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Just to get it out of the way, he probably was trying to tap that. This was recommended to a lot of people's feed so there are accusations of "not a real lawyer" flying around that I'm not going to bother posting.
OP:
We have a new undergrad intern (a young woman, perhaps 19 years old), and I thought I'd take her to lunch to welcome her and answer questions about the work. Simple, right? Apparently, taking a female intern out to lunch is now a high-risk situation requiring oversight.
When we got back, it was suggested in the future that I invited other attorneys and avoided going to lunch one-on-one with female interns.
Lesson learned, and in hindsight I get where the firm is coming from. I still think it's a bit of an overreaction, though. I've gotten mixed responses when I've told people this. I'm curious what the subreddit thinks
His darning follow up post where he admits to having something in common with her and actually talked to her.
[–]TurnDownTheRadioJerk[S] -47 points 3 days ago
So here's more: I'm a 24 year old first year and the school she's going to is the same school I went to for undergrad, and she even has some of the same professors I had. We got talking and I asked her to lunch. No, I don't assign her work, but we seem to get along. Yes, there are other interns, but I haven't really had to talk to them yet
Responses to the follow up:
That sounds a little better than I initially imagined, given your ages are pretty close and the power dynamics aren't super crazy off (I'm assuming you don't have much influence at your firm). But your follow-up also makes it sound more like you are in fact trying to hit on her (or at least become her friend), and your firm gave you good advice. You shouldn't be doing anything that looks like you might be looking for a romantic relationship with anyone subordinate to you
Yea OP is totally hitting on her he wouldnt have done this for a dude I'm guessing.
That is pure speculation on your part, is really hard to imagine forming connections and mentorship in a professional field without ulterior motives. It seems reasonable to plausible to me I have gone to lunch with both male and female colleagues.
Dude… that's a crush let's be real, and you were testing the waters.
There's nothing mentor-ly about this. You were trying to get to know her in a personal capacity 😭
Why did this get so downkongd?
Because the world of genuine courteous courtship has gone entirely to the wayside and in its stead is this hyper-sensitive environment. All of this whilst people complain that they can't meet others organically anymore.
He's a young man and shes a young woman. If he is courteous and respectful in his proceeding with her and he doesn't have power over her directly or otherwise in the firm, I don't see the issue. Statistically, the workplace used to be a great place to meet your spouse.
Young man and a younger** woman. She's a teenager AND an intern. He is an adult who can drink and her mentor at a law firm trying to isolate her. He can treat all the interns or a few more so they arent alone.
There is nothing improper, legally or ethically, about a 24 year old and a 19 year old dating
Got ourselves a over here.
Other Responses:
More context is needed. Are there more interns than just her? Are you working closely with her? If you were her direct supervisor or somebody formally assigning her work, and she was the only intern, I don't think it would necessarily be weird. If you were some random associate who just showed up and was like, "Yo, wanna grab lunch", and didn't invite any of the male interns in the same room, I could see how that might not have the best appearance
I think he left them out on purpose. He didn't want to look like a creep
Two comments in we have him being called a creep. Doesn't appear to be a lawyer and posts in a really odd mix of subreddits including /r/aupairs.
Barely a crumb of context which might be explanatory in itself.
Is this the only intern you've ever taken out? If so, why this sudden exception?
Is she the only intern? If not, why exactly did you choose her and her alone?
Do you work more closely with her than anyone else? Most attorneys work more closely with paralegals, so why her and not them?
[–]PoundTown68 -35 points 3 days ago
That's a lot of useless questions. In a sane world, two consenting adults can go to lunch without concern. Two consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want together if we're being honest. This is exactly why feminists should be ignored. We've allowed them to create a culture of fear, where everyone is tiptoes around unnecessary regulation that benefit nobody….except for 40 year old feminists, jealous that they're no longer sexually attractive, who want to force everyone else to be unhappy with them. Misery loves company.
Darn, found the incel
$100 this guy sexually harasses people on the daily
Yeah, I mean, look alive brother. Avoiding the appearance of a questionable situation is very easy if you have situational awareness.
Was it actually questionable? That's not the right question and doesn't matter (unless it got weird). Protect yourself and the firm. Heck, the vast majority of lunches I went to as an intern or otherwise young firm employee were with multiple people, now that I think about it.
This is crazy. Taking someone out to a business lunch in a public place is not out of bounds or even close.
Why was this intern chosen for a solo business lunch with an older male attorney? I'm not saying OP had any untoward intentions, but let's not pretend the optics don't raise valid concerns.
Also, though, based on the follow up, op definitely does have untoward intentions
The optics of it are not great. Put yourself in the shoes of a supervising partner. Perhaps his 28 years old associate has no bad intention when he asks the 19 year old intern to lunch. Perhaps the 28 year old intern has romantic intentions. Partner has no idea. Does the 19 year old intern know your intentions. Did you take any male interns to lunch. If there is no romantic intention perhaps bring along another associate (perhaps female) and more than one intern or staffer.
Yeah he has to think what the firm partners would think if this 30 year old associate took the 19 year old to lunch. It's a bad look when a 34 year old associate is doing that with an 18 year old intern. The 17 year old intern doesn't know she can decline the lunch invite from the 38 year old.
When I was a 19 year old college student, I invited a visiting professor to lunch to discuss their career. I thought thats what we were supposed to do "networking" and all, build a rapport. The lunch was 100% professional the entire time. No drinking. I paid for myself. All day time hours in public. Afterwards i was invited into the deans office and told that my behavior was inappropriate and unprofessional and that I needed to learn my place and not be so forward. When I was ultimately asked to leave the school (we aren't expelling you, we want to encourage you to go to a place better fitted for you) they cited my inappropriate relationships with visiting professors as one of the reasons.
It was humiliating.
15 years later that school got sued into the ground for 30 decades of sexual abuse against minors.
(am woman)
Talk about getting absolutely on.
I think they are trying to help you out.
I went to not-lunch with a support staff ... we were both new to the org, and she accused me of being a predator. And then coworkers hacked my email and spread it around the community. It was too late by the time we established that she was lying, for my email inbox was everywhere and the firm decided I had to leave before I could figure it out.
You need to be extraordinarily careful.
I found one of the few dissenting voices that wasn't downkongd into oblivion.
I strongly disagree with this take. Be professional about it. Make sure it's a public place, but refusing to take women to lunch in a professional environment is Mike Pence culture crap that prevents women from having the same opportunities as men.
IMO, a work culture that discourages men from meeting 1 on 1 with women is a massive red flag and usually the #1 sign that the employer has fostered an anti-woman environment.
There is a difference between "men and women can't have lunch together" and "attorney shouldn't take young intern of the opposite s*x to lunch alone". The power imbalance inherent in the latter certainly has a higher chance of producing a bad situation, from either direction (attorney actually taking advantage, or intern falsely claiming they did).
Keeping that sort of thing as a small group activity avoids all the possible issues.
Muh power imbalance.
You're a lawyer and don't understand professional conduct or ethics?
OP about to be disbarred.
Why is no one talking about the 19 year old intern's perspective. That's what matters here. And that's what the others at the firm are focused on, not the intentions of the OP.
Possibly the most incorrect response in the whole thread.
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- Impassionata : Allende in a real post-ironic mood all expression is genuine mood lmao
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Here's what I did. I called my congressional representative (R) hoping to leave a message but instead his staff picked up. I awkwardly stumbled my way through why I think Elon Musk is insanity. Could tell the sweet little republican staffer hated her life so much as she said, "I'll pass that along." :) I also called my senators and complained again.
Finally, and my personal fave thing I did today, I rolled down my car windows on the way back from school drop off and BLARED the FDT rap by YG & Nippsey Hussle. I made one VT girl's day when she smiled at me because of the song and then I literally yelled "frick Donald Trump" at the top of my lungs. She started laughing in her car. I also made quite an impression on a car full of frat bros who probably voted for him.
Viva la revolución, Dramatards.
Burgers why are you like this?
These are the times which try men's souls.
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Those minnesota links are to a channel/playlist that just redirects to a channel (not an actual livestream)
right now some guy is talking about midwifes
DRUMPF is finished
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Mexicans, Canadians, nor s should be allowed to pilot airplanes in U.S. airspace from now on.
At least until every foreigner is psychoanalysed.
Yet the DC collision we only have 2 grainy videos from far away?
Especially having footage from 40 different angles released immediately.
How do you cover up an attack like that?
You call it a helicopter "accident",
'cause you can never say you blew up a passenger plane carrying 60 or so people in it.
@Aevann rightoid drama
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I have a legitimate question for everyone here: is there stuff that HasanAbi has done/said that you dislike?
Apologies for beating a dead horse with Hasan discourse, especially in the form of an AskReddit-style thread, but this is something I've been meaning to ask after lurking on this sub for quite some time and seeing all the drama unfold.
I know the the newest post on this sub right now is another post asking people about Hasan, and things have been pretty heated with the H3H3 content drop, but with how often he's brought up on the sub (and often defended); really not trying to stole further flam wars in asking this. But I was genuinely curious if anyone > here has legit issues with Hasan. Drama he's been a part of, behavior, political takes, people he associates with; anything like that.
I'm asking this to everyone, but in particular, when I pop into Hasan-related threads, I see a not-insignificant amount of comments that go something like "I don't like Hasan, but he's absolutely right/I'm defending him on this". I'm interesting in responses from people like that (though I'm not opposed to any answers).
Edit: and guys, please keep it civil, okay? I'd prefer for this thread not to get locked or deleted due to people escalating things in the comments.
/r/YouTubeDrama was a pretty inactive subreddit sitting at around 70k subs until about 1 year ago with the release of HBomberGuys "Plagiarism and YouTube" video which saw rapid expansion of the subreddit since then. (And attracting the very type of people you would imagine)
Basically Communists who hate all property except intellectual property (THATS MY IDEA DONUT STEAL!)
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/magi2t7/?context=8
I don't like how he doesn't do the Pog face enough when watching random shit on YouTube for hours
Replies to this comment rightfully inform him that in a true socialist utopia, your youtube ad revenue belongs to the 'people', CHUD!
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/magblva/?context=8
More people seethe about his lack of reactions over.... WHO GIVES A SHIT REALLY?
Except this time the opinion comes from a Trans Queen Jay Exci so they cant just dismiss them under heckin socialism.
Pictured below VVV (Jay Exci)
(Pronouns She/her REMEMBER)
Except hecking Jay Exci cant be taking seriously because SHE appears on the EFAP podcast with Transphic Weirdos!!!!
Which too be fair I would dismiss anything from EFAP because anyone willing to watch this shit should kill themselves
Lots of comments about his comments on women rights (What a surprise the Turkish Muslim defender hates women's rights)
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/maggnl9/?context=8
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/mahircz/?context=8
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/magclqd/?context=8
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1ifi4sy/comment/magxrnc/?context=8
Mostly self reported FOIDS complaining about this, while still saying they watch and support Hasan Piker.
In the wise words of Daddy Trump
Essentially this thread is exactly confirming what I thought from the subreddit,
That it's filled with the most insufferable 'socialist' cattle, who HATE drama, and only support it if it affirms their gender (lefitist)
I want to develop mind powers to explode peoples brains with my mind.
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I remember when I first joined it was kind of cheeky and irreverent, and it still seemed plausible that women posted here. But it's become progressively more shallow and heartless. I mean I can't be the only one picking up on this, right? "The worst thing about DOGE is how soy it all is"? We can't just express outrage at immorality anymore, every criticism must be given through the lens of haughty indifference and framed around coolness or lack thereof. I think some people here have genuinely replaced their concept of wrong and right with cringe/not cringe and never stopped to consider how cruel and purposeless it could make them.
every criticism must be given through the lens of haughty indifference and framed around coolness or lack thereof
Quick question did you ever listen to the pod? Like even one clip or so?
People actually listen to Rspod?!
Gooooood, for the 100,000th time - this is a unique sub and one of the only decent culture/current events subs on reddit, the podcast sucks shit so most people here either never listened or stopped listening in 2019 (me). I used to like A&D but in the last five years one became a Fox News dork and the other is hawking a shit coin, they've changed. That being said, what drew me to them and this sub in the first place was their critique/thoughts on the overly woke/grifter left and establishment liberals. What I and many didn't know back in 2018 was A&D are insecure dorks who just adopt whatever ideology they currently find chic/edgy, and as soon as Bernie/progressive politics became boring they moved onto the next thing. But a lot of us here have beliefs based on morality/ethics/what we find to be true, so here we are
Tldr: "I have never and will never engage with the content this sub is about but here's how it should be run."
Anyways I thought this was a fun thread. The commenters even got OP to self delete out of shame.
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Hi! It's now February, and you know what that means - it's time for our annual Donkey Kong December celebration!!!!
Unlike last year (but like the year before!), this time around there are
NEW BADGES
and as you know I am extremely sleep deprived, so I will mostly be just copypasting from this thread here https://rdrama.net/post/156812/diddykongdancediddykongscaredkongmaxxing-event-badges-galore-diddykongscareddiddykongdance
NOTE: Badges appear on profiles in the order they were granted, so I will be paying out in order so as to spell K-O-N-G. So if you're just doing the G (name and stuff), that will be paid out after the event.
SUBMIT A DONKEY-KONG THEMED BANNER TO EARN YOUR K. No low effort, quality control will be exercised. You know the drill by now with how banners work.
Protip: Here is a fantastic Donkey Kong font - https://fontmeme.com/donkey-kong-font/. There are a huge number of Donkey Kong assets out there if you don't feel like creating your own.
Submit here: https://rdrama.net/submit/banners
SUBMIT A DONKEY KONG-THEMED SIDEBAR PIECE TO EARN YOUR O. Requirements: Must incorporate Marsey or another mascot (bardfinn counts if you want). No low effort, quality control will be exercised.
Submit here: https://rdrama.net/submit/sidebar
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SUBMIT A DONKEY-KONG THEMED MARSEY or DONKEY KONG EMOJI TO EARN YOUR N. Requirements: None for Marseys, you know the drill with those by now. For straight up DK emojis, these need to be transparent background animated assets from the games. No low effort Marseys, quality control will be exercised.
Submit here: https://rdrama.net/submit/emojis
NOTE: Game assets should be submit under the new "Donkey Kong" category. Marseys still go under Marsey.
ROCK A KONG-THEMED NAME (USE "KONG" SOMEWHERE), PFP AND PRONOUNS TO EARN YOUR G. It really is that simple. The G symbolizes that you are a real and true G. Anthems, profile backgrounds, and banners aren't required because I don't have time to check all of that, but it is strongly encouraged. If you're found to have de-konged yourself before the end of the event (TBD at this time), you will LOSE YOUR G.
If you've kongmaxxed your name, leave a comment in this thread - https://rdrama.net/post/338843 - and I will review at end of event and badge those who stayed true to the faith.
BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE
ALL COINS FROM VOTES ARE DOUBLED
THAT'S EIGHT COINS PER THREAD VOTE AND TWO COINS PER COMMENT VOTE
AND ALSO
LOOTBOXES ARE BACK IN THE SHOP
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I have default to old reddit enabled in https://www.reddit.com/settings/preferences but it still shows new reddit.
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New York literally just invented garbage cans
I'm sure it cost the city tens of billions of dollars to pilot this program.
Orange sight: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42918425
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Holy shit it is bleak. There are three Harry Potter books in there and two Hunger Games books in there in the top 10 best books.
Then you compare it to the best books of the 20th century ( still one harry potter book in there in top 10 but they are still doing way better than the 21st century.
How did the quality of the "greatest" works fall down so quickly. It is like humanity has forgotten how to write anything with any depth anymore and it is all at the level of quality of teenage story writing.
Is it simply over for the writing genre as a whole or is it that the best quality writing is actually no longer being recognized as the best because it didn't sell enough copies nor got enough appreciation from writing critics, or is it that there is a complete disconnect between what the average person considers enjoyable writing and what is considered actually good high brow writing?
I think it is a shift in medium where all the people looking for depth and high quality in their literary works moved on to movies and video games instead and all who are still hanging around the writing genre are those who will pick a random niche and the general books based on lowest common denominator which is teenage angst or teenage wonderment slop.
What this means is that the writing genre is going to keep going further down in quality over time and we need to look at the possible extinction of reading one day if everything turns out to be possible to be done by video because people are clearly getting worse at appreciating literature while getting a whole lot better at their expectations and appreciation of better video entertainment content.
Conclusion:
In terms of ease of entry into the writing department this is the easiest time period. In terms of making money from it, likely one of the harder time periods. We can expect the quality of writing meant for general audiences to have reached the lowest floor and never rise above it again this generation. The Zoom zooms are too r-slurred when it comes to quality writing in just a book.
Also if you still read Harry Potter books, READ ANOTHER BOOK!
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The page owner asks the real questions lol
1. "Are incels correct that HR only started to exist when women began entering the workplace?"
2. "sending this meme next time I get rejected" "thanks for the brilliant idea!"
3. "Deal with HR the way you deal with police AHRAB" "incredibly based, sir"
Moid opinion of HR vs Foid opinion of HR
4. "HR is like giving children pointless tasks and then saying you were great help, little buddy" "Hating HR is like hating the waiter for bad food tbh. Stop being crybabies"
Emo chick posts that McDonalds rejecting email someone posted here a few days ago
5. "just saw this" "been there..."
6. "In Australia it's a scam to get government funding" "yup"
7. This one is good
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This is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen pic.twitter.com/0wkJA1TLt0
— Lauren McKenzie (@TheMcKenziest) February 4, 2025
Now playing: Mining Melancholy (DKC2).mp3