TLDR: Youtuber of the Sheiy-like genre sneaks into Bohemian Grove and records the Cremation of Care ceremony, uploads it to his channel. It gets copyright striked, so he reuploads it on his Patreon.

What's interesting here is that this isn't a Rusty Shackleford Epstein Island Drone Footage situation, this here is a well-established channel. According to this video, this isn't his first time sneaking in, and he believes his life is in danger because of it. Almost as if posting it next to your barely-concealed face on your popular and public YouTube channel is a great idea if you don't want to get caught

Or posting it on a platform where the local uniformed freemasons police department can pull your payment info at the drop of a hat Clearly someone with a strong self-preservation instinct who believes he is uploading compromising information for the public to see, at risk of his own life and limb

https://rumble.com/v58jdg4-full-2024-bohemian-grove-cremation-of-care-ceremony.html

Unfortunately for our hero, some Alt Tech boomers beat him to the punch and you can watch it for free. The ceremony itself is exactly as LGBTQIAP+ and Developmentally Delayed as Richard Nixon described it.

I now pass the question onto you, dramasisters: Would you risk being tortured to death by three letter agents if it meant you could get upmarseys and boomer paypigbux?

I'd rather watch my wife get railed 10,000 times over than betray family in Ukraine by throwing them under the bus to win an internet debate you coward, spineless fuck. Next time you moderate a debate, brush your teeth, first, so we don't have to smell Putin's load on your… https://t.co/WCMZmydTd2

— Destiny (@TheOmniLiberal) July 14, 2024

!boozers let's just hope the highway to heck has enough 7/11's to stock up on Heineken

This is awesome honestly.

Also, you're totally giving off a Winry from Fullmetal Alchemist vibe

Kill All Weebs

to add, I've been suffering with the most intense emotional flashbacks and have been able to leave my bed only for 4h every day. I also have chronic fatigue and hoping to get on disability with the official diagnosis.

women are a meme

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraines-top-diplomat-meets-chinas-wang-yi-talks-guangzhou-2024-07-24/

Ukraine tells China it is open to talks if Moscow acts in good faith

Khohols politician now saying that they never talked about 1991 borders

Podoljak the true leader of khoholstan

Tells how Ukraine is going to capture Crimea in 2023 and how he will drink coffee in Crimea

Now says 1991 border were never the goal

Meanwhile Zaluzhnyy in UK

Tells how man that run away from mobilisation to the western countries should be punished.

In China, Ukraine also did an Anime betrayal

It told China it's fully support China on Taiwan shoot out to all my bros with Taiwan and Ukrainian flags in their nicknames.

The Ukrainian new plan or how they call it fair it's 2021 borders. They want that Russian just retreat to those borders

Another fun thing happened in Ukraine is this guy:

He worked as mobilisation officer and filmed how he beaten people and forcefully mobilised them

Dude giga r-slur obviously so he was fired and now tells Russian want to kill him

So he is asking security and asylum from government

They are always looking for a way to take advantage of others, and are constantly stealing and sabotaging each other, contributing to their general misery. In poor countries the media tries to glorify the culture and good-will of the lower classes, but those lower classes don't get to stand 100m from them without their bodyguards dog-piling them.

Even among the poors, the first thing someone that gets any modicum of wealth does is moving to a closed-off condominium and acquiring a bullet-proof suv so they don't ever have to interact with those people again. And that is the smart thing to do, because otherwise their former friends would try everything to sabotage them behind their back, unable to cope with someone other than them going up in life.

The only way to solve their rotten nature would be a chink-like reeducation camp where favela-dwellers learn to behave more like jews and less like gipsies.

So I was cleaning my brother's room. I wandered around while he was at the gym with his friends. I came across the pills I was looking at the different ones he had on his desk. I wanted to steal some so bad. I mean... my brother has always been pretty lean but suddenly he started seizing out while he was studying on the computer two years ago. He's an information tech student so he spends a lot of time in front of screens and needs these meds to prevent that from happening.

Okay... this is the horrible part and i need to confess this because its been eating at me and I've felt very very guilty for doing. I would steal seven 25 mg pills every month and he would have a lot of pills for the rest of the month. Id take one every week and it would supress my appetite the whole week.

Whenever he runs out of medications fast he tells my mom and she yells at him that he must have taken him in his sleep and he would be really sad he even told me to keep them with me at one point so that he doesn't take them while he's asleep. 😭

They don't know I'm taking it that I stole from him just to keep losing weight easily. I was envious because he's always skinny and its making him not eat and lose more weight and when he doesn't take them he eats a lot.

Now mom is mad at him and its all my fault please help me how can I tell him I stole how can I make it up for him he knows I'm anorexic and he's been very supportive he cooks for me sometimes and makes sure to ask me if I ate many times a day

I'm a shitty sister i hate myself I hate this disease 💔

now the commenters are split on whether this is based or cringe

even op isnt sure whether she should keep doing it

anyway the obvious solution to learning that the pills only have a 24hr half life is to take one of them every day

problem solved

anyway there are hundreds of comments of her going back and forth between wanting more pills and feeling like she has to come clean and its pretty funny

!thin !vegana problems

I remember reading the couple and then one from way further in the series since I didn't know the order and a comic / manga thing.

That shit was a real trip.

Wonder if there was cat fascism eventually

reminiscent of

2013 - Residents of south east Baton Rouge, Louisiana attempt to gather 20,000 signatures which would enable it to put the independence vote on the ballot and form a breakaway city named St. George.

The key reasons cited for this is to create a new school district, as well as to have more control over their tax money.

Let me spell it out: North BR is poor and black, south BR is mostly white and much more well off. You fill in the blanks.

Additional context from redditor:

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1ssi7t/st_george_school_district_would_extend_beyond/

As a bit of background:

St. George is 'underseated', there are roughly 10k public school students in the area, but only 4k spots in the schools. Presently, this works out okay enough, because the remaining 6k students either go to magnet schools in mid-city, or they go to schools that are just inside the city limits (like the Mayfairs or the Broadmoors).

A number of times in the past two years, this was brought up. Originally, the St. George organizers said that they were going to be fine with the original 7 schools outside of the city limits.

Then they said that they're need to build 5-7 new schools. They were asked how they'd afford to do so. They said that they'd be able to do so without any new taxes (which would be quite the accomplishment).

I think they realized the folly of that, and are now trying to go back and say that St. George will have two separate school districts, one of which will take a portion of the incorporated city of Baton Rouge with it - the rationale here is to grab four schools just inside the city limits to relieve pressure on the schools outside of the city limits.

I think that at present, it's becoming evident that the St. George movement leaders basically have a lot of anger and fear, but not much in the way of administrative chops or political forethought. (The omission of magnet/gifted programs in the St. George school district being another prime example of this)

2014 - Not everyone is onboard. The Mall of Louisiana and two of Baton Rouge's biggest hospitals ask to be annexed into the City of Baton Rouge.

Literally who journoid does an early victory lap

And this, I believe, is the takeaway from the attempted breakaway: The folks behind this campaign aren't good citizens; they never fully understood their own privilege; they never considered that, ultimately, what they were asking was for their neighbors to put the City of Baton Rouge on the brink of bankruptcy and financial collapse in order to allow them to create a new majority white school district. It was outrageous. It was myopic.

The campaign relied heavily on disseminating stories about fights, drug use, and the confiscation of guns at public schools as a way of arguing that the system itself was institutionally flawed and beyond repair. I've followed these folks on social media for months. They have no interest in actually solving the problems. That's not why they call attention to stories that are common in almost every urban public school district in America. No, this is about scaring people; specifically, it's about scaring white people.

2015 - The petition is submitted, however falls short by 71 signatures. An appeal to recount is thrown out.

Crime rates will continue to increase in the next few years, while the schools continue to decline.

2018 - A second petition is submitted, with a smaller city proposed

2019 - The East Baton Rouge Parish Registrar of Voters declares that the petition has enough valid signatures (at least 12,996 required; 14,585 accepted) to meet the requirements for eligibility. In March, Louisiana Gov. John Edwards authorizes adding the petition to the October 12, 2019, ballot.

Does us all a favor and stfu, or walk out into traffic. Your line of thinking is what's wrong with this state. Rich get richer and poor have no choice but to stay poor. The state has repeatedly fricked over the African American community 1000x Times over. Oh we need to build an interstate, build it right In the middle of the black communities with no shielding or sound abatement or anything.

A thousand frick you's to you and yours

Of the more than 54,000 registered voters living in the St. George area, approximately 32,293 (60%) cast ballots, with 17,422 (54%) voting in favor of incorporation.

Welcome to St George. City motto: "I'm not racist, but..."

If I am going to have to change my address to say St. George instead of Baton Rouge, I am going to be sick to my stomach.

I think the only thing this did was confirm that our state has uneducated shitholes for residents.

No. It confirms our state has racist shitholes for residents.

Access to white people is not a human right.

| Being surrounded by white people affords a better opportunity than being surrounded by black people.

Please defend this sentiment.

Uhhh what? Get out of here with that straw man.

| They're racist for making their own city!

So they're racist becuase they are separating themselves?

| That's a strawman argument!

Go ahead sport. Explain how they're racist. Once you do that, we can readdress my "strawman." Because we both know that I read your sentiment perfectly and addressed it appropriately.

But still... explain how they're racist.

Jesus dude. Just because you try to spin my words in arguments that aren't being made, doesn't make your comments what I said.

The whites are separating themselves from the blacks. Racist. The end.

Also, attempting to insult by calling someone sport is pretty telling on how your argument holds no weight. But keep telling yourself you're not the bad guy, sport.

| The whites are separating themselves from the blacks. Racist. The end.

Exactly. So not a strawman at all, turns out.

ACCESS TO WHITE PEOPLE IS NOT A HUMAN RIGHT.

I'm not a bad guy. You're the angry one. Because a community wanted to support themselves doesn't make them racist.

| "Sport" is an insult!

Ha ha. Ok.

What holds no weight? What makes it racist? Because black people are involved?

Why is it racist, champ? Please, explain.

Argument continues for awhile: https://old.reddit.com/r/Louisiana/comments/dh5ztn/voters_in_southeast_east_baton_rouge_parish_say/f3olfgl/?context=8

It's amazing that not all of BR was allowed to vote on this. It affects them as well!

What's worse is that it affects the entire parish but only the incorporated area was allowed to vote. I see lengthy lawsuits in the future because of this.

>nooo you're not allowed to leave

The City of Baton Rouge immediately begins legal action to contest the incorporation, before the Governor can appoint an interim mayor and interim city council. (Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broom, Lewis O. Unglesby, and M.E. Cormier vs. Chris Rials and Norman Browning, Organizers of the Petition to Incorporate St. George)

2022 - The 19th Judicial District Court rules against the incorporation of St. George

Citing state law governing "Legal action contesting an incorporation":

If the district court determines that the provisions of this Subpart have not been complied with, that the proposed municipality will not be able to provide the public services proposed in the petition within a reasonable period of time, or that the incorporation is unreasonable, the district court shall enter an order denying the incorporation. La. R.S. 33:4(E)(2)(a)

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/theadvocate.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/9b/59bcb2e2-e134-11ec-a83f-bbba09287506/62969cec349cf.pdf.pdf

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/article_10498e50-e125-11ec-aeaf-7fadc69b2c3a.html

Council Pro Tem LaMont Cole, who along with Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome sued in 2019 to block the incorporation, celebrated the ruling Tuesday and called on both parties to work together to address the problems that prompted the push for incorporation.

"We need to work diligently to work through the issues that we have to improve the quality of life in Baton Rouge," Cole said. "We can best do that if we remain together. For now, I'm proud of where we are and the opportunity we have to move forward as one Baton Rouge."

The plaintiffs argued that St. George's organizers discriminated against Black residents by intentionally excluding the majority-Black and low-income areas of Gardere and Belaire from the 2018 incorporation petition boundaries. Those areas were included in a 2014 attempt to incorporate that voters denied.

Coady rejected that argument, writing that the plaintiffs failed to provide compelling evidence that the boundaries were purposely drawn to exclude minority communities. St. George's organizers argued during the trial that the areas were only omitted because they had a low signature count during the first campaign in 2013 to incorporate St. George.

The judge said a perception of a racial motive might exist, "but the incorporators have provided a racially neutral reason why certain areas were excluded and not purposely drawn in a racially discriminatory fashion," Coady wrote.

Murrell (spokesman for St. George) said he wasn't surprised by that aspect of the ruling because Cole and Broome did not "provide one shred of evidence to the contrary."

Cole called it "obvious" that the boundaries were at least drawn to exclude low-income communities, which also include a higher percentage of minorities. But he said it mattered little because of the broader ruling.

"I understand that it may not have been racially motivated based off the evidence the judge saw, but some financial levels were certainly left out," Cole said.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Louisiana/comments/v23yeh/judge_denies_incorporation_of_new_city_of_st/

Oh noes, the racists didn't think shit through. What are the odds?

2023 - The Louisiana First Circuit Court of Appeals upholds the decision to deny the incorporation of St. George

https://www.wafb.com/2023/07/18/no-matter-what-it-takes-st-george-organizers-will-appeal-decision-la-supreme-court-start-process-over-if-necessary/

"We affirm the June 13, 2022 judgment of the trial court denying the incorporation," the First Circuit Court said, "because the petition failed to comply with the requirements of La. R.S. 33:1(A)(4)." (p. 25) This section includes the following requirement: A listing of the public services the municipal corporation proposes to render to the area and a plan for the provision of these services. The court said that "although the petition listed the services that would be provided, the petition did not provide ... a plan for the provision of those services." (p. 25) The court also held that a statement in the petition that "services will be provided subject to the availability of funds derived from taxes, license fees, permits, and other revenue which becomes available to the municipality and are authorized by state law' does not constitute a plan for the provision of those services as required by La. R.S. 33:1." (p. 25)

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/14zjj2b/appeals_court_rules_against_st_george/

Racists seething

Must be hard going through life thinking everyone is out to get you

Dude so dumb to comment. StGeorge is racist, no matter what you tell yourself. It's also shitty to do to your home.

How is it racist?

Look at the property lines they drew up. It excludes very particular areas

The original map included all of Gardere, and very clear drew around the unincorporated areas of BR. Gardere asked to not be included in the second attempt. The second map again drew around the unincorporated areas, which this time were reduced due to some areas petitioning to be annexed by BR after round 1. It's all geographical, you're the ones applying race to it

Lol you try to defend the map? You aren't commenting in good faith. You cannot believe any of your comment right? If you know anything about BR and look at the map, You know it's racist and hurts Baton Rouge, only reason you support it so you can sell your house for more money.

BAD FAITH

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/14zjj2b/appeals_court_rules_against_st_george/js6moso/?context=8

Your racist whites only "utopia" will have to wait. (12 months ago)

They didn't wait long huh? (2 months ago)

April 26, 2024 - The Louisiana State Supreme Court affirms the incorporation of the City of St. George in a 4-3 decision

https://law.justia.com/cases/louisiana/supreme-court/2024/2023-c-01108.html

Does incorporation affect an existing city within three miles? "Also, the statute does not limit the adverse impact factor to economics. Evidence shows that Baton Rouge can actually be positively affected by St. George's growing population. Those people and their money will stay in the parish. This increases revenues and improves quality of life across the parish. This factor favors incorporation."

Will incorporation affect the interest of landowners in the affected area? "Landowners and residents of St. George will benefit by their sales tax revenue being used on needs specific to St. George. Again, because of the nature of the consolidated City-Parish government, Baton Rouge has arguably experienced a windfall by collecting taxes in St. George without returning proportionate money and services. Incorporation will allow the money paid by St. George citizens to stay in St. George. This factor favors incorporation."

Is the cost of operating the municipality prohibitive? "This factor is previously analyzed under the ability to provide public services within a reasonable period of time. We find St. George's revenue will cover its operating costs. This factor favors incorporation."

"Cole has the statutory right to challenge the incorporation of St. George. However, his real and actual interest is limited to the adverse impact incorporation will have on Baton Rouge, a municipality in the vicinity, and whether St. George can timely provide services. Despite the challenge, we conclude St. George can provide public services within a reasonable period of time. Applying objective factors to determine reasonableness, we hold incorporation is reasonable. We reverse the lower courts' denial of incorporation and render judgment in favor of Proponents."

https://old.reddit.com/r/Louisiana/comments/1cftkc0/congratulations_to_st_george/

Still crazy how they carved out two majority black neighborhoods located almost in the center of their "City of St. George" map, basically making them an island surrounded by a different city. Like, I understand leaving out the section behind them where Topgolf and Lowe's are, but what was the point of leaving out those two neighborhoods?

The point was those neighborhoods overwhelmingly voted against incorporation the first attempt, they were included, and they opted out.

Oh I think you know.

Oh I do know. I think it just hasn't truly sunk in yet lol

They didn't want to be included. That information is out there but crying racism seems to be easier. Feelings not facts!

Glad you support segregation

how is this segregation?? there are still many black and latinx ppl in st george. no one is being forced to move. no one is being shunned.

most of my neighbors are black. how come we werent cut out?? oh yea.. because we voted YES to incorporate.

st george has behaved more like a community with mixed demographics than BR ever did iny 30yrs there

70% white . . . Sorry if I doubt your "many black and Latinx" comment.

a city being mostly white doesnt mean all the neighborhoods are mostly white 🙄🤦‍♀️💁‍♀️ thats like saying there are no mostly white neighborhoods in BR because its a mostly black city 😂

>70%

>segregation

Did some digging, because everyone was talking about the "majority black communities that were left out of st george."

Looks like they were originally included, but voted no, and were removed. They literally opted out.

That is not opting out. The SG lost because it didn't have the votes. So, the losers changed the rules and gerrymandered the "No" votes out. Saying they opted out is not the story. The story is losers lost so they changed the rules to win. Actually that's pretty typical Louisiana behavior, no? Ignoring the will of the majority for the will of the elite!?!?

thats not gerrymandering. by cutting those areas out, they WERE respecting the majority vote of the black areas that voted no for their being incorporated.

so how in tf were they ignoring the will of the majority??

they just followed how the system of democracy works. no rules were changed. the rules were simply followed. you cannot force areas to incorporate in their majority vote was no.

Why didn't they respect the 46% of areas that didn't vote for St George?

Was it convenient to annex swaths of locations where supporters of St George knew that those swaths voted no?

Frick em! I'd be mad but they are going to belly flop so hard it's really gonna be fun.

you mean like central and zachary?

No I mean like a bunch of idiots who thought they could keep their tax dollars from North BR, whilst forgetting that the political power in St Georgie mostly rests with people who use private school and can contract garbage pickup through their nice butt neighbor assoc.

Most of the rubes that voted for this dumb shit just became the poor people in their new city and they honestly believe that's going to work out for them.... "He look over there those rich people are also white I'm sure they'll vote for our collective interest and help improve ma schools and make sure my garbage is picked up..."

you seem so bitter, to the point where it seems you'd be more upset to see st george succeed, than fail

Frick em the most charitable interpretation is they wanted to keep all the tax dollars they earn in baton rouge for themselves while the city falls to shit. A more accurate interpretation is they want to keep their tax dollars out of North Baton Rouge because they're racist pricks.

Am I bitter with the racist politics and pricks in St Georgie...sure would be if they had any chance of success even if the bar of success is cough central...

Real quick…how many tax dollars does NBR contribute compared to SBR? Exactly. Why should one half have to subsidize the other? SBR has been subsidizing EBRPSS for decades now. STG asked for more investment in schools in their half of the parish and they were laughed at and told to go form their own city and then maybe they would. So they did just as they were told. SBR doesn't owe NBR shit.

No worries I'll give you some teaching. Clearly you missed high school civics, and I sympathize that you're highest level of education is the Joe Rogan Evacuation. So when you pay your taxes they go to your society and it spends them on things like educations for people who can't afford private education (you know like your kids because you wouldn't give a shit otherwise).

So here is the deal you live in baton rouge, I bet you work in baton rouge, your favorite bars and restaurants are in baton rouge you have all the benefits of living in an actual city with 221,453 people. But instead of contributing to things like the public school system you guys want to leach off the city while making sure every cent of your tax dollars gets spent on your kids, roads, and cops (cluch ur pearls poor people are soo scary).

Don't lie when people ask you tell them you are from Baton Rouge, but when you pay your taxes you want to be from St. Georgie (St. Georgie proud what a ring to it). You think you should get more tax dollars per kid then the other kids in the public school system. But thats not how its works.

The sad facts are you jackasses don't have the money to swing your peepees at private school so you think you can just leach off those tax dollars from the BRCC but news flash you got your own city now, and its not NBR that are the poor folks its YOU and BRCC and all the other nice subs that can afford private trash pick up, private schools, private road resurfacing, and private security are going to railroad you, your public schools, your trash pickup, and your (formerly privileged) rug rats so hard your going to wish you could afford a public school in NBR.

Real quick…how many tax dollars does NBR contribute compared to SBR? Exactly.

You want the answer...it doesnt matter we don't decide how much to spend on a child's education by how much their neighborhood pays in taxes for reasons even your kids could explain to you...at least until your new neighbors cut their educations funding. Nurture...or clearly nature your crotch goblins are screwed.

Leech off the city huh…STG has propped up the city, in particularly NBR, for decades. Stop being mad at white folks for subsidizing black folks. Get off your butt and go work to make your community better instead of blaming others for what you don't have.

You are so delusional it's almost concerning. Keep thinking NBR is worth a frick. BR is about to crumble unless your community gets their shit together…don't worry, I'll wait.

>w-we didn't need your tax money anyways!

That meme is wrong because the St George area was designed to exclude African Americans. My brother used to live in that area and fought hard against an incorporation because of lack of diversity.

False. The predominantly black neighborhoods did not want to be included in STG so they drew the lines around those neighborhoods per THEIR wants.

Not according to Maxine Crump and Dialog on Race in Louisiana.

The facts are out there. The first STG map had those neighborhoods included. When it failed the first time, they went back and excluded the neighborhoods that overwhelmingly voted against it and redrew the map. Of course this doesn't fit the narrative but it's straight facts.

Wouldn't St George become majority black anyways in a few decades due to white flight?

In a perfect world.

Power to your people, brother 💪🏿

Congratulations! I'm Swedish in Sweden, but for some reason I've been following this whole thing.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Louisiana/comments/1cgzprs/has_anyone_heard_about_the_new_town_created_near/

Gonna say the quiet part out loud. Sounds like they wanted to get out the ghetto. Black, white, racism call it what you want. 13:50. But it's more like 6:50

Entitled White People At Work.

Democracy and voting at work*

Democracy and voting have absolutely nothing to do with segregation and white supremacists. Pretending to be a patriot and not even knowing the definition is sad.

Like a lot of politics inside the Republican party, it's all about race.

People voted, democracy won. Cry more

Coming from the party pushing dei and unfair admissions standards at universities lol

https://old.reddit.com/r/Louisiana/comments/1dq0cpr/louisiana_supreme_court_rejects_rehearing_on_city/

They didn't want to be part of the black people's city, right? If I remember correctly the white people's neighborhood just tried to make itself a mostly white city for voting reasons…

St. George was part of unincorporated EBR, not the city. My understanding was that this all started because the city-parish government would not build a new high school in their area, so they wanted to form their own city so they could have an Independent School District (ISD).

That's their "official" reason. The actual reason is racism.

St George has a higher percentage of minorities than the rest of unincorporated EBR. They have nearly the same racial makeup as the overall parish.

In what way does St George coming into existence change the City of BR or even EBR schools? City of BR is totally separate from anything incorporated into St George.

So ignorant of the situation you likely can't even explain how an area with the same racial makeup of the Parish it resides in is racially excluding a particular group. Just yelling racism because you were told to.

More cope:

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1clkf9p/st_george_split_from_br/

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1cdsdm8/st_george_la_supreme_court_rules_in_favor/

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1dxlmwu/redditors_who_live_in_st_george_but_voted_against/

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1cdutfq/st_george_vs_the_dragging/

https://old.reddit.com/r/batonrouge/comments/1cfay8u/protect_ebrpss/

One thing Myspace had going for it: it was exuberantly ugly. The decision to let users with no design training loose on a highly customizable user-interface led to a proliferation of Myspace pages that vibrated with personality.

The ugliness of Myspace wasn't just exciting in a kind of outsider/folk-art way (though it was that). Myspace's ugliness was an anti-cooption force-field, because corporate designers and art-directors would, by and large, rather break their fingers and gouge out their eyes than produce pages that looked like that.

In this regard, Myspace was the heir to successive generations of "design democratization" that gave amateur communities, especially countercultural ones, a space to operate in where authentic community members could be easily distinguished between parasitic commercializers.

The immediate predecessors to Myspace's ugliness-as-a-feature were the web, and desktop publishing. Between the img tag, imagemaps, the blink tag, animated GIFs, and the million ways that you could weird a page with tables and padding, the early web was positively bursting with individual personality. The early web balanced in an equilibrium between the plunder-friendliness of "view source" and the topsy-turvy design imperatives of web-based layout, which confounded both print designers (no fixed fonts! RGB colorspaces! dithering!) and even multimedia designers who'd cut their teeth on Hypercard and CD ROMs (no fixed layout!).

Before the web came desktop publishing, the million tractor-feed ransom notes combining Broderbund Print Shop fonts, joystick-edited pixel-art, and a cohort of enthusiasts ranging from punk zinesters to community newsletter publishers. As this work proliferated on coffee-shop counters and telephone poles, it was visibly, obviously distinct from the work produced by "real" designers - that is, designers who'd been a) trained and b) paid by a corporation to employ that training.

All of this matters, and not just for aesthetic reasons. Communities - especially countercultural ones - are where our society's creative ferment starts. Getting your start in the trenches of the counterculture wars is no proof against being co-opted later (indeed, many of the designers who cut their teeth desktop publishing weird zines went on to pull their hair and roll their eyes at the incredible fuggliness of the web). But without that zone of noncommercial, antiestablishment, communitarian low weirdness, design and culture would stagnate.

I started thinking about this 25 years ago, the first time I met William Gibson. I'd been assigned by the Globe and Mail to interview him for the launch of All Tomorrow's Parties:

https://craphound.com/nonfic/transcript.html

One of the questions I asked was about his famous aphorism, "The street finds its own use for things." Given how quickly each post-punk tendency had been absorbed by commercial culture, couldn't we say that "Madison Avenue finds its own use for the street"? His answer started me down a quarter-century of thinking and writing about this subject:

I worry about what we'll do in the future, [about the instantaneous co-opting of pop culture]. Where is our new stuff going to come from? What we're doing pop culturally is like burning the rain forest. The biodiversity of pop culture is really, really in danger. I didn't see it coming until a few years ago, but looking back it's very apparent.

I watch a sort of primitive form of the recommodification machine around my friends and myself in sixties, and it took about two years for this clumsy mechanism to get and try to sell us The Monkees.

In 1977, it took about eight months for a slightly faster more refined mechanism to put punk in the window of Holt Renfrew. It's gotten faster ever since. The scene in Seattle that Nirvana came from: as soon as it had a label, it was on the runways of Paris.

Ugliness, transgressiveness and shock all represent an incoherent, grasping attempt to keep the world out of your demimonde - not just normies and squares, but also and especially enthusiastic marketers who want to figure out how to sell stuff to you, and use you to sell stuff to normies and squares.

I think this is what drove a lot of people to 4chan (remember, before 4chan was famous for incubating neofascism, it was the birthplace of Anonymous): its shock culture, combined with a strong cultural norm of anonymity, made for a difficult-to-digest, thoroughly spiky morsel that resisted recommodification (for a while).

All of this brings me to AI art (or AI "art"). In his essay on the "eerieness" of AI art, Henry Farrell quotes Mark Fisher's "The Weird and the Eerie":

https://www.programmablemutter.com/p/large-language-models-are-uncanny

"Eeriness" here is defined as "when there is something present where there should be nothing, or is there is nothing present when there should be something." AI is eerie because it produces the seeming of intent, without any intender:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/13/spooky-action-at-a-close-up/#invisible-hand

When we contemplate "authentic" countercultural work - ransom-note DTP, the weird old web, seizure-inducing Myspace GIFs - it is arresting because the personality of the human entity responsible for it shines through. We might be able to recognize where that person ganked their source-viewed HTML or pixel-optimized GIF, but we can also make inferences about the emotional meaning of those choices. To see that work is to connect to a mind. That mind might not necessarily belong to someone you want to be friends with or ever meet in person, but it is unmistakably another person, and you can't help but learn something about yourself from the way that their work makes you feel.

This is why corporate work is so often called "soulless." The point of corporate art is to dress the artificial person of the corporation in the stolen skins of the humans it uses as its substrate. Corporations are potentially immortal, artificial colony organisms. They maintain the pretense of personality, but they have no mind, only action that is the crescendo of an orchestra of improvised instruments played by hundreds or thousands of employees and a handful of executives who are often working directly against one another:

https://locusmag.com/2022/03/cory-doctorow-vertically-challenged/

The corporation is - as Charlie Stross has it - the "slow AI" that is slowly converting our planet to the long-prophesied grey goo (or, more prosaically, wildfire ashes and boiled oceans). The real thing that is signified by CEOs' professed fears of runaway AI is runaway corporations. As Ted Chiang says, the experience of being nominally in charge of a corporation that refuses to do what you tell it to is the kind of thing that will give you nightmares about autonomous AI turning on its masters:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/09/autocomplete-worshippers/#the-real-ai-was-the-corporations-that-we-fought-along-the-way

The job of corporate designers is to find the signifiers of authenticity and dress up the corporate entity's robotic imperatives in this stolen flesh. Everything about AI is done in service to this goal: the chatbots that replace customer service reps are meant to both perfectly mimic a real, competent corporate representative while also hewing perfectly to corporate policy, without ever betraying the real human frailties that none of us can escape.

In the same way, the shillbots that pretend to be corporate superfans online are supposed to perfectly amplify the corporate message, the slow AI's conception of its own virtues, without injecting their own off-script, potentially cringey enthusiasms.

The Hollywood writers' strike was, at root, about the studio execs' dream that they could convert the "insights" of focus groups and audience research into a perfect script, without having to go through a phalanx of lippy screenwriters who insisted on explaining why they think your idea is stupid. "Hey, nerd, make me another ET, except make the hero a dog, and set it on Mars" is exactly how you prompt an AI:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/20/everything-made-by-an-ai-is-in-the-public-domain/

Corporate design's job is to produce the seeming of intention without any intender. The "personality" we're meant to sense when we encounter corporate design isn't the designer's, nor the art director's, nor even the CEO's. The "personality" is meant to be the slow AI's, but a corporation doesn't have a personality.

In his 2018 short story "Noon in the antilibrary," Karl Schroeder describes an "antilibrary" as an endlessly deep anaerobic lagoon of generative botshit:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/08/18/104097/noon-in-the-antilibrary/

The antilibrary is a generative AI system that can produce entire librarys'-worth of fake books with fake authors, fake citations by other fake experts with their own fake books and biographies and fake social media accounts, on-demand and instantly. It was speculation in 2018; it's possible now. Creating an antilibrary is just a matter of investing in a sufficient number of graphics cards and electricity.

https://kschroeder.substack.com/p/after-the-internet

Reading Karl's reflections on the antilibrary crystallized something for me that I've been thinking about for a quarter-century, since I interviewed Gibson at the Penguin offices in north Toronto. It snapped something into place that I've trying to fit since encountering Henry's thoughts on the "eeriness" of AI work and the intent without an intender.

It made me realize why I dislike AI art so much, on a deep, aesthetic level. The point of an image generator is to buffer the intention of the prompter (which might be genuinely creative and bursting with personality) in layers of automated decision-making that flense the final product of any hint of the mind that caused its creation.

The most febrile, deeply weird and authentic prompts of the most excluded outsiders produce images that feel the same as the corporate AI illustrations that project the illusion of personality from the immortal, transhuman colony organism that is the limited liability corporation.

AI art is born coopted. Even the 4chan equivalent of AI - the deeply transgressive and immoral nonconsensual pornography - feels no different from the "official" AI porn churned out by "real" pornographers. "Shrimp Jesus" and other SEO-optimized Facebook slop is so uncanny because it is simultaneously "weird" ("that which does not belong") and yet it belongs in the same aesthetic bucket of the most anodyne Corporate Memphis ephemera:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis

We call it "generative" but AI art can't generate the kind of turnover that aerates the aesthetic soil. An artform that can't be transgressive is sterile, stillborn, a dead end.

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there is so much negativity on here that I don't even let myself scroll for too long because I don't want my head filled with all this toxicity. I'm absolutely in love with this game I cannot remember the last time I had this much fun playing a shooter so can't be bothered to even read other people's bullshit. I miss when people would get on the internet to talk about and interact with things they enjoy. these days it's just hate hate hate (12)

That's quite sad given that pretty much every other shooter is better than this garbage (-10)

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This is a public forum related to the game. Plenty of posts here give valid criticisms of the game. While you're right that it is only the beta, I'm not sure comparing it to Heck Divers 2 is an accurate comparison. Different type of game, and already had a small but dedicated fan base. Streamers and social media in general, made it huge, and it got a ton of exposure. This game is most likely destined to the same fate as other paid shooters. Eventually reduced in price, then free to play, with a very small but stable small player base. (-5)

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It was made for discussion of the game.The last of the modes it will ship with was released today, per the developers.Let people be. You're not going to stop anyone from posting by writing this...this post is just more noise. Get on the game and have some fun, if that's what you're after.Cheers. (-6)

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There are just as many fanboys here as trolls. Any critical post of the game, even if it's completely valid and makes sense, gets downmarseyd to oblivion. That's not healthy.It's also clear that there are a ton of people here who didn't play the beta, are here to troll, and want the game to fail.Either way, this subreddit sucks and will continue to suck until the game comes out and actual gameplay posts outnumber the troll/fanboy ones. (1)

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By far. The Joel thing was so cringe I almost just quit playing on the spot. I've learned to support with my wallet since then. Let nature take its course. (-2)

I got his death spoiled for me before the game came out. For 4 years I didn't play the game past 10 mins when they gave me control of Abby. Threw that b-word of the cliff 8 times to see if I could get an alternate story like the far cry games. I should have left it at that. (0)

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I have played beta and I liked it. I'm so full of F2P/P2W/FOMO games that many live service - games are these days and I like this pay-up-front what games used to be. Game is not perfect but with updates and patches I would give solid 7.5 - 8. But... It is taxing to be fan of this game. I'm not even sure should I buy this at launch or wait because all the hate and doa stuff surrounding this game. (5)

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What? No it has zero importance for me how high her body count is.

Would you date a porn star?

Yes. Why Not?

this is who gives you advice on reddit

but wait there's more:

Heck no. I had enough opportunities. And im in a Long Term relationship. But we are Not exclusive.

literally a cuck

I have my own worth. And its a pretty good Relation for nearly 9 years.

for 9 fricking years

People frick other people. Get over it.

So why not be in an open relationship? She's just fricking someone else, get over it. Stop being such an insecure control freak.

Body count criticism is for "little guys" insecure because of their failure to understand female anatomy.

Enjoying s*x is a good thing unless you want to marry someone that swats your hands away every night and leaves you in a sexless marriage.

Exactly.

The US is such a prude country. S*x is fun. As long as you're safe and everybody is on board, who cares. Who DOESNT like s*x?

I'm a dude and I wouldn't care if a girl I'm in a relationship slept with 5 or 500 guys. As long as she was safe about it and faithful.

Also. I honestly don't think I'd want to be in a serious relationship with a woman who had only two or three men she's slept with, I want her to get out and experience shit before she lands on me. Gotta get all that shit outta your system before settling down so you ain't wondering what else is out there 😂

>Gotta get all that shit outta your system before settling down so you ain't wondering what else is out there 😂

not insecure btw

If she doesn't respect herself then she won't respect you.

Clarity for the triggered:

The girl you marry loves s*x with her man or a few men as she finds herself and settles down with the right guy. Then it's tons of s*x with that guy all the time. That's a great life.

A hoe has no self respect and fricks random guys with no concern of the future. She's lacking internal validation and thinks she can find it on the next peepee. She goes from peepee to peepee looking for something she will never find.

If you want to keep defending hoes, have at it.

But how is having s*x not respecting yourself?

Do you want a wife who respects herself and tells you to go jerk off in the shower?

What's disrespectful about casual s*x?

And why do men complain so much about wanting s*x and still at the same time argue that women should stop having s*x? Isn't that shooting yourself in the peepee in a way?

But it's not very common for women to have 150 s*x partners per year. At all. That's pretty crazy actually. So why worry about it? Y'all are watching way too much porn.

And then when it comes down to it? The guy who you need to worry about with your new girlfriend? It's not the random stranger she had drunk s*x with once. It's the guy she was in love with and who fricked her 700 times and knew exactly what she liked.

S*x isn't a competitive sport. But a lot of men insist on making it a pissing competition. And then you have to at least be clear about who the real competition is.

Edit: try to not do this though. S*x is only good when you can have fun with it and play. Stop overthinking and competing. It'll only give you ED or premature ejaculation + mid orgasms. Sorta ruins it tbh.

it was obviously an exageration but 20 different guys in a year per example is still WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much, definitely a massive red flag. Heck even 5 different guys in a year is a bit excessive.

Doing anything at all, ever is a massive red flag.

Are you for real? What a priggish attitude 😂😂😂. I'd consider someone like you to be a red flag.

not to play devil's advocate here, but who would you prefer working on your car?

A brand new mechanic fresh from mechanic school who says, "I've never seen a car like this before?"

or

A mechanic who has fixed a few thousand cars who says, "Oh yeah, I know what to do, I'll take care of you?"

Xbox fans were saying MS is rich and would overstay PlayStation store and etc

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King Olympics

Even somehow united christian and lgbt

And yes that is a whole forum for Transformers I appreciate it because it's one of those OG Internet forums that long predates any contemporary social media.

Apologies if this is a little less cerebral than what /h/lit is used to but my understanding is that the Eisner Awards are supposed to be prestigious or something. Interesting that it went to a licensed comic — a Hasbro property about action figures of all things.

I've always maintained that the Transformers comics are actually pretty dope sci-fi comics. Really they're the only Transformers stories that have ever been more than just toy advertisements and I've been meaning to do effortposts on the Dreamwave and IDW runs. Pat Lee easily deserves one all to himself

Anyway do our resident !comicshitters have any opinions?