These job listings on @Tesla are incredibly ridiculous. @elonmusk, are you to tell me entry level engineers get compensated this low?
— Chief Trumpster (@ChiefTrumpster) December 26, 2024
$70K / year is ridiculously low for STEM, but somehow they claim the pay is just fine.
They want more profit, simple!
Get it? pic.twitter.com/0PGhnh1UCA
Uh it's uhhh about the talent uhhhhh
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rightoids discovering ceos are evil:
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!luigifrickers blatant CEOmisia
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me on the right
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I am a proud school shooting supporter.
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same, but spare the ceos
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I like Luigi tho i must be... communist
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No, you're just a cute twink for including that dramatic pause
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!theaterkids
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Lol I make more than the best the world has to offer
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I made more than that before I knew a fricking THING lmao. I look back and cringe at some of the code I wrote that support major systems
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I call it the trail of destruction
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The wake...
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Lmao they get mogged by IBEW electricians, specially if you consider those are calculated on 40hr weeks
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Yeah these jeets are working 12 hour days and weekends cuz they suck and can't make deadlines
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80k for an industrial engineer is fricking abysmal lmao
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yeah, is this fricking Europe?
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Might be above average in Europe
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Gets you on the high tax rates too
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Musk is the type of boss who says is all about the "experience" of working on a big project.
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And buys pizza to get you to work until midnight "for the team."
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Elon seems like the type to cancel pizza fridays to weed out the weak
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lmao true
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Lmao, my former boss actually did that once (buying the pizza for the team which had to stay up late). He felt like the best boss ever for that.
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For entry level? I made quite a bit less than that as a Chemical Engineer fresh out of college.
Granted it was a government paycheck that set me up for life having on my resume, but most my peers made 70k-80k fresh out college
Once you have experience these numbers are meaningless unless you're r-slurred because pay is negotiated before signing your offer letter, plus base doesn't include bonuses, stipend and other benefits
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Yeah most of these are entry level positions and jeetmarked at that
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For early career? That seems pretty realistic and on par with many of the engineers I know, actually.
Are you a software engineer? You might be living in a bubble.
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What do you mean you don't make 450k with 2 years experience?
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You guys get paid?
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950k TC with my hybrid job and 545k TC with my fully remote second job. I'm considering picking up a third remote job because I'm having trouble covering rent on my bay area house at my current income.
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This but unironically
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You can pull in 80k as a
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that's like living in a more ghetto canada
oh lol it's H1b salaries, they'll take what they can get and live 3 people to a condo
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THREE!!! Lmao maybe at first. I've seen three per bedroom
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More like 5 people to a room and the landchad will just increase rent so every person ends up paying 1k for 1/5th of a room
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Lmao
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God forbid I try to make personal profit for myself. All must be for the master billionaire. lol I hate corporate apologists more than corporations.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Listen I don't want to give you anymore shit awards can you just change it to some other weird child it's been like 2 ducking years
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Probably the line the company feeds them. And explains why they're so PR oriented - to get the stock price up to keep the thing going. Like, Tesla is ridiculously overvalued for their actual hard performance.
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They're overvalued because he s scammed Redditors on shitty plastic e cars for years
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A guy I went to school with was bragging about how he got a role at Tesla. later I found out that Mr hot shot electrical engineer was making 60k working in the purchasing department
Not even an engineering role
Not surprised they also treat their talent (not him) like that
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Not even lying and @KAT_B0T and @Tude can back me up on this -- we know a guy who worked at Tesla and a few years later got testicular cancer at 27. He was incredibly jokingly self-deprecating about it and had good spirits for the shitty luck (still alive too) but he always says working at Tesla gives you cancer. lol
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Good ol tnw amirite @KAT_B0T
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yep!
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Yeah I work at Tesla. I'm a Custodial Engineer.
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Greeter Engineer here
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I know someone who left his engineering job at a car firm over here for Tesla and was really excited about it. He was back in England in less than a year
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Aligns with what I've heard. They expect a lot of work out of you at Tesla but the pay doesn't back up the pressure. Your buddy work for an expensive brand?
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He was at Bentley before
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Many such cases!
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are those "real" engineering roles?
"packing engineer" could just be what they call the r-slur they have make cardboard boxes out of flat pack kits.
QA are also a bottom of the barrel role and that is at 84k
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!codecels does anyone actually respect QA?
wow you are really useful thanks for delaying my push to prod to push a bunch of automated tests that a real coder made for you
If you can do, if you can't teach, if you got rejected from teaching try QA
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I respect QA to the fricking degree they find things wrong with my/my team's code. So mostly no.
But the fricking best place I ever worked had no dedicated QA, but it rotated so each sprint one of the fricking engineering teams was fricking tapped as red team to try and break everyone else's shit.
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QA is bottom of he barrel button pushers but they serve a very specific role of finding edge cases in real environments. QA in automotive is also unique in that the engineers drive prototype vehicles
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Yes, but my last testing engineer spent a lot of time automating and brought us up to like 70% code coverage on a regular computing environment. He wrote most of the regression tests. I work in a field where QA stops us from being r*ped by feds.
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If there is any QA they better be making their own test cases that meet contract requirements.
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I have even less respect for professors. Except the old as dirt ones who teach because they retired from the industry.
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comp sci boomer professors are kinda cool, I also liked most of my math professors.
Very smart people but the type that would probably forget to eat
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I worked IT at a university. We had a lot of cool professors, but our CS/SWE professors were openly hostile to IT and knew jack shit about it. It really sucked taking their classes after they chewed you out over some stupid shit.
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Yeah, the good ones are worth their weight in gold but most are completely useless. Developers are too lazy/arrogant these days to test for complicated edge cases or across boundaries so they just don't. The good QAs will expose all their errors.
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QA has saved my butt a few times because they're too r-slurred to limit their tests to just the module being worked on and end up catching integration issues no one foresaw.
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They help catch some bugs which are neat but if you're competent yourself you'll be catching most of those yourself especially if your company's processes require unit testing before handing over to even QA.
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@McCoxmaul
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QA will be replaced by LLMs
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!soyteens xey're slandering kway
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devs should be QAing their system using automated testing? both at the unit level, and end-to-end tests.
if u don't understand this please keep yourself safe ur just making the world a worse place with ur computational pollution.
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Only in companies where they don't make engineers write the tests lol. My first job at a multibillion dollar ISP we didn't even write unit tests lmao
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Mine are good enough that half the time I don't even run the app after working a bug ticket, but they do need a lot of shit explained to them
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lol right
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This might be why the doors shatter if you close them too hard lol
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IDK what people are bitching about, these are 1)specifically H1B pay levels (which are always super-low because lol frick 'em, what are they gonna do, find another job? and 2)honestly not terrible for entry-level engineers outside of California.
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Becuase elon said he wants to mass import jeets cuz their is no Americans to do the jobs and everyone said no it's because you don't want to pay a real engineer and then someone found this.
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Based Musk, the STEMcide must happen asap
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t. psychology major
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@nuclearshill is a stemcel too, that's why @nuclearshill know it must happen
Trans lives matter
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Jeets being the ultimate cryptonite too techcels is just comedy gold too me. @Jared_Taylor mean @Jared_Taylor is a WN meme account, but browsing /g/ and seeing the absolute visceral fear and hatred towards indians is just hilarious.
Trans lives matter, Indian lives matter too.
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I thought you were exiled to chudrama. Did the rodent free you (and HV1776)?
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IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE! HALLELUIAH!
Trans lives matter, same with @Newvann
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Elon Musk is right though? Nobody is forcing American software developers and engineers too not work for a livable wage.
Jewish lives matter.
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A) these numbers are pretty typical for entry level engineers with a BS, outside of VHCOL areas, and no experience in the job market outside of internships. They're definitely not the best in the business, but they're competitive vs other companies.
B) the Biden administration laws currently in place require H1Bs to have the same salary as an American employed in the same position. The way you currently exploit H1Bs is to have them work ridiculous amounts of overtime and pass over them for promotions, since H1B transfers require an employer to offer the position to the H1B. The chud Xeeter and his r-slur sycophants don't understand this, though.
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The dude from Northwest Southeast University of State at Tier 3 City with a STEM degree, while decent, is not going to work at a fricking hedge fund
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Unless that STEM degree is a PhD in math. 300k at any job you want
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Also hedge fund would be like 400k first year if you include the signing bonus
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Those are the salaries for INTERNS you r-slur
!ifrickinglovescience
Find someone who pays interns more than $35/hr and I'll give you a blowjob
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Okay jeeta
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My lips are ready for you big boy, let's see those $36/hr interns
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https://www.levels.fyi/internships/Google/Software-Engineer-Intern/
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I've learned recently that a lot of people across a lot of different industries can see how much people who make 6+ figures actually make. This should be common enough knowledge since it's likely impossible to narrow down who leaked it.
This goes further than tech, though. Outside of boomers, most of the high earners in the US are 1st-3rd gen immigrants.
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His job is to stick Engineer on titles without engineer.
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Been in engineering for 15 years, I'd laugh at a resume with an "associate" process engineer position on it. Seriously wtf
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Isn't associate just industry term for entry level? What's wrong with it?
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Usually that's just process engineer. At least in my section of the industry "associate" process engineer would imply someone below entry level, like an intern or (more likely) a technician role that someone tried to glamorize.
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do engineers really
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This is very , that salary chart is obviously sorted ascending and the lowest paying positions are in LCOL areas (especially Buffalo) and some of those are internships.
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There were angry musk fan screenshots where the more senior guys got 230k, if that makes you feel less stupid
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It just really sucks man. I hate nigerians and I don't want to have that as part of my DNA. No fourth Reich is going to take me in if I show them this to attempt to verify my purity. It means I'm fricking stuck in this country in all of it iterations and that's really depressing.
Snapshots:
https://x.com/ChiefTrumpster/status/1872399362866962872:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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