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Unions and the government are fricking up public education. Redditors: :marseyraging::marseyraging::ragejak::ragejak::ragemask::ragemask::ragejak::soyjakhipster:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/wtbk7e/teachers_unions_politicized_us_schools_not_parents?sort=controversial

Another example is when a teacher’s job performance is egregiously sub-par. In such a scenario, it is clearly in the interest of students for that teacher to be removed, while it is in the interest of the teacher and the union to retain the teacher’s job. This is why in New York City it takes an average of 830 days and $313,000 to fire a single incompetent teacher.

Lol. Wut? That’s kinda r-slurred.

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Frick, y’all, schools haven’t become “politicized” idiots are just starting to realize that one you are educated, and can think for yourself, the politicization of America is fricking stupid, and none of the politicians are remotely trying to help. Y’all really think Obama or trump give a frick about the average American? The more stupid voters they are able to get out of their politicized educational systems, the happier they are. Public school breeds educated free thinkers, and charter schools breed sheep. Nothing else to it.

Y’all think parents don’t push their ideology onto their children and only schools are to blame? Frickin dumb assess.

Literally lost IQ points reading this comment

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Y'all overdose

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My insides curdle anytime i hear someone under 60 say "y'all". Yall yall yall words words words

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:#marseysoutherner: I'm actually a southerncel...

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Well, i do declare :marseybutt::marseybutt:

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Y'all is only acceptable when said with a southern drawl.

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The policing of language along with the concept of cultural appropriation, makes adapting yall ...makes me hope they also take up moonshining to really commit :marseyblind:...or at least that i do :marseysick:

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Public school breeds educated free thinkers, and charter schools breed sheep

holy frick hahahaha

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Couldn't be any fricking farther away than actual libertarians. What a shitty sub.

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OG zoomcut.

:marseythumbsup:

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The more stupid voters they are able to get out of their politicized educational systems, the happier they are. Public school breeds educated free thinkers, and charter schools breed sheep. Nothing else to it.

I have several questions

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POV: you've just mentioned that you won't "suck the girlpeepee" in your 4th grade sexual education class (18 weeks of class time)

:#punchjak:

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Literally lost IQ points reading this comment

Based, I am already an r-slur, so I browse RDrama to become the most r-slurred as possible :chad:

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gonna take Omega 3, do logic puzzles, and work out now

maybe I can repair the damage :marseyrain:

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“Police unions are terrible and just let shitty cops keep their jobs! What? Of course teachers unions are different!”

:soyjaktalking:

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Sorry lefties I hate unions. Love the idea, but modern unions have lost their way in corruption and stuff.

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>implying unions haven't always been corrupt shitholes that only exist to enable widespread mediocrity

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Unions work in a competitive system where the unions themselves have a stake in the business outcome.

Of course, most unions spend all their time lobbying for anticompetitive regulations and contractual requirements that essentially just funnel money into the union, and oftentimes are against expanding union membership to consolidate existing power.

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How about this, unions in private enterprise, banned in government?

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Modern unions in the private world suck butt too. At least in America.

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Unions are must join and unironically with the exception of industrial workers, just hirt the unionized

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This is mafiaphobic.

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Your choices are, one onion is bad and the rest are good, or one union is good and the rest are bad

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onion

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None are good :marseycapitalistmanlet:

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Reddit “Libertarians” don’t sound like any self identified lolberts ive ever met. I’m guessing the sub has been colonized by the usual suspects

:marseyjanny2::marseyfemboy:

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It's one of those subs I'm convinced is being massively manipulated by bots, astroturfers, and admin number manipulation.

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please expound a little on admin number manipulation?

the conspiracy sub is full of people who hate conspiracies and think people who follow them are r-slurred

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Yeah. Even if you hate rightoids, it's sad to see that Reddit has become so hostile to them that even the controlled opposition subs are being overrun by people who are fundamentally hostile to their ideology. Reminds me of what happened to /r/neoliberal and /r/economics.

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/r/neoliberal is just tragic. Used to have great discussion on there. Today I saw some /r/politics reject unironically use the term MAGAt and it had 20+ up votes. There was also a thread where people who weren't comfortable with kids being at drag shows being compared to the klan and Neo Nazis. These same people will wonder why they lost in November after alienating basically everyone.

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These same people will wonder why they lost in November after alienating basically everyone.

Going to be some intense seethe after midterms.

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It's gonna be yuuge.

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it's the same group of larping cute twinks that you see on a subreddit like /r/liberalgunowners

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All the actual libertarians moved to /r/goldandblack and /r/anarcho_capitalism. /r/libertarian was co-opted by commies a while ago (or 'liblefts', as they call themselves).

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Chapo took it over when cth was shut down. Like openly posting the sub was theirs, the mods were replaced with chapo mods, this was years ago and admins were like "whatever." It made the rounds on /r/drama for a bit.

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There are, in typical libertarian fashion, several dozen other libertarian subs that claim to be the The Real Libertarians. Everyone agrees /r/Libertarian has been couped by the the usual.

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Self-professed libertarians crying about trade schools and pushing public school is batshit fricking r-slurred.

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At a school I went to, most of the teachers were on 1-2 year contracts and had a day where most of them found out if it was renewed. It was really easy to find out if one of your teachers didn’t get renewed because you’d do frick all in class. I had one go on a rant about the ‘system’ and then walk out of class 40 min before it ended. We ended up having subs for the rest of year or a free period when the admin couldn’t find anyone to cover.

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Seems like there could be some kind of efficient happy medium between that and a 3 year fire plan with a 300K price tag.

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>unions only benefit the workers

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Unions are cartels that set prices high to give a set group a monopoly and reduce competition in the labor market. Probably smuggle drugs in too. Get the DEA on this stat

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its funny when you say it this way when arguing about negative aspect of teachers unions

often causes a temporary short circuit


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>This is why in New York City it takes an average of 830 days and $313,000 to fire a single incompetent teacher.

Couldn't a smart teachcel just make a deal to take a lump sum of 200k or so, quit, move somewhere else and repeat?

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:marseykneel:

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Sounds like that one city firing all the whitoids first had the right idea :marseymayo:

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>firing all the whitoids first

Now who will tirelessly push to fire all the white people?

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/r/libertarian is just LARPing Leftoids

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What not gatekeeping does to a mf

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Your conformation bias is showing...

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yeah r-slur, thats how people come to conclusions

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"noo you're not supposed to draw on life experience you have to use FACTS and LOGIC and STATISTICS at all times!!!"

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you have to use FACTS and LOGIC and STATISTICS at all times

despite

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Incompetent people working gubmint jobs is a huge problem here in Frogland because of this. Being bad at your job doesn't even cut it to get you fired, you actually have to frick up somehow. You can be the laziest, most useless piece of shit on the planet, so long as there's someone to pick up the slack, it's all good. Things will get done - eventually.

Now this wouldn't be a problem if public institutions were loaded and could hire at will depending on the workload, but they're all on a tight budget. That means frickers who can't do shit not only don't do their job, they make your work harder. Obviously this greatly impacts the already pretty long delays necessary when you need something from some administration or other.

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Only dangerous hard labor jobs should have unions, not pigs, not Starbucks baristas, and not teenage daycare workers.

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That sub is as libertarian as I am attractive.

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Honestly, public employee unions are 100% cursed. If cops and teachers didn't have unions most of the problems people have with them would disappear. The government isn't the same as the private sector in that they provide mostly monopoly services, so entrenched unions shouldn't get to hold the taxpayer hostage when there's no alternative

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Anyone who sends their children to public school should be arrested for child abuse

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Norm is the best

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:#marseykingcrown:

Always, Norm.

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