Right, there's nothing productive to be had in terms of discussion here, and I don't think you guys even care at this point either to try.

Call it whatever stupid buzzword you want - Woke, DEI, PC, SJW, or whatever dumb term people come up with next week. I don't care. The term means, always has meant, and always WILL mean "Not being an butthole to someone because they're different to you."

Don't pretend that the old stories were fine just having black or gay people - Because buttholes complained about that then, just like you are complaining about it now. The reality is, people who are not the same skin colour, sexual orientation, gender, lifestyle, size, physical ability, etc etc, than you, Exist. They always have, and always will.

Culture including people with different characteristics to you IS NOT A SLIGHT. They are not doing it to offend you, or to "gaslamp you" or whatever nonsense the Anti Woke Brigade has come up with this week. These characters are being created so that the real human beings who have those differences, have someone to look at and go "Hey this guy's like me!" That's it. That's the whole thing. It's just about making everybody feel welcome.

If you want to complain about this, I encourage you to send us a modmail. But this thread is locked, and you know darn well why.

!marseyartists !saiyans Can you guess who it is?

...the true America, the Spanish America. Ruins, mendicants, racial degradation, the haphazard mixture of all kins of blood, vagabonds playing guitar... naked children, little savages running everywhere amongst dogs... All of it in an admirable state of Nature.

-- Gaston de Raousset-Boulbon

Expansionism is stupid

wrong

-- @Impassionata and @Monke

This will be my second effortpost about a person, or rather a number of people. In honor of Trump's threats/hopes for a Panamanian misadventure and the pearl clutching it has inspired

Filibustering is a pretty esoteric topic so there aren't many relevant rDrama quotes to share. Instead I've decided to collect some overly dramatic dramatard musings on Trump's recent headliners in the hopes of starting drama in the comment section

This effortpost is dedicated to 19th century American filibustering in Latin America. It was a time before drones and carrier groups. A time before the DOD. A time where a young America, completely and entirely without the luxuries of a modern superpower, was still willing to just grab the boys and some rifles and have an adventure A time where we believed in our young republic enough to try and save the Spaniards from themselves and create,

THE GOLDVN CIRCLE

Filibustering

Finger-wagging church ladies, the only thing eurocucks can do in international disputes is write strongly-worded letters that everyone who matters simply ignores. For the past 30 years you've been pretending that Europe doesn't needs power nor prosperity (spending your efforts instead on the feeding of leeches). So now you have neither.

-- @65364254

Also known as freebooting, filibustering of the 19th century was a phenomenon in which mercenary groups operating under their own initiative invaded foreign countries in Latin America to bring them into the light of civilization under American influence. These expeditions were not condoned or sponsored by the US government, but could theoretically have led to official recognition in the event of success, such as when William Walker's brief control of Nicaragua was recognized by President Franklin Pierce.

The word was derived from the Spanish filibustero, itself deriving originally from the Dutch vrijbuiter (pirate, @kaamrev @duck discuss) originally used by the Spanish to describe the English pirates raiding their towns and shipping. Sir Francis Drake stands as one example as he, like Trump, also had an interest in Panama He went as far as to raid it and other settlements along the Spanish Main.

As the eternal culture war between England and Spain has been inherited by their successor states, "filibustering" was revived in the early 19th century as a variety of mercenaries took up arms against Spanish colonial forces in Latin America and for a variety of reasons. Perhaps the beginning of it all occurred in 1806 when Francisco de Miranda, a Venezuelan who served in and was inspired by the American and French Revolutions, attempted to win early Venezuelan independence with an army including American volunteers recruited from New York. (And for that matter the later and more successful campaigns of Simon Bolivar and Jose de San Martin also made use of Protestant, English speaking volunteers) Further volunteer campaigns at the expense of Catholic Mediterraneanoids would go on to define the century.

In this post I shall list off some of the most dramatic of these individuals. I hope you guys like "Did you know"s Exampe: Did you know the modern term for congressional filibustering was named after the 19th century practice due to its independent, "free wheeling" nature?

William Walker

A man a plan anal Panama

-- @Miffin

Did You Know That: An American was (unofficially) the President of Nicaragua, Sonora, and Baja?

William Walker was a Nashvilloid who graduated summa c*m laude from the University of Nashville at the age of 14. At 19 he received a medical degree from the University of Pennsylvania, then continued his studies at Edinburgh, Scotland and Heidelberg, Baden-Württemberg. He practiced both medicine and law for a few years before becoming editor of the San Francisco Herald, where he fought three duels including a near fatal one against notorious Old West gunman William Hicks Graham. Inspired by how Texas had broken away from Mexico to join the Union, he decided one day he could potentially do the same with the Mexican state of Sonora

In other words going to college used to make you cool

In 1853, Walker and forty five men captured La Paz and declared it the new capital of "The Republic of Lower California". Mexican resistance prevented him from going any further, and he retreated back to California to be tried in violation of the Neutrality Act of 1794. In the era of Manifest Destiny, however, Walker's actions were popular and the jury took just eight minutes to acquit him

In 1854, a civil war erupted in Nicaragua, and Walker arrived in 1855 with a larger mercenary army in alleged support of Francisco Castellón's Democratic Party. Commanding Democratic locals as well as volunteers including future Confederate officers and European adventurers with veterancy in conflicts like the First Carlist War, Hungarian Revolution, and the Russo-Circassian War (I think it was just easier to meet people back then ) Walker's forces captured Granada and took effective control over the country. Walker's new administration was recognized at the time by 14th US President Franklin Pierce.

All of Central America united against one honky tonker?

Walker's initial success alarmed the nations of Central America, and a coalition of Costa Rica, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala ultimately came together to oppose him. They were further financed and supported by industrialist Cornelius Vanderbilt, as Walker had seized some of his ships and railroads in the region. (!americas have Napoleonic Wars at home ) Major moments include almost ten percent of Costa Rica's population dying from cholera and Guatemalan Colonel José Víctor Zavala becoming a national hero after stealing a flag from Walker's house

Pressure from hardworking Central Americans eventually forced Walker to flee the country with the US Navy. He returned to America and became a divisive figure; a pirate in the north, but a hero in the south who inspired the idea of increasing slave state political influence by potentially spreading !dixie control into the Spanish tropics.

In 1860 Walker tried to launch another expedition and made his way to Roatán, supposedly because British colonists there wanted help against the Honduran government. However, he was turned over to the British Navy. The British, like the of today, desired to build a canal through Central America and viewed Walker as a threat to their interests. They handed him over to Honduras where he was tried for piracy and fiibustering. In his defense he argued that piracy can't take place on land and that "filibustering" was a made up Spanish word

He was executed by firing squad

John A. Quitman

This is going to be America's Suez Crisis.

-- @Dlanor_A_Kong

Like many other great southerners, John Quitman was a lawyer with a degree from Hartwick back when it was a Lutheran seminary. He owned several plantations and a dairy farm He generally thought relations between masters and slaves were "harmonious" because he was too busy serving in the Mississippi state government and fighting in Mexico to personally oversee any of his properites

Quitman was an officer during the Mexican-American War and his troops spearheaded the attack at the Battle of Chapultepec, an engagement memorialized to this day in the opening line of the Marine Corps Hymn (what @HailVictory1776 pretends to be ) Quitman received the surrender of the citadel in Mexico City and became military governor there for the duration of the occupation. He stands as the only American to rule from the National Palace

America could've acquired Cuba decades before the Spanish-American War?

While serving as Governor of Mississippi, Quitman was approached by yet another Venezuelan adventurer, Narciso López, to support an armed liberation of Cuba from Spanish rule. Quitman wished to complete his term in office but raised supplies and funds for the expedition.

Having failed to get direct American support (some of Lopez's other prospects for command included Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee) Lopez led the assault on Cuba himself. He stands as the creator of the modern Cuban flag and was the first to ever raise it He was ultimately defeated and executed. Ironically he went down as both a Cuban national and dixie southerner hero as he never clarified whether he wanted full Cuban independence or an American annexation.

Quitman was prosecuted for violating the Neutrality Act and had to resign as governor, but escaped punishment thanks to multiple hung juries So close to the American civil war, filibustering had evolved into yet another polarizing conflict between the north and south. Walker's instatement of slavery in Nicaragua led to an epiphany among southerners, realizing that conquest in the south would allow for the spread of slavery; new lands to own, new crops to grow, new votes for slave states in the federal government, etc. Control of Cuba was especially desirable since the island already had developed plantation infrastructure. Lastly, the annexation of Texas had already "proven" how Anglo settlers could win land from the Spaniard barbarians and add it to the Union as slave holding territory

Apparently quite inspired by Lopez's actions, Quitman attempted to organize his own filibustering invasion of Cuba. He had thousands of volunteers ready to go when in 1854 the Pierce administration, previously willing to look the other way, urged him to call it off. As the country was now within a decade of the Civil War, perhaps it was believed such a major undertaking to add so much slave holding territory would have been too upsetting to the northern Democrat's position and too much of a provocation towards the free states.

Other Filibusterers

There were filibusterers among the Founding Fathers?

I hope he gets a visit from the fifth next time he is in the UK. He doesn't have a license for that speech. Treason Act 1351, The Terrorism Act 2000 & The Public Order Act 1986 have all been violated. The punishment in the Treason Act was never officially repealed so he is going to be looking forward to hanging, drawing, and quartering.

-- @fedposter

Backing up a bit, some 18th century attempts at expansionism can be considered filibustering. The difference is whether the activities were successful or not i.e. the Louisiana Purchase wasn't considered filibustering because it was entirely official

William Blount was a landowner, politician, and Revolutionary War founding father who negotiated the 1791 Treaty of Holston against sphereserf's people An aggressive land speculator, Blount fell into heavy debt and secretly conspired to help the British take control of Louisiana and Florida, both controlled at the time by Spain, in exchange for good land deals The plan called for American territorial militias, with the aid of the British Royal Navy, to launch attacks across Spanish territory. The plot was found out and Blount became the first ever federal official to face impeachment.

Another example of the period that also involved Florida, Congressman and Governor of Georgia George Mathews' political career was ruined by the Yazoo Land Fraud and he relocated to the Mississippi Territory. Eager to regain prominence, Mathews suggested to President James Madison that Spanish western Florida could be annexed, and he was sent as a secret agent with "remarkably vague and general" instructions to incite rebellion among the Spanish populace.

Mathews was unable to take the territory peacefully and so raised an army of Georgians and locals to seize Fernandina Beach and Amelia Island. Madison grew skittish and suddenly refused to support Mathews' acquisitions, and he died from fever while traveling to DC to complain. Historians remain unsure whether Mathews was acting within Madison's mandate or not.

There were NCR Rangers in real life?

A veteran of the Mexican war, Joseph C. Morehead was most known for leading a Californian militia in the Gila Expedition to attack the Quecha people The State of California was nearly bankrupted by the $120,000 cost of the Expedition, which killed no Indians

He is said to have filibustered in Mexico in the 1850's, and a second time in the 60's while serving in the Confederate army. He did not succeed and died in 1863.

Mexicans once drank gringo head wine?

Henry A. Crabb was a US soldier, a member of the California state senate, a leader of the Whig Party, and an unsuccessful candidate for the Know Nothing Party in 1857. After losing in California politics, he organized an expedition to support to aid the Liberal rebels in Mexico's ongoing Reform War. Like Walker before him he targeted the state of Sonora but was defeated and captured. He and the other survivors were massacred, and a Mississippi newspaper would claim the Mexicans preserved his head in spirits of wine before sending it to Mexico City.

Filibusterers were part of Texan independence?

...and lesbian pottery classes are the tip of the Western spear that will destroy our enemies and topple their regimes from within. So which is it, you stupid fricks? Is feminism irrelevant, or is it undermining the fabric of society?

-- @JimieWhales

The independence and annexation of Texas into the Union can, as a whole, be seen as a successful act of filibustering. It would heavily inspire further attempts at increasing southern slave holding territory.

More specifically, West Point graduate Augustus Magee participated in filibustering way back in 1812 by joining Bernardo Gutiérrez de Lara's Mexican independence movement with an army of American frontiersman and French creoles The Gutiérrez–Magee Expedition served as an early example of American interests in the region, though ironically it was fighting on behalf of and to help create Mexico.

War of 1812 veteran and US army surgeon James Long was one of many southern settlers who disagreed with the United States/New Spain border agreed upon by the Adams–Onís Treaty, and in 1819 the Long Expedition captured Nacogdoches to proclaim an early "Republic of Texas". He was ultimately defeated, sent to Mexico City to present his case to Mexico's president, and was shot and killed by a guard

From a Mexican perspective, the actual Texan Revolution of 1835 was part of a larger crisis in which several Mexican territories challenged the central government for one reason or another . A particularly ironic one involved José de Urrea, a Mexican officer and the perpetuator of the Goliad Massacre against the Texians, himself turning on Mexico's central government from a base of power in Sonora (Apparently that state is cursed lmao )

After winning independence, the newborn Texan government supported the Republic of Yucatán's conflict with Mexico through naval forces and fought a number of battles in the Gulf (of America ) to support the Mayanoid's own independence. The Republic of Texas also sent a few boats to support the Tabasco Rebellion in 1839. Texas did not, however, support the Republic of the Rio Grande due to border disputes.

Decades later, some filibuster-maxxers would support the idea of Cuban annexation by saying it could become as important to the south as Texas had become.

Some Americans genuinely fought for local independence?

Carter was the worst sort of naive Kumbaya singing liberal, the sort who categorically reject everything Hobbes wrote about in favor of some fantasy world where everyone is peaceful and selfless instead of acting in their own rational self-interest.

-- @Adolin113355

Not all filibusterers were fighting to literally spread the United States. Some genuinely believed in the ideological importance of independent republics, while others simply had no local American wars to earn their fame in. Americans participated in a number of Latin American local conflicts over the time period.

Son-in-law of John Adams and brother-in-law of John Quincy Adams, William Stephens Smith was convinced to support Francisco de Miranda's attempt at Venezuelan independence with a force of 200 men, including his own son William Steuben. Though he created Venezuela's modern flag and was an inspiration for Simon Bolivar, Miranda's army was defeated and Smith was tried for violating the Neutrality Act. He argued that President Thomas Jefferson had ordered him to do it, leading to a US Supreme Court decision that a president cannot order someone to violate the law.

In the post Civil War era, William A.C. Ryan was a Canadian born Union veteran who was dishonorably discharged from the army and barred from all veteran benefits. He went on to participate in the Ten Years' War, Cuba's first serious struggle for independence. He fought under the mambises and served on American ships that contributed to the cause.

The Spanish navy eventually went after these ships, and Ryans was captured by a torpedo boat while on the ill-fated Virginius. The Spanish executed him and a few dozen others as pirates before the British intervened. The Virginius Affair was a major provocation between the US and Spain and led to a modernization and expansion of the US Navy. Meanwhile, the participation of American filibusterers throughout demonstrates a sort of continuity between antebellum filibustering traditions and the expansionism of the later 19th century.

I sympathize with the Cubans in their gallant efforts on behalf of liberty and I, being an American, feel it necessary to do what I can to separate entirely this continent from Europe.

-- William A. Chanler

Going into the 20th century, William A. Chanler was a soldier and explorer who served as a US Representative from New York. Believing it was an American's obligation to support independence from colonial powers across the world His Americas activities included participation in the Spanish-American War and a 1902 insurrection in Venezuela. Approached by a group of Dutch investors to stage a rebellion against President Cipriano Castro, Chanler bookended the era by raising an army of "desperadoes, soldiers of fortune, cattle rustlers, bank robbers, gamblers, Indian scouts and fugitives", with some hailing from the pro-Confederate Quantrill's Raiders and others rustled up by his acquaintance Butch Cassidy Chanler's army landed in Venezuela and marched inland, calling off the attack only after Castro acceded to demands and ended the crisis. The investors rewarded Chanler by letting him borrow money , and he used it to build infrastructure in Tampico, Mexico and fund rebellious activity in Libya and Somalia. (At one point he even entertained Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat-sen and members of the Young Turks aboard his yacht)

It wasn't just America that hated Spaniards?

I shake the hands of the white libertarians, heirs of Lincoln and of the black and white peasant boys of the USA, before whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached, after walking the mountains of Italian Tuscany and after being saved from Covid. They are the USA and before them I kneel, before no one else. Overthrow me, President, and the Americas and humanity will respond. Colombia now stops looking north, looks at the world, our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Córdoba, the civilization at that time, of the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood has the black resisters turned into slaves by you. In Colombia is the first free territory of America, before Washington, of all America, there I take refuge in its African songs. My land is of goldsmithing existing in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs, and of the first artists of the world in Chiribiquete. You will never dominate us. The warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom and who is called Bolívar opposes us.

-- Colombian President Gustavo Petro

The aforementioned Narciso Lopez was just as prominent a filibusterer as Walker and Quitman, though not really an American one. A Venezuelan who went from Spanish army to Cuban nationalist, Lopez actually fought as a conscript for the Spanish government against the revolutionary forces of Bolivar and retreated to Cuba following Spain's total defeat in South America. Lopez stayed in the army and became an officer, even fighting in the Carlist War within Spain proper. He became an assistant to the Capitan General of Cuba but was financially ruined after that position changed hands, causing him to side with Cuban partisans (out of spite? )

Lopez travelled to the United States and became an unlikely dixie hero by appealing to filibusterers at the height of the practice's popularity. Lopez joined the Freemasons, won funding from a variety of plantation owners and army officers, and used the money to amass an army of Cuban exiles for an invasion. He was defeated and executed by the Spanish.

Funnily enough, Lopez went down as both a Cuban national hero and a champion of American southern expansion. Having lost, he never had to clarify whether he intended for a new southern state or an independent republic.

Neighbor what the frick does Brapzil has to do with Panama , not even the average Latinx knows anything about Panama other than their canal and the Chacaron Macaron song, A.K.A. the official r-slur anthem.

-- @BWC

Gaston de Raousset-Boulbon was a French entrepreneur/pirate who served in France's gradual conquest of Algeria. Frustrated by the Revolution of 1848, he made his way to America and tried to make his fortune as a gold prospector. Already worried about the fading importance of the old nobility in France, he was especially annoyed that the people of San Francisco didn't respect his title of Count. (They were too busy with Emperor Norton)

Like so many others, Raousset-Boulbon decided to invade -- get this, Sonora -- and create a French aligned independent republic. He was defeated by Mexican forces under José María Yáñez, a veteran of the Pastry War against France who would also thwart William Walker's attack, and executed.

He was only a few years early, as the actual French government would come for Mexico in 1861. Raousset-Boulbon's remains were eventually found by French soldiers and returned to Europe.

It's just like the good ol' 19th century again. And like back then you can't afford all this high fallutin' ideals that you could when you were the hegemon. Free markets? Easy migration? Losing your industrial base? LEL It's back to partial autarky and those Yurop negroes better get with the program and ramp up their shit too.

-- @RubberBandMan

Gregor MacGregor was a but Scottish who served as an officer in the Peninsular War against Napoleon. He fought as a filibusterer in Venezuela's war of independence and spent the next several years operating against Spain on behalf of them and Gran Columbia. He even briefly captured Amelia Island to create the short lived "Republic of the Floridas"

After suffering several defeats, MacGregor returned to Britain and became one of the most infamous conmen in history. He claimed to have created a colony in Honduras, "Poyais", that he ruled as Cacique. Claiming it was a well developed British colony, he sold fictitious government bonds and land certificates. Hundreds of people immigrated there to find an untouched strip of jungle, and only about fifty returned alive to Britain

Exposed as a fraud, MacGregor travelled to France and tried the same scheme there. Only some of his associates were convicted and he escaped to London to try smaller versions of yet the same scheme. He stayed until his wife died, then returned to Venezuela to be hailed as a hero

America could have saved the entire VVEST?

That's cool. Prediction: there will be a Chinese military base in the western hemisphere by 2050. !remindmebot 2050

-- @JimieWhales

Though filibustering took many forms over the years, it is perhaps most closely associated with the antebellum south. Walker's actions inspired many southerners to plot the annexation of new lands as slave holding states. In an era where northern and southern interests heavily conflicted and the admission of every new state was a political crisis in miniature, slavery supporters hoped the conquest of the old Spanish Main would give the south permanent domination in federal representation.

To that end, the Knights of the GVLDEN CIRCLE formed in 1854 as a secret society to create slave holding, American dominated republics-annexed-as-states (like how Texas had been) around a nova mare nostrum in the Caribbean. In other words, the Gulf of America before it was cool

In response to the Dred Scott decision of 1857, the increasingly extremists southerners began to advocate for full scale independence from the federal government. To this end, the Golden Circle would have become a single new country centered around Havana. Potential further conquests in South America and the Union aligned northeast and west were also discussed.

When the Civil War broke out, the GOLDEN CVRCLE more or less merged with Confederate interests and many of its members participated in the war. A radical paramilitary group called the Sons of Liberty were linked to guerilla activities in Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, and Illinois and several members were executed as spies.

The Golden Circle's fate became one with the Confederacy itself and came to an obvious end following the Civil War. That said, had the Confederacy won, it may very well have adopted the order's ideas for its long-term foreign policy,

And the people of modern Panama could be watching the Chiefs-Eagles game with a Miller Lite in hand just like us non-Spaniards right now as part of the GVLDVN CVRCLV

There were many reasons for Filibustering?

I worry that this posturing is due to the fact that they all know butt arent trying bring too much attention to the fact that WW3 really is breaking out and Canada/Greenland being annexex is a war strategy that Canada/US govt officials are preparing for. If WW3 were to break out the IS would definitely want/need to be able to have control over the panama canal fpr obvious reasons. Right now China has more control over the panama and obviously theyre gonna be on the other axis in a global war. Also Canada has been unfortunately quite infiltrated by the CCP aswell

-- @butthole

Besides that association with slavery, filibustering was also inspired by a simple desire for new lands. Filibusterers saw themselves as champions of America's "Manifest Destiny". The Texan Revolution in particular proved you truly could fill a Cathloid land with Anglo settlers and gradually transform it into a red-blooded All American good-ol'-boydom Even some of the revolutionaries of the Latin American republics were inspired by that concept to pursue their own goals against European colonialism, with Narciso Lopez having even met John L. O'Sullivan, the journoid who famously coined the term.

In the smaller, more personal scale, filibustering offered individuals the chance to have a grand old, drunken adventure and earn their glory with the boys It appealed to a sense of "martial manhood", especially for those just outside of the proper age ranges for the famous 19th century conflicts; War of 1812, Mexican-American War, Civil War, etc. The practice also offered cash flow for mercenaries and former military veterans whose careers had stalled or become ruined outright for one reason or another.

Lastly, some Americans genuinely believed in the importance of opposing tyranny and helping all of the New World to achieve total independence from the Old Thousands of Americans fought and died over the century under Latin American banners and for revolutionary conflicts entirely foreign to the US. Non-American examples of that also include Texans who fought to assist the Republic of the Yucatán and the British volunteers fighting under Simon Bolivar and Jose de San Martin.

Filibustering was never supported by Presidents not named Madison or Pierce and gradually declined into the 20th century. Of course, official American expansionism was still alive and well and the country's rising power soon saw new annexations. It is perhaps fitting that the era is bookended with the Spanish-American War and the seizure of the last of Spain's imperial, New World holdings.

Chuds why do you hate America? Why do you hate the constitution? What did James Madison ever do to you that you hate his work so much?

The 10th Amendment establishes the Anti-Commandeering Doctrine, this is that the federal government cannot force or order states to expend resources for federal functions. SCOTUS first established it in Prigg v. Pennsylvania when they found the federal government could not force states to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. The '97 landmark case of Printz v. United States was the most recent case they affirmed the doctrine and solidified its current form.

The federal government cannot force states to spend on enforcing federal laws. Immigration laws suffer a double blow because its also exclusive federal jurisdiction, states are not permitted to regulate immigration.

This is settled law. The bimbo is being r-slurred, and she hates America.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II's Pan Ptacek has hit up transvestite streamer Gilticus.

(According to the streamer)

The actor who played Pan in the game came across Zhenya's cosplay and wrote in a private message expressing his gratitude for her playing the game. A little later, he wrote more, "I don't remember ever seeing such a beautiful woman before." When people started writing to him saying that "such a beautiful woman" wasn't a woman at all, he replied that he didn't care about that and wasn't going to retract what he said

Trans WOMAN in question

Dirty sly chasing in progress revealed by streamer neo-egirl

https://m.twitch.tv/gilticus/clip/ColdbloodedEvilSlothImGlitch-PvCuq8vuXGg9p2aN

https://m.twitch.tv/gilticus/clip/FrozenSuperKumquatHoneyBadger-WNXTT1VeICknKXZF

https://m.twitch.tv/gilticus/clip/CreativeProtectiveRedpandaBudStar-d9Fu4vQzvv_H0Cbw

!chuds

https://old.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1imcka6/comment/mc224l0/?context=8

I remember going to WiE hours with my homework and they couldn't help me with a vectors problem. Maybe they are better in CS?

https://old.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1imcka6/comment/mc27uk4/?context=8

Apparently the correct answer to someone not knowing how to turn off a computer should be "so true queen 💅" and not "lol".

https://old.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1imcka6/comment/mc3ucxe/?context=8

Trans woman becomes worse at CS once she starts taking more estrogen. If she stayed as a masculine trans dude she'd probably be a monster.

Illustration I: the delusional debt hawk

Mandatory spending consumes 84%-87% of total federal revenue ever year. This is the spending that occurs without congress doing anything, mostly in gibs to the elderly. This will reach 100% of federal revenue by 2031. Neither party want anything to do with cutting Medicare or Social Security so its clearly a tax problem, while the Democrats are usually as r-slurred as the Republicans I am fairly certain they are the ones pushing for higher taxes vs the group calling for lower taxes.

If the federal government simply stopped spending anything at all it would take 11 years to pay down the debt right now. The current law gap, without accounting for continued demographic catastrophe or new nonsense congress comes up with, and to zero the debt at the typical 75 year window would require average effective rates to increase by 50%.

Social Security/Medicare are not going to be cut and taxes are not going to increase substantially. We are all fricked.

Illustration II: the chad rag making all chads even stupider

The title mentions TD but the article is actually about congress. TD actually does almost no spending (just its own operational stuff) and instead acts to hold government accounts, an agency tells them to send money and gives a budgetary authority code. Clearly trying to shill for Elon fricking around in the fiscal service.

Anyway the piece of fiction is talking about a congressional rule created in 1974 to try and manage spending. Congress decided they were going to split the legal authorization for the government to perform a function with the funding of that function and then have their own congressional rule that appropriations can only happen for authorized functions. Fantastic idea except the rule lasted about 2 years before they decided they didn't like having to justify why every time they created pork. Naturally they left the underlying law in place so CBO have to waste time & money tracking & reporting to congress on unauthorized appropriations every year. The real waste is CBO having to prepare the report.

The article is trying to claim;

• Congress violating a rule that no longer exists is illegal.

• This has something to do with TD.

• The spending wasn't entirely known and already tracked thus requiring an audit. Its citing a CBO report from July 2024.

• Elon and is merry band of cucks is remotely qualified to perform a financial audit.

This is also Elon:

TD are not the accounting arm of the federal government. Each agency are responsible for their own payments, TD are outright legally blocked from doing more than ensuring a payment is paid out of the right budget to the payee the agency specifies. Im sure Elon doesn't know this, for he is also an r-slur.

Illustration III: chuds don't understand that sometimes offices change showing they have the temporal reasoning abilities of a dog

I have no idea what the IRS data they are talking about is but their oldest and latest 660 has the same mailing address, here is the 2001 form

They seem to mostly operate out of DC at 2000 M St NW Suite 850, Washington, DC 20036

The abandoned address is the one they were at when their record was created in FPDS. FPDS is explicitly not an accurate or primary source of address or contact data, thats not what its for or how it functions. Im sure the big data experts in the chudosphere will have a solution for normalizing data across hundreds of disparate systems that wont cost billions and billions of dollars.

Nope, not so much.

Illustration IV: chuds want government to spend at all advertisers equally, they should not care if they actively misinform people

I expect People's Daily and RT to receive immediate ad buys from all of the federal government.

Illustration V: wherein rona was China designed at the behest of USAid to interfere with US elections

Viruses don't evolve naturally and viruses are sentient thus perform electoral interference at the behest of USAid. Rona only impacted the US after all, no other countries in the world were impacted at all.

The actual thing the "article" is talking about is

In an effort to identify and respond to new zoonotic diseases before they spread to humans, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) established its Emerging Pandemic Threats (EPT) program. The EPT program consists of four projects: PREDICT, RESPOND, IDENTIFY, and PREVENT. The PREDICT project seeks to identify new emerging infectious diseases that could become a threat to human health. PREDICT partners locate their research in geographic 'hotspots' and focus on wildlife that are most likely to carry zoonotic diseases – animals such as bats, rodents, and nonhuman primates.

USAid was funding viral surveillances around the world. Bats are extremely common here as they act as viral wells.

A year ago there was a survey of experts on likely origins https://www.science.org/content/article/virologists-and-epidemiologists-back-natural-origin-covid-19-survey-suggests

77% probability to a zoonosis, 21% to the lab-leak

One-quarter of respondents seemed to be very sure about a zoonotic origin, giving it a probability between 96% and 100%

This is the classic rightoid conundrum

They think no evidence of something occurring doesn't mean its not occurring, just that we haven't found evidence yet but it totally must be occurring because some guy on Twitter told me it was. Its absolutely possible rona was created in a lab; there is no evidence that occurred, the genetic structure of the virus makes it very unlikely that occurred and the researchers not publishing any intermediate research before or during creation of the virus is very unusual.

Illustration VI: feeding people in countries where terrorist groups are active is supporting terrorism

This is more that letting people starve to death is not acceptable when you have the means to prevent it rather than soft power but ok.

Over the last two years, USAID had funneled $2.3 billion in "humanitarian assistance" to Omar's native Somalia. Last year it reported a request for $1.6 billion in aid and even with the Biden administration on the way out the door, it sent an additional $29 million in December 2024.

Somalia, along with other Islamic terrorist entities, including the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Houthis in Yemen, and Hamas in Gaza, were among the top beneficiaries of USAID cash.

USAID boasted of having sent $2.1 billion to Gaza and the West Bank since the Hamas attacks of Oct 7. In 2024 alone, $917 million was programmed for the terrorist areas occupying Israel.

USAID provided over $3.7 billion to Afghanistan since the Taliban took over with $832 million in the previous fiscal year alone. The money was so unaccountable that USAID refused to cooperate with the U.S. Government's Afghan War watchdog tracking money going to terrorists.

Chud's think the US government just sends money to foreign governments as aid don't they? I also haven't seen the tiny ineffectual government of Somalia referred to as a terrorist before, that's chudtastic. Wait until they find out that both countries were exempted by Rubio from the shutdown. https://www.state.gov/emergency-humanitarian-waiver-to-foreign-assistance-pause/

Overwhelmingly aid to Somalia & Afghanistan is food & medical care. In the case of food this mostly takes the form of USAid buying surplus grain from US farmers, food aid has always been a giant gibs program for US farmers.

Illustration VII: media are all liars except when they agree with my feelings

I really love that top comment. Saying that totally unironically.

The media have spent decades destroying their own credibility and seemingly even with their industry going to shit they don't seem able to move from opinion mode to informational mode. I find it utterly hilarious that the chud response is not to create higher quality & more accurate news but instead to rely on batshit nonsense "journ*lists" who have no concept of fact checking and don't feel and ethical duty to tell the truth. I look forward to infowars reporting from the pentagon.

I want HBO to make a news show based around how this show represents coders to integrity to actually be.

Illustration VIII: we all love the constitution, except when it doesn't let things we want to do

Texas and a few other states have passed profoundly unconstitutional laws that try to criminalize people engaging in free association choosing not to associate. As defenders of the constitution I am sure chuds will be up in arms and calling for the immediate recall of those responsable.

Whoopsie, the first amendment was clearly written by communists anyway. We should kill that b-word.

Illustration IX: seal guy will totally fix a systems integration issue

Despite the constant claims otherwise the agencies that ultimately make up the branches of the DoD pass their audits. The issue is fundamentally that the headline branches can't globally audit all spending that occurs under them, its ultimately a systems & accounting integration issue. Currently the Navy are the problem branch, Army & AF have largely solved the problem. As with all spending its accounted for and is independently audited, you just can't get an accurate accounting from the Navy for all their spending and have to drop down a level or two. R-slurred and should absolutely be fixed but I look forward to Hegseth completely failing to fix it too.

The problem reminds me very much of https://federalnewsnetwork.com/it-modernization/2023/05/opms-new-approach-to-modernizing-retirement-services-is-all-about-small-bites/ FERS currently handles all retirement using a paper system under a mountain in PA. Two expensive rounds of attempted computerization have failed because unions wont allow changes that reduce headcount.

I see not evidence from Trump's first administration that he is even remotely the right person to tackle these issues. Fundamentally they require very substantial legislative changes that require bipartisan support. They require someone running the show who respects and listens to experts who can tell them what needs to happen so he can get that whipped. Congress have been incapable of doing that kind of work for decades and Trump's dementia clearly reduced his IQ from 80 to 12 but he still thinks its 9001.

Illustration X: guy who thinks economics peaked in 1908 and is 89 years old should lead an audit of the fed

https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/audited-annual-financial-statements.htm are the audits of the regional banks and BoG.

has been a long term r-slur on this issue

This one is the one I am looking forward to the most because its going to kick off either a massive backdown or an economic shitstorm. A few possibilities;

• As an independent agency the fed have no reason to let Elon in the building.

• Daddy likely doesn't have the authority to fire any member of the BoG.

• Attempting to frick with the fed would cause immediate financial chaos. Them being boring as frick and stable is kinda the basis of worldwide finance.

Ewer, 28, showed an unhealthy interest in her student that was noticed almost "immediately" after she started working at Brady Exploration School in August 2023, the DA Office's investigation revealed.

In November 2023, after the boy hinted at an improper relationship with Ewer in a classroom assignment that another teacher saw, authorities at the school contacted the Lakewood Police Department.

They soon uncovered evidence of a disturbing sexual relationship between the pair, including explicit text messages and signs that drugs, guns and alcohol had been introduced, per prosecutors.

Thousands upon thousands upon thousands" of messages were sent by Ewer to her student and vice versa, with references to many sexual encounters, according to prosecutors.

Ewer introduced the teenager to illegal and deadly drugs including fentanyl, First Judicial District Attorney's Office Special Victims Prosecutor Brynn Chase told her sentencing hearing.

She also attempted to get the boy to bring a gun to their sexual encounters as well as shoot a fellow faculty member in their school, the sentencing hearing heard.

Ewer told the boy "to bring the gun to school and shoot another faculty member in the leg," Chase said at the hearing.

Average dimwit American (aka teacher's) understanding of firearm usage

Ewer was sentenced to four years in jail on January 31, after pleading guilty last November to sexual assault on a child and contributed to the delinquency of a minor, both felonies, a month before her trial was due to start.

"I'm really sorry; this will never happen again," she said, as per the office.

Probably because nobody will let you around the 'tarded kids anymore

Before her brief spell there, Ewer had worked at several Jefferson County public schools in various roles, including teaching assistant, paraprofessional, and school nurse, since 2015.

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electrical circuits are binary—on or off, current…

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@Redactor0 @BrasilIguana @Gaydinosaurtrain @SCUM !historychads decided to just go ahead and make a post.

Despite Japan being closed to outsiders during the Edo period between 1603 to 1868, they still had some idea of the outside world. One interesting case was what they knew about the fledgling country of America. The following is a collection of different pages from a book about America's history called Osanaetoki Bankokubanashi written in 1861. After doing some digging it seems like this book was in earnest, it believed what it had written, taking its sources from two other books about America.

Here is George Washington (with bow and arrow) pictured alongside the Goddess of America.

Here is Christopher Columbus (seated at center) reporting his discovery of America to Queen Isabella of Spain.

Now it's the American Revolution. Here is George Washington defending his wife "Carol" from a British official named "Asura" (same characters as the Buddhist deity).

And here is Washington's "second-in-command" John Adams battling an enormous snake.

Here is Washington and his wife "Carol" meeting an extremely youthful Benjamin Franklin, who has an impressive squat.

Here's the incredibly jacked Benjamin Franklin firing a cannon that he holds in his bare hands, while John Adams directs him where to fire.

And here is George Washington straight-up punching a tiger.

Best buds John Adams and Ben Franklin must have had a falling out, because John Adams fires an arrow at Ben and then rides away like a cowardly little b-word. Of course Ben Franklin is a total badass, so he just stands there and lets the arrow fly by without even flinching.

During a calmer moment, John Adams is just chillin' in the countryside, having a quiet picnic with his elderly mother...

But then! While John Adams is too obsessed with the food and drink, a huge snake comes along and eats his mom!

Maybe the snake was a child of that other snake John Adams killed, or maybe it was sent by Ben Franklin as part of their feud?

Here is Washington leading his army from behind in a carriage. The American flag has no stars, only stripes, and the author seems very impressed that the carriage has not one but TWO horses.

Meanwhile, John Adams wants to get revenge on the snake that ate his Mom , so he goes to ask a magical mountain fairy for help!

The mountain fairy does Adams a solid, and summons a gigantic eagle!

Together, John Adams and the eagle kill the enormous snake that ate his Mom. The power of teamwork!!!

So that's it, really interesting blend between a modern idea like the US and more mythical storytelling. Reads a lot like tales of Alexander the Great or of bible characters like David. Cool illustrations too. There are more pages, but I can't find any translation, despite them looking very interesting. Here's the whole book: https://archive.wul.waseda.ac.jp/kosho/bunko11/bunko11_a0380/bunko11_a0380_0002/bunko11_a0380_0002.html

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Wikipedia's "talk" page on the Gulf of Mexico/America/Cuba/Florida has been in an uproar the past few weeks because of 's EO to change its name. Some highlights:

If the international groups such as the United Nations group of experts on geographical names (meeting in April), the International Maritime Organisation and the International Hydrographic Organization opt-in to recognising the U.S. owned portion of the gulf as the Gulf of America, then I agree that we should concede to the name. Somejeff (talk) 05:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

To both sides of this "question", this entire discussion is moot, since the moment Donald Trump leaves office the next President of the United States will immediately reverse the name-change order. The Gulf of Mexico will remain The Gulf of Mexico so long as modern human society endures. Looneybunny (talk) 22:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

We should call it the Gulf of the Olmecs since they were there first

Google just announced there changing it on their maps Bamaboi445 (talk) 23:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Google is not Wikipedia. Accuratelibrarian (talk) 02:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

You had no problem with President Obama changing the name from Mount McKinley to Denali it's over if that's what president Trump wants that's what he gets you can still go on to Google maps and this nonsense on here Wikipedia and I still got to hear the same bullshit if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander it changes and it needs to be changed now today not yesterday because you don't like trump it don't matter I voted for Obama I voted for that change I didn't like that Mount McKinley got changed him out Denali but because I voted for it happened it going to happen fight it love it leave it it does not matter it's changing and we're not going to stop until it does 65.102.184.179 (talk) 10:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

In case editors don't realize, usage of this name has already begun: "an area of low pressure moving across the Gulf of America, interacting with Arctic air, will bring widespread impactful winter weather to North Florida, etc." StAnselm (talk) 04:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

That "source" is from the POLICTICAL OFFICE of a well-known extremist right-wing supporter of Donald Trump. It is not a reliable, nor independent source, and therefore should be discounted Looneybunny (talk) 22:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't see why a mention would be a problem considering the fact that American schools (and media) will soon be teaching it as the Gulf of America. Jstewart2007 (talk) 04:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Also, the moment Donald Trump leaves office the next President of the United States, (who will, considering recent events, most assuredly be a Democrat), will reverse the order, and the "Gulf of America" will vanish as quickly as it appeared, just another example of exactly why Donald Trump was the worst pick for President in American history. Looneybunny (talk) 22:35, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

This Looneybunny person has posted similar comments on multiple reply chains even if it is questionably relevant

Seriously, how long are the admins going to drag their feet on an official government change? Regardless of whether people like it or not the Government of the U.S. as well as major state and private institutions will refer to it as the Gulf of America going forward unless the change is reversed. The title of the article doesn't have to change but the intro to the page should at the very least include "also known as the Gulf of America in the United States" and there should be a new page on the dispute itself like the pages for the disputes around names of the Persian Gulf and Sea of Japan respectively, instead of relegating it to two clearly tacked paragraphs at the end of the etymology section. No one else outside of the Koreas calls the Sea of Japan the "East Sea" but the article intro still recognizes the dispute's existence, why isn't this any different? Syracuse58 (talk) 00:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Because it's Drumpf silliness and not something that has to be indulged here. Among all the other reasons given. Acalamari 02:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

I think we're going to be stuck fielding whatabouts from the people who erroneously believe that the United States should be allowed to rewrite reality like O'Brien from 1984 for a very long time if we don't start aggressively clerking this page. An RfC generally has a shelf-life of minimum six months. Can we please have a moratorium on discussions of American nicknames for the Gulf of Mexico for the next six months so that we have the clarity of consensus necessary to clerk these repetitive arguments promptly? Simonm223 (talk) 14:57, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

The nonsense is from those fighting so hard to pretend like the American government doesn't have the authority to name things. It's hilarious to see how quickly Wikipedians tripped over themselves to change Mount McKinley to Denali, and how hard they're ignoring the same arguments to change it back, same with this page. Ortizesp (talk) 15:20, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Funnily enough, although both the Gulf of Mexico and Denali name change were part of the same EO, Denali's wikipedia page intro has already been changed to include the tagline "Denali, federally designated as Mount McKinley"

Oppose, see the example of Clingmans Dome, which was changed by Wikipedia the very same day Biden changed it. Funnily, all these scruples about COMMONNAME and all those "voices of concern" were nowhere to be seen. XavierItzm (talk) 01:13, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

This is a comment for the RFC that isn't open right now. Comparing a relatively obscure mountain in Tennessee to an internationally important body of water isn't doing this argument any favors, politically motivated or otherwise. Departure– (talk) 01:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

We should rename the Atlantic Ocean to the American Ocean so that people stop worrying about the gulf name change since then it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

Strong Support It is important to address the elephant in the room here: There is a strong liberal bias on Wikipedia. By comparison, the Obama administration changed the name of Mount McKinley to Denali in 2015, and the Wikipedia editors were almost tripping over themselves trying to make the name change from Mount McKinley to Denali. I understand that the Gulf of Mexico is a different case in that the Gulf of Mexico is not entirely within the borders of the United States, as Denali/Mount McKinley is, but I think that at the very least the president's executive order must warrant changing the title to: "Gulf of Mexico, officially the Gulf of America in the United States." To me, any opposition to simply noting that it is officially called the Gulf of America in the U.S. is bald-faced activism protesting the name change more than it is actually rooted in reason, evidence, and consistency across articles. U.S. Federal Agencies will henceforth be referring to it as the Gulf of America. If someone sees the name Gulf of America on a U.S. Federal map and enters it into Wikipedia, they'll need to scroll down to the middle of the page and read a paragraph buried in the article containing irrelevant information such as a comedian Stephen Colbert's comments on the name to try to make sense of why they're seeing Gulf of America on a map. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia designed to transmit information; activism and bias should be discouraged. (For evidence of such activism and bias, just look at the opposing comments above describing this as a "stunt"; yet no one ever described Obama's name change from McKinley to Denali as a "stunt." Such opposing positions are not rooted in reason, only bias and activism.) Ambrosiaster (talk) 18:48, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

This really is the essence of false balance. "We shouldn't call something Trump does a stunt, unless we can also describe something unrelated that Obama did as a stunt." (We can unpack the facts if you like, but this isn't the Denali page; it's the Gulf of Mexico page.) Things can be qualitatively different from each other. Describing different things with different terms isn't bias, it's analysis. And sometimes the analysis can quite validly (if informally) be 'yeah, that's a stunt'. Biden claiming to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment was also a stunt. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

NB: The above user is currently blocked from editing in the main space, as a sanction for having edit warred on the Gulf of Mexico article. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:26, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Correct. And the editors who were warring to include comments from comedian Stephen Colbert and to revert the changes with even more frequency than me were not temporarily blocked from editing. Further evidence of bias and activism. Thanks for pointing that out. Ambrosiaster (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

That's an interesting linguistic tic you've got there, always pairing "bias and activism". GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Still waiting on that analysis you alluded to in your prior post. Ambrosiaster (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Nope. I mentioned that it's possible, which it is. I'm not here to perform for you; your own biases are showing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Figured that would be your response. Ambrosiaster (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Support in a way its very similar to Deadnaming if the federal government wants it to be Gulf of America then that is what it should be called. Did we have this type of vote when Ellen Page changed her bame to Elliot? I know its not a human but it still applies here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fruitloop11 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

You mean his name'. And no it's not, because Eliot Page is the leading authority on what his own name is - it's within his power to choose it, and he did. He is, in fact, the individual affected. Neither the President of the USA, nor the US government generally, are the Gulf of Mexico, nor do they own or control it. It's international waters, and it is beyond the power of any arm of the US government to change its name unilaterally - even in common usage within the USA, never mind globally. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:20, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

You are so terrified, I can tell your hands start shaking every time you type. The fact is it WILL be changed you need to stop harassing all support voters. Imagine if someone was allowed to harass you while you voted Harris, which you 100% did. Even another user has warned you to stop Fruitloop11 (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Please refrain from personal attacks. You are wrong about my voting, for a reason that should be apparent upon reflection. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm literally about to report you for harassment. the admins will see user:Wildfireupdateman giving you a warning and the harassment you made against User:Ambrosiaster user:AnotherWeatherEditor and many others. and no, I will not call Ellen Page Elliot Page until you stop bothering people. Fruitloop11 (talk) 16:19, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

You are welcome to try. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:26, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia Jannies hid this one in spoilered text simply titled "Enough."

Thank you. This user's engagement certainly veers more on mud-slinging than it does on civil discourse in my opinion as well: (1) She told me I have a linguistic tic and (2) She tried to undermine my position by claiming that I had a very temporary ban for an edit war. She is free to reason through it, but she is mostly engaging in name-calling and attempting to shame the support voters. Ambrosiaster (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I knew before I posted she was going to reply to me, so I was on the defense. I think anyone will see this person isn't using the discussion board the way it is intended. It's all about bullying someone who doesn't have the views as you. Fruitloop11 (talk) 16:49, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

This strikes me as in line with Facebook's actions of lightening censorship and Twitter's actions of existing past 2022 of trying to be in line with the new Trump government because if I'm not mistaken they're facing a pretty serious federal anti-trust lawsuit. What shows up in Google maps does not necessarily reflect what is in common usage. Departure– (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

You do understand that this is merely a question of entering in the lead ", officially Gulf of America in the United States," not to change the title wholesale. As pointed out earlier, the moment that the Obama admin changed the name Mt McKinley to Denali, liberal Wikipedia editors changed it forthwith and added the hashtag #ThanksObama! Common usage was moot at that time because everyone knows that the common used term was Mount McKinley, not Denali. But now all of a sudden common usage returns to the forefront. Ambrosiaster (talk) 04:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

In sum, stop treating common usage as a dispositive factor. It was not dispositive for Mount McKinley, and in that case, the entire article name was changed—a much more drastic measure than is being proposed here. Ambrosiaster (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No personal attacks: "Comment on content, not on the contributor." Better read up the policy. Also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Gotitbro (talk) 04:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

I hope that is not directed at me. Defining someone who posted #ThanksObama in the edit line of the Denali article as a liberal is a personal attack? Read the link I shared above: While redirecting the Mt McKinley article to Denali, an editor inserted the political line into the edit #ThanksObama. That to me is far less neutral and inappropriate than me defining such an individual as a liberal. Certainly a conservative didn't write #ThanksObama. No one was attacked personally here. Ambrosiaster (talk) 06:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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Bonus: The Denali Wikipedia talk page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Denali

Opppose (changing the name back to McKinley on the website) per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CRYSTAL. This move request is premature and entirely based on a political maneuver that likely is not going to affect the common nomenclature of the mountain. Its status among governmental figures is not relevant to the article's name. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 15:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

In the above discussions, it's been made clear that both are common names. If "McKinley" is the name that the government and Associated Press are going to use, it should be given precedence as the title. Derpytoucan (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Are the majority of reliable sources going to follow the federal government and the Associated Press? Is every publication that adopts the AP stylebook going to discard Denali completely? It's too soon to tell, and we shouldn't react on the spur of the moment. XOR'easter (talk) 20:03, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

How many times is the goalpost of "well not ALL RS call it McKinley" going to be moved over the next four years? There's already a precedent that's been set when the article was renamed in 2015. If McKinley is a common name, and its the name that the federal government and Associated Press are going to be using, it should be the article's title. I'm fine with waiting until the Secretary of the Interior has actually made the name change official, and perhaps seeing how other RS call the mountain when reporting on that event, but implying that we need to wait any longer to rename the article is absurd, especially given the aforementioned instant renaming in 2015.Derpytoucan (talk) 21:31, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Stop WP:BLUDGEONing the discussion. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 23:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't see this as bludgeoning. @Derpytoucan makes a good point. anikom15 (talk) 03:13, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Repeatedly replying to multiple commenters is textbook BLUDGEON. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 13:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk about projection because that's exactly what you're doing. Esotericmadman (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Bonus bonus: The edit page for the Gulf of Mexico webpage:

106 edits in the last 24 hours alone

I've always believed that Wikipedia is a goldmine for drama and petty squabbles between self-centered know-it-alls, but I usually can't care to look into it because I find the layout of their website atrocious.

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Oh boy oh gee willikers Braveman. Another week another Furryfox is fricking shit-tier garbage post lmfao

Go on Mozzarellacels, do it https://brave.com/download/

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