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Greetings Spelunkystrags! :marseyminer:

A week ago I was listening to Audiobooks regarding the Thai Cave rescue incident in which Rick Stanton and other British and international subterranean cave diving specialists struggled through intense 18 days of drama to excavate 12 thai schoolboys and their teacher, whom had got stuck inside the deep and complex Tham Luang cave passages after an abnormally early flash flood prior to the monsoon season. The moronic drama involving these British cave divers, and the absolute incompetence of the Thai Navy Seals and government was legendary.

Although you won't really find many articles regarding the Thai Navy Seals' incompetence or moronic performance in many liberal articles, or even from the divers in public to maintain good relations, the behind the scenes biographies from these British divers, shed some very very unflattering details regarding the Thai Seal's stupidity. You see the Thai Navy Seals were the main Thai organization responsible for the Thai part of the rescue operation, and although these were skilled and talented men and military arms in their own right, with plenty of rescue operation experience all along the Thai coast, their capacity and performance in the Underground submerged caverns, meant they were out of their depth and completely inexperienced with regards to the rescue of people from underground water, something the Thai Navy had had absolute zero experience from up until the 2018 incident.

The reason for the Thai Seal's r-sluration and dogshit performance was a notion which I as an African had seldom experienced before, since there are basically non-existent asians on the continent - it was the South-East Asian notion of Saving Face.

https://www.teachingnomad.com/blog/china/what-does-saving-face-mean/

To westerners being embarrassed or feeling humiliated in diplomacy tier events is of course nothing new - but Asians take this feeling to the absolute extreme. They are so fricking fearful of losing the respect of others, that our SEA peers from across the Indian Ocean can have some totally batshit and hilarious behaviours. Even something as simple as the feeling that you got the worst part of a trade deal, even for something as inconsiquential as buying daily food in an open market! This feeling of inferiority and humiliation can be so intense that it can be culturally required to extend great effort to "Save Face" and regain your honour and respect among your peers, it's unbelievable.

Now the way this manifested amongst the Thai Seals and the international Cave Divers, especially the very top experts from Britain like Rick Standton - was the resolute refusal to take the advice from the Brits, despite their experience in the calamity. The Thai seals were so absurdly proud, and felt humiliated they were reliant upon foreigners and could mount the rescue operation on their own, it was absurd. They literally sabotaged themselves.

When western Euros and and Bongland, and Burgerland, and other majority white nations extend help to one another, there is very little humiliation in asking for the help of foreigners, and deferring to the expertise of specialists, be it in disaster situations or economic management. Mayos love licking boots, so deferring to other's experience isn't some primal sedoku-suicide inducing blight on your pride - often in fact if a Mayo acted out of their expertise they can get publically flogged afterwards if word gets out and they did a really bad job in some natural disaster calamity, outside their skillset.

EXAMPLES: the Brits and international Cave Divers were ready to dive day 1, but couldn't get permission to enter the cave or waters until 3 days later. It took 10 days since day 0 of the incident to convince the authorities and Seals that leaving the Thai schoolboys inside the caves until the end of the Monsoon season would leave the trapped boys to their doom, as monsoon rain would funnel the waters to their sanctuary.

The Thai Seals nearly drowned themselves in the 1st two days, despite one of the 1st Brits their warning them about Subterranian dangers such as being blinded by the sediment and sand being disturbed from the floors, and not being able to determine direction and balance underwater. The Thai Seal dipshits would also ignore British warning to take reels with them, similar to a string into the Minotaur's labyrinth. It took until day 3 for the fricks to take that piece of advice seriously.

The Thai Seals did not corridor off the 1st chamber before the sump into underground water, to keep civilians out of the caves like the British advised, and many volunteers would help with hoses and generators in the 1st few days to try and pump out water out of Tham Luang cave before everyone realized the majority of the water seeped porously through the mountain walls. In the 1st week the british cave divers rescued 4 men who almost drowned as the monsoon rains pushed water into the 1st and 2nd chamber! This was never even fricking reported!

The Thai Seals would do other stupid shit like when they transported oxygen cylinders to concurrent cave chambers and sumps, like Mount Everest Intermediary camps, and bring fricking empty ones with them. When the Britished asked the Thai Seals to aid in bringing further cylinders, once they had finally taken charge, the Thai Seals would bring oxygen cylinders with them into, but with the fricking wrong valves, or valves that malfunctioned!

The final must suicidal r-sluration of the Thai Seals was that when they, after the British divers had finally found the boys, mapped the chambers, and laid directional reels towards them, had fricking went towards the boys cave - without enough oxygen. As in they only took one cylinder bottle each, when they were transporting food and clothes and blankets and shit, and basically made an unintetional one way trip to the Schoolboy's dry chamber :marseybeanannoyed:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-06/rescue-worker-helping-thai-boys-in-cave-dies/9949622

The final moment which basically convinced the Thai Seals to take the British Cave divers seriously was when one of their own - against ALLLL of the suggestions and protocol advised from the Brits and international cave divers there, finally died from a minor mistake in the caves. He went late at night, alone and without the suggested paired partner, in a trip to deliver oxygen tanks to one of the intermediary sump chambers, and not do the check to see if his current tank was full or not - and thus died from lack of air midway between 2 of the intermediary chambers.


It was from this clownshow in the audiobooks I listened to that I also was inspired by the cave-diver Rick Stanton's misadventures in Mexico, to Looongpost last week.

I was also inspired by the Thai Cave rescue to write about save related dramatic incidents today, specifically SA related. Right sorry for that massive kaamrev-tier neurodivergent tangent, back to the Cango Caves!


THE CANGO CAVES:

https://www.south-africa-info.co.za/country/article/784/history-of-the-cango-caves-oudtshoorn-attractions

The Cango Caves are located in the town of Oudtshoorn, in the Western Cape Province of South Africa. They are one of the most attractive and visited tourist locations in the entire South Africa. They go 4km deep!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582364449552.webp

They also have Khoi-San paintings in their shallow levels, and have been used since pre-historic times, and the earliest stone ages of man.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823641959429.webp

https://www.alamy.com/san-rock-art-of-an-elephant-in-cango-caves-oudtshoorn-western-cape-province-south-africa-image342823775.html

Unfortunately most of these painting have been badly damaged and eroded - 1st by time and elements, but also by vandals and tourists over the years. Point is they are substandard Khoi-San cave paintings to be found in Southern Africa, compared to places like the Cederberg in the Western Cape https://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/3-spots-to-see-rock-paintings-in-south-africa-this-heritage-month-0f9a3a12-3392-43d3-85d1-9217e442351d

The true reason to see the Cango Caves are the spectacular underground caverns, and majestic stalagmites and stalagtites. Unfortunately, even a great many of these have been broken and stolen by vandalous tourists over the last 3 decades.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823646442327.webp

There were even concerts held in the largest main chambers of the Cango Caves till 1991, but was stopped by conservationists because the sounds destabilized many of the precious formations and stalagmites. Truth is neither black or white authority have taken cave of these precious caves very well :marseybeanpensive:


1st EXPLORERS OF THE CANGO CAVES:

About 500 years ago was the last evidence of Khoi-San habitation in the Cango Caves, for whatever reason, the massive groups which inhabited and found safety in these caves, decided to just one day GTFO and disappear. Archeologists theorize that despite the fantastic seclusion and safety the Cango Caves offered, the region became much dryer than usual 500 years ago, causing food scarcity for the Oudshoorn region. Additionally the tribe/tribes inhabiting the Cango Caves overused the region's food sources, forcing them to go on a nomadic tour away further West and South to find habitable regions.

Point is for about 500 years nobody, even the Hottentots (who are ethically different from the Khoi-san and came later to Western SA from Namibia) who lived in the Western Cape even knew about it. Additionally the Hottentots were pastural nomads with their cattle, and didn't subsist solely from hunting like the Khoi-San who seldom build huts. The Hottentots preferred to build huts and Corrals for their cattle, and weren't as dependent as the Khoi-san for refuge from random caves, thus they never really explored the mountainous regions like the Khoi-san, cuz they didn't have need for caverns as havens.

The Cango caves were then rediscovered some time around 1780 by a local farmer named Jacobus Van Zyl. The chamber he first was lowered down into was found to be as long as a football field, and is named Van Zyl Hall since. He would so so with nothing but candles and paraffin lamps, he would not for example be able to see from one end to the other of this colossal chamber, and the entrance without a staircase is a near 10meter drop, in which you also cannot see the bottom from the ledge before being lowered with a rope - these early cave explorers were batshit insane.

Later, further exploration was done and a second chamber discovered in 1792. The caves soon became a popular place to visit. By the 1790s, the caves were already legendary by the locals, and any people passing by would go look at see them.

https://books.google.co.za/books?id=ck4MAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA72&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

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THE 2 TYPES OF TOURS:

Because of the continual damage which tourists from as early as the 1800s made in the Cango caves, by cutting off and stealing stalagmites and stalagtites as souvinirs, the Governor of the Cape at the time, Lord Charles Somerset, published the first Caves Regulation in 1820 which was designed to protect the environmental resource of the caves.

There are 3 big main chambers called Cango One, Cango Two, and Cango three, but there are many many more deep caverns and tunnels that extend way beyond Cango three, and many still being unexplored to this very day, because they are perilous with tight squeezes and sumps into waters. The 1st guide was a dude called Johnnie van Wassenaar, who worked there for 43 years from 1891, and had basically defined the main tour for most people in chambers 1, 2 & 3 - which contained the easiest and safest route to see basically all of the natural wonder the caves offered, without the need of exertion.

I mention this because the 3 main chambers are there to enjoy for normal people to just walk and gawk at the limestone and stalagmites, and is the main money maker route for tourists, as it requires nothing more than the clothes on your back. But beyond the main 3 Cango Chambers, there is also the very famous caving route, which requires a relative deal of exertion.

https://www.cango-caves.co.za/

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Tours are conducted at regular intervals on most days—there is a "Standard Tour" which takes an hour and an "Adventure Tour" which takes an hour and a half. The "Adventure Tour" consists of crawling through narrow passages and climbing up steep rock formations guided by small lights. This adventure tour involves a minimally presumed level of fitness and ability to crawl on your stomach, and isn't intended with old and weak people, but neither is it especially difficult for the average teenager or adult in good health. The smallest passage that tourists will have to pass through on the Adventure Tour is just under 15 cm to exit. And this small passage, my fellow dramatards, is where our nuclear shitstorm drama begins.!


THE MAILBOX/LETTERBOX:

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The Adventure tour basically involves a trip further underground, and this involves crawling, scooting on your butt, squeezing between narrow corridors sideways, and most infamously, crawling on your stomach below a narrow passage infamously named as the Letterbox, because your have to worm/crawl your way through like a letter through the Mailbox. Before entering, guides warn tourists of the neccesary exertion required, and most significantly in the modern Cango Caves, you have to prove you can squeeze through 3 lifesized mimics of the tightest passages:

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That is, these lifesized mimics only existed AFTER 2007. I think you clever dramastrags can see where this is going :marseyclueless: :marseyaware:

Pic of squeezing through the Mailbox:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823662961016.webp


THE LARDASS: :marseychonkerfoid::marseychonkernoticeme:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823663314004.webp

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/big-woman-in-tight-passage-blocks-cave-309486

You will notice that none of the articles I post will go into further details about specifics about the woman who got stuck in the Cango Cave. Specifically her race :marseywrongthonk: Her identity was kept secret by the press, but the backstory quickly spread through the national grapevines that she was a black woman who had accused the guides and facility staff of racism, and that she and her husband had made such a scene, that the underpaid wageslaves there just let her through, with the inevitable consequence that her lardass got stuck the Mailbox passage.

It would have been a glorious story of an arrogant birch reaping her just punishment, if the fact that 23 other fricking poor souls were trapped by the tart, and had to endure her piglike screetching for over 10 hours as rescue workers had tried to dislodge her.

They tried to use mountain climbing tools, as she was so stuck that she was like a human cork. Some politician wanted the rescue workers to use drilling equipment to break away stone, and allow her to be clipped free. But the Cango cave conservationists and staff rebuffed this, as they did not want to damage this national heritage route, or deny future people from climbing through the famous Mailbox, as a damaged passage.

https://mg.co.za/article/2007-01-02-obese-woman-rescued-from-cango-caves/

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https://www.news24.com/news24/liquid-paraffin-frees-woman-20070102

The woman eventually was freed using rock climbing equipment and liquid paraffin - they had to lube up the lardbucket, which allowed the rescue workers to let her slip back out as they pulled her using safety harnesses and tools. It was a monumentally taxing operation, cuz you dramatards need to understand that the rescue workers had very limited space to work in the narrow corridors of the Adventure route pathway. imagine trying bring ropes, and crowbars with you through the tight tunnel. It was a nightmare for the rescuers, and the people trapped by the braphog.

https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2007-01-03-overweight-woman-freed-after-10-hours/


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054456/

Apparently the events are recorded in some kind of series, if any clever dramatard can somehow find this, I swear to god I'll pay 5k dramacoins.


https://www.firefighternation.com/firerescue/unusual-south-african-cave-rescue/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823665046372.webp

The stuck tourists were given blankets and food and chocolate to aid them, as they would basically be stuck until very late at night.

====="Ultimately, it was not necessary to employ power equipment. Two petite female members of the rescue team, equipped with a large supply of petroleum jelly, managed to reach the woman. They thoroughly lubricated her and, with the assistance of a simple hauling system, were able to free her at 2115 hrs.

The group left the caves at about 2300 hrs. The woman was taken to a private hospital in Oudtshoorn for observation. After exhibiting only minor injures, she was released.

The rescue costs totaled 15,000 Rand (just under $3,000 USD).

Despite the ordeal, there was one happy outcome for cave personnel. The cave had been suffering financially due to low visitation. But after the rescue, bookings increased significantly, partly due to tourists wanting to be taken to the Tunnel of Love and shown where the woman became stuck."===== (from the article)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6225301.stm


FINE:

https://www.news24.com/news24/r50-000-to-free-stuck-woman-20070104

The rescue operation would cost taxpayers about 50 000rand.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823666885586.webp

Fricking lmoa. "He emphasised that the differentiation could not be prescribed by weight. Sturdy rugby players, who weigh more than 100kg and who have broad chests, have sailed through the 'tunnel of love'. It all depends on your body type and your mentality. Sometimes, it's a matter of nervous tension. Many people who are fit enough don't want to tackle it because they become anxious in narrow confines." :marseylaugh::marseylaugh::marseylaugh:


It was from this point onwards that the Cango Caves would require tourists to prove that they could move through the Real-live sized mimics at the entrance of the facility, before they would be allowed on the Adventure Tour. A famous euphemism would decorate the entrance hall of the ticket sales booths - "Only Letters, no Parcels through the Mailbox" :marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist:


Here is an ancient Caving hobby forum I've found laughing about the event way back in 2007 January.

https://nssmembersforum.proboards.com/thread/433/23-trapped-cango-caves

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Drama not over till the fat lady signs rescue bill

January 6, 2007

Port Elizebeth Herald

By Cathy Dippnall

Garden Route Correspondent

THE adventure that trapped overweight Veronica Hlabelela in the Tunnel of Love at the Cango Caves in Oudtshoorn on New Year‘s Day, could cost as much as R15 000. But whoever ends up footing the bill, the drama – which was reported around the globe – has meant a huge publicity boost for the tourist attraction with visitors now flooding in to see where Hlabelela got stuck.

Hlabelela, 37, of Durban, was trapped in a 50cm-wide tunnel for over nine hours with 23 other people behind her, including a person with diabetes and a child. In real terms, the cost could be much higher, but government-run rescue services and NGOs will absorb the expenses themselves.

Representatives from these organisations, however, have said the cost of a rescue mission is not something they consider when it comes to saving someone‘s life.

“The government emergency rescue services are run by a province (in this case, Western Cape) and are reliant on government subsidies, which absorb the costs of rescue operations,” said Eden District emergency services spokesman Dion van Wyk. NSRI, which operates as an NGO and which is called out repeatedly to rescue people who have not heeded warnings, also does not consider the financial aspects of rescue operations. “The cost of an emergency is not taken into consideration when a person‘s life is at stake. Our aim is to rescue people irrespective of costs,” said Craig Lambinon, NSRI spokesman.

“Our organisation relies on sponsorships and donations. After we have done a rescue operation, we ask for a donation if possible from the people concerned.” However, the private ambulance service Ambu 911 of Oudtshoorn said they would invoice the Cango Caves for their part in the rescue which took over nine hours, with over 20 rescue personnel from different units being called out.

“The cost is in the region of R10 000 to R15 000, inclusive of all equipment needed,” said manager Anthony Fivas. “We expect the cost to be covered by the Cango Caves‘ insurance which covers emergencies such as this.”

Hein Gertsner, manager of the Cango Caves – which belongs to Oudtshoorn municipality – will meet municipal officials after January 15 to discuss whether or not Hlabelela will have to pay any costs to the municipality. “The final cost of the rescue operation is pure guesswork at the moment,” Gertsner said. “However we have had the best free advertising we could wish for as the news has become known worldwide.”

After a worryingly slow start to the season, numbers at the caves picked up over Christmas. After the incident was made public, the adventure tour was booked out on January 2 and people are still flooding in. Gertsner said visitors specifically asked to go to the Tunnel of Love and wanted to know where the woman was stuck. “You never know – this (the rescue) could just turn us around financially and make it one of the best seasons ever,” said Gertsner.

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Ironically enough is that this news story would boost the Cango Caves for the nation, as metric shitloads of people would buy tickets simply to see 1sthand where exactly the fat lady got stuck!


Anyways that's all I got, GOOD NIGHT! :marseyminer:

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Its just brutal

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Unfortunately the janny menace got to it before there was much drama :#marseyitsover: although it's doesn't appear to be locked yet in case any :m#arseyrapscallion: want to add their 5 cents.

Huh, this is super interesting. They mention an intuitive eating influencer, Lindsay Pleskot, being paid off by the sugar industry.

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I'm glad to see this posted here. I really enjoy MP, think that the hosts are great etc, but they are weirdly quiet when it comes to the influence of mainstream convenience food companies...

"Just admit you hate fat people" is the catchphrase. Fast food companies obviously don't hate fat people, so there's no problem.

:#soyjakanimeglasses::#soyjakferal::#soyjakcobson:

So, my partner's a HAES dietitian. She had to prepare her clients for this article, because it's a problem.

Yes, there's too much money influencing influencers. Absolutely a problem. But everyone mentioned in this article is somewhere in the HAES, body liberation, etc world. They don't mention dietitians that take money from Noom or WW or other diet companies. Which feels fricked up, since I'd bet there's WAY more diet industry money in dietetics than there is food company money.

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this article pissed me off. there is no nuance. i follow one of the RDs who made a sponsored aspartame post and the other things she promotes are things like salmon, grapefruit, and sausage, ffs, and is always SUPER clear about what posts are ads. if anything this is a reminder to be media literate, make sure you read the caption, think critically, but also a lot of these dieticians provide excellent content -- are we supposed to just have them do that for free?!

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Yup! My partner actually knows that RD fairly well. She turns down sponsorship opportunities daily because she doesn't believe in them

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"I'd bet there's WAY more diet industry money in dietetics than there is food company money."

I'm curious about that. Is that a blind bet or do you have some insight? The food companies absolutely SWAMP the diet industry on every other spending metric.

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So as everyone is likely now aware from the main thread, :malefeminist: looks like a character out of one of his own comics:

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and thinks he's an 8.5 :marseyrofl: :marseyobesescale:

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our :marseyreich: :marseynietzscheretard: :gigachad2: also worked for a soy company while making comics spreading rightoid broscience nonsense :marseydarkxd:

while none of this should be surprising to nonchuds and anyone with half a brain :marseybrainlet: these revelations are already starting to cause some major :marseyseethe: as pictured below

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chuds aren't the disgusting freaks, it's anyone who has a problem with neonazi propaganda!

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BUT, unable to help themselves, the fat defenders of rdrama have come out of the woodwork as well!

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@FearOfBees @LSU_Coonass @_ @TR @Wewser @Xenu @fine_wesome

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rightoid influencers are all just as fat, perverted and degenerate as those they seek to scapegoat as the source of society's ills :marseymanysuchcases:

@JohnnyBOO @Grue ping metashit and nonchuds and gimme a pin plz :marseyshy:

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It happened.

I got stuck in a chair yesterday. And to make matters worse, I was all alone (isolating on Christmas to avoid covid.) I was stuck for a good 30 minutes and honestly debated calling the fire department. Eventually I was able to get myself out but needless to say I will be getting rid of my chair that has arms on it.

Anyway, I'm not exactly sure why I'm posting this, I guess just that I was really scared while I was stuck in there and wanted to release that feeling.

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“I'm probably the only restaurateur in the entire world who is unapologetically telling you that my food is bad for you, that it will kill you, and you should stay away from it,” said Basso.

He then revealed a clear plastic bag filled with a powder-like substance. “I'm here with the cremated remains of someone who died at my restaurant. He died of a heart-attack at my restaurant, and I'm putting the bag clearly on the table. I wish that Burger King, McDonalds, and everyone else would do the same thing.”

“John, wait… hold on one second,” sputtered a clearly shocked Liu. “This is getting a little grim. You're saying you have the actual cremated remains of someone who died at your restaurant?”

:chadyes: “Absolutely,” replied Basso, “because the entire fast-food industry is pretty grim.”


The Heart Attack Grill sells a burger called the Octuple Bypass, featuring 8 patties, 40 slices of bacon, a mound of cheese, and comes to 20,000 calories. They offer no diet sodas, all their milkshakes have tequila, and they sell unfiltered cigarettes on the menu next to the food.

If you weigh over 350 pounds then you can step up to the scale to be weighed, and you get to eat free.

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The waitresses are dressed like slutty nurses and paddle you publicly if you don't finish your food.

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In Pittsburgh, Jordan Jones said she felt optimistic about her weight struggles when she heard about Ozempic. Then she found out her insurer wouldn't cover the medication for off-label use.

Her boyfriend is now working 12-hour shifts four days a week to pay for her $800 monthly supply. The couple is also cutting back on eating out, gas, groceries and alcohol, she said.

>Dont want to work out for an hour a day to lose weight

>Make husband work 12 hour shifts instead

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Remember most who go on ozempic tend to regain most of their weight back:


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The danish have unironically hit the cash cow with this drug. I need to find a way to make money of the fats

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I worked in a pharmacy in Germany serving Americans (aka fats) from 2008-2010. Fat, American veterans were my most common patients and as such we had a lot of diabetics. Being a pharmacy owned by the government we sometimes did drug trials. A comically large Type 2 diabetic I'd been serving for years :marseychonker2: brought me a medication for semaglutide (our hero, ozemspic). We knew it was coming as we had received the shiny drug trial medication earlier that week.

We hand him the 4 auto injectors for his once weekly doses, the pharmacist goes over some side effects and what to look out for and we send him on his way. To return next month for his next 4 injectors.

Drug trials were fairly rare and I still thought medicine was cool back then so I did a bit of research and the drug sounded cool. It was made by studying Gila monsters. Something about their saliva being a poison to help them hunt or some shit. Idk it's been years.

But the main take away is that in 999% of cases type 2 diabetics ate themselves to that point. :nikocadoavocadodance::nikocadoavocadodance2::nikocadoavocadodance:

If a TD2 will lose weight they really aren't fricking diabetic anymore. (as evidenced in an unrelated medical study where hookworms can cure them too, not enough willpower to quit eating so the hookworms will do the digesting while you keep goyslopping)(https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/08/22/230234/hookworms-successfully-prevent-type-2-diabetes-in-human-trial) Well semaglutide makes people lose weight nearly 100% of the time. It makes you have no appetite. You almost have to force yourself to eat.

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Well when next month came I barely even recognized him. :marseythinkorino2: Our heroic fat had lost 39 pounds. THIRTY NINE FRICKING POUNDS. Over the next six months, he dropped over 120 pounds. Not changing his shopping, or restaurant visits. Only taking ozemspic and just EATING less because he wasn't hungry. He didn't even realize it was his eating less that made him lose it and his understanding was that the drug was doing a version of lips almost lmao

in 2019 it got approved as a weightless drug. In 2020 it was the 129th most prescribed drug. in 2022 it was the 7th.

it changed the fricking economy of denmark

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Diabetics can't even get the drug because the fatties are begging their doctors for it en masse :marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseylaugh::marseylaugh::marseylaugh:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/people-diabetes-struggle-find-ozempic-soars-popularity-weight-loss-aid-rcna64916

Where's the drama?

Anytime a celebrity loses weight recently the internet screams OZEMPIC (and they're right, especially with the really crazy weight change ones).

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They've also coined "ozempic face"

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subtweeting ozemspic users

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Fat celebs we've been robbed of due to ozempic

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Obviously not the Schumer :marseylaugh::marseyshrug:

Anyways if you don't think this shit is gonna have dire consequences you're very naive :marseythumbsup::marseythumbsup::marseythumbsup:

She says she magically lost this walking 20 miles a day.

She's lying

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16934491136087031.webp

Is this how normal people feel?

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we live in a society

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Holy based movie scene, which movie is this?!

!mayomoment

!edgelords I present you your queen

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I thank God every day for fat people

!fitness words of wisdom

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Delivery app :marppy: accidentally shames :marseychonker:

lol

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Why :marseyconfused2: is there a height :marseylongsurfing: filter but no weight filter :marseychonkerfoid: on dating apps :marseyappicon:?

Because weight doesn't define health.

:#soyreddittalking:


A weight preference is not wrong. But there is a faction that is very LOUD that are trying to convince everyone that a weight preference is wrong. Those people need to shut the heck up.

You aren't a BBW. You are obese.

This causes a :marseysneed: storm.


Lots of healthy women's weight can vary by 20 lbs depending on the time of day and where she is in her cycle. Mine always has, and that is one reason I had to stop weighing myself everyday and just stick to weighing myself at the same point in my cycle at the same time of day in order to have a better idea for if I was gaining or losing weight or maintaining. So you could end up with situations where men claimed a woman lied about her weight when she really didn't.

Not only that, but lots of women just wouldn't put their weight into a dating app, so it would be a bit self defeating.

Sorry that chubby ladies offend you so much.

:#marseychonkerfoidpuketalking:


A weight filter would serve no purpose. People carry weight differently. A body shape filter would make more sense.

Edit: A lot of people could easily just lie, too.

:#marseyseethetalking:


Hypocrisy my guy

:#soyjakanimeglassestalking:


others have answered your main question but I just want to point out how problematic it is to think those who are bigger aren't healthy or health-conscious, or that someone being skinny automatically means they are either

:#marseyradfemtalking:

Being overweight 100% correlates with worse health, that's not "problematic" it's just the truth

:#gigachad2talking:

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!bharatiya sorry for giving you all big bellies

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https://twitter.com/ShreeHistory/status/1757068040884117790

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https://twitter.com/ZarnaJoshi10/status/1756894180863885434

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>sorry, I can't go to the gym today, my great granddad was hungry once

https://twitter.com/xImEmYSELF/status/1757077258127151538

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https://twitter.com/ShreeHistory/status/1756857405994860862

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https://twitter.com/sanskritiey/status/1756933793594712231

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https://twitter.com/YoSwaroop/status/1756889836655415417

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I cant wipe my own butt and im okey with it.

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Fat b-word broke his suspension

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There are also little candy areas all around the store

Update: I bought some candy

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fatcel is mad that men are attracted to short women

!thin

this is the body of a CHILD and if you find it attractive you’re a dirty p-do

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this is my favorite part in the thread. fatcel doesn’t realize that normal sized (esp short) women in america have to shop in the kids section because all the adult clothes are always catered to the obesity fandom

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!fellas !biofoids is being attracted to short women pedophilia?

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