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they are literally the beyond parody borders are immoral people who want to drive down their own wages "uniting" with 6 billion 3rd worlders
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Greetings strags
The 4-day-work-week is one of my favorite redditisms. It always brings out the lazy useless commies out of the work week. And always, ALWAYS, these lazy fools try and masquerade their supposed desire to improve society, when instead they are merely desiring a terraforming of the world to suit their own interests, namely them wanting to work less hard hard like /r/antiWORK
I want to ask you dramatards today what you guys think about 4-day-work-weeks. Because it's always an inevitable circlejerk in the reddit euphoric-atheist eurocuck leftoid anti-yank anti-west crowd.
Yet for somebody who works in an already left wing dominated country, and for a private enterprise, I have my great reservations about only 4 working days per week. In our private company, and similar surveying companies, as well as for building contractors, architects, lawyers, Trade-industry like electricians and plumbers, the notion of a 4 day work week is absolutely fricking ANATHEMA
The reason being is that contrary to white-collar soul crushing useless corporate office hours wasting manhours, our 5 days also consist of accumulating clients and jobs and contracts and tenders, from the private world and the government. If i make this sound sophisticated, what i mean is that it basically boils down to cutting your potential outreach opportunity to clients and available office hours, or even available fricking contacts hours by a brutal 20%.
And while I'm not privy to our business' exact financials or contemporary SA surveying companies, I know the netto income is about 20%. And if the government would for example MANDATE or force a 4-day-work-week, it would slit our throats overnight.
Kaamrev, you guys would say, won't the clients just call/visit the office on Monday=>Tuesday. They might, but customers/clients are funny in the mercurial world of business, you will note if you own a private organization, in which you are solely responsible for accumulating/finding clients, that available hours have drastic influence on whether clients finally take the leap in contractig/buying a service.
Many surveyors and chainmen even work way beyond natural office hours, well earlier than 8am, and well beyond 5pm, if a particularly important/large job is at stake. Many would work Saturdays, and even sundays if pressure is at stake. I myself had done so for months last year, as there literally not enough hours in the fricking 40 hours work week to finish particularly dire projects. Last year i actually worked harder than I studied for my 3rd year at univeristy, not out of principle but sheer panic.
This notion of going beyond mandated 40 hour weeks, is probably unknown to wagie redditors who are paid the same, regardless of whether they do their best/slack off. And while I have sympathy for people in wage-cage jobs, in white-collar soul crushing office-cubicle heck -holes, where middle-managers force useless meetings and useless hours, and thus wasting your finite life span away for unclear goals, in unclear corpo leadership - but that is NOT why redditors champion 4-day-work-weeks. No it is because it appeals to them
Supermarket businesses like Checkers/Spar/Woolworths in South Africa, had steadily encroached on weekend openings about 20 years ago. I recall distinctly massive drama within the Christian communities in Safrica, that when places like Spar and Checkers began to have open hours on Saturday, and then eventually open hours on Sundays. Because sundays are supposed to be the day of rest. In the 1990s you had exceptions to the rule, and in the early 2000s, if your pantry was empty, because you had poor planning or some calamity, then you were fricked out of luck for food for sunday, unless you could find some street-vendor road-seller who would sell you some mielies for the day to tie you over for Sunday.
I distinctly remember many neighbours begging after Sunday services for some key ingredients or some flour or fruit, and promising to pay back on Monday, cuz there literally was no shopping mall or tuckshop or anything open the whole day! But as religiosity gradually faded throughout the country, corporations gradually found weekend openings to be acceptable and convenient to the public
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_shopping
So for these corporations, 7-day operating weeks became a virtual necessity. Because if they did NOT operate during the weekend as their competition did, they lost out on potential clients, because the people who would have shopped during regular weekdays were now satisfied for their groceries on weekends. Smaller grocery businesses would find themselves in a death knell had they not adapted.
And many small town businesses like mom-and-pop bakeries, who traditionally operated on weekdays like they had in the past, and was closed during the weekends as it was family run, and they had to take care of family/kids, would be screwed if they did not compete with corporate chains like Spar, which had bakeries, as the Entire monday sales period would be cut off, as customers had their monday needs met during the weekend.
A not too dissimilar phenomenon happens in trade or contract industries. Even if Governments could make a blanket ban on 5-day-work-weeks, so that your competitors could not operate on a 5th day, same a your company does, and thus steal your clients, there is a weird hidden opportunity cost lost by customers which were on the precipice of a decision, but your unavailability, lost them to your business. This is in addition to the potential loss of manhours to work on potential projects.
I also don't buy this mythos from popular rediditor zeitghest, that in ancient/medieval times, farmer peasants worked much less today, and only in our modern corporatized world we work ourselves into an early grave. I've seen actual farms - there's always work, if the pipes burst, they need to be fixed. It's many long and hard hours.
But I'm also aware historic labour laws came into being becuase of much sacrifice and due to great abuse by magnates and oligarchic businessmen who literally worked English children to death in mine shafts during the Bong Industrial Period.
What do you guys think?
Anyways some drama and sneed below
What does billionaires have to do with the 5-day-work-week?? It's like wagie redditors are so far removed from ever having had the fate of a business enterprise on their shoulders, that they equate a societal business norm of the past several hundred years due to the greed of a cabal of billinaires
Thank frick for that
"STOP MAKING SENSE!" only stupid people want to work for 5 days a week!
Some takes with more than 1 braincel
"It really depends on the industry. I work in manufacturing. Output is directly tied to labor hours applied. My wife works in healthcare. Obviously you still need staffing coverage 24/7."
This guy gets downkongd for pointing out against the circlejerk that the 4-day-work-week was only considered by the experimenting 61 companies, becuase it DIDN'T affect a loss of productivity, and these cute twinks downkong him for pointing out that any loss of productivity/ or incurring more costs like hiring additional staff would negate the feasibility
ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhh man he really pissed off these neetstrags
"Congrats. Not everyone is you. You're not even going to stay the you that you are now. Try working 50 hours/week for 20 years and see if your productivity keeps up."
lmoa 20 years, try people who worked 50 years of their lives you strags
Of course redditors can't read (or ever read the linked articles anyway)
"The dude you are replying to is just going around to very comment trying to justify why him and his area shouldn't allow people to work fewer hours. He also talked about not seeing any decrease in productivity till he pushed workers to work more than 50 hours a week."
Anti-yank circlejerk begins
Those filthy yanks
Again these redditors miss the forest for the trees. Sometimes a company cannot exist in a system where a loss of opportunity is caused by a loss of potential clients or contacts because the fricking business wasn't open or available for liaison
Some more redditors with braincells in smaller threads outside the usual 1000-point upkongd circlejerk teenage angst subthreads, ask significant questions, because they are skeptical of this supposed overgood news.
Manufacturing industries are out
Ok, nice link, thanks.
So the #1 category, by a large margin, is not-for-profits/charities. Which isn't very representative of most people's workplaces.
The #2 is the creative/consultant/PR/marketing space - an industry where the actual hours worked have little relevance.
I thought there was a construction company in there, but it turned out to be a Housing Association. Unfortunately, these really aren't representative of where most people work.
This guys shits on the hopes and dreams of soyneets and soywagies
Anyways the same theme is repeated throughout the thread. What do YOU
dramatards think?!
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REMEMBER YOUR OATH, BRAVE SOLDIERS!
"I'm feeling so defeated and depressed as a two fed family. I can't take much more of this."
"I have honestly cried most of the day today. ."
"I've been scared for myself and my friends/work family."
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Jesus Christ, burgers, what the frick did Trump/Elon do?? Is this just about laying off federal employees??
link to the literal Command HQ of the Reddit army
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more like crooked nose jew politician lizard people...
#truth
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Just to get it out of the way, he probably was trying to tap that. This was recommended to a lot of people's feed so there are accusations of "not a real lawyer" flying around that I'm not going to bother posting.
OP:
We have a new undergrad intern (a young woman, perhaps 19 years old), and I thought I'd take her to lunch to welcome her and answer questions about the work. Simple, right? Apparently, taking a female intern out to lunch is now a high-risk situation requiring oversight.
When we got back, it was suggested in the future that I invited other attorneys and avoided going to lunch one-on-one with female interns.
Lesson learned, and in hindsight I get where the firm is coming from. I still think it's a bit of an overreaction, though. I've gotten mixed responses when I've told people this. I'm curious what the subreddit thinks
His darning follow up post where he admits to having something in common with her and actually talked to her.
[–]TurnDownTheRadioJerk[S] -47 points 3 days ago
So here's more: I'm a 24 year old first year and the school she's going to is the same school I went to for undergrad, and she even has some of the same professors I had. We got talking and I asked her to lunch. No, I don't assign her work, but we seem to get along. Yes, there are other interns, but I haven't really had to talk to them yet
Responses to the follow up:
That sounds a little better than I initially imagined, given your ages are pretty close and the power dynamics aren't super crazy off (I'm assuming you don't have much influence at your firm). But your follow-up also makes it sound more like you are in fact trying to hit on her (or at least become her friend), and your firm gave you good advice. You shouldn't be doing anything that looks like you might be looking for a romantic relationship with anyone subordinate to you
Yea OP is totally hitting on her he wouldnt have done this for a dude I'm guessing.
That is pure speculation on your part, is really hard to imagine forming connections and mentorship in a professional field without ulterior motives. It seems reasonable to plausible to me I have gone to lunch with both male and female colleagues.
Dude… that's a crush let's be real, and you were testing the waters.
There's nothing mentor-ly about this. You were trying to get to know her in a personal capacity 😭
Why did this get so downkongd?
Because the world of genuine courteous courtship has gone entirely to the wayside and in its stead is this hyper-sensitive environment. All of this whilst people complain that they can't meet others organically anymore.
He's a young man and shes a young woman. If he is courteous and respectful in his proceeding with her and he doesn't have power over her directly or otherwise in the firm, I don't see the issue. Statistically, the workplace used to be a great place to meet your spouse.
Young man and a younger** woman. She's a teenager AND an intern. He is an adult who can drink and her mentor at a law firm trying to isolate her. He can treat all the interns or a few more so they arent alone.
There is nothing improper, legally or ethically, about a 24 year old and a 19 year old dating
Got ourselves a over here.
Other Responses:
More context is needed. Are there more interns than just her? Are you working closely with her? If you were her direct supervisor or somebody formally assigning her work, and she was the only intern, I don't think it would necessarily be weird. If you were some random associate who just showed up and was like, "Yo, wanna grab lunch", and didn't invite any of the male interns in the same room, I could see how that might not have the best appearance
I think he left them out on purpose. He didn't want to look like a creep
Two comments in we have him being called a creep. Doesn't appear to be a lawyer and posts in a really odd mix of subreddits including /r/aupairs.
Barely a crumb of context which might be explanatory in itself.
Is this the only intern you've ever taken out? If so, why this sudden exception?
Is she the only intern? If not, why exactly did you choose her and her alone?
Do you work more closely with her than anyone else? Most attorneys work more closely with paralegals, so why her and not them?
[–]PoundTown68 -35 points 3 days ago
That's a lot of useless questions. In a sane world, two consenting adults can go to lunch without concern. Two consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want together if we're being honest. This is exactly why feminists should be ignored. We've allowed them to create a culture of fear, where everyone is tiptoes around unnecessary regulation that benefit nobody….except for 40 year old feminists, jealous that they're no longer sexually attractive, who want to force everyone else to be unhappy with them. Misery loves company.
Darn, found the incel
$100 this guy sexually harasses people on the daily
Yeah, I mean, look alive brother. Avoiding the appearance of a questionable situation is very easy if you have situational awareness.
Was it actually questionable? That's not the right question and doesn't matter (unless it got weird). Protect yourself and the firm. Heck, the vast majority of lunches I went to as an intern or otherwise young firm employee were with multiple people, now that I think about it.
This is crazy. Taking someone out to a business lunch in a public place is not out of bounds or even close.
Why was this intern chosen for a solo business lunch with an older male attorney? I'm not saying OP had any untoward intentions, but let's not pretend the optics don't raise valid concerns.
Also, though, based on the follow up, op definitely does have untoward intentions
The optics of it are not great. Put yourself in the shoes of a supervising partner. Perhaps his 28 years old associate has no bad intention when he asks the 19 year old intern to lunch. Perhaps the 28 year old intern has romantic intentions. Partner has no idea. Does the 19 year old intern know your intentions. Did you take any male interns to lunch. If there is no romantic intention perhaps bring along another associate (perhaps female) and more than one intern or staffer.
Yeah he has to think what the firm partners would think if this 30 year old associate took the 19 year old to lunch. It's a bad look when a 34 year old associate is doing that with an 18 year old intern. The 17 year old intern doesn't know she can decline the lunch invite from the 38 year old.
When I was a 19 year old college student, I invited a visiting professor to lunch to discuss their career. I thought thats what we were supposed to do "networking" and all, build a rapport. The lunch was 100% professional the entire time. No drinking. I paid for myself. All day time hours in public. Afterwards i was invited into the deans office and told that my behavior was inappropriate and unprofessional and that I needed to learn my place and not be so forward. When I was ultimately asked to leave the school (we aren't expelling you, we want to encourage you to go to a place better fitted for you) they cited my inappropriate relationships with visiting professors as one of the reasons.
It was humiliating.
15 years later that school got sued into the ground for 30 decades of sexual abuse against minors.
(am woman)
Talk about getting absolutely on.
I think they are trying to help you out.
I went to not-lunch with a support staff ... we were both new to the org, and she accused me of being a predator. And then coworkers hacked my email and spread it around the community. It was too late by the time we established that she was lying, for my email inbox was everywhere and the firm decided I had to leave before I could figure it out.
You need to be extraordinarily careful.
I found one of the few dissenting voices that wasn't downkongd into oblivion.
I strongly disagree with this take. Be professional about it. Make sure it's a public place, but refusing to take women to lunch in a professional environment is Mike Pence culture crap that prevents women from having the same opportunities as men.
IMO, a work culture that discourages men from meeting 1 on 1 with women is a massive red flag and usually the #1 sign that the employer has fostered an anti-woman environment.
There is a difference between "men and women can't have lunch together" and "attorney shouldn't take young intern of the opposite s*x to lunch alone". The power imbalance inherent in the latter certainly has a higher chance of producing a bad situation, from either direction (attorney actually taking advantage, or intern falsely claiming they did).
Keeping that sort of thing as a small group activity avoids all the possible issues.
Muh power imbalance.
You're a lawyer and don't understand professional conduct or ethics?
OP about to be disbarred.
Why is no one talking about the 19 year old intern's perspective. That's what matters here. And that's what the others at the firm are focused on, not the intentions of the OP.
Possibly the most incorrect response in the whole thread.
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Congrats to Mexico voters! 🇲🇽
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Blackface trusted the bean yenta to team up on Donald and he got fricked
She's kinda based for it tbh
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Amazing thread attempting to create a narrative with 40k upkongs and just 900 comments, so you know it's legit.
Comments are mostly as expected: Yeah, but Amazon is cheaper, ships faster, and has ez returns.
Note: Amazon doesn't make much on it's retail ops anymore, so they probably dgaf if people shop there or not.
Notable zero-pointers
2 weeks later no package arrives, no answer from support, regret not using reliable Beszos
Amazon is Amazon for a reason
Yeah but usually there products are marked up 25% compared to the Amazon listing so bezos gets my money🤷.
Nah I usually want the shit I ordered faster than 1-3 business months
The Pivot attempt and rebuttal
The main difference is Amazon offers free shipping and free hassle free returns. Other retailers charge you to return products you order from them and usually charge you shipping to get them
fyi hassle free returns = products go directly in the garbage (cheaper than sorting through the products) and Amazon bakes the cost into higher prices for everyone due to the high volume of returned items
FYI the exact same thing happens when you return it to the manufacturer.
The only difference is that it's substantially easier to return a product to Amazon vs most manufacturers.
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They really said: ![https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738372316gcWyQF3en_RlfQ.webp](https://i.rdrama.net/i/l.webp)
The old page:
New page:
right at the bottom btw . That's some foreshadowing, gays
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There are a lot of policies they're putting in place that will directly hurt trans people, but this one in particular strikes me as purely performative. They're trying to make sure the LGB-without-the-T idiots continue to tow the line by pretending that they still care about them. It's a distraction tactic to keep eyes off their efforts to outlaw gay marriage.
sorry for existing
Oh were not going to make it
Step 1, make it very difficult to transition
Step 2, make it very difficult to get treatment
Step 3, censor their existence
Step 4, marginalize everyone who is trans
Step 5, make the world see them as horrible beings so that no one can relate to them
Step 6, in a generation or two, have completely eliminated trans people
we're finally free from being associated with strags
Its not the lgb that dropped the t. Its us that dropped the lgb
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New York literally just invented garbage cans
I'm sure it cost the city tens of billions of dollars to pilot this program.
Orange sight: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42918425
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LMAOOOOOO YE cooking random people on IG 😭😭
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Anyone who has IG can you go see what else hes up to.
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