I remember the first time I heard this 20 years ago and it still makes me sad

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it's amazing how people will shill terrible design choices like this, and then project that you are being a special snowflake for wanting beauty and consistency in your art. (86)

What makes it a terrible design choice. Women who are mma fighters look like this and she is supposed to be a badass so why wouldn't she look like this. Also it's fiction and the way they look is constantly changing why would you compare for just her when the Witcher himself has changed drastically over the games (-25)

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Still ignoring my point of Geralt being 100 years old but doesn't look like his facial features have changed (besides the hair) yet Ciri is the exception I suppose? (6)

Have you seen what Geralt looked like in Witcher 1? His face changes every game 🤣 (-6)

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I think people are getting way too caught up with small differences in a cinematic trailer. Geralt looked different in TW3 cinematic trailers. Heck, he looked extremely different on a game to game basis...https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fb6v7kyeebl6e1.pnghttps://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fciri-from-the-witcher-4-reveal-trailer-v0-pj8n7j3gml6e1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6d144b369afc36a63315b8d8291a26534520c22aFrom other angles, she looks pretty darn similar to me...like you can't tell me she doesn't look like herself in these shots. People are hyper focusing on some weird shots that were meant to be high fidelity but ended up uncanny, and proceeding to catastrophize.Game is years away and CDPR probably didn't even make this trailer. Calm your tits. (39)

People getting hung up on bullshit like cheekbones.The core issue is that a bunch of dudes don't necessarily want to roleplay as a woman. I don't think there's anything toxic about that.Action movies' and video games' main customer is dudes. It can work ... but it's a risky move to create a video game and/or action movie that doesn't cater to your main customer base. If design decision 1 is "let's make it harder for our our primary customer base to engage with our main protagonist", it may be worth considering if that decision is worth the risk. (-8)

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That's not lying. That is not by any means what lying is, nor am I lying. If you want a breakdown of the witcher series I can not tell you much besides It started as a book series, then it got taken in for games, and the games went like this1 was good2 was considered bad3 at launch was mixed but after a few patches to fix some issues people had it overall became the best one.The first 3 games lead into geralts full conclusion with ciri being established as a possible follow up to geralt.Comes witcher 4 which was now announced, and ciri is older. Witcher fans KNEW ciri had potential to be the new lead and she became all powerful with her magic. Now she is a supposed witcher and everyone wants to know how. And people are having mixed feelings on her looks, but not really cause this is the first time I have seen this sentiment show up.We been past that topic man, you seem a little lost. Want to sit down and talk slower about it?Edit: it is very abundant you are a troll or someone who i... (2)

How to lie with statistics. Using misleading data sets is one of the first methods.Oh so you don't actually know? How unexpected.I can vouch for the fact that I think her looks are fine. The assertion they "uglified" her is absurd and can be tossed out of hand for its absolute absurdity. I suspect those goofballs are only being used as a weak man (strawman's little cousin) as attempt to cover up the real gripe ... guys don't choose to roll female characters when they have the option not to. Stands to reason they might not buy the game because it's not an option.But you still haven't explained it to me. So I'll keep asking until you do. Why does not preferring to roll a female character in an RPG indicate a lack of empathy?I am not trolling at all. I'm having an open/transparent discussion. I'm merely pointing out all the dishonest accusations and bullshit you're trying to pin on me. There's no reason to get so upset over someone merely disagreeing with you. You stretching so hard to... (1)

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No one says "who cares" to someone and not expect it to be taken offensively. If you find that to be a perfectly sound, civil answer, then I must say you really are the kind of person you're being accused of being, and any further discussion with you would only serve as more evidence.So let's chat, shall we?What's your problem with her reply? Why did it upset you so?You have received exactly zero attacks before I descended upon you sword in my hand. You did dish a few out yourself, though, and plenty of accusations, especially regarding other people's presumed feelings. It seems you really do believe that your opinions are factual. So, you not only seem to lack empathy, but you also don't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.And besides, I don't care about you enough to become upset. That doesn't mean I won't call you whatever I believe you are. For me, calling people out for their true selves and watching them writhe in refusal is a twisted form of entertainment. And you don't ... (1)

Attack my stance with dishonesty, personal attacks, and/or snippiness and I have no qualms returning the favor.There's no correlation with empathy and what kind character you prefer to roll for a RPG video game. Duh? Implying otherwise is nothing more than toxicity with intent to sow divisiveness. Ironic huh.I was accused of being weird and lacking empathy many times in this thread.That has been the core question from the start. You and the other jackasses in here have been trying to manipulate it into something else from the start. You get upset when I point out your manipulation.You seem oblivious that they do care. At the end of the day ... if this was your only gripe with my post... we would've acknowledged our difference of opinion/speculation and moved on with 0 hostility. That's how adult conversations work.This thread only got hostile once the accusations and personal attacks (toxicity, lack of empathy) were launched. (1)

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I'm one who probably won't buy the game on day one. I doubt I'm literally the only person on earth who feels this way. My purchase is at risk. For context ... this is one of my favorite gaming series (only 2nd behind Mass Effect) that I've played since W1 in 2007.It's anecdotal ... as someone who's played RPGs in various forms for decades, it's hard to not notice that most people roll characters of their own gender when given the option. Take away that option ... and there's a risk folks will be less inclined to buy the game.You should be aware ... saying there's a risk doesn't imply any specific outcome is inevitable. So I'm not entirely certain what you think I'm here to "prove". (1)

I mean, I won't either, but my reasoning is that I simply don't trust in any game's quality before seeing plenty of reviews from actual players. Is your reasoning primarily centered around Ciri being the protagonist? It has to, otherwise it wouldn't really serve as a point in this argument.Except that the literally don't. Girls tend to roll male character more often than you think, and it's a pretty well known mantra among guys that they'd rather watch a girl's butt for 100 hours of gameplay. You're ignoring everything but your own experience. Which makes for a rather weak argument.Fine, I'll give you a hint. Prove to me that games in the past have achieved less success for the sole reason of having a female protagonist. The important part being "for the sole reason". Failing while woman is not enough, you gotta show to me that it failed because of woman. Cause, you know, if you claim there is a risk, there must be precedent to warrant that risk. Obvious, isn't it? (1)

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The article:

The comments are full of alcoholic boomers in denial, furiously ing and ing:

A lot of these guys seem like they have quite serious alcohol addictions.

This is the classic Daily Mail alcohol "gotcha" - completely ignoring that if you're an alcoholic then you'll die 20 years earlier and in severe pain after decades of poor health.

These are all upmarseyd and all aside from 1 pro-ban comment is downvored, idk what they're putting in the slop but it's turning the !goyslopenjoyers into !chuds

Are there even X links posted to this sub? I did a quick look and couldn't find any

No there are not, but it wont stop people from downmarseying you.

I heard that Musk was so upset about r/stupidfood blocking X that he changed his mind and is now Jewish.

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Its virtue signaling. Ppl like being part of the mob. Makes them feel like they're part of something. I agree with you. Don't need a policy for it. It's laughable. Ppl take themselves too serious over the internet. We're taking about stupid foods here.

The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi

You're not doing anything by going around Reddit saying nazis are bad. I know it probably feels like you're in the streets punching Nazis whenever you post these comments but you're just being obnoxious and come off as a virtue signaling weirdo.

Lame. This shit is killing Reddit. Here's a newsflash - China invested in Reddit and they have actual slaves. So, be consistent and ban yourself or sit down.

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Frick off. We all know this is some political bullshit that would be forgotten in 5 minutes if people could just stop whining for that long.

And of course, the mod's response:

Way ahead of you, we're just finding the best way to go about that

Civilization 4 week draws to a close and it has successfully gotten me to waste my weekend and procrastinate on a bunch of work !g*mers

We're playing the turboneurodivergent Dawn of Civilization mod that replicates world history. Part 1 Part 2

104AD, the Roman Empire is around it's historic peak. We have completed 2/3 of the Historic Victory Conditions, just recently securing the necessary territorial borders for Pax Romana, so we're in a 24 turn Golden Age

There are still some barbarian cities in Africa and Iberia, remnants of the Carthaginian Empire we might as well go take. Persia also controls Mesopotamia and Turkey, so these aren't true Trajanian borders but we're kinda close!!

For a Historic Victory we just need to research a couple more technologies first.

The Pagan Religious Victory is losing viability. We have 22 cities, 4 of which in Egypt and the Levant have Judaism, and Christianity (Orthodoxy) has been founded and started to spread to the Roman Empire. Pagan Temples are disappearing.

Brennus of the Celts is still alive, they live in Ireland. Their core moves from Gaul to Ireland following the Gallic conquests, so they aren't at risk of collapse. They could capitulate but they're worthless. We could wait for them to be willing to offer tribute but they are poor and underdeveloped as shit. We'll offer peace.

We can even offer charity to improve relations and advance them from being such disgusting backwards savages. We'll probably have to help them out a lot. Such is the Roman Man's Burden.

There are a couple peaceful tribal villages around the British Isles, our scouts can explore them for a bonus (a military unit runs the risk of angering them and spawning barbarians). Did I mention how much Civ5 fricking sucks? In Civ5 these are "Ancient Ruins". Why are there ruins? You start at the beginning of human civilization, you play through the ancient times! Are they ruins of the 12000BC Magic Kingdom of Zeal? I'll bet they changed it for cultural sensitivity or some weak shit like that.

The villagers give me a warrior. I name them the Britbong Warriors. Did you know in Civ5 you also can only name units when they are promoted? What an r-slured design choice. That game fricking sucks. You can't even draw on the map either.

Anyway, the above events are depicted here:

Christianity (Orthodoxy) has spread to Rome and the people are all pissed off about it, particularly because we have the Religion civic "Deification". It's past time for some government restructuring.

Unfortunately, unlike in vanilla, changing civics in a Golden Age is not free. Fortunately, unlike Rhyes and Fall, anarchy does not consume Golden Age turns. We just put our Golden Age on hold for a little while.

This will take some thinkorinoing

In addition to the bonuses, we want to have super strong stability. Around 290AD the Eastern Roman Empire will fracture off if we don't have Solid stability. CHEERS to @RWBY for informing me of that this is preventable btw.

Certain civic combos have synergy/negative synergy and when we start to approach the Medieval age some civics will lose stability for being obsolete.

Religion

We need to move from Deification 100%. Syncreticism would be dumb because we don't have a lot of religions available, and it's incompatible with Citizenship. Clergy is the obvious answer, although we don't have a State Religion yet, we will soon.

Economy

Redistribution is awful at this point with 22 cities and will soon be obsolete. Merchant Trade is much more lucrative.

Territory

I am still running the primitive default "Kinship" here and it is very embarrassing. I would have benefited from taking the anarchy hit to run one of these earlier. Same with Merchant Trade. I kinda forgot about my civics tbh I'm actually bad at this game

Thalassocracy is better with all the fishing boats we have around the Mediterranean, and has strong synergy with Merchant Trade.

Legitimacy

This is still all we've got available for now.

Government

Monarchy is very good and better than Republic majority of the time but we have more fishing boats than farmland right now and free specialists during a Golden Age will get us more Great People. Republic also has strong synergy with Citizenship. Elective sucks, I don't get the point of it.

Despotism will go obsolete I think, but the whip (population rush) is king. It will allow us to speed up building infrastructure (particularly jails and religious buildings we'll be getting soon) and allow us to control overextension (reducing population outside the Italian core). We're going to continue running it.

Soyciety

Slavery has positive synergy with Despotism, but both will go obsolete soon. Switching one more civic here will save a turn of anarchy later, so it's worth considering changing something now. We have more pastures than quarries/plantations and no longer have a lot of opportunities to capture workers, plus lots of undeveloped land, so changing to Manorialism might be a good idea. Unfortunately it has negative stability synergy with Merchant Trade . If the Eastern Roman Empire split weren't a concern, it would be worth it to just take the hit. Caste System has positive synergy with Clergy, but we can't benefit much from it. We'll just stick with Slavery for now and save a turn of anarchy for later.

Hindsight Fun Fact: This might've been the wrong decision. Slavery it turns out is the only civic that becomes outdated. Switching to Caste System now would have been better and helped with a plague later. Not sure when Despotism becomes outdated

Final: Despotism/Citizenship/Slavery/Clergy/Thalassocracy

120AD, during the revolution, Catholicism is founded in Roma. We of course will embrace it once our government restructuring is over.

The revolution is over, and the reformed Catholic Roman Empire returns to work Look at how rich Greece's coast is No way I'm letting that shit become Byzantine Although it's still Orthodox over there

The Religious victory available is now the Catholic Religious Victory. Being "Pope" means being the head of the Apostolic Palace, which in base game is basically the medieval U.N.

Great Prophet Petrus is born in Athens 200AD. Now that I have Roma as the holy city of Catholicism I can found the holy shrine wonder - Saint Peter's Basilica (which doubles as the Apostolic Palace from base game). I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to build the holy shrine yet but holy crap this is TOO perfect.

Our stability is still Solid. The "Foreign" stability is the only kicker for "Bad Relations". Pretty much always in DoC I have "bad relations" because half the world has a different religion and everyone is pissed off about something. One of the weakest areas in Civ4 is diplomacy, and the tendency for foreign leaders to come by constantly whining and asking for shit with a -1 penalty when you refuse is unfortunately common. I've heard trying to entertain this whining can improve Foreign stability.

For example, a few turns back the King of Aksum (Ethiopia) kept coming by trying to pull me into his irrelevant ooga booga conflict with the Nubian Kingdom of Kush. Typically I click "no go away" without hesitation and just accept the -1, but it may have been advisable to just annihilate Kush for these savages instead. Moving forward I will actually consider entertaining the requests of these lesser rulers, within reason.

And hey, why not join the Aksum war? Nubia is pretty lucrative land, and I now have spies to check up on their defenses. It's conquerable and I still have several soldiers and artillery from the Egyptian conquests stationed here. I may consider gearing up for a small invasion.

Speaking of spies, I'm able to look at Persia a little. They can research Machinery, one of the technologies required for the third victory condition.

But when I apply some espionage to them I can see that they're currently researching Fortification - nothing to worry about yet. We have a strong military advantage too, but I'm still going to leave them alone.

We can put this espionage to good use thoughever. Our spies can't do much right now, but they can pilfer the Persian treasury a little. Dawn of Civilization has an expanded espionage mod that provides a full promotion tree for spies, and "Great Spies" from the original game are now generated like "Great Generals". You can see the counter for both Great Spies and Great Generals at the top. If we want to survive past Medieval times we will need espionage. New civilizations are intentionally placed at an advantage so it is near necessary to use espionage to even the odds. Now is a good time to start gaining espionage experience.

Dorylaion, the city Darius founded on top of the independent Greek city he destroyed is the most efficient place to send spies to, mainly because if it's proximity to Byzantion and Roman cultural influence. I was annoyed about this at first, but it will prove to be useful now, we can send spies from Byzantion easily and gain experience. Khosrow will catch a few and it will further piss him off and hurt our Foreign stability, but

If we crank up our espionage and settle a spy there for a while we could even steal a technology.

Notice we can see inside the city now (though Fog of War is only cleared with the research of Electricity in RfC)

Also, with our Citizenship civic we have a fun little gimmick where we can have spies bribe Barbarian units.

290AD is approaching. We're still at Solid, but teetering a little close. Foreign sucks of course. We've lost some ships to barbary pirates and this has messed up our military stability . I'm building my warships in Rome now so they can get a boost from the Flavian Ampitheater to prevent any more of this. Fortunately, we're still booming and expanding, but we're very close to the overextension point and need to start concentrating on making sure our core population is higher than the population outside. Despotism is great for this because we can just whip all the extra population away. Domestic is lower than usual because Slavery is now outdated - if needed, we can change this to Caste System to take advantage of a further boost from it's compatibility with Clergy.

We just have to hope nothing unexpected could tank our economy...

Oh frick. While exploring the far east I discover a plague in India.

Oh God it's spreading west

AAAA FRICK

We are hit with a Certified Hood Classic Plague from the East. On the plus side this will help cull our population and reduce overextension. This is a pretty shitty plus because I could've just whipped neighbors. The downside is our economic development will suffer. This is a justifiable time to invade the Nubians for their lucrative mines and please the Ethiopians (Aksum). I think maybe annihilating a civilization will also reduce Foreign stability penalties (cuz they're dead). I hope that's how it works. Nobody really likes them at least, so I won't get a "You declared war on our friend!" penalty.

The Nubian conquest is slightly riskier than anticipated because the plague is weakening our troops. The highest promoted crack troops are affected worst so the benchwarmers have to step up.

This ungrateful prick is still Annoyed at me, but now that we're in a mutual war he's willing to open borders. After destroying the Kingdom of Kush I can spread missionaries and bring Aksum into the Catholic fold. Maybe I'll have to supply some resources and technologies too. Truly, I am Atlas, carrying the rest of the world on my soldiers

On that note, frick the Irish Celts too. Even after generously trying to pull them out of the Stone Age they're still all pissed off and probably contributing to the Foreign stability penalty, plus there's still some angry citizens in Paris wanting to rejoin them. They can't join shit if Brennus is dead.

The Germanic barbarians are starting to swarm. We take some losses - this is bad. Barbarian losses negate stability. Using the Citizenship ability to bribe barbarians with spies actually comes in handy.

We're so far ahead technologically that I found Islam just for the heck of it. Waset in Egypt becomes it's holy city. The Arabs (Mohammed) will still spawn and attempt to spread Islam by sword but they've been cucked out of the benefits of Mecca as a holy city.

The Kingdom of Kush/Nubia is conquered. But they're still alive for some reason?!? I have no idea where their last city is.

We send a missionary to spread Catholicism to Aksum but crankypants is still only "Cautious" and isn't ready to convert as a state religion. Hopefully when it spreads to his second city he'll join the fold. Once another leader is Catholic the Apostolic Palace/Saint Peter's Basilica will be able to hold diplomatic conventions.

336AD, the Golden Age has ended. We are no longer insanely propserous, and our stability is wavering. We've lost some battles to barbarians and are suffering war weariness for the invasion of Kush. For one positive "Foreign" has gone from -5 to -4, so I guess helping out Aksum and destroying the Celts might've worked. "Domestic" is down because of outdated civics (Slavery) and Religious Disunity (Catholicism is not in cities with Orthodox, Judaism, and Islam). Next time we may have change the Slavery civic and spread Catholicism to the Eastern world.

The Eastern Empire is still ours however. We apparently avoided the Byzantine schism. So mission accomplished

I hope. I can't find this in the code and don't know how it works Some guy on the CivFanatics forum said if you pass 290AD you're good but he was also taking photographs of his monitor instead of taking screenshots. To be safe I'll try to stay in Solid stability as long as I can.

We only have one more technology (Civil Service) for the Historic Victory, so we might as well just win the game too.

()

But frick that! I want a Space victory.

I'm going to reload and intentionally stall researching Civil Service until I fail.

Next game, the scheduled decline of the Roman Empire begins. We attempt to defy history and go to medieval times and beyond.

Next:

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Wait nvm, it's just a framework lol

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Orange Site:

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!foidmoment

!asians

Please destroy reddit inshallah

Our boi Scot narrating this cuck saga

This b-word is literally a redditor. Used to extend respect til I figured it out. Basically british bardfinn

Giving away condoms makes us popular

We may not have high speed rail but at least we have rap

Black people are cool

More censorship please

Trump is so dumb he's gonna do this tarded thing bc I don't like him

Long covid is real actually

What a life

This is all from the past day, she literally can't stop poooooosting

Double digit posts daily for four years. Basically a crack addict. At least she pays aevann's bills

Conclusion:

!nooticers !metashit

>the very backbone of American government, the HR of all HR ...

You, working honestly

Government KING clicking delete on a legitimate email (most work xhe's done this week)

They're too nice

Smartest fed

Dipshit deep dive!

Meet /u/aqua410, Baltimore bureaucrat par excellence

Given the area code and how much she loves her sassy black woman gifs, you'd think she's one herself...

Besides not knowing how to google "metadata", she's doesn't know FB owns whatsapp:

Or why people don't just hack Elon Muskrat out of existence

Life is hard for a black woman in tech

She makes up for that small lapse by being extremely knowledgeable on laws:

Early life

Jews take great pride in being מאמינים בני מאמינים "believers, the sons of believers" - an unbroken lineage of faith in and loyalty to G-d from the times of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Similarly, this middle aged mammy is unfireable, the daughter of unfireables:

Sadly, they're not supportive enough of her having to... go back to work

She shuffles around lazily between agencies

Deleting every email she doesn't like

Pooping up everything she touches

Unfortunately, the country will fall apart if we can't reach her after 3:30 pm

Weigh in!

Which of the following metaphors best describes the role of HR in an organization?

• backbone

• visceral fat

• metastasized stage 4 lymphoma

Trench crusade is doomed

BREAKING: Ross Ulbricht has been pardoned by President Donald Trump

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If you don't know who Ross is

FREEDOM!!

FREEDOM!!!! pic.twitter.com/itRuuyFAxe

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Bonnie Blue, known for sleeping with 1,057 men in under 24 hours is reportedly pregnant pic.twitter.com/w1Pv3aSARp

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In response to the post that just went up demanding that we ban people from posting links from Twitter/X, and instead only allow Bluesky, we want the sub to understand that we will never restrict where people post their Panthers news from. This is antithesis to the purpose of this sub, a place to aggregate all the news we want to read about the Panthers organization. Heck, we don't even restrict posts that are sources from people like David Newton, and he's usually not a reliable source

Regardless of how you feel about what's going on outside of the Panthers fanbase, in relation to Twitter/X, this sub will always focus on exclusively Panthers media, news, and discussion. Every member here is free to post any links from Twitter, Insta, Bluesky, and any other source of news or discussion they see interest in

/r/panthers mods do the unbelievably rare action of letting the upmarsey and downmarsey system do it's job. They of course are getting heat for it (62% upmarseyd at the moment). Some

I don't understand the big deal? If you don't want to see the X/ Twitter post don't click on the link? Most of the panthers reporters/insiders post mainly on X

Honest answer? Virtue signalling

[–]judgeholden72 26 points 22 hours ago

Free market at work is now virtue signaling?

Not banning a website and letting people click on it if they want is the definition of free market lol. What kind of logic steps are you taking to get banning X is actually free market lol.

judgeholden72 -8 points 21 hours ago

Because users are asking for it to not be utilized.

That's the free market. Reddit isn't imposing a ban. Users are asking mods, who are not reddit, to not allow links that have it because those links are less useful

Went back 7 pages, /u/judgeholen72 doesn't appear to post in /r/panthers very frequently, possibly ever. Posts in the /r/nygiants sub every once in a while and a smattering of loser gen X subs. Still claims this is a grassroots every the "users" of the sub is asking for.

Some r-slur tries shit and the mod keeps going "yeah that's fine" and he responses "but what about?".

But that's the truth, I have never removed any posts based on where they were posted from. Usually links to certain sites would just get downmarseyd but the mod team has always been careful to only use our removal cowtools for stuff that is either meant to troll/harass/flame or is irrelevant to the Carolina Panthers

So, nsfw sites are okay to post from? .onion sites? Like, I feel like at some point Reddit would nsfw or quarantine the sub.

As long as the posts are directly Panthers news and discussion related (maybe as a crazy example, some porn star does a weekly discussion about the Panthers while topless) and as long as the post is properly tagged NSFW, then we should have no problems with Reddit

So, and I mean this with all sincerity, if I start just posting full Athletic articles through archive ph, then that's fine? ESPN+ articles?

People already do it. All we ask that you copy and paste the key parts of the content you're posting. So for example if you're posting a paywalled article that lists 5 free agents the Panthers should target, comment those 5 names within your post for people who aren't subscribed

I don't mean posting just the paywalled article. I mean something like:

https://archive.ph/pGbJA

That should be fine too. I've seen Archive posts on many subreddits and as far as I've seen Reddit has no rules against it

This guy gives up against the slight rebuttal, cries about how much he doesn't like X, and then says the mod is taking it too personally.

I'd argue against it from a functional perspective. Because Twitter has removed the functionality for non-users to see threads or visit profiles, it's simply a bad source and we should have higher standards of accessibility for the reddit audience.

I've lost count of how many other sites that get posted here that are paywalled that most members have no issues with. The Athletic, NFL+/ESPN+ articles, and many other links posted are paywalled

Cmon bro you know it's hard to use, it's not about a paywall, it's about links that I don't want to click because I know it'll annoy me if it's part of a thread that I won't be able to read. With the others you mentioned people tend to post a copy of the article in the comments for non-members. It's a hallmark of the reddit community that makes this place fun to go to, and it doesn't really exist for tweets. Put it to an official vote or something, it's weird how personal you're taking this.

Put up a poll in a thread with a bunch of flairless posters are commenting.

Put up a poll and see what the user base thinks

I don't think we need to, no sub rules or reddit rules are being violated, it's just a matter of preference and opinion.

This would fall under the often lamented umbrella of "over moderation".

Which ironically people call us Nazi mods for lol can't win for losing

Is there any way we could do an actual poll? It seems to be a widely supported move because of… well the nazi salute stuff.

I get wanting to protect peoples ability to post news, but can we really not vote to avoid supporting a nazi?

I'm going to start posting Panthers news in 4chan and start linking to it here.

It's patently ridiculous to say any source is okay.

And this is a community and if that's what the community wants then the mods should feel obliged to comply.

You're (likely) not a credible source, while a panthers beat writer who uses Twitter is

🫡 it's been fun while it lasted, i seem to be in the minority here and that's okay, but that man can not be supported in any way

Then don't read it lol. Why does everyone think you can tell other people what to do.

Not telling you to do anything man. I wanted my opinion to have some representation on this post.

I'm not telling you to do anything, I'm just wanting you to not be able to do things I don't like.

Or maybe it's actually good this time?

The authorities are investigating the origin of a large object that fell to the ground on the outskirts of one of Poland’s largest cities.

There are suspicions it may be part of a launch vehicle used by @elonmusk's @SpaceX https://t.co/hCxK2M6Xde

— Notes from Poland 🇵🇱 (@notesfrompoland) February 19, 2025