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Honestly, I think Facebook has an algorithm that does this on purpose... If you scroll back to about one week ago, this was just another lame group posting unfunny normie memes. However, within the last week the Chuds and Soys have been doing battle and all of a sudden it appears in my feed lol.

Link to group:

www.facebook.com/groups/3472699292999947/

First post:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17368883241s_yVGMjR4WBnQ.webp

1. :marseyindignant: :marseynerd2: "you wouldn't know satire if it held a bolter to your temple" :marseysoyhype: :marseysoylentgrin: :marseyakshually: nerd posting intensifies

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888324l_agVpBhyZySAg.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888324SJzTXgsQeblgTg.webp

2. :marseyindignant: :marseyredneck: "You call this satire? Not a chance..." :marseyhomofascist: :marseysjw: "another dribbler that thinks ironic settings can't be satire"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888324jsMuqMyxIkEwgg.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888324tIxDTzhnp_xBuQ.webp

Second post:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888324pqexsrHp4-hdtw.webp

1. :marseysmug2: "yet you wear a mask" :marseyderp: "this you, bro?"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325q19-egvyB8TezA.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173688832599myq6UHI3_stA.webp

2. :marseydisgust: "wearing a mask in your profile photo... you look like a big P***" :marseyxd: "I laughed way too hard at this, he looks like his Mom dressed him in that suit"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325eofn9O6N5jnZUw.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325xk94332zLz4Yiw.webp

Third post:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325dXd4qZ3WtgX0xQ.webp

1. :marseyradfem: "Chuds are obsessed with gay people" :handsomechud: posts George Floyd Trans meme lol

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325BUF6bIHv2cp3zA.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888325g2qslckc8X7OYg.webp

2. :chudmuslim: "why all the gay shit... I don't get it..." :marseyhomofascist: "cry harder" :chudmuslim: "Say something intelligent. Queer and gay is a bad combination"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888673Oz11aehHOZhiLQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888673_0VX8a77ETUGoQ.webp

Fourth Post:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888326l9TN2AZcnZ5Xhg.webp

1. :marseyfemboy: :marseysmug2: "can someone define woke?" :chudmutt: "I'm glad you asked" proceeds to post great wall of text lol

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888326A-P3t5lxkYckKw.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17368883262vMvcxUvTiq2kA.webp

2. :soyjakhipster: "all that matters is the class war!" :chudjakcry: "I'm being told to tolerate people who hate my race!" :marseysigh: "having to read about culture wars in my dorky manbaby FB group..."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17368883260ueRGD4veM8c1Q.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736888326SRehoKNkf-EZbA.webp

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https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1icoigf/trump_administration_halts_hiv_drug_distribution/m9sh17q/?context=8

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Post funny and good centrist comics

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739161158w65jV0h3e3DIQQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739161158vbVGP_TRpRi0WQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739161158E2BrLRWUeIQVJg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739161158faMTPBB8nYqVSw.webp

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Nelson Mandela's Grandson Arrested for Car Hijacking :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17364908944AfqaK_Bz3KgNg.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173649089478Ve95IYm7SnWA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490894iucja5Ds-0FAOg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490894BHzwAOPN09yWWg.webp

"The Apple hasnt fallen far from the tree." :chudspin: :chudspin: :chudspin:

:slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490894iyTaKlovf8oHoA.webp

"They must also be charged with neglecting to maintain his grandfather's house. Their punishment should be to paint and landscape the house." :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490894tRWyOP9U51S3eA.webp

"Fake News 😑😑 allow those innocent children to go" :marseybeanangry:

"Innocent like Zuumi?" :smugjak:

"Oh my goodness....you need to catch a serious wake up. They would even steal from innocent people like you!!!!!!!" :soyjakhipster: :marseyxd:

:marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: are a dramatic bunch.


https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2025-01-09-mandelas-grandson-arrested-on-hijacking-charge-at-houghton-home/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490894_wnXa9zW3noXgg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17364908940xZ0pJxx3xPinA.webp

====(from businesslive)

The property previously owned by former president Nelson Mandela in Houghton, where his grandson Mbuso was arrested with four hijacking suspects on Wednesday, was in use by Mbuso, the family has confirmed.

Mbuso Mandela's older brother, Ndaba, said his younger brother had lived on the property for years and had neglected it.

Mbuso is expected to appear in the Johannesburg magistrate's court on Friday with four other suspects.

The arrests followed information from a vehicle tracking company on the location of a white Toyota Corolla that was hijacked on Wednesday on Louis Botha Avenue in Oaklands, said Johannesburg Metropolitan Police Department (JMPD) spokesperson Xolani Fihla.

Fihla said the police had recovered the vehicle and arrested four men and a woman.

====(end quote)


https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/nelson-mandelas-grandson-among-four-arrested-in-hijacking-incident-6e30657f-2394-4fc4-87f0-0fde8e2186b1

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17364908952WEzMzwKxAM-wQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490895W5vXXTOSG70kiQ.webp


https://9gag.com/gag/aYQVABx#comment

Chuds :marseychud: :marseychud: :marseychud: of 9strag weight in

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736490895amudq_Zewn2QAA.webp

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[oldposting] white Redditor tries to show the Black People around him that he's not raysis

saw a screenie of the original post from two years ago and had to see if it was real

mildly entertaining

Anyone else try to show nearby black people that they're listening to Kendrick Lamar?

Today i was on standing the train, listening to the new album and i noticed that there was a black guy standing behind me.

I wanted to show him that i'm not racist and am in fact all for black rights, so i opened spotify, put brightness on max and held my phone up (discretely) so he could see me jamming it to the 🐐.

On the train ride back there was a black man sitting across from me so i did one better. I chucked on To Pimp a Butterfly, held my phone flat so he could see it and gave him a small nod.

I like to believe that i'm on the right side of history. I feel like they probably respected me for that.

Anyone else do this?


Comment section is mostly Shoah'd. Can't tell if bait or r-slurred.

!masterbaiters !r-slurs !kowalski

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:marseydisgustnotes: COMMUNITY NOTED YOU CAN CHECK :marseyelonpaypig: FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT! VAUSH, AELLA, AND RICHARD :marseydawkins: HANANIA WERE FUNDED BY THE GOV

!jannies pin

https://datarepublican.com/officers/

Community Note by @Aevann

None of these people received funding from USAID:

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Greeneonin nukes their forum
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https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/vial-of-morphine-allegedly-found-in-bankstown-hospital-locker-of-sydney-nurse-ahmed-rashid-nadir-as-nsw-police-probe-antisemitic-video/news-story/15aea505cede20e4b0787856c8321116

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739647588MeFpYJVUdJj7Mg.webp

Apparently the male :marseyisis: also had drugs in his personal locker.

!jidf how long are we giving this rowdy buck :marseymerchant:

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The President of Cocaine says that Cocaine is actually super cool and based and anti-racist.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738897758Yk8JRAs9HPUJrg.webp :marseycocaine#:

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Now he's forcing them back into the office AND to accept the brave and valid innoculations. Reminder that :marseydarktrump: was a massive supporter of le covid vaccines

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-publicly-defends-covid-19-vaccines-slams-mandates/story?id=81914671

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2021/12/23/trump-still-likes-the-trump-vaccine-495540

:marseybiden: even praised him for getting the vaccines done

https://nypost.com/2021/12/21/biden-praises-trump-for-operation-warp-speed-getting-covid-booster/

also part of the $500billion AI "stargate" project is going to be for devoloping vaccines

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mrna-vaccine-cure-cancer-ai-2018701

:marseychud: and :marseyschizotwitch: in shambles

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1i83n25/trump_revokes_biden_executive_order_that_had/

https://media.tenor.com/PpEFsxHmLnMAAAAx/andy-samberg-no-refunds.webp

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I really want Elon to royally frickup Social Security, Medicaid, Medicaid, and piss off all old voters to go after the GOP.

:marseyxd: :marseypearlclutch: :marseyinshallah:

I hope his zoomer twinks royally frickup and crash websites, block payments for months.

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@Sandkwinn believes the Holocaust was a joint effort by Zionists and Nazis to kill all non-zionist Jews.

Nothing says 'I'm not an antisemite' like spouting Holocaust revisionism completely unprompted.

I think she thougth me saying 'Ashkenazi' was a reference to Nazis because she doesn't know that that's how it's actually spelled.

She also believes that Trump is Jewish because only jews are allowed to wear a kippah

!jidf

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Tips on trolling people from the middle kingdom :marseychingchong:

I've been browsing XiaoHongShu ever since the tiktok ban. If you don't know what XiaoHongShu (on the app store it is called Rednote) is it is basically the Chinese pinterest, if pinterest was more video oriented. Actual Chinese tiktok is only available for those with a Chinese phone number so a lot of american creators talked about going to XHS around the time of the Tiktok ban.

Its a pretty cool app, I was surprised that the algo would guide me to thick women so quickly considering that isn't in style in asia. But in my time on the app I came to notice that chinese people have some very thin skin and big egos about their nation, their national standing, and what is and isn't Chinese. Anyways here are some quick tips on how to troll em.

1. Talk about how great the game Astrobot is:

Recently Astrobot, a silly marioesque platformer, won game of the year over Black Myth Wukong, a game by Chinese devs that follows a classic Chinese story. This ENRAGED Chinese g*mers as Black Myth was super popular and had a real shot at getting China it's first game of the year, and to see it beat by this childish platformer where the main character rides a ps5 like a rocket ship was triggering :pepereeeeee:. I think that all you have to say is something to the effect of "what do you guys think of Astrobot? I really like it" to get waves of chicom malding.

2. Say Lunar new year instead of Chinese new year:

Chang is very protective of things he thinks as Chinese, some other asian countries decided to call Chinese new year Lunar new year and now Chang wants to put the Chin back in Chinkmas. Chinese people also claim Kimchi, sushi, the color red, and if the pattern continues they are going to say that they invented the Nanking massacre. They claim that it is the Koreans that actually do this, and say that Koreans claim christmas as a Korean holiday. As far as I can tell they just completely made this up on their own.

3. Downplay the importance of China in history:

To no surprise to anyone, the middle kingdom acts like they are at the center of the universe. They are super protective of the idea that China was a super important part of the world, while this isn't wrong they are REALLY insecure about it and constantly make up attacks to react to.

Like "Westerners say that Rome conquered China!" uh... no?

"Westerners deny Chinese history!" No, what does happen is that historians don't take stories of ancient Chinese dynasties as fact when there is no physical evidence or contemporary accounts of these empires.

4. Perform horrific medical experiments on them as part of unit 731 :trollface:

Like a boss


					
					
					
	

				
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Pizzashill Turns Down Fight with WootFatigue
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Converted to Islam for him, then we split. Feeling lost and alone.
No idea what I'm expecting here in terms of advice tbh.

I was involved with a man who I regarded as my soulmate, things were looking serious. We talked about marriage and the future.

He was from a Muslim background in the Middle East. I'd always been interested in his religion (Islam) and had been studying it. After a couple of years with him, I took the step of converting. Everyone in my family and friends were supportive as they knew it was my choice. There was never any pressure from him.

After converting, we scaled back on the physical side of things and both said it would be best to get married. I was all for this, loved him to bits and wanted my life with him and believed he felt the time.

Unfortunately, his parents back home in his native country had other ideas and wanted an arranged marriage to someone of their choice... After months of trying to make them see reason, he wasn't strong enough to stand by me. So I ended our relationship as I could see it was going to end in tears.

I feel so alone in Islam now. I live in a small semi rural area with no mosque, no community to speak of and I've been shying away from wanting to move on. I feel at a crossroads. There's no chance of meeting a Muslim man here. I feel so lost without him, although I feel ending it with him was the right thing to do as he'd never go against his parents' wishes. Even though he was almost 30 and well-educated.


I'm no so much looking for a husband.. It will take me a long time to get over losing him. He was the first man I ever really loved and imagined a life with. I'm just feeling a bit isolated in terms of being "the only Muslim in the village" so to speak. It's a small and very "white", middle-class community. My ex and I met at uni in a big city, where it's more common to see other Muslims and different nationalities.

I'm feeling so many different things, feel like he's thrown me under the bus. I made so much effort and sacrifice for him, changed my whole way of life and even aspects of my diet and appearance. Yet he couldn't even just stand up for me (with his parents) when it mattered. He claimed to be in love with me (I was his first), yet didn't feel able to have any firm discussion with his parents about marrying me and going through with it.

I feel that being Muslim, this would put non-Muslim men totally off me. Especially with all the negativity around the religion in the media and so on. I don't even have anyone to do Ramadan with, or even talk about the religion.

tfw only muslim in the village :marseyniqab:

also he absolutely knew he was eventually going to marry someone else, but as she said, they were engaging in the 'physical side of things' and moids will be moids if you let them do that

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https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/208713765#p208713765

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:drafts: Does this look like a couple in love to you?

Ari clearly has the ick.

I can't get over Ari's hand :marseyxd: She's posing like this is an annoying fan that wants a quick selfie, not the guy she fricked and destroyed two marriages to have.

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/u/Judah_Earl:

People really need to stop making heroes out of online personalties. You'd have thought they'd have learned their lesson from pointless celebrity worship. :marseyprojection:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m808vwv/?context=8


/u/Kino_Chroma

Ideologically motivated moralists suck no matter what their political leanings. It's why I can't stand Matt Walsh even though he attacks stupid shit. :marseygrilling2:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m8039j2/?context=8

:#!hesrightyouknow:


/u/MaxAngor:

I fricking hate moral grandstanders. LET DEVS MAKE WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE! :soyjaktantrum:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m802ib0/?context=8

:#!hesrightyouknow::#!hesrightyouknow::#!hesrightyouknow: but please Mr. KiNeurodivergent, no loliBIPOCshit! :marseysmughips:


/u/ZhaneBadguy

"Only my freedom is the correct freedom, you degenerate bigot!"

That was fast. The pendulum just started swinging back and they're already grifting on the other end. :marseytrumpgrill:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m803n6b/?context=8


/u/ErikaThePaladin95k:

If you love games, if you love artistic freedom, then you do not have allies on the "left" or the "right". Regardless of what they say, they all have ulterior motives. :marseyserioushatfact:

I'm an independent, and always have been since I first registered to vote, and this weird, sudden heelturn of those who supposedly pushed for freedom of speech proves why I never considered myself a conservative even if they had (temporarily) agreed with me. :surejan:

If you push for censorship, you are my enemy. Simple as that. :smugjak:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m818xj5/?context=8

:#marseytruthnuke:


/u/lyra833

Speaking as an open-and-out reactionary, the single greatest enemy to any postwar right wing movement has been that conservatives are placed in charge of them to make sure they never get anywhere. :chudseethe:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m81tcki/?context=8

:#speechbubble:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735603279w_Yn8WCQxBJgjA.webp


/u/comicguy69

I mean a lot of conservatives…ya know…hate porn and hate half naked women showing their body in media. If they're conservative this really isn't shocking or surprising. It's just their beliefs.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m806bg6/?context=8

Wait, Pastor Bubba Muttison (R) doesn't likes my loli tranime hentai game?, I thought that we were friends because we both hated Woke Commies?!, he doesn't thinks that Japanese cartoon porn is going to save Western civilization and the White race from Globohomo Marxists?! :#marseysurprisedpikachu:


/u/arselkorv

Thats why its so cringe to see these prude leftists nowadays, complaining about a 5 pixel boob window; Theyre acting exactly like the conservatives that they claim to hate so much. They have so many bad things in common.

For us who grew up in the 90s(and i guess 80s too) its like a flashback. They're all the same shits, trying to ruin entertainment and true art, by deciding what is or isnt allowed.

I never had any issue with either of them until they started acting like peepees, destroying my entertainment and telling us we are whatever bad thing they can think of, just cause we dont agree 100% with them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m810szc/?context=8

:#!hesrightyouknow: prepare to switch attacking Woke SJWs to the Evangelical "Catholics" in the past four years, soldier of autism!


/u/Ghost5410

Yes Razorfist has chosen to destroy his credibility with his defending of Melonie Mac because she quotes scripture to deflect what's wrong. Heck he recently jumped down Act Man's throat saying he doesn't want Twerking in M-Rated games. I know Act Man is hated here but this response by Razor is just garbage. By the way if you attack Melonie Mac you're a Chinese shill and an agent of the CCP now according to Razor's recent livestream.

The rest are extremely simple to explain to be dismissed. Jon Del Arroz is a wife beater. The Quartering is a grifter. John F. Trent has been mask off for several years now and there's a reason he left Bounding into Comics and went to That Park Place now (I still don't like WDW Pro having him on his staff). Aristocratic Utensil doesn't believe in free speech at all because it gives the plebs a voice and is a Monarchist who fled his home country of South Africa.

:#marseysurprisedpikachu:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m805sat/?context=8


/u/Number3124

I'm pretty disappointed by RazΓΆrfist. He's a metalhead, and fan of actually Satanic Black Metal too. He knows his BS about the Satanic Panic not being real is BS.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m80ad1o/?context=8


/u/RainbowDildoMonkey

He has embraced religion i heard. :marseysurprisedpikachu:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m80aszt/?context=8

Trends bud, trends, hence why Norse Pagan aesthetic is all but dead in Neo-Nazi circles outside of Black Metal and prison gangs, and the Trvthnuke-dropping Fundie-obliterating Scientific Atheists are dead outside of reddit, in 2025, being a Trad Christian Fundamentalist is the counterculture and edgy fandom in modern Westoid culture.


/u/Number3124

A while ago. You can tell when he changed his sign off from, 'God fricking speed!" to "Godspeed!" He also compared his own life to Alice Cooper's a lot in his Alice Cooper Metal Mythos.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m80b4jk/?context=8

:#marseydarkxd:


/u/Own_Dig2105

Are you surprised? Back in the 90s the conservetives (:eslsoyjak:) were the ones pushing censorship.

Now that the pendulum is swinging to the right prepare yourself to fight againts the moral busybodys of the right, the fight against censorship and authoritarianists never ends.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m80jswe/?context=8

:#!hesrightyouknow:


/u/Cenobite_Tulpa

So, you know how, as we used to say, 'SJW's always eat their own'? :smugjak:

One of the reason a group starts cannibalizing itself over internal disagreements is because it perceives its external threats as defeated. Part of the reason SJW's were so eager to tear into themselves was because they correctly assessed themselves as being in control of the political climate. :marseyserioushatfact:

Well, now Trump has won a second term and woke is being declared dead in the news media, these people have decided that now their team is in power, they don't need a bunch of weirdo nerds like us anymore. :marseyseethe:

Personally, I don't think the wokes are anywhere near as defeated as these guys think they are. We could easily have the democrats win again come 2028, and if they do, it will again be largely through the same coalition of women and 'brown' people. :marseyxdoubt:

Don't argue with them. I suggest just turning your back on all of these people. Every voice that opposes your ideas, suffocate it. Deny it the oxygen of your engagement. They've decided they don't need you, so respond in kind. You don't need them. :marseyserioushatfact:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m80nz8a/?context=8


/u/zukoismymain

I just wish someone could explain to me what sort of dumb do you have to be to fall for the ol "I'm a christian!" shtick from a tattooed divorcee hypocritical E-Girl with 3-4 chockers on, wearing nothing but revealing clothing with a blow up lara croft in her background, pretending to be a teen. (:autism;:)

Like. Can we get the iq of these people and plot a graph? I have some theories I'd like to test. :soysnootypefast:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m823sqr/?context=8

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/002/306/067/669.jpg


/u/ThanosDidNadaWrong

she used to be a zealot FOR lgbt crap, now she moralizes while skimpy dressed :marseycoomer2:

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m82ij5f/?context=8

:#marseywomanmoment2: !g*mers !grillers !r-slurs !accelerationists

/u/____IIIII___ll__I

The very definition of a grifter.

I also think she genuinely feels threatened that video game women are leagues hotter than she is.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m86usq2/?context=8

:#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: :#marseytruthnuke: !truthnuke !foidmoment

No matter the ideology, country, race, or religion, foids will always be foids :marseyshapiro:


/u/Large_Pool_7013

I have no problem with people having tastes but that tolerance ends where they start trying to dictate what I can and can't enjoy.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17033860892209353.webp

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m8062nq/?context=8


/u/AnarcrotheAlchemist:

Mac called games like First Descendent soft porn, while also making posts calling for banning all porn.

These guys are playing the same game that progressives played where they claim they aren't trying to get anything banned or censored, they are just criticising it but as soon as they got into a position where they could implement their ideology they started censoring things.

One of this subs core values is anti censorship. Anyone be it left or right that wants censorship is someone this sub opposes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1i522i2/conservative_content_creators_online/m81efik/?context=8

:#soyjakbouncetalking:


And to end this thread, here is a schizokino:

/u/Probate_Judge:

These guys are playing the same game that progressives played where they claim they aren't trying to get anything banned or censored

I think you're seeing monsters under the bed that don't exist.

Are they calling around to people's employers to try to get them fired, people's spouses to try to stir shit in a relationship, etc etc etc.?

That's the game progressives have been playing for the past decade+. If you're going to claim the other side is doing it in regards to these games, you're going to need more than vague accusations. I want to see direct calls to action.

What I see, in general, is people leaving a critique, and this thread seeming to be focusing into some kind of groupthink situation.

Basically it seems as if people can't criticize something they don't like. We've now got this affirmation only culture thing going on here?

Purity spirals weren't on the menu.

Make called games like First Descendent soft porn, while also making posts calling for banning all porn.

This is a bit of connecting the dots, a bit of a reach. I don't know how else to say it. You're associating two different statements said at different times.

Are they saying that First Descendent needs banned? This is a yes / no question. You are not a mind reader, like a lot of progressives, you don't get to lecture everyone else on "What they really mean, because they made this other tweet while taking a shit one day, trust me bro".

Because I'm not seeing it.

Bring some concrete evidence where they want to ban jiggle physics, ban Bayonetta, TFD, etc etc etc. If you're going to be associating dispsarate tweets that may even be hyperbole or satire or pointed or figurative....this is all I can see.

One of this subs core values is anti censorship.

In games, sure. I haven't seen anyone call for censorship that's relevant to the sub's interest.

Actual porn? That's already censored. There's an age requirement(both to participate in making as well as obtain the content). It's not in schools, not in broadcast or allowed at certain times of day, etc etc etc.

I would think porn, whether you want it or don't, would be more of a political issue than topical here. If we can start sharing links to porn, talking about porn, critiquing, discussing porn content creators extensively, etc, this place is going to start looking very different.

If we're shifting KIA to be about defending all porn, because muh censorship, you might want to make a sticky about it.

I mean, the sidebar does say pretty clearly:

KotakuInAction is the main hub for G*merGate on Reddit and welcomes discussion of community, industry, and media issues in gaming and broader nerd culture, including sci-fi/fantasy, comics, and animation.

I don't see porn there, funny.

Also, we're against censorship, but here we are saying people can't be against porn, or against "fan service" games in general.

I think you might want to go over this, with all of the mods, because that's a pretty large paradigm shift for this sub.

That's just me expressing an opinion. I'm not saying you can't make the sub inherently pro-porn, I'm not trying to stop you.

People can have various opinions, and if we can't tolerate some, we're no better than progressives.

It's a bit weird to see people get triggered over a couple very specific terms like "degenerate" and then also talk about how bad of allies they were(OP in this instance).

If anyone's behaving like progressives, it's OP and some others in this thread. Some people could do with a mirror.

Again, for the people in the back.

I'm not saying this because I have something against porn, or against these types of games. I don't want anything banned as long as things are otherwise legal(ban CP, for example).

There's room for everything, effectively, there is not finite space in game developement. If you like TFD, you can play TFD.

Similarly, if I don't want to, I don't have to, because there are other games out there.

Build it and they will come. Anything can find some fans.

That's not going to stop me from looking down on someone that may be a bit on the obsessive side.

Are we going to start adding to pronouns or orientations? Are we mandatorily going to have to affirm Waifusexuals or have it be requisite that we start calling all who disagree AnimePillowPhobes? Man, I can't stand those hateful divisive people!

I would just like to know the real rules here.

Edit: All questions here rhetorical, as in meant to make people think.

The sub seems to be having an identity crisis. I've explained about as much as I have patience for in several posts in this comments section and/or this comment chain. I can only lead the horse to water, I can't make it drink.

OP looks like a witch hunt, despite coy denials of being such, and is political in nature somewhat, and would seem to imply false or unsupported allegations of demands for censorship of games.....all in an overblown reaction to some youtube personalities they don't agree with.

To me, this sounds like it breaks several sub rules. But it's okay, because apparently a mod agrees.

Whatever. Wouldn't be the first time this sub has had a self created existential crisis and seen significant upheaval, and it won't be the last.

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EFFORTPOST On religion in Civ IV

(This is a continuation of my reply to the recent thread about the Civilization series.)

It's got some issues with, for lack of a better term, historical accuracy. There's some weird dodgy stuff in the tech tree. You may try to scoff and say that it's just a game, it's not meant to be accurate. Yeah, of course not, to a certain point. Old Man Redactor once saw me playing Darklands and pointed out that if you just changed the data files you could use the same engine to make a game about running a laundromat. What elevates games over spreadsheets is that there's some kind of story that it's telling you where the numbers mean something. In Civ, that story is history in general, so it had darn well better at least feel like it has to do with history.

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I only realized later that actually my father is a Satanist who was trying to drive me away from good Christian games. One day on the solstice he made carry a bunch of 1-gallon milk jugs full of blood (I dunno what kind) from the garage to the trunk of his old Honda. Then he got in and it flew away into the night. That's when I put two and two together.

The way religion is handled I think is pretty butt-backwards. In the original Civ, it's all abstract. You build a temple and that's it, it's assumed that it's a temple for whatever these people believe in. It doesn't really matter what religion it is because, for the purposes of the game of Civilization, people from different religions act pretty much the same for the most part because we're all human.

The other approach you can take is what they do in Europa Universalis. (I dunno if they still have the guts to do this but they did when I played it.) Where you decide which religions are good or bad and give them bonuses and penalties. This obviously has some disadvantages. Like it's really fricking obvious what's going on when the game is made in Sweden and the good religions that get bonuses are in northern Europe. You can't get away with that if you're making a game outside of an extremely ethnocentric culture like Sweden.

:#marseytabletired2:

Swedes always score themselves as the happiest country on Earth when they make those rankings, yet all the Swedes I know complain about how their husband just drinks all day and won't do anything even though she physically beats the shit out of him. Curious.

Civ IV tried to have their cake and eat it too but you end up with nothing and you're still hungry. The religions use the superficial trappings of ones from the real world but in gameplay terms they're completely generic with nothing differentiating them except which tech activates them. If they're generic why do we need them? Why not just leave it completely abstract like in Civ I? If we're assigning them to real world religions, why don't we give them their own special bonuses like we do with different civilizations?

The approach in Civ IV is kinda stupid both in terms of gameplay and theme. You might as call the religions pokemon because you're best off just collecting them all. Each one in a city adds happiness and gives you the opportunity to build more improvements. Honey, please. This is a stupid gameplay mechanic where you're encouraged to build missionaries to convert all your cities and build the same improvement several times for each religion. I consider this to be what Soren Johnson (designer of Civ IV) himself called a "degenerate strategy" in his seminal piece "Water Finds a Crack". You're doing something that's stupid and not interesting because the game rewards you for it. There's no interesting choices going on here. The other gameplay impact religion has is that basically it makes some of the AI civilizations hate you for no reason. This was obviously intended to stop you from just turtling and being friends with everyone, but it's annoying when you're left with fewer options to pursue in diplomacy.

In terms of history, this is all really stupid. Religious diversity works in America because the Founding Fathers designed our nation around it. In the rest of the world in the rest of history, having many different religions in one city is not a recipe for everyone to love each other. Let's look at the late 1500s, when religion was perhaps the most important in history that it's ever been. You had stuff like Protestant mobs surrounding the convent and yelling lewd suggestions of what the nuns should do. Today in Beirut they've got 15 religious sects and it's not giving them +15 happiness points. It's giving them continuous simmering animosity. Damascus, Aleppo, Baghdad, great cities that have "stood the test of time" like the ones represented in Civilization are not finding that diversity is their strength. By ignoring these real issues, I feel that Civ IV is demeaning both to America, where we actually solved them to some extent, and to the poor bastards living in those shithole countries where they have to deal with sectarian bullshit on a daily basis.

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In 1976 the Lebanese decided that their happiness bonus from being multicultural society was so great that they asked the Syrian Army to come and violently put down sectarian violence experience it for themselves.

Also, what do you do with the Jews and Hindus? If you're putting real world religions into the game they're incredibly important so you have to include them, but they're not like the other ones featured in the game. They're not sending missionaries around trying to convert people. So what do you do? Write special rules for them? Who's gonna do that? You'd need to hire some guy from Hebrew University who also loves 4X to do any justice to it.

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Now this is a nice campus.

The way that religion affects diplomacy in the game is stupid in the other direction. Countries won't make alliances with the "infidels"? How fricking naive do you have to be? Are like 4 fricking years old? Let's look at the late 1500s again. I don't have the book at hand at the moment, so this is from memory, but there was an alliance against the Hapsburgs that was something like this: Sweden, Denmark, England, the Netherlands, France, Portugal, Morocco, Algeria, various parts of Italy, and the Ottomans. They'd have added the Moros in the Philippines if they had better communications technology. In Lebanon they've gone through every possible combination of different sects allying with each since 1975. Most hilariously the Druze who have been both allied with and fought everyone else at least once since then. The elites running the country or the faction usually don't give a shit about sectarian hatred except as a tool they can use to manipulate the plebs.

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Sana'a Mehaidli. Carried out a suicide bombing against the Israeli occupation force in 1985. I guess nobody ever told her that as a Christian she wasn't supposed to be on the same side as Muslims. :marseyshrug:

Which takes me back to my original point about how Sid Meier did it with generic temples. It's not because he's some atheist who hates religion. (He's actually a Christian of the actually going to church kind btw.) It's because trying to fit too much low-level detail about religion into a 4X game is really tricky and probably won't work in terms of gameplay or theme. I've always had a strong impression that this feature was basically put in because there was a feeling among (mostly atheist) 4X fans that religion was a big thing in history so we need a gameplay mechanic for it. And my feminine masculine intuition is rarely wrong.

After all this time I spent writing this I really feel like... starting up a new game of Civ IV. It's a great game. :marseythumbsup:

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"All the trillion dollar corporation CEOs are donating money and having one-to-one dinners with him. Hello oligarchy." - /u/erotic_sex_worker

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So just like it's always been: Biden inaugural committee raised $62M with big sums from billionaires, corporations

I love that it's only news now because Trump does it.

It's (D)ifferent ya know

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God America is corporate wasteland now. They don't even hide buying politicians anymore. But don't worry rich orange Jesus is here to save us, he totally knows the struggles of the working man.

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1huzpf3/tim_cook_is_latest_tech_exec_to_kiss_the_ring/m5p5mla/?context=8

This is what 78 million Americans voted for.

They wanted corporate welfare, billionaire immunity, and pay for play.

Oh, you thought you'd get cheaper groceries and a one time $600 dollar check? Fricking dolts.

"I don't want consumer protection, workers rights or more financial freedom like never having to worry about healthcare costs again! I want to stop woke and trans and poor people from having freedom."

terrorists don't attack us anymore because they cant achieve our level of destruction with ignorance voting. - /u/herefromyoutube

:#marseysurejan: I'm certain they wanted more corporate welfare and to not own the libs lmao

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Look, I didn't like Trump and never voted for him. I thought Biden was honestly doing a pretty okay job. But as a lifelong Apple fan, if Tim's on board, then I'm willing to give him a chance. - /u/Ok-Echo-7764 [-50] :marseyxd: :marseykingcrown: :chadstevejobs:

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1huzpf3/tim_cook_is_latest_tech_exec_to_kiss_the_ring/m5pkt84/?context=8

It's even worse when you consider the fact that he's a gay man supporting this admin. Sad.

These people really think the GQP is really going to take away gay rights lmao - /u/OmniAtom91

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Honestly I don't blame Cook that much for this. With Trump as president, you have to pay to play. Trump would be petty enough to do something to ruin Apple stock if Cook didn't pay.

Didn't hate the player, hate the game. - /u/d-cent [-8]

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