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I am probably not the first person to notice :marseynoooticer: this but I don't think I've seen anyone else talk about it in these terms before.

As we all know, the internet sucks compared to 10 years ago. Specifically, search engines and easily accessible information sources are much less useful than they were in the past. As many have pointed out (and as I like to bring up whenever relevant) a lot of the blame lies with SEOshit, and another sizeable chunk of the blame lies with the groomercordification of communities. :marseygroomer2:

:#marseydeadchat:

In case you've missed all of my own and others' rants on the topic, what I mean by groomercordification is the currentyear+9 tendency of online communities to use groomercord instead of a forum or subreddit or wiki for everything from community organization (meh) to information archiving (very, very bad).

:marseyminer#:

To use an example most of you incels should be able to relate to, take vidya gayme mods. A decade ago, developers of a mod would use either a legacy self-hosted forum, self-hosted wiki (usually in combination with a forum), or a dedicated subreddit to share general information with each other and with their users. Information such as installation instructions, community feature requests, compatibility details, current status of codecel efforts, details of codecel efforts (I believe the codecels call this "documentation"), et cetera.

:#marseybacktodiscord:

In CY+9, it is increasingly common for vidya mods to have no web presence other than a splash page referring you to their groomercord. Want installation instructions? Refer to groomercord. Want to request a feature? Refer to groomercord. Want extremely basic FAQ-tier tech support? Refer to groomercord. Want to know some details about the code in order to diagnose compatibility problems with other mods? Refer to groomercord. Want to ask other users an extremely basic question about the mod? Refer to groomercord.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1713829363250717.webp

This phenomenon has taken over all kinds of communities, but modding is an example where I've personally observed it multiple times over. A lot of the types of information I listed above are going to be frequently requested by users. In the old times, we had these things called "installation instructions" and "FAQs" on static web pages. The best thing about these static web pages was that they could be retrieved on demand, at any time, with no action required by anybody but the requestor, by entering keywords into a search engine. Similarly, we had these things called "forums" where you could check whether somebody had already asked the question you're about to ask by searching for it before asking.


Finally, my novel (to me) point: why are we backsliding to a state where basic information is gated behind a login wall and mandatory interaction with other people?

One more sidestep: chatbots.

:#marseysnappynraged:

Chatbots are an innovative way for companies to outsource their tech support to a computer/not have to pay for call centers. They're pretty good for 90% of tech support problems, since 90% of tech support problems can be solved by walking the tech-illiterate customer through the process of turning their device off and back on again. Having a robot do this instead of a person saves a looooot of money. More recently chatbots have taken on a new meaning as the most common frontend for AIs, probably because they're easy to interface with even if you're tech illiterate. Can you see where I'm going with this?

:marseyitsover#:

The groomercordification of everything, and especially of things that should not be groomercordified (anything that would traditionally be on a wiki), is just another result of the normie takeover of the internet. A loooooot of people (apparently the vast majority) strongly prefer to consume technical information in a conversation style versus reading a document, so the state of things has drifted towards enforced conversation-style information consumption. This has had horrible consequences for the general availability of information that should logically be retrievable on demand from a static source.

Yes, this is rather galaxybrained and obvious in hindsight.

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source for that is https://www.theinformation.com/articles/how-amazons-big-bet-on-just-walk-out-stumbled, which I cannot bypass the paywall on :marseyshrug:

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You gotta understand though, they've only got 160 million per year to spend, you have to prioritize.

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Backdoors

I wanna be a janny :marseyjanny2:

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Reddit cucks vpn users
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:#marseyitsover:

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LPT that *they* don't want you to know

https://preview.redd.it/plae50pixnuc1.jpeg?width=988&auto=webp&s=08e70e494a7f3012085f0b6f64a209d7753bd985

Look how afraid they get:

Your first ninety minutes rather than days, I dare say. CTO here, you pull that trick and not only are you out of the door but you fly out with a charge of vandalism, sabotage and theft.

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  • BWC : BWC WON :!chadnordic::asiangirl:

Neither can I tbh

Edit:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AsianMasculinity/comments/1bvbk5q/metas_ai_image_generator_cant_imagine_an_asian/?sort=controversial

Some azn nerd wrote a longpost about this phenomenon in DALL-E and it's hilarious

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17122701559581747.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17122703603750982.webp

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17126262834140468.webp

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Linux compared to BSD :marseygroomerfreebsd:. BSD neckbeards unable to refrain from posting :marseylongpost: (237 comments).
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The Context

Epic originally sued Google on August 14, 2020 over the removal of Fortnite on the Google Play Store, which was less than 24 hours after its legal salvo against Apple for the same with iOS App Store. The Epic v. Google finally kicked off with a jury trial on November 6, 2023.

The month that followed was marked by a series of explosive revelations against Google, so darning that the judge presiding over the court case called Google out for, amongst other things, "...intentionally and systematically suppressing evidence". The verdict, handed down on December 12, found Google guilty of anticompetitive and monopolistic behavior.

Yesterday, Epic Games Store tweeted:

We're coming to iOS and Android!

Same fair terms, available to all developers, on a true multi-platform store – with amazing games for everyone.

The Drama

The tweet is posted to /r/Android. There would be a lively discussion about competition, app commissions, and the quality of mobile games... right?

Can't see how this can be a bad thing, but people really seem to have a hateboner for epic

They removed Games from Steam to be exclusive on Epic Games. Greeting from Rocket League

[user A] Aka they offered Devs a good deal to continue developing their games.

[user B] Valve has more exclusives than any other store including any console.

[user C] So? Steam also has "exlusive" games... Valve and steam are the evil ones here.

[Well there are several factors, their exclusivity deals, their way of trying to be a good guy when they are after market share. The fact that more and more developers put their games into their engine. Tencent being one of the big owners.

There are many factors why you shouldnt cuddle with mr tim.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1bjk1xb/epic_games_store_were_coming_to_ios_and_android/kvs8sj8/?context=8&sort=controversial)

That's just normal stuff isn't it? I don't understand why everybody is sucking off the clear market leader but hates on companies trying to compete. Steam would do all the same if they needed to but they don't have to. Not because their product is so much better but because of their early moved advantage. I mean steam UI looks like it's from 2008.

Probably a bunch of PC gaming nerds who hate on them for making good games exclusive to epic launcher as opposed to steam.

it's more to do with tim sweeny's lies and hypocrisy, but sure it's just the launchers.

Why can't we say anything about Epic, Sweeney or the EGS without people jumping at our throats defending them?

Doesn't mean that we like google or apple's practices either

it's a weird thing i've noticed where there's so much hate for something, eventually some amount of contrarians will always show up and defend it, even when there's very little to defend. honestly a little baffling.

What people are mad about is Tim Swiney calling Valve's Steam a monopoly while Valve has never forced a developer to be exclusive to Steam lmao.

Most games that were released only on the EGS died there and had to release on Steam after a year to make money and even then it was DOA (the latest Predator game)

The service steam provides is vastly superior to epic, all my friends are on steam, my games for the past 14 years are all on steam.

Valve is historically pro-consumer are innovate in the gaming space, Epic made a child's game super popular and now want a piece of the case, they haven't done anything ground breaking.

 

If anyone wonders why Google lowered the commission on apps from 30% to 15%, it wasn't out of the goodness of their heart. They knew this was coming and didn't want to be undercut by alternative app stores taking a small percentage.

At least Google never outright blocked third party app stores. Instead, made it easier for third party app stores to autoupdate apps.

Apple having to be forced to do this is the real lede.

Yeah instead Google just pretended to be an open platform whilst threatening OEMs and developers behind closed doors, so much better.

Exactly more competition is good for everyone

Sadly what timmy wants isn't competition and instead a walled monopoly

He managed to do it on PC by buying up third party exclusives and I bet will have an easier time on phones

Steam fanboys are a fricking weird breed.

How tf does Epic has a monopoly when Steam controls the majority of the market?

That's called competition. Are we mad about competition now and implying it's shady?

 

Great! More EGS exclusives /s

What exclusives? The only games that Steam has that are exclusive are developed by Valve themselves, publishers choose to be on steam because that's where the players are. Valve has never paid any developer or publisher for exclusivity on Steam.

You write these comments like it doesn't benefit the developer/publisher. God forbid a team of highly talented individuals have done the research and found out going with EPIC meant they can fund their next project etc.

All it means to you is you have to click a different icon on your desktop. Oh no.

EDIT: Why did I expect any rational, non selfish, thought in /Android

Flairs:

Might as well do it by white knighting themselves online

yelling "you fricking people" doesn't make you smart

DO YOU'RE RESEARCH

most of the other Redditors were still in their daddy's balls


https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1bkepnx/epic_announced_its_game_store_is_coming_to_ios/?sort=controversial

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https://kiwifarms.st/threads/boykisser-r-littleboykisser-boykisser-community-groomercord-femboy-grooming-circles.182778/page-4#post-17699834

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/boykisser-r-littleboykisser-boykisser-community-groomercord-femboy-grooming-circles.182778/page-8#post-17718264

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/boykisser-r-littleboykisser-boykisser-community-groomercord-femboy-grooming-circles.182778/page-12#post-17770946

His posts on the 'Arms :marseydetective:

!nooticers

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