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...and locked the thread because of it, cowards
Or to become a mockery on some incel website with posts clearly made by someone that clearlu is an active poster here?
https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/214604/neurodivergent-long-effortpost-i-dont-think?sort=new
The MCU is likely not going away in our lifetimes. Neither the MCU fans. Just like the Star Wars fans before them. What is a shame is how this small community has deteriorated itself, it used to be a cool place. But clearly, if people don't feel welcome here, they will find somewhere else where they can have a civil conversation without people constantly poisoning the well. Anyway, back to Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and pizza.
Our brave Disney fighter () is the one who discovered the post, since he apparently googles his own name
And Zatt buddy, I didn't single you out actually, but your comments amount to half of that 200-something pages long thread, it was impossible to not write about you. You really really need to touch some grass
If it makes you feel any better, I have no idea what the Flame Wars thread is, so it existing or not wouldn't have changed anything about this post. But I fully support the creation of a new soyshit battleground
This is precisely the type of thing that left untreated will fester and slowly erode a community like this one, driving away members and productive engagement.
You'll never catch me losers
And the closing post from the admins. I just singled this part out to remind you that if you're naughty the jannies will give you bad boy points and you'll regret it
This movie is in an even worse shape than my last post (could have a $45m opening, as opposed to the $50-60m opening predicted then), but I'm sure Brie Larson making few more constipated faces on television would have totally saved The Marvels
(Btw, when I went to my previous post to check it I mentioned Zatt Murdok by name it crashed my browser I love Homoween )
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I'll let our friends at /r/boxoffice explain some context for it's numbers:
The Flash was a massive failure, so The Marvels getting compared with this movie is really bad
But do you know what comparison would be worse?
The low end should be $75M+ easily.
Ooops
Alice in Wonderland: $1.025B
Alice through the Looking Glass: $299.5m (-71% drop, -$726m absolute drop)
Captain Marvel grossed $1.131B, for The Marvels to drop better than 71% it needs to gross at least $328m worldwide and $405m worldwide to do better than the absolute drop. It will need to come in at the higher end of this estimate to have a chance.
Marvel is still breaking records!
Can you imagine this happening?!
Back to drama now:
It's time for these threads again. I'll see y'all after the movie is out lol.
"I can't handle bad news."
Probably more so the chuds being annoying about it.
I have a feeling this discussion would look different if the numbers were really good
I'm excited for this movie. People complain for sake of complaining.
Nothing can save the soydditor from himself
A chud decided to get his revenge, lots of angry replies
$50-75M Opening Weekend
$121-189M Domestic
For context, at best, the opening weekend numbers are only half of the original Captain Marvel, with the best domestic gross being only a bit more than a third of the original.
At worst, it becomes the lowest opening and domestic performance for the MCU ever. The opening would even be below The Flash and Green Lantern.
I might honestly lose my faith in humanity if this has the lowest opening in MCU history.
M-my faith in humanity! Why won't you guys watch Disney's newest hecking wholesome girlboss superhero movie!
no its what happens when you keep releasing movies like mom and thor 4 that erode the trust of the audience who expect greatness. it's how the dceu went into the shitter even though there was no "agendas" there to upset you.
Well, they might make better movies if they focus less on the agenda
Before people fly off the handle and launch themselves into the sun, it's important to remember that it takes a long time to right a ship. Both in terms of quality and box office. The Marvels is suffering at the box office for a variety of reason. Part of that being because the MCU fricked up movies like Ant-Man and Thor. Quality wise, if it sucks, it's something that sucked when it was made like a whole year ago.
This! It's gonna take time for the quality to catch up I'm guessing by time 2025 tbh
I know that last few Marvel movies were bad, and I know that at least the next few ones will be too, but we must keep watching them all in the hopes that the Mouse will eventually reward our undying loyalty
Brie is totally to blame for doing a shit job of playing the role
Frick you
Same guy btw
You're not serious. Quantumania looked like a piece of shit even before it was released but even so open above 100 million. Stop pretending hate against women doesn't exist.
LOL. I'm not getting into politics with you. The movie doesn't look that good and any lack of success won't be because of hate against women. You need to get off the internet and live in the real world.
Just say you hate women weirdo
I see we're preemptively blaming the incel boogeyman before the movie even drops. It couldn't possiby be recent lack of faith in the brand.
He's just fighting all over the comment section
Ahh yes everyone unhappy with marvel and it's products is incelish. Great critical analysis. This is exactly why no one takes y'all seriously. Like ik there is a vocal minority who simply hate because it is being led by a woman, but it's not crazy to believe that there are other people who are simply unhappy with how their products have been turning out.
I just said "I try not to use 'incel' as a pejorative". pay attention
The soys are fighting!
Homie out for Brie Larson's blood in this thread 😭
i meant the villain, but yeah Brie is also terrible casting
Incredibly sketchy pre-sale data with no sound sampling mechanisms. (You couldn't publish an academic paper with data this messy).
Questionable assumptions about consumer behavior based on past trends and the assumption that the audience for this film is entirely comparable to the audience for GotG 3 and Quantumania.
This is the mother of all copes. J-just like Barbie guys!
Promise?
Cope, but also
Wow the YouTubers are going to have a field day if this happens…
Case in point, the nazis will gloat for days
Do better sweetie
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so I was watching BP2 on the first friday of Black History Month. hey, don't judge me, it was a family thing and my phone was dead.
I honestly don't think I've laughed so hard at a movie in a long time, and that includes actual comedy films. Everything is just so r-slurred.
The main villian is this goofy-butt motherlover with wings on his feet, and you are supposed to think that he is scary or something
Main character's side-kick is a 19 year old who is vastly smarter than all white people. she invented something for "metallurgy class" and the CIA stole it lmao. then she made her own iron man suit. I shit you not, this is a real character in this movie
one of the first fight scenes is three black superheroes running away from the police. like, the literal police.
fighting spear lady from the first one gets her own iron man suit for some reason, and it has fricking dreadlocks lmaooo.
villian returns to his home on land and just runs into a bunch of slaves and goes into pure incel-rage mode. genuinely hilarious scene. seriously, watch this shit
at the end of the movie it turns out that black panther had a son he abandoned 🤣
the white spy guy commited treason against the united states for some fricking reason, when spear lady rescues him she says "a colonizer in chains? ironic"
also wakanda is revealed to be massive peepees to literally every other country in the world.
there's also, of course, the holdovers from the first movie
ape guy is back (who thought this was a good idea)
the herb looks suspiciously like lean
it's also just funny in concept. the entire movie is black cope and seethe the entire way through. everything about wakanda and the black heroes is just an inversion of racist stereotypes cranked up to the extreme.
Black people are stupid? In Wakanda black people are so smart they make everyone else look stupid in comparison.
Black people are weak? In Wakanda black people are so powerful that literally the entire earth trembles because of them.
African art is primitive? In Wakanda african art is in literally all technology, and all ships and shit look like african masks.
Unfortunately I can't recommend it because half the movie was actors boringly sucking their own peepees about Chadwick Boseman dying and how he was so influential etc. Look, nothing against the guy, but when I go out, I'd rather you just throw me in the dumpster than dedicate a terrible capeshit to me.
EFFORTPOST absolutely top tier soyshit meltdown effortpost [Neurodivergent long effortpost] I don't think anyone ever posted drama from BoxOfficeTheory here, so in celebration of Captain Marvel's movie reaching new lows in term of audience reception, I'll present you a potential new drama hunting ground
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BoxOffice Theory is a boxoffice discussion forum that's famous in the business, with actual boxoffice trackers and Hollywood insiders commenting there occasionally. It's also a site that manages to be even more painfully unfunny than reddit. People can get banned by jannies for the mildest disagreements, even hinting that woke movies are bad can get you in trouble, and people there defend Disney like they personally own shares in the company. There's lots of drama and pettiness going on in there but the site culture and the forum layout makes if difficult and boring to find it.
I wrote a small introduction for context but if you don't care you can skip to the next section
The Marvels forum thread has been extra smug ever since the movie was announced. Captain Marvel was the proof that annoying internet chuds were just some pathetic obstacles that will soon be crushed by the ever benevolent Hollywood which will result in a film utopia where every possible minority group will find proper representation in unproblematic movies forever. Despite nazi racist incels screaming at Carol Danvers, her movie still made a billion dollars at the boxoffice and Captain Marvel was set to become one of the most important characters in the franchise, and even a potential leader of the new Avengers. And her newest movie will prove that the future is female and that chuds have no power outside of their youtube echochambers. Every disagreement was vehemently attacked, as was every hint that the movie isn't doing well with all the delays and reshoots it was going through (without mentioning the quality of the recent Marvel movies). People there were salivating at the thought of The Marvels making another billion dollars.
But as November approaches and the movie is set to open in theatres soon the proper tracking of this movie began... and it's not going well at all. The excitement for this movie is at an all time low for the franchise and the ticket pre-sales are cry worthy.
Worse than the Flash and Indiana Jones As a slight context, the first Captain Marvel movie opened at $153m. Nearly a month ago The Marvels tracked for a $90-100m opening and that was considered disappointing. A few days ago it was tracking for a $70-80m opening and that was basically considered disastrous. Now it might not even make that much.
Elemental was assumed to be a massive bomb when if first opened and was lucky to have long legs. Marvel movies have notoriously short legs, relaying on the opening week for most of their earnings, there's absolutely no way The Marvels will have the same luck Elementals had, and it's already doing worse
(OW - opening weekend or opening week, depending on the context. Not sure which one is this guy referring to, but it doesn't really matter)
Now, the jannies have mostly gave up trying to mop the thread so it has gotten quite lively. People are mocking Marvel, start arguments all over the place and argue about random off-topic things. And more importantly, Marvel fans are getting attacked by everyone. (I won't quote full posts every time because the forum residents love their and really technical explanations).
And of its a man declaring this! Maybe perhaps Barbie both focused on a brand women recognised and also on a message they connected with.
MEANWHILE CAPTAIN MARVEL PUNCH HARD.
This is the type of comments you can expect from the site, and why The Marvels thread descending into chaos is so funny
"Why do two films with drastically different budgets in drastically different situations get judged differently? It's just not fair!"
we could go into it but realistically you will never agree which means I would waste my time so I will instead sit on the sideline and watch the meltdown
i think you might want to check out shawn's forecast
I'm well aware. But if The Marvels surpasses expectations, that would be hardly the first time that a forecast of his or the trades themselves prove them differently. Heck, we just need to look at the trades box office forecasts of Barbie at the exact same time frame for that.
I urge you to go look at Barbie's daily pace and then come back and look at this film's
This guy is one of the two Marvel fans who stubbornly defend the franchise in every single discussion.
Female audiences are leading the charge in divesting from superhero films.
Marvel fans still seethe at Scorsese
When the trailer played before KOTFM, the audience seemed so disinterested. I think the MCU has worn out its welcome.
Speaking of Scorsese, they played the trailer to The Marvel's before Scorsese's latest movie
(KOTFM - Killers of the Flower Moon, Scorsese's latest movie)
: some long post about Quantumania
This guy has a reputation...
long post criticising the way Marvel handled Captain Marvel's character
That's more than 250 words to say how much you dislike Captain Marvel. Impressive.
Nice to see you back on these boards, Zatt. Now I am sure this thread can get 300 page count :)
You know it's truly over when even other autists are dunking on you on sight
Poor Disney, they can never win!
This would have been controversial less than a month ago.
I think people in general like Captain Marvel far more than Ant-Man or Wasp.
You know, I've been thinking that you sound delusional but didn't want to say anything. This confirms it. Have you ever spoken to anyone who says they like captain marvel more than Scott? I find that really really hard to believe, and it sounds like wishful thinking to me. This girl is exactly the type that marvel is trying to court, and she ranks captain marvel below ant man 1 and 2, and among the worst movies in the franchise (at the time).
It doesn't even need to be said, the hard data backs me up. Captain Marvel is way more popular than Ant-Man. All the metrics possible when it comes to these characters point to that. Sometimes you just gotta read absurd shit and let it go.
Even if she was written to be wisecracking there would be hordes of men who would dislike that as well. Every time a woman does stand up comedy, men complain that they're not funny. I genuinely believe that most men dislike funny women.
: It's quite weird how much it seems like a lot of the most vocal criticism towards women online comes from men that seem to just hate women in general. (...) I mean one of the most understandable criticisms I've seen for prominent women in film is that Gadot was part of the IDF, even some of her online positions or lack of. I can understand why that would warrant criticism, but meanwhile Tom Cruise is the god of cinema and is running Scientology on the side. But it's always something, and don't tell me it's just Brie Larson's Carol Danvers. I've seen a lot of that thrown at Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn too.
True, Cruise is never criticised for his Scientology connections, never!
Another simp joined the discussion
"Seriously guys, stop bullying Marvel! Bully DC for a change!!"
This is also the third time this guy bitched about Scorsese completely unprompted
LMAO
I wanted to avoid posting twitter links here to avoid confusion but I really need to emphasize just how deranged this guy is
New trailer! In Spanish.
this looks like a Disney Channel movie. No wonder it's tracking badly
Well it has two Disney+ leads
post comparing the new trailer with a Guardian of the Galaxy 3 one
Darn these movies with totally different tones have different trailers?
This is the second Marvel defender I was talking about.
Feige stop hiring millennial writers and indie Oscar Bait Directors who can't direct action movies Challenge. Impossible.
There's no way Monica Rambeau actually says "I can see light" in the movie right?
Didn't watch the trailer but it's apparently really bad
They are truly running out of ideas at this point...
Just let people enjoy things!
: Do you think those are the only reasons those movies got good reviews???
: It's clearly because Marvel pays films critics, what are you talking about
They met each other!
Marvel is not able to touch people's hearts like old days.
: To be clear, you are defining "the old days" as Guardians 3, a movie that released this year.
You can toss out a million excuses and defenses and claim that there is nothing wrong with the modern MCU but the fact is The Marvels is tracking poorly with pre-sales and Marvel movies thrive on pre-sales. There is a problem no matter what the defense squad claims.
: I don't see why you keep acting like The Marvels is the rule and not an exception. Apparently one sub-100 opening out of the last 7 movies is the death of the franchise?
The soys are like they immediately shit up anything they touch
Disney will allow social media reaction to pre-screens to appear only in the same day the movie hits theatres. This shows that the Mouse knows the movie is shit and wants to keep this hidden for as long as possible. Multiple posters point this out
: God it'll be hysterical of the reviews are not as disastrous as you all are predicting
I have no idea about how much it's going to do on RT score. I am intrigued with Davis saying that there are surprises though. He doesn't usually hype this kind of thing out of nowhere. It's a pointless exercise to try and predict RT film scores, it fluctuates too much unlike videogames MC scores.
These are the only people still defending The Marvels
some user has behind the scenes knowledge that Disney doesn't have much faith in the movie's quality
This is peak BOT. I'm curious, where do you heard about this? Reddit? Twitter? Or are Marvel Studios filming in Goiás, Brazil? It's not lost on me that you kept insinuating that I was ‘attacking' Scorsese on the weekend thread when I was talking about a serious topic. All I'm saying is: what you say about me, take a good look at your own actions. The pettiness is what levels down the discourse here, it's the personal attacks, the insinuations. You don't know how much faith Disney has or has not in this film. You don't have ‘sources', and acting like you do doesn't help anyone. We actually have (had) people that work in the industry, some actually at Marvel Studios around here. Just don't act like you have some sort of privileged info.
I can't believe i'm about to enter in this but let's go.
What the frick whatever i said here have anything to do with the Killers Of The Flower Moon discussion?
I didn't insinuate anything to you, i said what i said very clearly to the person i actually though it was being ironic. I quoted the person and said to him directly that i though he was weaponizing indigenous words to his own benefit, and I'll post the receipts here before you twist this.
If i didn't quote you and said it, it's not about you. But now that you posted a ridiculous rant about something totally unrelated to this thread, I'm starting to question this guilty try of a “gotcha” post that sure shows a lot more about you than about me.
I never personally attacked you, i didn't insinuate anything to you, shockingly not everything that happens on this forum is about you. Frick, even my post that you posted here wasn't quoting you, so why the heck you're acting like it?
And what exactly you're implying here saying where i live? This is supposed to be a threat or a way to shame me? Maybe you didn't noticed but we live in a globalized world, there's something called internet, i don't need to live on US to talk to people that could know about stuff. I said what I've heard, without attacking anyone and not even the movie, i'm not obligating anyone here to believe.
It's kinda funny to read your sermon about pettiness when you're the one that took a relevant discussion from another thread about another movie with things that i said to other person, posted here and get mad about it without anyone ever saying anything to you. Look at yourself, read this pathetic post that you posted here starting a fight and then think about pettiness again.
Eric Mouse ( ) i'm sorry about this post, but i felt personally attacked without doing anything and gave myself the right to answer and defend myself from it. If you have to ban me for this it's ok, but i'm feeling very weird about someone taking some post i did in other unrelated thread addressed to another person and posting here trying to humiliate me publically when i didn't do anything.
Jannies! He's harassing meeee!!
(Also notice how this guy is apologizing for this post, the mop wielders tend to be really trigger happy here)
The jannies are finally here! And for once they ban the woke Disney shills
And that was the saga of Disney's mightiest defender, RIP (until tomorrow at least)
(threadbanned - not allowed to post in that specific thread, but can post freely everywhere else)
Nooo, you can't waste days making angry videos about random brave qween actresses, noooo!
There's a mini-trailer linked in the comment, go watch it! It's hysterically bad
The jannie has decided to join the Marvel mockery
Another proof that shaked the forum was Luiz. Luiz Fernando is a hobbyist boxoffice tracker who is famous for how he tries to spin every possible number in a positive way. He's been accused of being a shill for every single studio out there but the guy is just really optimistic and excitable. And this is what he just posted about the Marvels. TL;DR: it will probably bomb hard.
Oh no. Luiz is actually doomposting? I gotta get in on that under John Carter club.
John Carter is the biggest boxoffice failure ever. Recently lots of movies were compared to it, from Elementals (which recovered to a mild underperformance status), Indiana Jones, The Flash and now tentatively The Marvels.
wtf. previews 2 days before. reviews the day before. that john carter club is looking appealing rn.
More users bringing up John Carter
This guy predicted the movie will be a disaster for a while and got bullied for it
This is it! I hope you guys liked a sneak peak into a completely new neurodivergent biome There's a lot more happening in the thread in anyone is curious.
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The Marvels social embargo lifts
**Grace Randolph📷https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph·1m#TheMarvels is short & sweet plenty of laughs & action I went in hoping it wouldn't be TOO bad & ended up with a smile on my face the whole time TONS of surprises big & small (NOT just the end credit scenes) - avoid spoilers!
**Jeff Nelsonhttps://twitter.com/SirJeffNelson·22s#TheMarvels weaves fun fight choreography with an engaging dynamic between Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, and Iman Vellani. However, the narrative is lacking and the villain falls incredibly flat. Some strong ideas, but it doesn't all quite come together. A mixed bag.
**Emmanuel (E-Man) Noisettehttps://twitter.com/EmansReviews·55s#TheMarvels is a mixed bag some could call "fun" but may not blow everyone away. Iman Vellani is a gem. The power swaps & team bonding were a good time. This felt like a 60% Marvel 40% Disney movie. It's not for everyone but low expectations can help. Great post credit scene.
TomChatalbashhttps://twitter.com/TomChatalbash·1mIt's saddening that it's tracking so low because #THEMARVELS is a BLAST! A breath of fresh air for the MCU that balances terrific humor and heart throughout and boasts fantastic performances and chemistry from its main trio of Larson, Parris, and Vellani.
Herb Scribnerhttps://twitter.com/HerbScribnerThere are some issues (the silly stuff worked for me, I know pockets of the internet won't like it). Villain needed a little more work. —But otherwise, #TheMarvels is like if a Phase 2 MCU film had a baby with a Phase 4 project. Echoes of GOTG, Ant-Man, Thor 4. —Really sums up the “homework” well. General audiences will get it. —The final scene and the post credit will leave you wanting the next MCU movie quickly!
Eric Goldmanhttps://twitter.com/TheEricGoldman·2mIn a year that gave us the big low of Quantumania and the high of GotG 3, #TheMarvels is a solid middle of the path, entertaining MCU installment. Fun and funny and built around a likable team dynamic though not special enough to overcome many of those now superhero cynical.
Andy Signorehttps://twitter.com/andysignore·3m#TheMarvels Is a hot mess. That final trailer was shameful trolling. I'm angry at their DESPERATE mid credit reveal THAT's how we're doing that?! And that's where we're going!? No thanks. I don't care anymore. I'm done. No wonder they wanted us drunk… Full Review tomorrow
Edward Douglashttps://twitter.com/EDouglasWW·4mQuite enjoyed #TheMarvels, and I think Nia DaCosta did a fantastic job with an outer space epic that had moments on par with the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and one bit that would blow even https://twitter.com/JamesGunn's mind. A thoroughly enjoyable action flick with a terrific trio of actors.
Zach Popehttps://twitter.com/popetheking·6m#TheMarvels is a winner Not a perfect winner But a light, breezy, entertaining blockbuster that delivers a satisfying team up! Brie Larson really SHINES as Captain Marvel (Finally), Iman continues to be a shining Star as Kamala Khan, & Teyonah Paris knocks it out as Rambeau!
Darryl Manselhttps://twitter.com/Seedalicious·1m#TheMarvels is a DELIGHT, front to back. It's by no means a perfect movie, and there's a few questionable choices but overall I had a blast from beginning to end. Iman is a joy, Teyonah held her ground, Brie reminded me she's that business. GO SEE IT.
Alex Maidy
#TheMarvels is the latest in the MCU's string of passable superhero movies. Like Ant-Man 3 and Thor 4, it is more focused on laughs than character development. Iman Vellani is the highlight while Brie Larson and Teyonah Parris are good but don't have a lot to do.
ViewerAnonhttps://twitter.com/ViewerAnon·12m#TheMarvels is a fusion of light, color, and sound. Action scenes are accentuated with rumbling bass if the theater is so-equipped. DO NOT LEAVE BEFORE THE CREDITS END, make sure to stay seated and appreciate everyone who made the movie.
Steven Weintraub https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty·1mHappy to report #themarvels is a blast. It's fun, funny & the cast is so good together. Is it one of the best Marvel movies? No. But I had a smile on my face a lot. Definitely worth seeing in a movie theater. Also the after the credits scene is Excited for what's next.
**Scott Menzelhttps://twitter.com/ScottDMenzelThe Marvels is such a disjointed mess. It feels like there are countless scenes missing from the film. Characters appear and disappear without much explanation. Energy levels are high but so much of this film is way too childish for its own good. It feels like a Disney+ Movie . #TheMarvels
Dempsey Pillothttps://twitter.com/DempseyPillot·15mNia DaCosta's #TheMarvels is a delight! The power-swapping plot is cool & all, but the real fun comes from the stellar chemistry between Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris & Iman Vellani. Low stakes aside, it delivers some of Marvel's best action & comedy to date! See it with a crowd
**Kirstenhttps://twitter.com/KirstenAcuna·1mReally dug #TheMarvels. Not perfect, but a breezy 1 hr & 45 full of laughs (courtesy of Kamala + her fam) and clever action sequences boosted by the film's body swapping. Iman Vellani is the MVP. The film does an excellent job setting Ms. Marvel up as the MCU's next leader.
**Andrew J. Salazarhttps://twitter.com/AndrewJ626·4mDespite everyone on screen trying their best, #TheMarvels feels like it lost its battle in the editing room. Scenes don't flow into each other & you can't tell when the first act or second act begins. There's a few really dope scenes but studio interference might be to blame.
** Jenna Anderson https://twitter.com/heyitsjennalynn·20mI found #TheMarvels to be utterly delightful. It shows what's great about the superhero movie “genre” without feeling the need to completely tear it down & reinvent it. It's breezy, zany & heartfelt in a way that really worked for me.
**Gissane Sophia https://twitter.com/GissaneSophia·5m#TheMarvels isn't perfect and there are issues, but overall it's a phenomenal joy ride entirely because of the leads, familial dynamics, and flerkens. Kamala Khan remains the best addition in the MCU, and the thematic focus on second chances is easy to appreciate.
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Griffin Schiller
#TheMarvels is Josstice League levels of bad. Idk what the heck I just sat through. So many random threads, empty payoffs, a lack of any real emotion or character. Tonally & narratively a Jackson Pollock painting. A season finale to a non existent season of television. A mess.
Kristian Harloffhttps://twitter.com/KristianHarloff·14mJust saw #theMarvels The chemistry is there with the leads, The storyline with Carol and Monica works. Kamala is charming. Unfortunately that's all the movie has. Sloppy plot, uneven script, and two bits that single handidly almost bring down the movie. This is a big miss.
Bonus:
Mama's Geeky actually admits that The Marvels has a 'few issues'. However, Erik Davis remains undefeated as king of the shills.
Overall impression: gloves off and far more willing to be negative than even Quantumania. IMO, the only factor preventing this movie from being rotten tomorrow is if real critics grade on curve.
As an aside, it's hilarious to see people purporting to be authorities on the world of entertainment totally being unable to read between the lines here.
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‘THE BOY AND THE HERON’ wins Best Motion Picture: Animated at the #GoldenGlobes pic.twitter.com/LLbEy5zn0v
— Film Updates (@FilmUpdates) January 8, 2024
For those who don't know The Boy and The Heron is the latest Miyazaki film that was released to critical acclaim but tepid audience reaction because it was too "weird". People here are probably aware of the Spiderverse animated flicks but not how massively overrated they're amongst online "cinephiles". Not only does this film have a rabid capeshit fanbase but it has also managed to rope in the wokes and the film twitter/letterboxd crowd (seriously it was the highest ranked film of all time on letterboxd).
Because Miyazaki's film had a lukewarm audience reception it was a genuine surprise it won over Across the Spiderverse. Suffice to say, these nerds are not taking it well . Some of the reactions.
What do you mean Across the Spiderverse didn't win best animated movie at the Golden Globes
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WDYM ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE LOST ????!!?!? they so wrong for that omg
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Across the Spiderverse was snubbed, wtf is the boy & the heron.
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you're telling me Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse won…. nothing?
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Of course, we also have weebs acting smug over this .
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Preschool twitter fighting for their life of Across the Spider-Verse not winning
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them miguel fics and the yt cop girl with the bang doesn't mean it deserved an award cope and seeth
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It was basically the equivalent of jangling keys for babies. Except for a certain demo instead
Now, this doesn't guarantee that The Boy and The Heron will win at the Oscars and apparently it only won at the Golden Globes because it has a more "International" voting body now. Spiderverse is still the frontrunner for the Oscars. Still, the meltdown would be 100x this if Spiderverse were to lose at the Oscars. Hope they act based for once and piss all over capeshit this year but I'm not holding my breath over it .
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The outlook continues to look bleak for superhero pic The Marvels, which is falling off 78 percent to 80 percent in its second outing to rank as Marvel Studios' worst second-weekend drop of all time, as well as the worst for any Hollywood superhero pic. Among Marvel Cinematic Universe titles, threequel Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania previously sported the worst drop of 69 percent.
The Marvels is expected to earn $9 million to $10 million for the weekend.
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So even Encanto's $40M 5-day opening is dead. This will likely not even reach $90M then.
This is even lower than films like Penguins of Madagascar and Rise of the Guardians. Outside of Strange World and Croods 2 (since it was 2020), we haven't had the top animated film during Thanksgiving gross this little since Arthur Christmas in 2011.
Disney adults had gotten waaaaay too smug and uppity the past decade as a result of Disney's boxoffice domination. Seeing them crawl back into their holes in recent years has been a pleasure .
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Absolutely not . I feel like Disney has an agenda . They want all projects with minorities to flop so they can say see , we tried more diversity and it didn't work . I'm all for diversity but they've been making such shitty choices lately.
purposely throwing money away to embarass black folks seems the new agenda on projects that clearly will fail and have racists gather to bash
Bingo. They need to let the franchise go or because this ain't gonna work. Depp is too controversial right now so I understand why, but no. They keep setting up minorities primarily black women. When they could replace him with Timothee or someone else. They know this will spark outrage.
Kill this darn series already! That saggy, alcoholic ballsack Depp unfortunately played a character that is absolutely central to the franchise, so without Jack Sparrow it just doesn't make any sense. If Disney actually had any original ideas anymore, they wouldn't need to bite off the same tired butt franchises and set up poc and female actors for abuse!
Someone thinks the og complainer is a spicy industry plant.
It's typical and quite common on here. After moaning about full black women being replaced by biracial actresses and black women being overtly xesual, you'd think they would embrace someone like Ayo. She's a full DS black woman who is quirky and chill. She put in the work to get where she is today, so it's weird to see some fonts agreeing with that racist Mexican font about her being an industry plant. Smh I'm not taking anymore complaints about black women representation seriously on LSA.
More conspiracy theorizing in the comments.
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Everything is becoming ugly and I hate it. Perhaps I could've tolerated the masses of Foucault wannabes turning our towns into brutalist work camps, but I will not allow the erasure of the bitchy white woman archetype and its reduction to an Ash Sakar 'nuh uh' sassy dravidian type slop.
See, with the original Regina George, her conceitedness is understandable, tolerable even, because of her looks, but how will that make sense in this reboot? What, some 4/10 muttface foid whining about Dey Rights and Wypipo is going to invoke the same spirit? I think the frick not you trick butt b-word.
i see this puffy sharkface foid maybe eight times a day. I detect the >14% non-european admixture by scent long before I see the plagiocephalic skull.
fat
if I say what I want to about this I will be fined six hundred quid
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Bella is neither a woman nor ugly
(And for anyone wondering I think they currently use all pronouns)
That girl is an amazing actress. She's perfect.
EDIT- I didn't know that Bella is non-binary. Sorry, I don't read any entertainment news. Regardless, great actor by any measure in any context.
Didn't watch whatever Ellie from, but she was a shitty addition to GOT later seasons, I was robbed of my Manderly kino.
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From the moment Disney announced that Halle Bailey would star in a live-action remake of The Little Mermaid, racists have bitterly complained that a Black girl might play a fictional magic fish person on film. Because of course they have.
There are good reasons to be mad at this film, another in a series of unnecessary and by definition unoriginal remakes, about the virtues of a woman giving up her family and the very core of her being in order to land a man.
But casting isn’t one of them.
Alas, they wanna be where the white people are, and they’ve found an answer to their woes.
Multiple folks on Twitter immediately focused on the poster boiling down “woke” to just be a synonym for “Black,” a rare moment of pure honesty about what these folks really mean when they complain about it.
Sadly, my brain is permanently fried by years of legal practice so my takeaway was this:
You know, the lawyers who so zealously guard the company’s intellectual property they pretty much single-handedly broke the whole copyright regime to suit their own interests and who historically run to court against companies marketing altered versions of their films? Those folks.
You want thingamabobs? They’ve got 20! And in this sentence thingamabobs are causes of action for copyright and trademark infringement.
Even these live action remakes that no one asked for seem like a Hail Mary legal play to set up some backdoor claim that the substantially similar scripts used in the NEW movie — which gets a new copyright — might give them some limited leverage against future creators trying to work with the original story when it enters the public domain. It’s hard to shake the feeling that this is all part of a far-flung future brief that says, “We grant that Dumbo the 1941 film is public domain… but when the defendant’s work features this scene it is actually infringing our 2019 version of Dumbo.” This shouldn’t work and would make a mockery of the whole purpose behind keeping copyright protection limited, but… can’t fault them if they try.
Anyway, by all means try to sell a digitally altered version of a Disney movie and see what happens! They may just send Chip & Dale after overseas pirates, but trying to take the exact same movie, edit it for the benefit of the most insecure bigots on the planet, and then sell it back?
Disney will undoubtedly be watching the boards and waiting to bring the real legal firepower for that one.
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