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The forge was an influential rpg forum run by a weirdo pervert named Ron Edwards. He was a pretentious twat who said that vampire the masquarade caused brain damage.

https://lumpley.com/index.php/anyway/marginalia/3777

Originally it was started in 1999 as Hephaestus's forge.

https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ppmt00/tabletop_rpgs_the_fall_of_the_forge_how_a/

They discussed the design and making of tabletop rpgs and developed the gns theory or big model theory .

It's outlined here

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/_articles/system_does_matter.html

Forgeworld produced some great games like Apocalypse world and Dogs in the Vineyard which is Mormons fighting demons who want to molest children

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/binarydoubts/dogs-in-the-vineyard/

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/professorprof/dogs-in-the-vineyard/

but also bullshit like Bliss Stage which was made for demons who want to molest children

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/purplexvi/bliss-stage/

https://systemmasterypodcast.com/2019/04/08/bliss-stage-system-mastery-145/

It was essentially Neon Genesis Evangelion but not the Neon Genesis Evangelion of the anime or manga adaptions but the Neon Genesis Evangelion of the pornographic doujins found at every Japanese con.

https://old.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/353js6/bliss_stage/

That is not a link for those. Look up your own "Shinji chad " or "Shinji cuck" porn ya sick frick.

The Forge defined all players as wanting one of three things: narrativist, which wanted story, simulationist, who wanted realism, and gamist, who wanted to have fun and play the game. They hated the latter two and worshipped narrativism as the one true god.

Certain g*mers compared it to an evil cancer or a cult

https://verbus.livejournal.com/1649.html

The Forge was controversial even when it was still going

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads%2Ftell-me-about-the-forge.355613%2F

Here is the Forge in all its glory

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/articles/20/

Osr or "old school roleplaying" is another weird rpf cult that is either diametrically opposed or partially overlapping with the Forge

https://livingmythrpg.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/rpg-theory-living-myth-vs-forge-theory/

Ron Edwards compared gms running railroady games to child abuse.

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/archive/index.php?topic=18707.0

The forge closed in 2010

https://stargazersworld.com/2010/11/03/the-end-of-the-forge/

Reaction was mixed

https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-forge.159851/

Ron Edwards claimed it had fulfilled its purpose.

https://indie-rpgs.com/archive/index.php?topic=25257.msg244501#msg244501

He was coping

Many fans and detractors still exist and still hate it

https://www.wizardthieffighter.com/2019/a-bad-turn-of-words-fantasy-heartbreaker/

https://refereeingandreflection.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/remembering-the-forge/

My own thoughts on their theory is that it's far too narrow. Every player has his own agenda that might include aspects of all three and other motives. It's a radical simplification of a hopelessly complicated muddle. Most of the forge alumni agree.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200118080825/http://www.story-games.com/forums/discussion/20273/the-big-model-rip

Also while Ron Edwards is an butt he's not a male feminist and didn't make a game for male feminists about playing a male feminist . Unlike Black Hat Matt Mcfarland and Beast the primordial. How can you hate Ron Edwards or Byron Hall, the author of fatal the worst rpg ever made,

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/315746/fatal-and-kiwifarms-a-match-made

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/169760/review-of-fatal-rpgnet-rpg-game

when neither of them are actual male feminists?

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/314992/beast-the-primordial-good-lord-above

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/273950/beast-the-primordial-is-the-game

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/272482/reddit-dive-into-beast-the-primordial

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/271029/what-did-people-actually-want-from

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/223552/beast-the-primordial-is-a-bad

https://rdrama.net/post/109832/fresh-beast-the-primordial-on-tg

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/200508/beast-the-primordial-or-trans-lives

https://rdrama.net/post/32502/4chan-daicusses-beast-the-primordial-the

The best link in this post is these two:

https://rdrama.net/post/23466/beast-the-primordial-is-terrible-or

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/255495/fatal-friends-review-btp-books-whitewolfrpg

Live by social justice die by social justice

https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/lugcr3/tabletop_rpg_the_tragic_ballad_of_adam_koebel_the/

A forge alumni learned this lesson far too late.

Let that be a lesson to you all: be a chud.

Vivek literally got rich by doing a rug pull on the stock market using his mom’s medical certificates to push a fake drug.

Vivek and his entire family are leeches on our country. They should be DEPORTED back to India. https://t.co/0n2hI0ckrE

— Right Wing Cope (@RightWingCope) December 27, 2024

will Rid the website of this scourge inshallah

begin pumping gas into /h/bharat immediate

It's always weird seeing seeing the takes of anti-g*mer gaters or progressives/liberals.

If I personally had made any sincere attempts to try and portray or dictate the events of GG neutrally, I'd attempt to recount that the initial events of the slut dev (forgot who) sleeping with reviewers for favourable reviews and preferential treatment.

By 2014 much of gaming had grown exponentially since 2004, blin terms of the amount of g*mers playing on earth, the size and scope and budgets of AAA publishers began to compete with Hollywood, and subsequently the opportunity for corruption along with it.

In South Africa, we had a magazine called NAG (New Age Gaming) which became the topmost gayming hardcopy magazine in the country ( and pretty much the entire Southern Africa)

For the entirety of my high school, NAG dominated and influenced gayming discussion, and the writers there were even names you'd recognize, perhaps less because of their quality and more so the poor and (technologically) behind nature of Safrica.

Yet by the time I graduated highschool in 2012, things would go bad for NAG, the internet and proliferation of independent websites and Content Creators, meant competition on a scale yet unheard of for journ*lism of all stripes

YouTube would balloon to become the premier video site on the planet, and every year internet 🛜🛜🛜 would become incrementally cheaper - to the point that fricking even the lowest poorest strata of society could afford/access the web from Phone plans/contracts

Thus the internet, and places which consumed large amounts of broadband, like YouTube, would become exponentially more accessible. This doesn't even talk of the proliferation of smartphones, and thus browsers into the hands of non PC tech nerds, as it was just 10 years earlier in 2004

As an example in 2012, when I began my studies at UCT, I was exposed to the shocking privilege of one whole fricking gigabyte of broadband per student! for non-university websites!!! The year before I had been still used to the moderate but expensive 650megabytes of internet at the expensive (for rural strags) R600 per month for our family computer 🖥️💻, shared for the whole family house, and in which I had often gotten into massive trouble cuz I had used up the family broadband for gayming torrents before the end of the month

By 2014, the average student had uncapped WiFi at UCT, though at slow speed, and by 2020 fiber internet trails were being laid into the ground of every major city of the country.

I recall back even in highschool, there had become less and less trust towards the writers of NAG magazine, there had been internet mailed, which the editor actually was brave enough to post in the Letters-from-readers pages, to defend his team back in 2010, when had had been accused of giving large games (the concept of AAA wasn't something I was familiar with at the time) preferential treatment,

By giving soft criticisms towards obvious junk (slop), whilst lesser gaming studios or publishers never got the same treatment. Even IRL discussions for me in high school there were shockingly mature in hindsight suspicions of the now largest and most established journ*lists publishings on earth like IGN and Eurog*mer, having had a "grassroots conspiracy" of brining indepenant journ*lists with vouchers/trips/holidays with the unspoken understanding that unfavorable reviews would not result in repetition of these gifts or even review copies.

There was all sorts of logical (as well as batshit) theorising of whether journ*lism was being infected with corruption and financial conspiracy.

I'm going on this MASSIVE tangent to demonstrate to you guys, that even in 3rd-Worldistan of Safrica, even before fricking 2010, and even for the fricking local national magazine there had started the embers of suspicions for Gaming Journ*lism having a lack of integrity!!!!

Because we started noticing CODslop and other AAA publisher titles gaining collectively more obvious preferential treatment, even though as far as my memory served COD as a franchise was still good? For as long as till like the mid 2010s.

Point being there was a definite feeling of distrust brewing between ground level poorcel g*mers, even in backwards places. And this was a a distrust completely entangled with regards to Journ*lists-and-Publishsher parasitic financial relationships exclusively! The very notion of American culture war being infused with distrust towards journ*lists would not begin until way after 2014

On the other hand, vast majority of gaymers are sheep who literally seldom question reviewers, let alone read beyond the review score, or are such Uber normies, they literally walk into a brick and mortar gayming/tech store and buy the shiniest game on the shelf, without question ⁉️ ❓ and has probably never read a review in their life.

So it's always insane to me when Reddit types, you know the kind, the turbo wokescolds progressives, who deny that Wokeness is not even a real thing or even a definable concept, who go out of their way to oppose whaever the chud group opposes, the /r/gaming circlejerk types,

when Reddit types espouse that the very notion of Journ*lism being corrupt, or that there could ever have or has ever been an extreme lack of integrity from the gaming Journ*list Industry .

Look into the thread I linked, complete denial of the very existence of corruption of Journos, that @VFiddly cute twink states that all of what the initial G*merGate complained about never happened.....and wait what?

Like if you're the type of liberal like @QuadNarca here on rdrama.net, and you believe that GG pretty early got coopted by sexists and and fiends from the onset, I can agree with that. That the initial spurt of momentum of GG which was sparked by the slut Dev's bribery, and the subsequent conspiracy of the near entire Western Anglosphere journ*list industry simultaneously pushing out his pieces, all of that rendered irrelevant to the exposure of the ugly side of gaymers,

that would be a sensible and fair take. But to claim NONE of the initial G*merGate complaints of corruption in Journ*lism or the paracitical relationship of Publishers and Journ*lists was never warranting attention, is actual insanity. I'd even go as far as to say it's a pretty extreme stance.

Anyways none of that matters, Journ*lists literally wrote themselves out of relevance. Very few peeps have organizational or institutional trust in Gaming Journ*lists, or even the largest Gaming News online sites like IGN and Eurog*mer.

What was suspicions and a conspiracy theory about the lack of integrity of Journos, have become the literal norm for gaymers here in safrica, and I presume from the state of online discussions, the same can be said for the rest of the world.

I once came back to my home town in 2015 to look for the NAG magazine and could not find it at the magazine shelves in any shop. I would learn they had stopped printing by 2014, and had downsized to only a skeleton crew for the online articles.

YouTube by 2014 was large enough for independent personalities to make an audience, and I guess in the modern era, it's each g*mer strag's responsibility to find whatever reviewers you trust most, or whose taste most closely aligns with your own. Cuz, you sure as shit can't trust Gaymer Journos, the lowest form of Journos on earth.

As a bit of tiny good/neutral news NAG appears to still exist in Safrica, and makes a few articles every month, some of actually ok. It appears some of the survivors of 12 years ago managed to accumulate a small loyal following.

what do you Dramatards think?

Somebody do the effort for me and find the Juicy slap fighting, I'm on farm a d can't really link on phone

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1. "Asked a girl to prom and she laughed at me"

2. "a guy once offered to give me $10 not to kiss me..."

3. "I was bullied by girls so much as a child, my self-confidence is ruined..."

4. "chick I dated said I imagined us together... but as a joke"

5. black guy gives a short history of his time as a kid "are you neurodivergent?"

6. "just hit the gym they said... just become successful they said..."

7. "invited girl to movie, she didn't turn up, saw post online with her and her ex-boyfriend, the next day her front tire blew on the highway... had nothing to do with me..."

8. "when I was 15, I got laughed at for asking for help against me girlfriend who was abusing me"

9. "a teacher I had a crush on called me an r-slur"

10. "you guys probably stunk..." "nothing compared to your unwashed micro peen" "weak non sequitur"

not much drama at first

some actual flga strag discussion about colour theory or something

symbols used by evil people are OBJECTIVELY bad

the Orange in the Indian flag represents Bharat racism, except absolutely UNIRONICALLY

some brave chuds farm downmarseys

"Yes it is" "No it isn't"

https://old.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/1hdybyq/does_it_look_better/m1zqnja/?context=8

"Firstly I for one would compare the Apartheid flag to the confederate flag or Rhodesian flag neither of which are appropriate. Furthermore, both the Union Jack and rising flag should be seen as problematic and I'm glad you agree with that." "The BritBong flag is raping meeeeee"

miraculously even some circlejerk gets counterjerked against the usual Vexilloligy Intellectual shitlibs which equates symbolism of historically abhorrent regimes/nation-states/movements to be automatically abhorrent

https://old.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/1hdybyq/does_it_look_better/m1zpdij/?context=8

Anyways the weird things in all of these tiresome debates and slapfights, is that virtually zero safricans are ever involved with these flag MEDIA LITERACY and/or the denial of association with past atrocities/Apartheid connotations ect.

It's very difficult to explain, but trust me you can instantly pick up on the speaking patterns, lexicon and terminology with regards to how Safricans usually have internet slapfights - of of this shit you've seen is exclusively foreigners/westoids/yanks - be they performative shitlibs or Eurocuck Stormfronters utilizing Boers as a proxy for whatever pan-white racial international brotherhood whatever.

1st, actual Boers/Afrikaners, the actual turbo giga-chuds, would never ever utilize this

for pan-Afrikaans cultural celebration or whatever. The green Y symbol is already a racial-harmonious symbol in meaning, and the Black/Yellow stripe is explicitly african in connotation, as well as a call-back to the ANC (African National Congress) early symbolism. The Modern Safrica flag was explicitly chosen by the Mandela Administration to be a blending of previous Eueropean and african symbolism, whilst deliberately excluding symbolism of the Union of SA (the Apartheid State) flag characteristics.

Back in early 2000s internet, when the early web was not so sanitized, and linkrot would not claim like 75% of the internet, and old forums could still exist, including many many Stormfront and actual Boer supremacy sites - the vast majority despised the Y-green stripe symbolism, and conflated it to an Assegai (the signature short stabbing spear of Zulus/Xhosas/Swazi peeps) busy raping/stabbing the old Transvaal flag (which was the much more dominant between the two historic Boer republics)

https://zuluwarstore.com/en-za/products/iklwa-zulu-war-assegai

So that the modern flag was basically being R*PED by BBC Like i'm not joking or lying, this was the dominant discussion for afrikaans teenage white supremacists on the pre-4chan dustlands of the internet, as small as it was in the early 2000s, and would continue to do so.

Thus any replication of the modern by just replacing the colour from red to orange, would not have been done by boers, and was instead, strangely enough done by foreign Stormfronters, not grasping the already pan-racial unity symbolism of the rest of the flag.

Additionally there had been a few adult discussions for using the orange coded flag for afrikaans, but that was a great rarity

https://www.fotw.info/flags/za!afrik.html

like if you read the above fotw article, you'll be under the impression that this "Afrikaner" flag was a large movement, when in reality it was small, unpopular, and with even the majority of Boers being completely ambivalent. In reality it was some last ditch, Boer giga-boomer vexilloligy neurodivergents having a hobby thought experiment

Long boring point, there has never been a real threat of resurge of such symolism.... especially when the actual South African brainless white supremacists with no self-preservation would just fly or parade the Union flag as it was.

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On the opposite side, the shitlibs who foam at the mouth for evil WRONGTHINK racist symbology, you know the kind of fools who take 4chan bait of OK and milk drinking as fricking subterfuge attempts of conveying coded Mayo supremacy between racists, is a very Westoid yank shit type of purity secular type religiosity

similar to Christian Soccor moms, trying to out purity each other, by demonstrating how they got rid of Rock-and-Roll, Pokemon and Harry Potter from their household cuz that shit is Satanic - it's all very performative - to the extent that these progressives brainwash themselves into fricking believing the colour ORANGE is itself racist, not because of any local connections to their home country, but simply because their purity spiral on the /r/vexillology sub has reached it extreme conclusion, so that just because the Apartheid South African regime had orange within its flag, it automatically means frickin all orange colours on all flags must be associated with chuddery

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Additionally the lexicon of of these obvious, white, western, upper-middle class is NOT that of black Safrican peeps, whom often do have real-world reasonable and unreasonable beef with white safricans, and especially afrikaners - the fact that many afrikaners racists do in fact try to find ways in which to transmit racism against blacks without being caught, such as in schoolyard poems, songs, jokes and lymrics. Many very unsubtle

The racial tension is also much so between black and white peeps in Safrica, that ill feeling in the air, in meetings can be cut with a butterknife. Uncomfortable associations like black manual labourers sitting behind a pick-up truck, while whites sit in front can lead to friction, regardless if there's cause for that. Example if i work on my father's farm, we are often so dirty that only the designated driver sits in front, because we've worked with pitch-coated wooden beams, and our hands are covered in sticky residue, and thus I and the black labourers in in the back, until we reach the tap and soaping point - but it often enough occurs that it's only my father (who has to do the driving), and the black men with their gloves sit in the back - a Speedcop/Traffic-cop might take out his ire on my father, replicating the behaviour of Apartheid era bosses, who never let 2nd -class blacks sit within, or the front for any reason, because of their inferior status.

Because of this, a large amount of racism afrikaans humour revolves around being in a superior/inferior status in life depending upon whether you sit in front or the back of the Bakkie - and blackcoloured peeps are certainly aware of such, there is no need for coded flags.

Additionally when black liberals talk about latent afrikner racism they don't talk like fricking redditors and call each other "Media illiterates", or use "context and connotation" or "inconvenient symbolism" - black liberals are much more blunt when they tend to describe safrican white racism, it's difficult to convey.

!africans