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If you guys did the whole thing, I don't think you would have anything to apologize for. My employment with B&R complicates things, and I think I got caught up in the fun of the moment and put my bosses in an unfair position. I'm not going to over-apologize, but people I trust (not just salty partisans) have rightly pointed out that I inserted myself into the drama and the narrative more than I should have. I'm trying to balance a few things here.
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There's in a sense in which your B&R affiliation does complicate things—because it empirically did in the CW Thread—, but whether it is reasonable for it to do so isn't obvious, and the replies there are much more unhinged than I'd expect. It seems more like they disliked the hoax for <reasons> and then latched onto that as justification. The place seems to have gotten markedly spergier in the past couple months, somehow, and the characteristic rigidity of thought and obsession with 'Truth' is leading to asinine accusations of pooping up the epistemic commons—of course, your whole point is that the commons are already shit-filled, but let's burn the earnest witch that dares admit to it. Maybe we need another war to get the more Continental posters back; the autism ratio is getting too darn high.
Sure, Hlynka is perfectly consistent with his past positions. But iprayiam, who I rather like, returned after months of absence to accuse you of trying to take down LoTT? No offence, but you've nowhere near the temperament to pull that off. You once penned a short novella trying to morally justify a schismatic forum fork—just as much to assuage your own neuroses as to seek community forgiveness, it seemed. In the LoTT hoax Groomercord chats, y'all nearly break frame when challenged by the most basic questions a social engineer would get. And thereby a hyperscrupulous furry is perceived the (accidental?) enforcement arm of the Cathedral. Jfc.
I'd argue you did nothing wrong, even by prevailing Motte/rat diaspora morality. In practice, guess we learned something about the Mottizens. The hoax transcended itself: a community with a founding mythos of cutting through mainstream misperception is now aghast at seeing the mainstream laid bare. Yes, what you did was an abuse of the inherent trust people extend to others. Yes, that trust is strained thin in an atomized society—which is a difficult-to-resolve aspect of liberalism I think you underestimate, e.g. in the Trace v Weed gay marriage series, but I digress. Further, exposing that motivated credulousness probably does marginally degrade trust further yet, though only marginally. However, you produced a mere 0.1% of this year's viral Libs-Doing-Stupid-Shit clickbait. The most compelling case against you isn't consequentialist; rather, it's an argument from virtue and vice. Insofar as any bait is counter to virtue—which all Drama is, at least to classical virtue, and perhaps not at all by modernity's standards—I see no consistent way of holding you out as exceptionally bad. Sorry to see your friends drag you to the pillory.
Yeah, the most interesting revelation that came out of it was who and how many motteneurodivergents are actually culture warriors and lose their shit at someone who "attacked their side". That shit about LoTT standing up against the Cathedral and Trace being a traitorous arm of same was one of the cringiest things I've ever read. I try to give peeps like iprayiam the benefit of the doubt, like, maybe they were brainwashed throughout their lives but still ended in our truth-seeking place, that shows that their love for truth is stronger than my lazy raised atheist butt's, but that thread was quite a revelation, no, they are really fricked in the head in some way.
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Yeah, the most interesting revelation that came out of it was who and how many motteneurodivergents are actually culture warriors and lose their shit at someone who "attacked their side".
I think the most pronounced we always knew, Hlynka was always going to have this take. I am required to put up resistance to the "look at this thread, it shows mottizens have gone off the deep end" when in reality it was like 5 people. But it was embarrassing just how narrow the contrarianism was there.
It truly was a wakeup moment for me for how partisan the sub is at this point, I denied the rightoid infestation allegations until this incident happened
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Tbh I've not been reading cw threads for a while but our comfy telegram group (that became de facto dedicated to the Ukraine war discussion) has been remarkably sane. Except for some hoe bot that liked random posts and never said anything.
Appreciate your thoughts here. I think the core of truth (as @aqouta pointed out) is that I tried to play both jester and chronicler, and there's an inherent tension between the two that's intensified by my b&r role. Gotta find a better balance.
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I think this comment is a very smart (or maybe just wordy) way of looking at very stupid and pointless shit.
the characteristic rigidity of thought and obsession with 'Truth' is leading to asinine accusations of pooping up the epistemic commons—of course, your whole point is that the commons are already shit-filled
I think the point, actually, is that the ability to discern concerted misinformation is a skill everyone needs to practice, and lazy people assert that expecting effort is torture, so we are all fuk.
But most importantly, only apologize when you realize you've made a mistake without being told. Once you've been told you can never be sure it was actually a mistake.
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on my own? sure, I basically agree. but I like my bosses and have a job where I should be staying in the background more than becoming the story I had a lot of fun, but my position with B&R complicates things for me.
I'm not sure why you're even playing a support role on BARPod unless it's a stepping stone or just pays well. Or maybe not that exactly. Themotte criticism was excessive and clearly motivated a lot by tribalism but the kernel of truth was that you, and Jesse is like this too, seem like you're mixing two identities that don't work very well for a public figure. Being charitable honest and careful is one way to go. Being fun and trolley is another but they have anti-synergy and it's shocking to people when they're used to one and see the other. Jesse's more careful thought out stuff is discounted heavily because of his constant kerfuffles. If you're envisioning an SSC future you may want to fade a bit into he background on the barpod.
Oh and this all would have gone much better if you credited the op more clearly to rdrama. It's the reputation we want and you probably don't.
If you want to do a little trolling, you should make an alt and just not tell anyone. Better yet, make multiple alts and sprinkle fake personal details into each one.
The issue was not with the trolling (which was legendary) but with the weird apologetic vibe of the article (which is evident even in the title and in the fact the article came out as it did). You should have been mocking tf out of the r-slurs you duped. Barring that you should have said nothing and let LOTT escalate, blaming you or w/e and then you going "lol"
The most essential trait of every good journ*list is his ego. Without the feeling of smug superiority over others, the journ*list fades into nothingness.
This is the same guy that's sneeding in OP's link about Trace's comment, because this time he's the one that got tricked. Behind all the sophistry mottizens are really just dumbasses.
Yeah, the amount of hypocritical butthurt and double standards when it comes to treating rightoid wingcucks with "charity" while straight up seetheposting against leftoid wingcucks on /r/themotte is why I barely read the culture war roundup anymore. I cannot understand why so many people are going into conniptions over a fricking non-journaloid twitter user getting pranked. It clearly isn't about protecting the reputation of trains from undeserved hatred and it isn't about principles (from a former community member). It's just righteous huffing and puffing over someone on their side getting tricked.
This is what happens when you cultivate a culture where humor is literally banned.
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@TracingWoodgrains post was pretty straggy though. Individuals in general should not be taking credit or associating themselves with gay ops like that. When Al Qaeda bombs an embassy, the bombers name isn't the important part.
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To be fair there really isn't a better place to get the right wing takes and there are often good discussion. Where else are you going to go? Breitbart?
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Maybe it’s nostalgia but there used to be a lot less wingcucks when it was on /r/slatestarcodex. There was also more variety of topics than s and twitter journos
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yeah, the lefties balanced it out. but now /r/ssc is useless for anything but links because it's otherwise a slightly more willing to argue SRD(at the expense of ), it's nearly declined to /r/xkcd levels. And that was probably the sweet spot if for no other reason that the blog comments were so shit to use.
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Reading /r/slatestarcodex now is like visiting a lobotomized friend. Smh posters there are basic as frick now. Where did all these lame new posters come from?
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Probably NYT readers from the dox that think they're open minded but just brought their normie beliefs. But really when the people who post in the motte left to the motte who was left? People who claim to value to challenging your beliefs but are too fragile to handle even careful disagreement.
Pure Rationalism is r-slurred as humans aren't rational. Just be an ubermensch instead of a bugman
With Socrates, Greek taste suddenly changed in favour of dialectics: what really happened here? Above all, a noble taste was defeated; with dialectics, the rabble rises to the top. Before Socrates, dialectical manners were rejected in good society: they were seen as bad manners, they humiliated people. The young were warned against them. People were generally distrustful of reasons being displayed like this. Honourable things, like honourable people, do not go around with their reasons in their hand. It is indecent to show all five fingers. Nothing with real value needs to be proved first. Wherever authority is still part of the social fabric, wherever people give commands rather than reasons, the dialectician is a type of clown: he is laughed at and not taken seriously. - Socrates was the clown who made himself be taken seriously: what really happened here? - Freddy Nacho
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humans aren't rational.
This is the actually purpose of the community, the point isn't that you are rational, it is that you should aim to be more rational. Christians don't aim to be christ.
there has to be some sort of reddit Mod Phenotype, they all talk and act exactly the fricking same.
It's like that stern lecture from your dad as he looks down on you for your poor behavior except the Dad in this case is a worthless piece of human excretement and a total drain on society that absolutely no one on earth respects.
Trace self deleted his comments in shame (or maybe just to save his own Motte modship?)
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The thread is full of people I've known and had cordial relations with for years; I wasn't quite ready for that sort of long-term camaraderie to break down like that and the whole thing was becoming a bit too real for me, so I felt like it was best to take a good few steps away from the screen and touch grass. I was operating in a rdrama context and the overwhelming response there was to view it in a b&r context; that dissonance muddied things a bit too much, I think.
Lots of partisanship; some people I trust making good points. Still trying to properly navigate the different hats I wear.
Still trying to properly navigate the different hats I wear.
Don't worry too much about it, if there's just one more journoid out there with the fear of falling for bait in them then it was worth it. Let's do aoc next.
I still think sticking with my title suggestion would've mitigated the outrage directed at you, for the record. Most people don't bother reading the full article and will jump to conclusions based on the headline.
It's in the past now though and you got a decent jump in follower count from it all, so it's not a total loss.
tbc i have a lot of motte karma and they are just being hypocritical r-slurs here. if you had owned, like, a medium sized left-wing business, they'd be clapping. but bc it is partisan, nope.
I've read and liked many your posts over the years, I remember the one about your nickname. Coming from a not too different personal background (if that story is true) it is also about credibility/trust/reputation. It's not "different hats", this stunt reiterates the need for different personas/names. You linking your SSC nick to working for BARpod was interesting, but still reasonable. You openly posting here is potentially damaging to everyone connected to your account should someone powerful take interest. Good for drama at least. Lastly, the trolling makes everything you post suspect by default. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your choices and actions, but your reputation has changed. Namely "potential liar". Congrats/Condolences?
Yeah, that mortgaging of trust, to the extent it has happened, is one of the parts I feel most seriously/keenly. I don't know that I agree with splitting my persona more broadly, though. I am who I am; I'm not ashamed to be willing to talk with people wherever.
I don't know that I agree with splitting my persona more broadly, though. I am who I am; I'm not ashamed to be willing to talk with people wherever.
I don't think one can be viewed as a jokester and a serious writer in one person, unless one has established oneself firmly as serious (globally) writer beforehand. I also think most people dislike instigators and will not appreciate a Donna Ross "accept me" in that regard. My view is you can have multiple personas and also produce art and controversies as long as you tell people you do this and are somewhat predictable. Like Alter Egos. I'm not sure what you mean with "splitting your persona", but what I'm saying is when you want to have the same nick at Motte/Substack/Rdrama you probably need to communicate to people "this is me in this mode" somehow, because the modes of existence are a bit different between them
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If you guys did the whole thing, I don't think you would have anything to apologize for. My employment with B&R complicates things, and I think I got caught up in the fun of the moment and put my bosses in an unfair position. I'm not going to over-apologize, but people I trust (not just salty partisans) have rightly pointed out that I inserted myself into the drama and the narrative more than I should have. I'm trying to balance a few things here.
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[trigger warning: we're Motte meta-posting. I have to write at least 2000 characters. them's the rules.
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There's in a sense in which your B&R affiliation does complicate things—because it empirically did in the CW Thread—, but whether it is reasonable for it to do so isn't obvious, and the replies there are much more unhinged than I'd expect. It seems more like they disliked the hoax for <reasons> and then latched onto that as justification. The place seems to have gotten markedly spergier in the past couple months, somehow, and the characteristic rigidity of thought and obsession with 'Truth' is leading to asinine accusations of pooping up the epistemic commons—of course, your whole point is that the commons are already shit-filled, but let's burn the earnest witch that dares admit to it. Maybe we need another war to get the more Continental posters back; the autism ratio is getting too darn high.
Sure, Hlynka is perfectly consistent with his past positions. But iprayiam, who I rather like, returned after months of absence to accuse you of trying to take down LoTT? No offence, but you've nowhere near the temperament to pull that off. You once penned a short novella trying to morally justify a schismatic forum fork—just as much to assuage your own neuroses as to seek community forgiveness, it seemed. In the LoTT hoax Groomercord chats, y'all nearly break frame when challenged by the most basic questions a social engineer would get. And thereby a hyperscrupulous furry is perceived the (accidental?) enforcement arm of the Cathedral. Jfc.
I'd argue you did nothing wrong, even by prevailing Motte/rat diaspora morality. In practice, guess we learned something about the Mottizens. The hoax transcended itself: a community with a founding mythos of cutting through mainstream misperception is now aghast at seeing the mainstream laid bare. Yes, what you did was an abuse of the inherent trust people extend to others. Yes, that trust is strained thin in an atomized society—which is a difficult-to-resolve aspect of liberalism I think you underestimate, e.g. in the Trace v Weed gay marriage series, but I digress. Further, exposing that motivated credulousness probably does marginally degrade trust further yet, though only marginally. However, you produced a mere 0.1% of this year's viral Libs-Doing-Stupid-Shit clickbait. The most compelling case against you isn't consequentialist; rather, it's an argument from virtue and vice. Insofar as any bait is counter to virtue—which all Drama is, at least to classical virtue, and perhaps not at all by modernity's standards—I see no consistent way of holding you out as exceptionally bad. Sorry to see your friends drag you to the pillory.
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OMG why so you mottefricks use so many acronyms.
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I HATE MOTTECELS I HATE MOTTECELS
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Or guerilla terrorists. No fence-sitters
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we should add an expensive Motte award where you need to write 2000 characters for a day or something
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Yeah, the most interesting revelation that came out of it was who and how many motteneurodivergents are actually culture warriors and lose their shit at someone who "attacked their side". That shit about LoTT standing up against the Cathedral and Trace being a traitorous arm of same was one of the cringiest things I've ever read. I try to give peeps like iprayiam the benefit of the doubt, like, maybe they were brainwashed throughout their lives but still ended in our truth-seeking place, that shows that their love for truth is stronger than my lazy raised atheist butt's, but that thread was quite a revelation, no, they are really fricked in the head in some way.
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I think the most pronounced we always knew, Hlynka was always going to have this take. I am required to put up resistance to the "look at this thread, it shows mottizens have gone off the deep end" when in reality it was like 5 people. But it was embarrassing just how narrow the contrarianism was there.
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It truly was a wakeup moment for me for how partisan the sub is at this point, I denied the rightoid infestation allegations until this incident happened
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The reaction to the invasion of Ukraine didn't tip you off? Some people have completely lost it.
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Tbh I've not been reading cw threads for a while but our comfy telegram group (that became de facto dedicated to the Ukraine war discussion) has been remarkably sane. Except for some hoe bot that liked random posts and never said anything.
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Appreciate your thoughts here. I think the core of truth (as
@aqouta pointed out) is that I tried to play both jester and chronicler, and there's an inherent tension between the two that's intensified by my b&r role. Gotta find a better balance.
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Stop appreciating peoples thoughts
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appreciate your thoughts
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I think this comment is a very smart (or maybe just wordy) way of looking at very stupid and pointless shit.
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I think the point, actually, is that the ability to discern concerted misinformation is a skill everyone needs to practice, and lazy people assert that expecting effort is torture, so we are all fuk.
But most importantly, only apologize when you realize you've made a mistake without being told. Once you've been told you can never be sure it was actually a mistake.
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We love you here, and more specifically i love you (unless you are a mayo or a foid or gasp both)
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fair enough
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I like you
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I apologize for everything because I'm spineless, but on rDrama.. I'm a chad.
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Just lie and say I did it. I run my own company they can't fire me b-word! My clients aren't the type to care about this either
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Why would you even write the article in the first place then? Journos try having one drop of foresight challenge [very hard]
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LLOVE U HUNNY ""IT WILL ALL BE OKAY""" THX; PS. Trans Lives Matter
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who chudded David show yourself
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Never admit fault, double down, insult your detractors.
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Wow, disappointing.
edit: maybe not, even this is pretty funny drama
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on my own? sure, I basically agree. but I like my bosses and have a job where I should be staying in the background more than becoming the story
I had a lot of fun, but my position with B&R complicates things for me.
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I'm not sure why you're even playing a support role on BARPod unless it's a stepping stone or just pays well. Or maybe not that exactly. Themotte criticism was excessive and clearly motivated a lot by tribalism but the kernel of truth was that you, and Jesse is like this too, seem like you're mixing two identities that don't work very well for a public figure. Being charitable honest and careful is one way to go. Being fun and trolley is another but they have anti-synergy and it's shocking to people when they're used to one and see the other. Jesse's more careful thought out stuff is discounted heavily because of his constant kerfuffles. If you're envisioning an SSC future you may want to fade a bit into he background on the barpod.
Oh and this all would have gone much better if you credited the op more clearly to rdrama. It's the reputation we want and you probably don't.
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I'm with BARPod because I admire their work and am eager to help find and prepare compelling stories.
I am, yes. That's about the core of it, and that's what I'm hoping to properly figure out and address. All well said; appreciate the thoughts.
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If you want to do a little trolling, you should make an alt and just not tell anyone. Better yet, make multiple alts and sprinkle fake personal details into each one.
Keep Yourself Safe
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Or impersonate someone you don't like
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you can just do both though lol. making an alt is also fine. anything that means less trolling in any way is bad.
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Yeah dude. Make an alt. Be an online nobody. Don't let this site follow you back into reality.
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wrong. just do both.
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The issue was not with the trolling (which was legendary) but with the weird apologetic vibe of the article (which is evident even in the title and in the fact the article came out as it did). You should have been mocking tf out of the r-slurs you duped. Barring that you should have said nothing and let LOTT escalate, blaming you or w/e and then you going "lol"
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Your bosses seemed pretty alright with it. How are they reacting to the backlash?
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My bosses are awesome and they're being extremely gracious to me. I'm just neurotic
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Sick that they've got your back. Let it blow over and learn some lessons and make some more good content.
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Dramacel accusing someone of being a narcissist b-word
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Narcissism is only a bad thing when its paired with laziness
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lol darn they are murdering him.
It seems he really would have benefited from separating himself from the story.
He could have just called it an rdrama op, and let it any backlash be directed at us (good drama).
But journo gonna journo.
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lesson learned
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It happens.
Ender had to xenocide an entire species before he learned, right?
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yikes, orson scott card is almost as problematic as jk "trans genocide" rowling
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The most essential trait of every good journ*list is his ego. Without the feeling of smug superiority over others, the journ*list fades into nothingness.
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Is he actually a furry?
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Mottetards are as self righteous as sardines.
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SRDines have told me that saying pit bulls are genetically predisposed to violence is racist without a hint of irony. Nothing comes close to SRDines.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/pitqan/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_september_06/hcder7m/?context=999
Here's a bunch of the same people cheering him on for an article about their political adversaries being similarly fooled
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This is the same guy that's sneeding in OP's link about Trace's comment, because this time he's the one that got tricked. Behind all the sophistry mottizens are really just dumbasses.
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they're not gonna read this, if you have something to say to them post it there
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You’d be surprised, I’ve noticed increasingly heavy cross-pollination over the past few months
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Even if they did read it, they're incapable of comprehending any information communicated in fewer than 10 paragraphs
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Yeah, the amount of hypocritical butthurt and double standards when it comes to treating rightoid wingcucks with "charity" while straight up seetheposting against leftoid wingcucks on /r/themotte is why I barely read the culture war roundup anymore. I cannot understand why so many people are going into conniptions over a fricking non-journaloid twitter user getting pranked. It clearly isn't about protecting the reputation of trains from undeserved hatred and it isn't about principles (from a former community member). It's just righteous huffing and puffing over someone on their side getting tricked.
This is what happens when you cultivate a culture where humor is literally banned.
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What about the 25 million jews, though?
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To be fair there really isn't a better place to get the right wing takes and there are often good discussion. Where else are you going to go? Breitbart?
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Maybe it’s nostalgia but there used to be a lot less wingcucks when it was on /r/slatestarcodex. There was also more variety of topics than
s and twitter journos
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yeah, the lefties balanced it out. but now /r/ssc is useless for anything but links because it's otherwise a slightly more willing to argue SRD(at the expense of
), it's nearly declined to /r/xkcd levels. And that was probably the sweet spot if for no other reason that the blog comments were so shit to use.
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Reading /r/slatestarcodex now is like visiting a lobotomized friend. Smh posters there are basic as frick now. Where did all these lame new posters come from?
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Probably NYT readers from the dox that think they're open minded but just brought their normie beliefs. But really when the people who post in the motte left to the motte who was left? People who claim to value to challenging your beliefs but are too fragile to handle even careful disagreement.
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Have you figured out rationalism is r-slurred or
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I haven't
Pls explain
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Pure Rationalism is r-slurred as humans aren't rational. Just be an ubermensch instead of a bugman
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This is the actually purpose of the community, the point isn't that you are rational, it is that you should aim to be more rational. Christians don't aim to be christ.
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I like how you're saying this as if rdrama isn't basically the same.
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Mottecels are just fragile rightoids hiding behind
RDrama unironically has more intelligent and balanced political discussions nowadays in spite of our general r-sluration

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To be fair I think a lot of rdrama aligned mottezans lost our accounts in the orange cat raid of /r/place so it was imbalanced.
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there has to be some sort of reddit Mod Phenotype, they all talk and act exactly the fricking same.
It's like that stern lecture from your dad as he looks down on you for your poor behavior except the Dad in this case is a worthless piece of human excretement and a total drain on society that absolutely no one on earth respects.
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They are all Bardfinn alts.
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The thread is full of people I've known and had cordial relations with for years; I wasn't quite ready for that sort of long-term camaraderie to break down like that and the whole thing was becoming a bit too real for me, so I felt like it was best to take a good few steps away from the screen and touch grass. I was operating in a rdrama context and the overwhelming response there was to view it in a b&r context; that dissonance muddied things a bit too much, I think.
Lots of partisanship; some people I trust making good points. Still trying to properly navigate the different hats I wear.
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Don't worry too much about it, if there's just one more journoid out there with the fear of falling for bait in them then it was worth it. Let's do aoc next.
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I still think sticking with my title suggestion would've mitigated the outrage directed at you, for the record. Most people don't bother reading the full article and will jump to conclusions based on the headline.
It's in the past now though and you got a decent jump in follower count from it all, so it's not a total loss.
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yeah, you've got a point. lesson learned
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Stop being a f@g, people should learn to do research and not blindly post random nonsense.
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they should! but I should stick to telling the stories, not becoming them
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wrong. there isnt even a difference.
tbc i have a lot of motte karma and they are just being hypocritical r-slurs here. if you had owned, like, a medium sized left-wing business, they'd be clapping. but bc it is partisan, nope.
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Homie, Ily but you just used three semicolons in this one comment
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that's; not; even; close; to; my; final; form
kurt vonnegut, eat your heart out
where is the marseysemicolon emote
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I've read and liked many your posts over the years, I remember the one about your nickname. Coming from a not too different personal background (if that story is true) it is also about credibility/trust/reputation. It's not "different hats", this stunt reiterates the need for different personas/names. You linking your SSC nick to working for BARpod was interesting, but still reasonable. You openly posting here is potentially damaging to everyone connected to your account should someone powerful take interest. Good for drama at least. Lastly, the trolling makes everything you post suspect by default. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your choices and actions, but your reputation has changed. Namely "potential liar". Congrats/Condolences?
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Yeah, that mortgaging of trust, to the extent it has happened, is one of the parts I feel most seriously/keenly. I don't know that I agree with splitting my persona more broadly, though. I am who I am; I'm not ashamed to be willing to talk with people wherever.
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I don't think one can be viewed as a jokester and a serious writer in one person, unless one has established oneself firmly as serious (globally) writer beforehand. I also think most people dislike instigators and will not appreciate a Donna Ross "accept me" in that regard. My view is you can have multiple personas and also produce art and controversies as long as you tell people you do this and are somewhat predictable. Like Alter Egos. I'm not sure what you mean with "splitting your persona", but what I'm saying is when you want to have the same nick at Motte/Substack/Rdrama you probably need to communicate to people "this is me in this mode" somehow, because the modes of existence are a bit different between them
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you got owned. kitty. cant take it.
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