Haha and then I'm going to make this guy swim in doody. Lol. Lmao.

and MY girlfriend is an ANGEL while your WHORE is in a TORNADO. My BEST FRIEND is VIRGIL while you BIPOC GUELPHS are in HECK!!

Was Dante’s “Divine Comedy” the most acclaimed work of fan fiction in history?

Dante not only self inserts, but he puts his hero Virgil in his story, as the woman he simped for

EBONY DARK'NESS DEMENTIA RAVEN WAY

>And then I made an observation on the current events, and Virgil said I am smart and everybody clapped

I know this is shocking, but the main twink is actually a self-insert of the author!

Didn't the game of thrones guy say the fat guy was a sort of self insert? I never read the books, but I hated that fat useless sack of shit the entire show, who was repeatedly a fat useless sack of shit. If he was anything in the books like he was in the movies, I find the game of thrones writer guy to likely be a fat useless sack of shit.

I think one problem with self inserts is they’re more likely to be made flawless and always correct. I suppose they can be fine so long as they’re properly challenged by the narrative and given a proper arc.

the chad in 50 shades of grey is literally me

Plato writing Socrates

Confederacy of Dunces is essentially a self insert

Conan the Barbarian is allegedly a self insert because Howard got called a strag virgin so much with Dark Agnes de Chastillon being based on the school teacher he dated and when they broke up he shelved the unfinished second book

The Blind Owl is a self insert and is very good

In Search of Lost Time is essentially autobiographical

Self inserts are preferable to proxies given that sufficient sincerity is present, otherwise it comes across as shallow and self aggrandizing. Best to have your self insert novel be your suicide note or obscured enough that people don't know that your talking about yourself.

Is divine comedy a good read?

Member that /r/writing or whatever drama when a guy did a self-insert and got upset when everyone who read the story told him that it sucked because the protagonist had boring personality.

Metamorphosis - Kafka

Confessions Of A Mask - Mishima

Ulysses - James Joyce

Thy Tears Might Cease - Micheal Farrell

Those are my fave rn although my most hated is definitely Atlas Shrugged

I feel like there's a pretty clear difference between self inserts where the whole point is wish fulfillment vs. self inserts that serve as mouthpieces or devices aiding in the development of some larger theme. The former is pretty clearly what most people mean when they use the term 'self insert' whereas the latter is more like the author relying very heavily on their own experiences/thoughts to carry forward a particular narrative point.

That said, if we're going with an expansive view of the term, I'd say I enjoyed Tolstoy's self inserts a fair bit. His work is very preachy, so I can understand why he'd need to lean on a character like Levin in Anna Karenina to express his views, but I never felt like it was particularly harmful to the larger narrative, especially considering how much of it is taken up by other perspectives.

For bad self inserts, I'd say just about any weebshit has to take the cake. "Oh look, the hikkomori libertarian feels kinda bad about being a male feminist, and is socially awkward. How relatable."

Michael Crichton using Ian Malcolm as his mouthpiece across two books worth of 🔥🔥🔥 manifestos about genetics and extinction, and successfully selling them to the world by wrapping the sermons in some very kino dinocutery has always been my favorite.

Heinlein has a few self inserts but Lazarus Long is the funniest because of how far off the deep end he went with the incest stuff in Time Enough For Love.

Tom Robbins comes to mind, but he doesn’t self-insert as the protagonist. his protagonists are almost always young working class women, and Tom Robbins inevitably shows up as Dr Chad Free Spirit Thunderpeepee who fricks these women into hippie enlightenment. it sounds extremely r-slurred when i type it out like that lmao but i actually think Another Roadside Attraction and Jitterbug Perfume are two of the most enjoyable books to come out of that whole 1960s-70s west coast literary scene.

'orus 'eresy? 'uts 'at? I'm roitin' me tenth novel 'bout John Grammaticticus innit bruv, 's called 'e 'nd an' 'e deff, 'art 1 an' 2.

I often found the Tolstoy self-inserts pretty endearing. They were definitely never my favorite characters in the books but I was actively hoping for them to have a good ending.

I made my dad watch the 2016 War and Peace miniseries and he asked me like two episodes in “Does this guy get a good ending” referring to Pierre saying he didn’t really care about anyone else so I guess the self inserts really speak to some people.

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality is a lot creepier when u read it not as a teenager and realize the writer has a slavery/bdsm fetish 🤨

^{I lol every time at the first chapters tho}

btw I wish Chris Langan would write an epic fanfic about CTMU

Nice post, bro! I posted it to twitter.

On Self inserts https://rdrama.net/h/lit/post/174358/on-self-inserts #WhiteMenCantJump #based #others

They're okay if they're not made super seriously