- HailVictory1776 : Mr BASED
Revolutionary Jinx-Krะฐyonist 
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Source:
wake up babe the funniest shit ever is happening pic.twitter.com/BLTVvzGe1n
โ Experiment 626 : โStitchโ (@s626ch) October 16, 2024
- ahorseshoecrab : Blacked Lives Matter
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Some giga- 
suicidologist (who absolutely should 
before his epic baconsauce twitter clapbacks and blocks collide with a depressed person's cognitive distortions) sperged out at Ben Ryan over trainlets (of course). Tyler thinks kids should get a weed-whacker to the crotch if they want, parental consent is unnecessary, and side effects/complications of transition are no big deal, etc. whereas Ben has a conscience. But anyway, enough about 
s for a moment. Look at this fricking prick:
Doesn't this seem a little reckless for a suicide specialist? Like, can he not 
for five seconds and think how A) a suicidal person might come across his twitter feed and 2) how that's the kind of thing they might internalize and blow out of proportion? Is Tyler's interest in suicide is in getting those rookie numbers up 
or does he need to Do get cyberbullied? 
Better 
Also I mainly wanted to make sure that banger of a 
typo from Ben got posted.
but if Tyler gets an e-swirlie that's some bonus 
.
Check out this projection. It's magnificent, the subtle off-white coloring, the thickness, etc:
Couple of links of Ben 
ing on this chomo-looking "expert":
Let's recall that professional opinion stands at the bottom of the pyramid of scientific evidence. Dr. @TylerBlack32 relies on this to inform his opinion that children can make up their own minds though an informed consent model, absent parental oversight, about whether to takeโฆ pic.twitter.com/1MJmqkyy15
โ Benjamin Ryan (@benryanwriter) October 17, 2024
Dr. @TylerBlack32 makes clear that he is a mature-minor absolutist. It doesn't matter what the condition is, how serious the side effects, how uncertain the science, minors (he doesn't specify an age cut-off, so technically he's referring to anyone under age 18) can consent. pic.twitter.com/gcozzqcy8k
โ Benjamin Ryan (@benryanwriter) October 17, 2024
loses wh*te
supremacist vote as Fmr KKK leader David Duke
endorses Jill Stien
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"Elon Musk is hopping about the country, spewing and tweeting political falsehoods and attacking FEMA while claiming his desire to help the hurricane victims with free Starlink access to the internet," she said before the vote on Thursday.
"It appears that rather than prioritizing the welfare of SpaceX employees and the environment, the focus has been on profit maximization," she added.
causes your state to get sued.
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- Impassionata : based
- Lv90_Slime : I have also been banned from rdrama.net (wake me up inside (can't wake up))
- Impassionata3 : lmao lvl90_slime level up for that one ahahaha
- ZombifyingChill : slime has been lvl 90 for like 2 weeks r-slur
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Rest in power, you spastic neurodivergent. The brightest stars burn the fastest.
You seemed like a nice guy, relative to being a convicted terrorist on a gay trolling website.
Shame you couldn't contain the spastic fits of r-sluration though.
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Bill Maher asks the panel (And worst rotation in human history) David Hogg Mark Cuban and Joe Scarborough why Trump is winning the male vote:
— Eric Abbenante (@EricAbbenante) October 19, 2024
It's a shame Bill had no one with masculinity to answer the question.
Democrats are destroying the economy, nagging/policing their everyโฆ pic.twitter.com/hxs5swsya9
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Madeline Pendleton is a political tiktokker with 1.8M followers. The majority of her content is just her opining on current events, and discussing being a millennial business owner. She is a staunch socialist and runs a socialist clothing company that makes clothes that I think are kind of ugly but in general I think anyone regardless of political beliefs can agree that she highly intelligent and is an all around successful person.
Earlier this week Madeline went viral for her video where she disclosed that a campaign company for the dems offered her around 15k to make content promoting Kamala Harris. This was a bad move on their part because Madeline is an actual socialist and thinks the dems are literally rightoids. Madeline also posted the brief on her twitter and noted that she saw other content creators making videos that were definitely from that brief and were not disclosing that it was a paid video. It should be noted that the republicans do this too, which is how we end up with r-slurred shit like this. But that's for a different post.
ANYHOO
So all the democrats are mad and some of them told her that they were mad she wasn't voting for Kamala, and her response was basically that democrats are pro-genocide and I guess the person she was talking to was black SO GUESS WHAT HAPPENED.
Madeline is now racist because she's white and she told democrats who think they're super progressive that they're basically nazi's in her mind. She also had a video where she said Angela Davis was a rightoid now (because she actually is lol) and that just made everyone even more mad. I think the slight they are accusing her of being racist for is because she told POC that they aren't progressive enough or something but that's a super reach and even Madeline has made a video asking people to tell her what she did that was racist and no one has really been able to say anything other than "you should knowwww."
BUT you know this works so everyone is saying she's super racist across the entire app
There's too many links to put here so here's just a search for tiktok
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In case you want to see perhaps the most brutal part of the interview - here it is.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) October 16, 2024
BAIER: Why are Americans saying this country is on the wrong track? You've been in office for 3.5 years.
HARRIS: And, Donald Trump has been running for office... you and I both know what I amโฆ pic.twitter.com/e5iF7jxnkC
- HailVictory1776 : Misinformation / p-do defense (op possibly p-do)
- Healthy : Leak already confirmed, leftist coping inside: https://realrawnews.com/2024/08/jag-indicts-tim-walz/
P-do 
allegations 
are some of the most amateurish 
"leaks" 
I've ever seen 
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The DocNetyoutube guy started "leaking" proof of his Tim Walz p-do allegations today, and they're quite possibly some of the most amateurish leaks I've ever seen.
Current DocNetyoutube Twitter post count: 13
Word Doc Typed Emails
First, every single "received email" that he's posted has been typed in a word doc. The most amateurish part about this is that he literally pastes his word doc typed "emails" next to actual ProtonMail screenshots lol
Posts with side-by-side comparisons: 1, 2
For reference, this is what a received email looks like in both ProtonMail, Gmail, & Yahoo
Probably funniest of all, is the fact that he forgot to remove his text cursor before posting his third image. His claim is that the cursor was there as an artifact from him redacting the image, using his fourth post as an example. Not convincing as an explanation for the third image.
Email sent to VP Harris
Another major claim of his is that he contacted Vice President Harris on 2024-08-10 with the allegations that Tim Walz took a student to an Indigo Girls concert and sexually assaulted them. His fifth post is his evidence for the fact that he contacted Vice President Harris about the Glen & Tim Walz Indigo Girls story before the story dropped.
There is no timestamp or proof in the video that the contact message was sent on 2024-08-10. The timestamp in the video he posted is self-typed. There is no other timestamp in the video. He uses this as evidence that the story was released to get ahead of the allegations (sixth post). The claim in and of itself is weak ("Glen & Tim Walz took a student to an Indigo Girls concert, therefore Tim Walz is a p-dophile."). Disregarding the weak logic, there is still no evidence that he contacted VP Harris on 2024-08-10 like his video claims.
Twitter Post Links
Post 1, img - side by side comparison of a real ProtonMail screenshot and his fake word doc typed fanfic
Post 4, img - another side by side comparison of a real ProtonMail screenshot and his fake word doc typed p-do fanfic
Post 5, img, video - his "evidence" of contacting VP Harris before the Indigo Girls story came out (the evidence is a self-typed timestamp)
Post 6, img - claiming that the previous Post 5 is the reason the Indigo Girls story came out, as a way for the campaign to get ahead of the allegations
Post 7, img - if i were the FBI, i'd be investigating DocNetyoutube's computer lmao (most definitely not in the US though). this fanfic is genuinely disgusting. again, no proof in this post other than something that DocNetyoutube himself typed up
Post 8, img, video - claiming he reached out to VP Harris on 2024-08-23. Similar to Post 5, the only timestamp in his video is self-typed.
Post 9. img, video - another video with only a self-typed timestamp. what a waste
Post 10, img - pointless post. this is a "evidence coming in next post" post. This is referencing the fact that Tim Walz resigned from his coaching responsibilities at Alliance High School after getting a DUI. There's court transcripts proving his reason for resigning being related to the DUI (related section).
Post 11, img - a post with a screenshot of the resignation of three people (Glen & Tim Walz and some other random person), not sure why this is relevant
Post 12, img - a screenshot of an Alliance High School Board of Education document approving the professional leave request of Tim Walz, with an unsubstantiated story as caption
Post 13, img, video - another video with a self-typed timestamp
DocNetyoutube Excuses
A compilation of excuses that he's made for why his evidence looks idiotic and fake.
"The text cursor was from redacting the image!" 1 - weak claim. does not explain this image. Cursors also don't match
"The received emails don't look real because it's Yahoo mail!" 1, 2 - idiotic claim. this is what a Yahoo received mail looks like (ignoring the fact that it makes no sense for why the UI should change for any of his screenshots). The dates also have typing inconsistencies which is fricking hilarious.
The actual context behind the Indigo Concert and the groomer allegations makes this DocNetYoutube guy even more deranged.
The entire thing boils down to two happenings:
1. There was one kid that got bullied in school for being gay, so he confided in ms. Walz and she helped him out. The kid eventually got enough courage to come out to his parents and the school, after which the bullying stopped.
2. There was then another kid that trusted ms and mr Walz for the exact same reason. They took him to the Indigo Concert which is apparently pro LGBT and where the kid could connect with peers who are more like him.
This just makes Walz even more likable.
Link to the article.
going to keep updating as more of these amateurish "leaks" come out.
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Top Drama
Relative Drama (takes into account the size of the subreddit)
| Score | Post | Subreddit | Ratio | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐๐ | How did Trump regain the momentum in October ? | /r/Askpolitics (6K) | 51% | 594 |
| ๐ค๐ค๐๐๐ | Harris Complains She Was Not Informed The Interview Would Include Q... | /r/babylonbee (30K) | 56% | 1339 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Sinwar is DEAD | /r/UnitedNations (18K) | 48% | 285 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Ok I did one. How's my list? | /r/assasinscreed (10K) | 50% | 73 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | "I can travel anytime I want ๐คก" | /r/Natalism (10K) | 47% | 60 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | how queer is your club? what region of the country/world are you in? | /r/Hema (20K) | 50% | 122 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Don't worry guys, you are special | /r/GenZ (361K) | 63% | 2940 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Sometimes the AI (even on Normal) feels a bit too unfair; I've had ... | /r/alienisolation (35K) | 52% | 192 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Rant from an old fan. | /r/DragonageOrigins (22K) | 52% | 115 |
| ๐ค๐๐๐๐ | Gov Pogi ng Cavite | /r/cavite (19K) | 49% | 86 |
autodrama: returning jobs to dramneurodivergents. 
Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion 
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I'm not gonna say these women are hideous, because they aren't. But there's something 
about this fashion show compared to previous ones. Both in terms of how the models look, and their show outfits.
For comparison, here are previous VS Fashion Show models and outfits:
Very beautiful women, literal super models, and really cool outfits! 
Here's tonight's VS Fashion Show models and outfits:
I don't find her super model pretty, sorry. And her outfit is boring.
WTF is this? 
UGHLY
JESUS CHRIST 
Frick inclusion, this shouldn't be allowed. I'm not hating on the model, it just doesn't make sense to have a fashion show meant for the top 1% of women and then include an obese woman. Her outfit also sucks.
No comment...
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Wake up babe 
, new round up of 4 crappy posts from /r/antinatalism
Only the rich should have children
Yep, OP clearly doesn't understand what goes on in anybody else's lives -- seems like that narcissism was an inherited trait.
dude obviously but still this is a free country but i can rant about it if i want to.
At least you acknowledge the privileges you have.
btw i said that sarcastically. for someone who claims im out of touch, youre acting like some rice picker in asia doesnt have the common sense to kill themselves or run away or speak their mind. rules on a paper mean nothing lmao. humans can do whatever they want in reality its just up to them to comply or not. most people comply out of fear of death, no food whatever else.
No we can't. Get that dogshit out of your head; the rules of life and starvation prove that "he who does not work, does not eat". You're crying your eyes out while pretty much every person who has ever lived before the modern era has had it FAR worse than you. You literally have an internet connection, while people even a hundred years ago had to fear preventable diseases!!
The rice picker in Asia actually appreciates his life -- he may hate it, but he knows that living is better than nonexistence, and that living is better than the suffering or nonexistence of his family. Having suffered doesn't give you the right to disparage the gift that you have been given, because others who have it far worse are doing more than wallowing in misery.
Your EXISTENCE proves you value your life more than anything else. You're a hypocrite at this point, because you do have a choice. You just don't want to make that choice, because you know it's the wrong one.
So since you value your life so much, stop trying to claim it's meaningless. You've made your choice: go and talk to a therapist, seeing as you have so much time to waste on the internet. Make something out of your life, instead of screaming into the void all day.
nice bait troll
This post is poorly written and demonstrates a total lack of knowledge. Honestly sounds like it was written by a nine year old. For one, many people in poverty have low access to birth control and s*x ed. For two, being impoverished doesn't by default make you a bad parent. And for three, the tone of OP's sententious rant is wholly denigrating and disdainful towards "low class" "peasants". Their words, not mine.
Yeah, OP seems like a spoiled kid screaming "I hate my dad!!!".
the tone of OP's sententious rant is wholly denigrating and disdainful towards "low class" "peasants"
That was also my first thought: "low class" is instantly a dead giveaway, as that sounds more like what like an aristocrat would say rather than a normal human being, who'd say "lower class".
Probably OP inherited that narcissism from their mother: this entire rant seems like it's saying "I'm SO much BETTER and SMARTER than all those low-class PEASANTS!!!! Why don't they UNDERSTAND!!!!"
[too long
go read it on Reddit]
The people who are arguing with you have zero reading comprehension. They either misunderstood you, or are pretending to have misunderstood you. I fully agree with you.
It's sad and mean
It's reality . I don't want to be political but it's like our current government is trying to replace Americans with these people. Wipe out middle class, make Americans poor, replace with migrants. Migrants will eventually have children, less educated and easily manipulated and controlled. Definitely sad. I hope Americans waking up to this fact before it's too late and we turn into one of those Latin American countries
Too late for not wanting to be political when you focused on a specific group like Central/South Americans, I assume SOME are good people. I understand where you're coming from, another culture (religious specifically) not adopting the secular democratic enlightenment values at the minimum, if at all. Religious people will always procreate and would just replace all the non-religious people if antinatalism became widespread.
Bro went so far left that he ended up on the far right. Even ultra-Trumpers would tell you to tone it down on the xenophobia; a Neo-Nazi would tell you: "so true bestie!! Join my Great Replacement fan club!"
Of course, there is merit to what you're saying -- importing illegal immigrants to use as cheap labor and votes, at the cost of Americans, is what is really going on.
In fact, if we were in another sub I might even agree with you (this argument is in fact one of Trump's main selling points). But since this is the anti-natalism subreddit, it feels like you're coming at this from a "having children is selfish!" and then turned that into "I hate IMMIGRANTS" perspective, which is totally unjustified and racist, not to mention indicative of extreme privilege in your life that lets you lord above all others. [snip]
What the frick? This is disgustingly racist; if you showed an even a hardcore Trumper this they would look at you like you're insane. You make them sound like some sort of animals, and it's incredible that you're so spoiled, arrogant, and hateful you see fit to belittle others like that.
This comment feels like a narcissistic person who's resentful that their status doesn't match their perceived greatness, and takes out that hate on minorities.
Next post.
What a great life our parents have left for us. We get to serve billionaires for 8 hours a day, for a paycheck that is gone before the weekend. We get to spend our whole lives trying to keep our bodies alive, only to be met with an inevitable death regardless.
Go to work, wolf down microwaved slop at lunch, sit in traffic, come home too tired to do anything, lay out on the couch, go to bed to sleep, wake up the next morning and do it all over again. Sift through student loan bills and medical bills. Watch bank account dwindle from rent, groceries, gas. Panic until meager employment wages slightly recover account.
This is what our parents gave us?
An existence where we are pointlessly we fighting to keep ourselves alive, only to die in the end anyway?
Why don't you bring a child into the world so they can also suffer the same fate! - Breeders.
The Duggars are a prime example. ๐คข
Just looked them up, how disgusting
p-do protectors too
Don't forget also ince$t
Also the Duggar children have gone on to have children too. It's so sick!
I'm sorry this happened to you! Thank you for sharing โค๏ธโ๐ฉน More people need to know that parents usually want children for selfish reasons -- and this is just one extreme form of this, if not as uncommon as most people think. I'm deeply suspicious of all parents. When my friends have kids I always think: oh no, I know you, you definitely shouldn't have. I feel the only really good thing I've done in life is not have kids. So, thanks for not sugar coating it like people usually do. From shitty childhood to shitty parenthood is the norm.
I completely agree. I know not to have kids because the damage done from my parents will take a lifetime to heal and I'm not doing that lol. Also money, energy, and people are destructive to the earth. People need to be realistic and stop trying to heal their child wounds by having children lol
When / how does this midlife crisis end? Do we know?
You make it end man. It's not over yet. Have faith in yourself and set a goal to work towards to escape the monotony in the 9-5. Get outside, move more and connect with nature. It helps more than you'd think. Clear some of the brain fog and wake up to realize you have the power to make the life you want.
He must be a double agent. Grassmaxxing 
would probs deradicalise some of these freaks.
The communists tried to save us but Americans would have none of it.
Do you not get the entire point of this sub? You say "fall in love. Have kids" heck no. That's the worst idea. That'd make my life so much worse. I wish I never born, why would I put another human being through that and introduce them to this world? Absolutely not
Then be sad and die alone man. Hope u find some joy somewhere
Why would I create children and make them work their lives away. That doesn't make any sense
Don't then I guess๐ be sad and blame the system that YOU buy into and stay miserable. Things are not THAT bad. You have the power to create positive change in your own life always remember that. You're posting about how bad life and nobody should be having kids and crying wah wah wah as you're posting from a smartphone or computer๐ญ the irony is funny
YOU buy into and stay miserable.
Your parents forced you into. There fixed it for you.
Then y tf does society pressure people to have kids and get married when the ones who do end up miserable?
Many people I know do end up that way
And if they hadn't gotten married and had kids, their lives would be bubblegum and roses?
Yes pretty much ๐๐คฃ almost and BTW y tf do they want to be miserable by dealing with shit that could have been avoided in the 1st place?
Read some history and you realized there are worse lives. Not even history, try being poor.
Okay so is your point that your kids and you also have a chance at a worse life? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
Yes. It's one of the "good" outcomes. Albeit is not the utopian ideal we hoped for. What Op is describing is the "easier" difficulties. I think more of the horrors people endured and will endured. The mass genocides, r*pes, tortures and other horrors that keep me awake. From the r*pe of nanking, armenian genocide, holocaust or the human trafficking that happens to this day. Those are the type of suffering I would like to prevent on happening.
good suffering on both sides
There is always suffering. It goes hand in hand with being alive. The moment you are born, you will suffer. That is certain.
next life will be better.
but discreet.
Telling ANs to krill themselves is against the sub's rules 
Saying you should be grateful that your life isn't even worse tells you everything you need to know about this world. It's a shitty world with various levels of shit. It's not a good place. Definitely not worth throwing more lives into.
Literally how I feel about that. Hearing things like "tHeReS sTaRvInG kIdS iN aFrIcA" makes me feel worse about the world, not better about my situation.
Choosing to only see the bad in any situation is what leads to these miserable gatherings of people.
The fact that bad exists is the problemโฆespecially when we didn't sign up for any of this
In a world with nothing bad at all, I'd be willing to bet that most of the people here would still be miserable. Change your outlook, change your life. Some Stoic philosophy would do ya'll some good.
What would stoic philosophy do for me?
It's just an expanded "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" quote
It absolutely is not.
Next post.
One thing anti-natalists fail to realize.
One thing anti natalists fail to realise.
The simple fact that most people do NOT think. People are run on emotions.
You can provide thousands good arguments in favor of anti natalism but it will be futile because that requires rational thought. People who only care about physical pleasures and sensations they don't give a single frick about how much indirect suffering they are causing.
And I see this with vegans too they also over estimate how much people think. They don't. If a woman has 10 kids while living in poverty she doesn't care cus she isn't living her life by rational thinking. She is having kids because she likes s*x. Or she likes kids. That's all.
People are fricking dumb they don't think. Don't expect them to reason and think this much complex.
I'm not an anti natalist myself but I agree with the philosophy. I really think we all should be having less kids and if you do have kids, it should be very thoughtout and planned.
Emotions do matter, but look around and look at what we're doing to the planet. Don't just have greed run your life, "I want a little toy human to play with"
If project 2025 comes to pass, and even if it doesn't Medicare Medicaid social security will all decline. And if severely handicapped babies can't be aborted, who is going to pay for their care? One parent will probably have to quit work, and even others will need to be hired if the handicapped infant needs around the clock care.
A good emotion is empathy, empathy for humans, empathy for other animals, empathy for the world.
When we say yes to one thing, we're saying no to other things.
that kind of black and white thinking doesn't appear to be rational to me, but I'm not convinced any person is actually capable of achieving rationality
It is possible to be right and emotionally edified by being so. Sure. But our arguments are not based around such ego gratification. The merit of the argument has to come first and it is by that reason that we make that claim. But that claim is also bound up in our emotional position as well that we do not prefer to create more suffering because we understand emotionally that suffering is not something we wish to either be on the receiving end of and so our empathy suggests it would not be any more correct to put others in the position of having to suffer through no fault of their own. Especially when the scale of that suffering created by reproduction is not sufficiently justified by any attempt at rationalization for it.
"Thier emotional arguments are dumb and vapid, while my emotions are pure and just. Therefore I am right and they are wrong."
This is circular thinking and proves nothing. You can't claim other people's arguments are bad based on emotion alone.
does not make birth right?
so everybody, everybody should stop having children?
Welcome to antinatalism.
no thanks :)
I'm just trying to find reasoning in this line of logic.
suffering is bad... so we should stop existing?
Suffering is bad, and suffering is inherent to life. Therefore, in order to prevent suffering, the creation of new life should be avoided
there are other ways to minimize suffering. not existing at all is just one way.
Minimize, yes. But eliminate? Only non-existence can accomplish that
And you know that is fine. Most people have accepted this fact. There will be some suffering .. and maturing is part of accepting that.
No, maturing is accepting that some forms of suffering are unacceptable, and certainly unacceptable to impose onto another party.
Next post.
Elon Musk Says We Should Have More Humans
Elon Musk Says We Should Have More Humans
How would you respond to Elon's claim that we should have more humans, more human brains, more human consciousness so as to increase our odds of figuring out the meaning of life? With more humans, he reckons, we have better odds of having more Einsteins, and with more Einsteins, we'll have better odds of solving the persistent problems of life that make AN a tenable philosophical position, including existential nihilism. Is his claim defensible?
EDIT: I fear that I've made a gross mistake by attaching a face to that argument. Ok I get it Elon is despicable but can you address his argument without ad hominem attacks maybe.
There's a genetic component to genius. No amount of wealth redistribution can offset that.
Prove it if that's the case;
A lot of racist bigots in the field of politics and science tried to confirm their biases by designing experiments and tests to prove that, and even passed laws presuming that their biases were true without any proper scientific backing and it backfired completely, but not without significant damage to the general populace.
And if still choose to believe this pseudoscientific propaganda then how would you even know- who's a genius and who's not without expending huge amount of resources to confirm it?
So then it's a combination of the two: breed geniuses then expend resources to confirm and train them.
People dont come out of the womb with degrees in theoretical physics.
This is piss poor trolling, mate.
I can't help but think a genius would recommend reducing the population rather than consuming the planet like locusts.
Overpopulated yes but not with enough Einsteins yet. We need more to figure out the hardest questions of life, whose answers might render AN indefensible. And maybe the only way to get more is to roll the dice by making more humans. Throwing enough mud at the wall and seeing which one sticks, as it were.
Try to get out of the basement once in a while.
KAMALASISTERS IN 
Fox News' Brett 
: TikTokCringe
- DickButtKissAlt : is this the Joe Rogan show? Who gives a frick about all this animal bullshit?
- of_blood_and_salt : boring thread, boring user
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You probably saw this thread. You may have even participated in it. Or you may have scrolled past it, thinking it was nothing out of the ordinary but another stupid carp post. And you'd be right. But this one has badges associated with it (if Aevann approves 
) and also charts that will be published in the following paper. I have deleted the thread itself to avoid vote manipulation (pending badges), but if you'd like to look at it in its original form, an archive can be found here.
The premise, however, was as follows:
The Arena
100 yard wide circle
some boulders (too large to lift but they can be climbed on)
some trees but nothing exotic, you might be able to break a branch off but the odds aren't great given the distance
The animal(s)
angry and want you to die
you cannot scare them
you CAN hurt them to disable them
they won't do anything suicidal to kill you but they're not afraid of death, though if injured enough they may break just like in the wild
not super intelligent or anything, they won't make plans or traps, but they do know you're there in the arena and they want to kill you
I will not be including anything ridiculous like a hippo or a gorilla.
NOTE: If you die but also kill your opponent (this includes inflicting mortal damage that will assuredly kill it or render it unable to survive when it is returned to its natural habitat), you win
Against the following, you wouldโฆ
It then laid out a series of opponents, some in multiples (i.e. "15 swans"), and asked how the respondent would fare in unarmed combat in the arena as laid out above. There were five options presented for each fight, with choices available being "almost definitely lose", "probably lose", "unsure", "probably win", and "almost definitely win". This was with the True Warrior's understanding in mind: nothing is a sure thing. For the sake of this study, both "lose" themed options have been combined into one, and both "win" options were treated similarly for collation purposes. Confidence goes a long way, but lack of confidence goes even further.
And now I give you the results, with some brief commentary on each:
Black Bear
I'm very disappointed in this one; only 28% of rDrama users could take a black bear in a fight. The "unsure" option was there if you're somehow unsure of what a black bear is, so that's no excuse. Black bears are small, some of you even weigh more than mid-sized adult males. They're also weak and cowards. These things run from dogs. Yes, "the animal won't be scared of you" was included in the rules, but you can still spook it.
A pathetic showing right out the gate.
15 Swans
I was initially unsure of this one too, but you're pretty much invulnerable to even an infinite number of swans (unless they're all being dropped on you to crush you or something weird). They don't even have teeth. Their beaks are a bit serrated for eating algae and shit but that's about it. You can absolutely take 15 swans. Shame on the 23% of you who think you can't or aren't sure.
A Tiger
The TQ was the impetus for this thread and I am sorry to say that like 65% of you are huge kitties. "Probably lose" is realistic, "almost definitely lose" is just sad. It's a CAT. Hit it really hard in the head, you have a chance!!!!!!!!!! If that doesn't work you're boned, but you do have a shot.
A Kangaroo
A pretty even three-way split here. Fair. Kangaroos are weird and only exist in Australia and we generally think they're weirdly tough like a chimp. I have no idea how accurate that is. They look like bitches though. So yeah, nothing really to say here. Who knows. I could take one though.
3 Kangaroos
The 3 kangaroo results are weirdly more optimistic than the tiger results. Thinking you can take 3 kangaroos in a fight is admirable, but if you think you can take 3 kangaroos but not a single tiger, you're probably r-slurred. That's 6 arms and 6 legs going at you. They're big. They're strong. I don't think this reflects on the martial prowess of our users, it's just stupid. Notably, 65% of users feel the triple roo threat is too much for them, so we don't have TOO too many stupids.
King Cobra
How are 13% of you unable to beat a little snake in a fight? It's not ambushing you while you're out for a stroll, you're in a BATTLE ARENA. Maybe the 13% didn't read though. I doubt it, but maybe. It's the most charitable explanation I can think of. What's baffling is the 20% who aren't sure if they can take a little b-word snake.
A Cheetah
This one was a bit tricky. Cheetahs do seem scary. They're really fast, right? Plus they're "big cats" and apex predators. Cheetahs are wimps though. They're like, 3 feet tall or less? They usually weigh less than a large dog. African children wreck them with sticks. Even if you voted that you'd lose, you could still probably take a cheetah. Have some self-respect.
30 Housecats
I can only assume the 17% who voted lose and 9% who voted unsure misclicked. You'll get scratched to shit and will potentially end up permanently disfigured, but unless you just shut down in fear, 30 housecats have no chance against you, I don't care how out of shape you are.
Anaconda
22% of rDrama users cannot beat a snake in a fight. Yeah it's big, but it constricts to kill. It's just a snake you r-slurred cute twinks, stomp its head.
Random arabian stallion, age 8, average build
Friesian stallion, age 13, healthy
I'm presenting the (prime age) Arabian and (old) Friesian results together. More of you are confident that you can take a prime, pissed off Arabian than an old crotchety Friesian. How does that work? If we ever get the ability to ping everyone who voted for a specific option I will remember this thread and ask you all because I'm at a loss here. What????????
Anyway you can take both in a fight. The arena is large. They're horses, they're way stronger than you but they're still just horses. It's not a sure thing even by "nothing is ever a sure thing" standards, but the odds are very much in your favor for both if you don't get spooked by the size of the thing. Or maybe you just don't want to hit a Friesian. I wouldn't either, I get that. The most beautiful horses.
American alligator
Saltwater Crocodile
I'm losing interest in typing this so here's both water lizards together. Apparently both are pretty easy to frick up in real world situations? So you'd probably have a strong advantage in the arena. They're huge lizards though and they look like they've got spiky armor so I get it, the fear factor is huge there. I think I'd probably lose due to pooping myself though I know I could take both if I could get past the intimidation. You could too. But that's a big hurdle.
Your dad when he was your current age
Despite the generally poor showing of rDrama users in The Arena, a slim minority-majority of you are tougher than your dads when they were your age. Weak men make hard times and hard times make slightly less weak men I guess. Maybe your children won't be afraid of cats. Here's to hoping.
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