Christian Ziegler is accused of recording a s*x act without consent, police said in a statement on Thursday.

A woman with whom he and his wife had a prior consensual sexual relationship previously alleged that he r*ped her.

According to heavily redacted police documents, Mr Ziegler, his wife, Bridget Ziegler and the unnamed woman had planned a threesome in October, but Mrs Ziegler was unable to attend.

Mr Ziegler instead arrived alone, the complaint alleged, and assaulted the woman.

But police in Sarasota say they reviewed hours of video evidence and conducted nearly a dozen interviews and determined that it was unlikely that any sexual battery took place during the 4 October encounter.

"Ziegler recorded the encounter on his cell phone," Sarasota Police Department said in the Thursday statement.

"The video showed that the encounter was likely consensual. Therefore, detectives were unable to develop probable cause to charge Ziegler with Sexual Battery."

Better to be charged with voyeurism than r*pe, am I right?

For me it's when she:

1. Can't do math

2. Likes music a bit too much

3. Eats more than 1000 calories in a meal

4. Is sick/injured

5. Expresses strong political opinions

What about you guys?

Apparently she thought he was great but then found out he lied about having a dog, it was really his roommate's. Now she's into the roommate.

The thread is all "yeah girl that's a red flag" but was she planning on dating the dude or his dog?

Guy in the gym presses me for wearing painted paints… 🤬 pic.twitter.com/3w85pCEEfv

— natalie reynolds (@onlynatreynolds) December 27, 2023

Only comments I've seen defending her have their onlyfans linked in their bio.

https://twitter.com/onlynatreynolds/status/1740078246203453481

A nice attempt at a defense but he's clearly wearing pants. After that, she goes for a Hail Mary which unfortunately doesn't quite make it.

https://twitter.com/onlynatreynolds/status/1740361987165696173

Refusing to take the L, she pivots.

https://twitter.com/onlynatreynolds/status/1740362872599822813

Shabani is the Gorilla

He is 18 years old when the article was written.

He has his own wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabani_(gorilla)

White girl in the 1960's: ...but dad I love him.

White old man : Loving a N-? What next? You going to tell me you want to have carnal relations with gorillas and chimpanzees too?

Black boy from the 1960's: It's okay. Sir I am going to prove myself to you. You may not love me, and we may never see eye to eye. But as a man I must still let you know I will always take care of your girl. Let's go bb.

60 years later Gorilla's are still not the same as black people obviously, but who is going to get that through the heads of white women?

The slippery slope is always real when white people are involved.

The thing is, realistically, most women want variations of the same thing. We want a guy with a job, whose nice, and decent looking (some wiggle room here as we all find different things attractive) and who we also have feelings for and things in common with. Someone we enjoy spending time around. Kind of like a friend we also want to have s*x with. It's my opinion it shouldn't be that hard to find this. It's not asking for too much. If you're a semi functioning adult you will check most of these boxes.

Yet, most men don't want serious relationships that is why the dating scene is fricked up.

Finally reveals her lived truth and that's that men dont want to commit(to her). Which is odd...until you look into her post history and you discover that she trully cannot even...drive a car properly

https://old.reddit.com/r/driving/comments/17nm1ch/failed_road_test_immediately_because_of_incorrect?sort=controversial

Can't take advice on how to drive

https://old.reddit.com/r/driving/comments/16jrfmd/annoyed_with_how_much_im_getting_corrected_when?sort=controversial

Posts a bunch in /r/datingover30

Of course she's a teacher who unaabashedly lies to her students(about being single)

https://old.reddit.com/r/SingleAndHappy/comments/18fzpdg/i_lied_and_told_my_students_i_had_a_boyfriend?sort=controversial

This is what she brings to the table, and wonders why the average man wont commit.

No shade to op, grip seems nice, but an NB-inclusive service called Women+ really does say it all https://t.co/91Wkji5gXP

— Ela Bambust, 🏳️‍⚧️ professional author (@Elamimaxima) December 1, 2023

Many the fact that this is basically just a "no males allowed" sign and how the vast majority of "enbies" are women.

The next con is not ready for me. pic.twitter.com/QHwdLrbpmZ

— Mickey⊹ ‧₊˚ ౨ৎ (@mickeykkuma) November 27, 2023

!foidmoment

Lots of women here. What's the list for most beloved characters? Bet it's mostly men there.

Here you go

Holy shit lol. Like I know men hate women but sometimes it just really smacks you in the face

tom and jerry included on the list and not a single woman really makes it for me

>tom and jerry included on the list and not a single woman

correct

walter is so much worse than skylar though

It's exactly what I was thinking. Guys on the top of the most hated characters are sadistic murderers. The first woman, oh, she cheated. Her husband, the dude who did a 180 personality turn and turned into a drug dealer endangering the lives of his family? Top most adored character. Makes sense.

>the dude who did a 180 personality turn

This list makes me wanna throw up lmao

it's not most beloved, it's greatest and most memorable. guarantee Daenerys would be here if not for the ending. i can't think of any other popular woman in TV..?

>daenerys

We need to make our own list, since this sub is mostly women I think it would be much better.

My personal list of greatest tv characters, since the other one was lacking:

1.Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

2.Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

3.Peggy Olson (Mad Men)

4.Marge Simpson (The Simpsons)

5.Roz Doyle (Frasier)

6.Michonne (The Walking Dead)

7.Leslie Knope (Parks and Recreation)

8.Dana Scully (The X Files)

9.Miranda Bailey (Grey's Anatomy)

10.Samantha Jones (S*x and the City)

this is bait, right?

Why Emily? 🤣

She's a woman.

Friends has a mostly female fan base so woman hating on woman sound right to me.

no one hates women more than other women

I watched Breaking Bad for the first time this year (I know) and from what I heard I was expecting Skylar to be this horrible demon lady. No, she's just a woman who is justifiably angry that her husband and father to her kids has turned methy. Wtf that is a totally valid thing to not be fine with!?

Skyler is my litmus test

I said the same thing upthread lol. It should absolutely be a first date question. If a man thinks she's the villain, don't frickt that man.

yes, using a cheater as your litmus test is a great idea

I wonder if the high testosterone thing is also a way to encourage transphobia

Probably, though trans women generally have much lower testosterone than cis women, not higher.

Yeah but TERFs and GCs never cared about actual biology

Absolutely yes. If the current trans panic wasn't a thing, no one would care about testosterone levels

I find it kinda disappointing that people aren't seeing the race component here. To describe this as being “to protect men's feelings” when it seems like way more of a targeted campaign of misogynoir is really odd honestly.

They are proving it was never about physicality, just protecting the feelings of men.

Reminder that that was literally why women's leagues were first started. It's not like there's any difference between men and women in their skill in chess after all, but there's still a women's chess league (which has banned trans women from competing for bullshit reasons.)

I'm....not sure that's what the article is saying...

Every women's league was created for one of two reasons. Either a woman won and that pissed men off, or women were blocked from competing (either officially or through sexism) and made their own. Why would men care if women kept losing.

Works Cited:

I don't understand what you mean? They weren't allowed to compete in the women's division but they could compete against men. Mboma's personal best in the 100m would have tied for 8th in the Texas 6A High school boy's 100m.

We should absolutely talk about these issues and ensure transphobia isn't being perpetuated. But imo, unless I'm missing something it's not men's feelings being protected here. (-39)

Banning a woman from women's sports for the crime of being able to compete with men is very much about protecting men's feelings.

My theory is that this is a patriarchal Roger Bannister/rope around an elephant's leg...So now, over and over, we are told women can't compete with men, that doing so means men would always dominate in any sport they compete in and this difference is why we have women's sports in the first place... believe a lot of this push is just to reinforce that women are weaker than men...

The issue is that these three women are technically intersex, which is why the rules about elevated testosterone levels apply....

Are you legit comparing a genetic freak and an intersex person. That's some terf BS if I ever heard it. Intersex people are rare and it's to do with their genetics, but calling them genetic freaks and excluding from sports is beyond sexist to me.

Frick y'all I need to find a feminist subreddit that doesn't let in terfs

!foidmoment

i have bad news for the people mad that i’m grieving while hot pic.twitter.com/lDWAmGudpI

— CLAUDIA (@CLAUDIAPOSTING) November 20, 2023

!foidmoment

I assume she just unlocked her twitter recently since she was never tagged during the initial drama. Rightoids are having a field day in the quote tweets

Anyone that describes themselves as "hot" is absolutely not attractive

This is a terrible thing to write. I am 27/F. I'm a wife and mother. In my teens/early 20s I was very much a ‘pick me' girl. Like a Pearl Davis type. I cooled that down a lot over the years but I've gone to the opposite extreme. Rationally, I know this is unfair and unhealthy. Most men aren't bad. But a little voice tells me that even the ‘good ones' have some ingrained misogyny even if it's on the milder end.

I love my husband very much, he did something to hurt me very badly in the early days of our relationship. I feel this was the start of it. It wasn't cheating or anything like that. I don't wish to rehash it too much but it was related to s*x. We worked through it, went to therapy, and we're now just like any other couple. We have one daughter and we're very happy together and with our life.

It's been years since this happened, but gradually I've found myself growing a stronger dislike for men. It's not because of what my husband did but I think it triggered it. I started noticing casual misogyny in everyday life more and more to the point where it's made me angry that men…exist? I get so sad thinking that my baby girl will one day be hurt by a man, not maybe, but likely.

If anyone is wondering, I actually have a great relationship with my dad, we are very close. I'm also in therapy for unrelated reasons but this has come up a couple of times. I want to get over this disgusting hatred and have a healthier outlook. Is this worth discussing with my therapist? I would appreciate literally any insight at this point.

Over the past 24 hours, thousands of TikToks (at least) have been posted where people share how they just read Bin Laden’s infamous "Letter to America," in which he explained why he attacked the United States.

The TikToks are from people of all ages, races, ethnicities, and… pic.twitter.com/EwjiGtFEE3

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 16, 2023

!foidmoment

"I just don't think she has the right to prevent me from dating her friend."

Sure, you can date him all you want if he wants to date you too. But it wouldn't be unreasonable for her to warn her friend that you cheated on her brother in the past. Four years is not that long ago. If you've changed then good for you, but you can't expect everyone to just forget about it.

I don't know, I feel it would be unreasonable. I was in my early 20s at the time, I think as a society we need to give people the room to grow. We shouldn't constantly throw mistakes of their past in their face

raise the age of consent to 25 NOW

You.... cant be serious. You know what, I'll be nice. Look OP, you had a full blown relationship with your ex best friend's brother. You cheated. You hurt him. I'm sure Amina had to help pick up the pieces of her brother you destroyed. Yes, you may have changed. However, Amina doesn't want to risk the possibility of you hurting someone again who is dear and close to her. Not only that, but she's not your matchmaker. I'm sure she also wants to respect her brother bc who knows if Ron is friend's with him too. If you say you changed then prove it by your actions by staying away from Ron. Possibly from Amina too. If you chase Ron then it's just going to further prove to them that your selfishness is still there.

I'll probably stay away from Ron because I didn't consider she would probably tell him. It's just hurtful someone I call a friend doesn't trust that I've grown as a person

this has to be bait

Dating history:
-surgeon
-doctor
-politician
-finance
-finance
-finance
-6'4
-engineer
-business founder
-finance
-doctor
-engineer/company founder
-artist
-CEO
-surgeon
-(not sure, never said. 6'4)
-finance
-corporate lawyer
-doctor
-business founder
-politician
-model
-finance… https://t.co/eEZEEtyB5p

— SELENA (off meds) (@milky_selena) October 31, 2023

there is another rdrama post about her for another tweet:

https://rdrama.net/post/214663/whore-gigacopes-about-her-job-pretends

i think this may be bait

(not sure, never said. 6'4)

No architects?! 📐

there are actually but i didn't add them, they were ages ago but this list is just recent

None of them married you?

nope, men mature slower - most said they weren't ready for that kind of commitment

The vile misogyny and whorephobia that's been piled onto our statement has been absolutely vile, and it's really sad seeing how few comrades have supported it and us https://t.co/juiPL4zKJ5

— Amélie 🇵🇸 (@afrenchstripper) October 28, 2023