https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/18s1z8u/our_game_cost_200000_and_we_only_made_10000
First, the context about what we were marketing: the game is called I See Red, it's a twin-stick shooter roguelite about a man in search of vengeance, with a noir aesthetic, tied into the actual gameplay and also the narrative, meaning the graphics style is not just a "it fits/looks cool" but is also both a game mechanic and is part of the plot as to why the game looks the way it does. This is the USP of the game.
$200k on a "twin-stick shooter roguelite with a noir aesthetic" i'm fricking dying
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Either they're doing it for free or you hired a bunch of
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The answer may shock you
Argentinians
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What were the Portuguese too modern and too expensive or something?
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The masonry simulator genre hasn't taken off on Steam yet.
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"old men watching construction and offering pointers" is an untapped gaming genre
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Thriving porno genre however.
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!macacos Argentino se fode com dinheiro novamente
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The person at the uni who decided to offer a βgame dev courseβ in Argentina is a master grifter wow.
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I had a client with a bunch of bangladeshi devs with some crazy investor budget and holy shit it was bad. First worlders might be way more money, but you can hire half of them and actually get technology that isn't 20 years old. I wound up quitting and was one of the only people paid in the end because I go for money and not "but muh trust with the nice client."
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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You can't work with foreigners and retain any illusion that all cultures are equal.
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They do say that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys
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It's not dramatic to mention it, but if you actually check the thread, they're students, and this was basically a school project that got turned into a commercial release. That alone actually explains a lot of what went wrong here, there's a lot of mistakes you'd probably not encounter in a proper dev studio.
The game itself looks ok enough, pretty mid but I'm also not into twin stick shooters or roguelites so idc.
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I saw twin stick shooter, rougelite, then plot and graphics as game mechanics and my brain turned off. There's an ocean of that crap already on steam
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These buttholes sold 2 years of work for 2$
They didn't even test their release build
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Gamedevs are actual idiots, like they will have 1-2 people on the "backend" for their system and then be surprised it barely functions.
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I wish I had 1-2 people on my backend, if you know what I mean (gay s*x).
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I don't get it, please go into more detail.
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This should make everything clear:
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I'm not a vet, but that turkey neck looks swollen.
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I keep trying to get my vet to look at it but she always throws me out.
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Imagine your game is so bad that you can't even pay a motherlover $10k to play it on video and pretend to not absolutely hate it.
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This is unironically how you get your small game out there these days. Your favorite Youtube videog*mer isn't sifting through the internet finding hidden gems to introduce to you, they take advertising money and then play it. Maybe they'll pretend it doesn't suck peepee.
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Nah, just tweet it at some low to mid level vtubers.
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You can always tell when these people get a streamer to play this and promote it. Asmongold goes from playing WoW all day to some shitty indie game, and g*mers are too stupid to understand how much money he just made on it. They keep saying he only streams on his unmonetized channel. lol God g*mer moids are so frickin dumb to realize he makes plenty without shitty Twitch subs.
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You're talking about teenagers, lol wtf do you expect
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Asmon has the Twitch boomers for fans because he plays WoW.
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They are absolutely children, mentally or literally.
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I don't think many kids watch asmon, but mentally yes. Watching Asmon have a meltdown is fun, and I have to admit his commentary on the Amber Heard case was hilarious. He had 450,000 people watching him at one point during that trial. It was insane.
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L
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Let me enjoy the amusement of a millionaire with rotting teeth and home where there is a hole in the roof and his room is a bed with c*m and blood on the walls.
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I remember this.
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That was the grossest part. Not even the rotting food in the kitchen beat that disgusting bedroom and the other streamers telling him it looked cozy instead of gross cuz he's the head guy for their paycheck lol
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I think he has functional depression, social anxiety and the worst one of all, growing up a Poor.
Hopefully he gets the good ending and some hot foid who actually cares about him comes into his life and fixes him.
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yeah, I was about to post that I think he's depressed too and likely will be extremely depressed at 40. This place makes fun of females for never getting married and having kids and then being sad, but men can go through a really depressed stage at 40 if they are unhappy. I think he's feeling older and would like to have a nice gf and such but has no motivation to fix things.
But like you said, the problem is intensified from his likely social anxiety. He has a ton of money so isn't fricked financially. Has celebrity on Twitch. Has a lot of what people want but is missing a whole nuther side of life that he probably would like to have but won't ever get if he doesn't get motivated to fix himself and his house.
Also, I notice it in xqc too. Xqc is trying desperately to stay cool with the 15 year old kids, but he's aging and hasn't let it go yet. Asmon at least has the boomers who can age and still watch him. Xqc is trying to remain relevant to kids that won't be interested in watching a 30 year old g*mer anymore trying to sound like he's 21.
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He really is living the dream eh?
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Blows my mind he doesn't take some of his money and at least fix his house. I can empathize with him wanting to stay in the house, but jfc fix it.
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asmon apparently has very good money saving instincts, which is rare for a poor who fell into fame, but the poor mindset is so engrained that any house he has is going to deteriorate into a borderline crack den with roaches and mold
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qrd?
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OTK has a Steak and Eggs podcast and Asmon did a walkthrough of his house. I'm sure you can find the vidya. As you can imagine, lots of streamers reacted to it. He shows the watcher where he sleeps. It's this room with nothing in it but a mattress and dirty sheets. If you look on the wall, it unironically looks like c*m and blood on the walls. It's disgusting.
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That's why bald gaming guy is based. He plays pretty much only shitty indie games.
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Fellow Northernlion stan????
He's the only streamer I watch lol he's so based I only wish him the best.
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Who
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Northernlion.
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SAP is great, r-slur strag b-word
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Most of his money apparently comes from youtube.
And the indie games didn't pay him shit.
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Dunno why anyone would pay Asmongold to market their game. He'll hype it up for a day, play it, get stuck because he's shit at games, and then spend the next two months pooping on it.
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Half of the youtube ad revenue goes to the editor I believe
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I don't believe much of what streamers say when it comes to these things. I feel like admitting to being paid to shove shitty indie games down their viewers' throats would be more headaches so they avoid it. Even xqc hasn't openly admitted that he only streams on Kick for his contract and likely he gets a bonus for a stream count when he does. He only gambles on Kick, so we all know that must be a part of his deal. He doesn't admit it though. Everyone assumes it, and they are probably right, but he has never come out and admitted it.
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Isnt gambling banned on twitch now?
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Yep.
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B-word wtf are you jabbering about?
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Idk I'm drunk what youuuuuuu doin
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Prove it: spend all your coins on something stupid
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More like Most Irrelevant Game
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I'm not even sure what that word's supposed to mean in this context
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Edgy atheism and other βacceptableβ rebellion
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Lmao
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!codecels is this smart?
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A lot of (stupid) codecels think that "staging" is just "dev" but deployed to the cloud
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I literally see staging domains cnanlme to production domains and staging to dev domains.
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sure if it's someone else's problem and I won't be required to fix it
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If it passes QA, then it's not my fault!
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Lol no
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Very dumb!
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Imagine not testing packaged shipping builds
This is r-slurred. Shipping-only bugs happen constantly.
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Its not noir though, its basic b-word scifi
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They just put a gray and white filter on it and called that noir
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Looks like it would have been pretty popular and successful if they'd worked a bit faster and released it for the Playstation in 1996 instead of for PC in 2022.
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They could have just slapped "PS1 style graphics " in the description and that might have boosted sales.
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what the frick is this a normal thing? testing a version of the game that isn't even going to be released?
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No, it's definitely not endemic to release untested software and fix issues in real time
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endemic? no one is talking about covid, assbutt.
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rDrama codecels do that, maybe they should git gud
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even the goys are full after eating enough "i draw bad graphic byt let me try and make it an easea aeas aestethic game"
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It's crazy how many developers and studios believe this nonsense. There's nothing aesthetic about your shitty game, it's not hollow knight. COD games have more artistic creativity than the 976th sidescrolling pixel art indie title.
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i'm still impressed that g*mers just flat out throw their money into a hole every single fricking chance they get
truly a spectacle
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This some bulletball shit
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I... I have b-bulletball
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This is some ancient knowledge you've posted
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BULLETBALL BULLETBALL THAT'S A BULLETBALL
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MAH POINT
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I saw the trailer. No way in heck I'm playing a game with only 3 colors.
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Jesus frickin christ $200k for a UNITY roguelite?
I thought for sure they must have built a bespoke engine or smth. Complete grift
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Depending on country that could be 3 developers for a year
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It's a unity roguelite people do this shit for free in their spare time.
Also even if it was the BEST roguelite ever, they would never earn the $200k back at a $2 pricepoint
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Why are they so afraid to do good game. Why, just chase gender trends.
Its like these peepees have no orginlatoughta
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I thought the entire purpose of game engines was to accelerate game development but it always seems like the engines are the source of 99% of issues game devs have. Truly an r-slured fricking industry.
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What else would have issues? The engine is the game. Unity has made game development accessible to the average codecel, and imo that's impressive
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it looks like a generic xb360 arcade game
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found the incel
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Those fiverr bills can really add up over time π imagine getting swindled this hard by some shit hole poor
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I think Jews is pretty cool. Eh wears small hats and doesn't afraid of walking places.
Snapshots:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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What I like most about this is that Superhot did the three color art style, with the same three colors even, and didn't look like shit. There was precedent on how to make it work!
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Posts like this remind me of this legendary piece of work: https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/ce7ipl/i_actually_feel_like_a_real_game_developer_now
I'd tell you to read it until the end but I can't figure out how to get an archive of it. It's not on wayback and reveddit isn't working. Actual legendary post oh my god. Does anyone know how to recover this?
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