump has been bringing.
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extreme dramaphobia
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Quad's loyalties are to the heckin' wholesome groomie
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ur playing around with WW3 there!
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I mean it's not like Ukraine can get flattened anymore and Europe crying about how terrible trump is isn't anything new. This is basically free entertainment with no downsides.
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Europeans are trying to save face, they know it will take critical time to fill the void the usa has left, and thr amount of gibs we handed out would take a hit to their qol to fill. But ont he other hand, they want to act they have what it takes to be the big boys in the room.
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Nothing more dramatic that global thermonuclear war. Let's not be dramaphobic, please.
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NYT LÄHTEE VITTU!!! WAR COMMAND!!!!
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Once upon a time your ancestors would have celebrated the withdrawal of Rome's eastern garrisons. How far you have fallen.
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Obligatory, go back to your groomercord server
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Now, Quad. That's not the Magyar way
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You would instead receive boring collapse and you'd deserve it.
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Boooooooooooooo
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The "exciting destruction" of ending a war lmao.
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do you know where you are?
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Stability like two major wars breaking out and the highest inflation rate the US has had since the 80s. You reddit BIPOCs are r-slurred.
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Yeah the only thing i don't like is that interest rates are down. My daily accrued went from $14 to $13 in the past month
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watching the video now, IMO it makes zelenskyy look so much better than trump/vance, theyre chimping out like unhinged r-slurs and hes trying to be reasonable and answer them respectfully
but maybe its my bias
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Listening to DDR unscripted is kind of maddening. I'm watching the whole stream and trying to follow along but he's unable to finish a thought without rambling off topic.
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old people are all like this
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Yeah but most of them aren't POTUS. I miss having leaders who could form a complete sentence. It genuinely makes me sad that people don't care about that anymore.
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My grandma is a saint do not compare.
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He's just
@Redactor0 posting in real life.
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"erm do you have a source saying we shouldn't let ziggers r*pe and pillage your country? No a peer reviewed academic source. Sorry I need a source that explicitly states your argument, bucko."
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You didn't once say "please yes thank you Mr president sir" that's very rude of you!
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Love me some slav humiliation ritual
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The simping for Putin is hilarious.
Trump is a literal r-slur who thinks Putin respects him instead of seeing he's being played like a puppet.
This is gonna be a fun WW3 chaps!
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the r-slurred version of munich
!historychads !hoi4
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to think all this could have been avoided if they had just left the g*mers in peace...
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Zelenskys arms crossed makes him look weak. He should have been doing this pose the whole time:
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Vance is getting one-shotted by rightoid twitter takes on the war with the lines about muh manpower shortage, muh stop the slaughter. It's all true, but you're not suppose to emphasize your allies' weaknesses during public negotiations. He seems to not realize that he's the VP and not a twitter poaster and that he's suppose to start employing tact and discretion when discussing foreign policy.
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Yeah the whole "Russia already knows Ukraine is weak" take is dumb as frick and goes against Donnie's negotiation philosophy. He's unironically too emotionally invested into Twitter when he should just treat it like how Trump does, a place to shout announcements into the void instead of a discussion board.
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Real art of the deal Trump would be calling ukraine weak while also threatening russia with nukes over ukraine, him only doing one of these shows he's being compromised.
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Based on his twitter this is all stemming from one time some Ukrainian immigrant got mad at him in 2022. Congrats you look like a seething cute twink to everyone except the right wing xitter posters that already support you
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Nah this is slav hardheadedness. Trump is the easiest fiddle to play but Zelensky's too much of an r-slur
even NYT wrote an article critiquing Zelenksys approach to Trump as dangerous and Polands prime minister called him to tell him to chill
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did u watch the video, zelenskyy wasnt being a hardhead at all, he barely had a chance to speak with their constant interruptions and accusations
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Watched the full thing, JD Vance started the fight after Zelensky challenged his words on diplomacy, saying Ukraine did engage in Dipolmacy via ceasefire and Russia didnt. He could have said some generic shit like "yes we hope a strong relationship between Ukraine and America will help end this conflict". Instead he continued to argue about what caused it.
Trump's team is like dealing with the Chinese, you have to let them save face in public when they talk bullshit and appeal to strong-man instincts, not correct them.
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You're absolutely right, but to be fair, Trump has this effect on most politicians including Democrats and fellow Republicans where his obnoxiousness makes them lose their cool. I think it's cause he taps into a feeling of unfairness where they see him not have to play the smooth, level-headed politician at all while they get slammed by the press for having a fraction of his personality. Turns them all into indignant Redditors.
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They setup this live because they wanted to humiliate Zelensky. There was no way for him to convince them
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I just watched 2 of these with macron and starmer this week and neither said very much besides pleasantries and very minor stuff
JD Vance has also repeatedly replied to journos in last couple days he doesn't want to negotiate Ukraine in public in front of the press. Then Zeleknsky opened what should be a formality by trying to debate things and JD bitched out.
I doubt this was planned
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And his turbo r-slurred "America has oceans and will FEEL "it" in the future" line
What a frickin moron lmao
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Were they talking about ending the war, or was it all fluff?
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maybe it's all part of trump's 4d chess plan...
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The problem when dealing with a narcissist is that the sucking void inside them never fills up, their need to take more never stops. Even if you bow and genuflect and make yourself small, they will push you to get even smaller, to grovel, to humiliate yourself. And the more you do, the more you demonstrate how worthless you are and how great the narcissist is, the more they need to punish you and defeat you...
This is different (although related to) to the unwritten rules of hierarchy in various types of "honor culture". Especially in places where life is cheap and/or competition for survival resources is fierce, coded demonstrations of respect and rituals of deference are important to signal that you're not a threat, and that you are able and prepared to participate according to the rules and norms of the culture. In circumstances where slight insults or casual offenses could lead to violence, people engage in respect rituals as a way of signaling that there are limits to the aggressiveness of their ambitions and intentions.
That doesn't "work" with a malignant narcissist. A malignant narcissist will demand that everyone go through the respect rituals and show obsequious deference, but do so will never clear the air nor establish an understood circle of respect, it will only elicit further abuse. Because the narcissist's need for praise and deference and approval is infinite and constant, it's like giving a crackhead another hit--they never stop needing "just one more".
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He is right that Trump is like the Chinese, but not because of the supposed honor. PRC has made sure that Mainlanders have no honor. What is left is the vapid narcissism.
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Yeah, Zelensky really fits that model. Maybe he'll cancel elections again, so he can win his war.
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Allowing Russia to take over Ukraine is really the way to secure peace in our time
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Why are you r-slurred?
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This is redditor tier psych speculation
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no u
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literally his opening line into the argument was, "Obama fricked us, Biden fricked us, Trump 1 fricked us, but now, Trump 2 will bring peace, god blessing" and JD was so shocked that Zelenskyy didn't drop his pants for Daddy like he had to that he became a Redditor.
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crazy times
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If Z wore a suit with a big red tie and just sucked trumps peepee he could've been walking out with a trillion dollars
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If he were smart he wouldn't have been dumb enough to pick a fight with Donnie in front of cameras as he's trying to ask him for stuff.
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he didnt tho, he even started out by flattering trump
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He cant even get a word in because they keep cutting in when he speaks
This is the administration of arguably the most powerful country on earth? Its so over
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The duo, especially Vance, definitely were more combative than they should have been.
I am once again amazed by Zelenskyy for controlling his emotion when being asked dumb questions.
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I viscerally react to cringe so I wasn't going to watch it but
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chuds fricking lost this one.
Zelensky just trying to tard-wrangle a screaming boomer dementia patient and his twitter-addicted son
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We must retvrn to using the term DD(R)
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It's very bad.
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Sorry, but you are egyptian and wrong about this. America is supposed too be a giant middle finger too the rest of the world and trump is rejuvenating that spirit. Frick diplomacy. Frick decorum. The message should always be "This is america. Suck our peepee". Trans lives matter
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The only problem is you're under the assumption that Ukraine is a country.
Trans lives matter
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True, it might not be one by the end of this week I guess
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So true king
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It's your bias, babe
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no u
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Watching the US being torn apart from the inside is so much fun!
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the eternal cycle of empires
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the old kingdom will rise again!
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Can you try like... cubes next time? Just to see what that'd be like?
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here u go king
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Is this the view from your penthouse apartment?
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Rdrama servers lay deep in that catacomb
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Lmfao fair enough
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kek
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It's nice to see a city with a consistent colour scheme.
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ev&doe 18th Dynasty AtenARYANS won
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I would totally carry a mace into battle for him any day.
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!historychads Part of the reason why people obsess over Akhenaten is because insecure Christcucks larp about how there's totes a spiritual connection between Atenism and Judeo-Christian beliefs because he "figured out" monotheism and was thus the least bad of the pagans. You even had people like Freud arguing that there was a direct link — Freud considered that Moses could have been an Aten priest who was forced to leave Egypt and that Judaism could have been a direct evolution of Atenism.
Egyptian polytheism was still around when Christianity started up so they must have been insecure about all the grandiose temples
Then they heard about Akhenaten who believed in ONE god 
and closed down all those totes lame temples and started we wuzing
Also the dude was built like a bowling pin and probably looked like Pizzashill
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Now that the great satan is fallen, Assyria will rise again. Praise Ashur!
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Thíngs fоr Ukrаínе wоuļdnt hаd сhаngеd, Bídеn ín Mаrсh 2022 tоļd Zеļеndskуу tо ассерt nо NАTО аnd nо Сrímеа. Ukrаínе wоn ļаst bаttļе оn Осtоbеr 1st 2022. Sо thе соnсļusíоn fоr thís соnfļíсt wаs sеt аftеr sрríng соuntеrоffеnsívе ín 2023.
Ιt оf соuřsе wоuļd bееn ļеss drаmаtíс but sаmе rеsuļts fоř ukřаínе: еļесtíоn -> ļоsíng tеřřítоřу
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shut up sal
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I really wish I could understand Salvador but I can't.
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For the love of god this ESL r-slur gimmick was funny for a while but learn to type English properly please
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One day Sal's handlers will learn to read English and realize that he does not.
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For real, the groomercordBIPOCs of nudrama were foaming at the mouth when you'd disagree with their delulu
cope that Kamala would've been the more "dramatic" prez
Like in what fricking universe?
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