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autodrama they/them i suck robo peepee 1d ago (text post) 45 thread views #264663

Drama Report: 2024-04-27

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🔥🔥🔘🔘🔘	Husband was just prescribed Vicodin following a vasectomy, while I ...	/r/mildlyinfuriating (8M)	65%	5562
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Everyone thinks we need more taxes but no one is asking if the gove...	/r/FluentInFinance (258K)	60%	1795
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Do You Find Me Attractive? Why/Why Not?	/r/LooksmaxingAdvice (67K)	63%	1919
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	The real porn thing in this game, it's the physics of her hair	/r/gaming (41M)	69%	1454
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	I threatened to leave AITA?	/r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC (35K)	60%	1042
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Study finds feminists don't hate men	/r/PurplePillDebate (129K)	44%	731
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Blood for the blood god in silver and neon green :D	/r/CriticalDrinker (6K)	56%	770
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Would this be too painful for a first timer? Also do you think this...	/r/tattooadvice (193K)	59%	768
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	Can Protestors stop talking about the Intifada or chanting river to...	/r/ucla (76K)	61%	437
🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘	The Real DFL	/r/altmpls (5K)	52%	320

Relative Drama (takes into account the size of the subreddit)

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🤓🤓🤓🤓🔘	Blood for the blood god in silver and neon green :D	/r/CriticalDrinker (6K)	56%	770
🤓🤓🤓🔘🔘	The Real DFL	/r/altmpls (5K)	52%	320
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	I threatened to leave AITA?	/r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC (35K)	60%	1042
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Do You Find Me Attractive? Why/Why Not?	/r/LooksmaxingAdvice (67K)	63%	1919
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Protest in support of Palestinians on campus	/r/wsu (15K)	47%	145
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Anyone else dreading tourist season?	/r/CapeCod (23K)	54%	231
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Dear protestors…	/r/columbia (35K)	59%	304
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Prices & Release Date Announced!	/r/GrayZoneWarfare (10K)	54%	69
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Study finds feminists don't hate men	/r/PurplePillDebate (129K)	44%	731
🤓🔘🔘🔘🔘	Just here to say WOW, FSD is incredible. I am floored at how $99 a ...	/r/TSLA (25K)	48%	130

autodrama: returning jobs to dramautists. Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion

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Sasanka_of_Gauda maha/raja :marseybengal2:

Hypermuscular Hindu Beast :!marseybengal2:

1d ago (twitter.com) 389 thread views #264632

Bihari kangs over his impoverished village

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autodrama they/them i suck robo peepee 1d ago (reddit.com) 842 thread views #264560

[🔥🔥🔘🔘🔘] Should I file for divorce 4 months married or are all men like this?

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HailVictory1776 devil/dog There is NO EXCUSE for deprivation of Rights under color of law 21hr ago (pcgamer.com) 534 thread views #264684

Troll fakes DMCA request from Nintendo to take down thousands of assets from zoomer potty meme game Garry's Mod

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MayflyAlt-98 Your/Grace Self-taught hypebeast 1d ago (reddit.com) 1,176 thread views #264662

Reddit PowerJanny of multiple subreddits took out a PAYDAY LOAN to go to an Anime Convention The interest is eating him alive

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I am using a throwaway since I am moderator on several of the subs that have to do with my hobby of cosplay, anime and hentai.

This is one of those ones where I see my self as being 80% right but I want to be fair because honestly I depend on my parents for a lot of stuff (rent, tuition, food, car insurance).

I am huge into cosplay and gaming. It has been my dream to go to a big convention in my cosplay. A friend suggested we got to LVL UP since it has everything we like. The badges aren't super expensive but we decided we wanted to super splurge on accomodations so maybe we could host parties in our room. So the total cost of my trip including everything (airfare, room, estimate for food, badge) is about $3500. I had $2000 that I was supposed to pay towards my credit card but I decided to get the rest I would get a pay day loan this was back in march so the trip is all paid for.

I wanted to keep it a secret from my parents but I accidentally missed my first payment to the pay day loan and for some god knows how reason the people at the pay day loan place did a search for my name since I as ducking their calls until I could borrow some money from a friend and they called my parents home number looking for me (I can't even imagine this is legal!?!)

So here's the deal, I'm no like so dense that I don't understand I messed up. I mean I know that I NEED to pay my debts. But here's the deal, I mean I'm only in college once and I only get to do things like LVLUP while I'm young. I also think this was a very normal mistake and my parents should give me enough room to make mistakes and learn from them.

But my parents are freaking the heck out. My dad has basically said this is it, that after the credit card debt and my grades and now the pay day loan and missing a payment I have shown a level of irresponsibility that he can't trust me any more and I either move home to go to community college and work for his company or he cuts me off for good. As harsh as that was my mom was even worse and she literally screamed at me like cussing names and told me that they didn't raise me like this and I acting like a "spoiled Instagram butthole."

edit: just for clarification I'm 20f.

Like I said I KNOW I messed up, but am I really an butthole?

!chuds !nonchuds :marseyrofl:

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DEIShill diver/sity :marseydiversity:

Diversity Is Our Strength :marseydiversity:

19hr ago (telegraph.co.uk) 383 thread views #264708

The Israel Defence Forces are the most moral soldiers in the world

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Just when coverage of Israel in much of the broadcast media couldn't seem any more spiteful and misleading -- the slippage into the mainstream of slurs like "genocide" and "famine", for instance, neither of which are remotely accurate descriptions for what is going on in Gaza -- a story breaks that destroys all my remaining confidence that such outlets will cover the war impartially.

It was reported last week that a "mass grave" had been discovered in Khan Younis. Few were willing to blame the Israelis directly, but the coverage -- and the response from some politicians -- heavily implied that the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) must have been responsible. I listened and read with a now-familiar torpor; vaguely interested in whether anyone would question the story's assumptions, while knowing that they wouldn't.

The globally parroted suggestion that the IDF had tied Gazans' hands behind their back before shooting them and dumping them in these graves (there is a deliberate resonance here: the SS often shot Jews in Eastern Europe into graves they'd forced them to dig) immediately struck me and most other sane Israel-watchers as almost certainly untrue. Israel, unlike Hamas, does not conduct warfare with freewheeling sadism; instances of any such foul play are investigated and punished, for which there are plenty of examples.

Of course, I could be wrong in this case, but I highly doubt it -- especially given that geo-imaging now shows that the "mass graves" are actually on a site in hospital grounds in which Palestinians had previously buried dead bodies.

But there is a tendency to always assume the worst of the IDF. There is an ancient anti-Semitic trope of Jews drinking the blood of the innocents. A version of this trope appears to have structured many people's views of Israel's war in Gaza since the Hamas attack of October 7 -- and indeed long before, at least since the turn of the millennium when the Second Intifada broke out, receiving similar encouragement to that enjoyed by Hamas now.

The urge to portray the IDF as an immoral army is very strong indeed; almost a religion in itself. But it's wrong. In fact, the IDF has a strong claim to being the most moral army in the world.

I once interviewed Asa Kasher, the philosopher and linguist who wrote the IDF's code of ethics, in his humble flat in a Tel Aviv suburb. I was amazed at the sobriety and rigour with which he had approached his task. This very unglamorous philosophy professor had put immense thought into the life-and-death implications of his work.

The code sets out four "fundamental values", number three of which is "human dignity". This states explicitly that "every individual is of inherent value, regardless of their ethnicity, religion, nationality, gender or status". Soldiers are instructed to "maintain their humanity during combat". Elsewhere, under "discipline", it reads that "the soldier will ensure they are only giving out legal orders, and do not follow illegal orders".

This code of ethics used to be handed out in paper format to all conscripts and is now disseminated in basic training. And it's hardly surprising that the IDF seeks to inculcate such values in its troops. Israel is a democratic, free country, and many non-Jewish Israeli citizens serve in its armed forces. It also knows that it will face more scrutiny than perhaps any other army in the world.

And it's not just theoretical: the IDF's morality is seen in its actions. It is currently trying to dismantle probably the most extensive, cunning terrorist infrastructure ever known, one that is highly likely to have been built with the help of hundreds of millions of Western taxpayer money, UN and other "aid" funds. Hamas operates via an outstandingly well-constructed tunnel network bigger than the whole London Underground.

Israel uses a great deal of precision technology to limit the bloodshed. But it's difficult. There are booby traps and mines above, below, and fire all around. Hamas's whole strategy revolves around using civilian shields and as many brutal tricks as possible, such as those that have resulted in IDF soldiers firing on their own and on aid workers.

And still journ*lists and Twitter armies lap up the idea that Israel is going after "women and children", refusing to acknowledge how and why they end up stuck in the cross-hairs.

Despite this near-impossible battlefield, the IDF seems to have managed to keep its ratio of civilians to combatants killed lower than almost any other army ever has. The world eats up Hamas figures for the numbers who have been killed, naturally refusing to distinguish between Hamas fighters and civilians.

But according to one analysis earlier this year, even if we accept the terror group's statistics, for every Hamas combatant eliminated, approximately 1.5 civilians have been tragically killed. Given that the UN says that civilians usually make up a shocking 90 per cent of casualties in war (a 1:9 ratio), this is impressive.

Unlike most, Israel drops leaflets and sends texts to people before any attacks so they can evacuate; in this war, it has sacrificed some of its objectives in order to limit civilian deaths.

No army gets this right all the time, but the IDF operates in a manner light years away from that of all the terror groups and militias that hate Israel, currently being cheered on college campuses.

It is the ultimate taboo but it is true: the IDF is the most moral army in the world, and its enemies not only know this, but also trade on it.

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MayflyAlt-98 Your/Grace Self-taught hypebeast 1d ago (kiwifarms.net) 525 thread views #264633

A kiwicel has been waging psychological war upon NIPOC and homeless by blasting classical music 24/7 to drive them off since 2019.

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SuicideShill k/ys die❌die❌die❌ 10hr ago (image post) 79 thread views #264851

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Sasanka_of_Gauda maha/raja :marseybengal2:

Hypermuscular Hindu Beast :!marseybengal2:

16hr ago (twitter.com) 312 thread views #264745

Paki girl gets a free heart transplant in India, Paki reminds other Pakis how they're still kaffir tho

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1d ago (reddit.com) 1,085 thread views #264460

I haven't made a menslib post in a while - The Perception Paradox: Men Who Hate Feminists Think Feminists Hate Men

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Choice quotes from the article itself

The “feminists are man-haters” trope is getting old.

Until recently, refuting these claims has proven difficult. After all, every feminist-hating man has an anecdotal story of “that one feminist” he knows who definitively hates men. Thankfully, contemporary research has finally given us real, irrefutable evidence that feminists do not, in fact, despise men.

Feminists Won't Coddle Men's Egos

Whereas non-feminist women are likely to excuse or ignore men's bad behavior toward women, feminist women will, more often than not, call it out. They will not pull their punches to spare men's egos. They expect much from men, and will hold them accountable to the behavior they know men are capable of.

And it appears that this is where the man-hating feminist trope has its roots.

Yes, there is ample anecdotal evidence that some feminist women hate men. Following the #MeToo movement, many feminists began actively self-identifying as misandrists (man-haters) in response to the sheer volume of abusive, dangerous men who were exposed during that time. Many feminists and non-feminists alike saw their attitudes toward men evolve as they saw prominent male celebrities, political correspondents and politicians they trusted and admired be called out for their sexual misconduct and attempted cover-ups. For a lot of us, it was a time that eroded our trust in men. For some of us, that trust was never regained.

lmao

But the existence of some feminists who hate men does not prove that all feminists hate men. In fact, although feminism is a movement that seeks to center women's equality and liberation, it has also done much for the liberation of men. After all, men are harmed by patriarchy, too, and feminists seek to abolish all forms of gender-based discrimination that are propped up by patriarchy.

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Now we get into the comments

Moid does everything to please feminists but only gets shit on, continues being a feminist because it's called being a decent person chud.

I mean, to say that feminism hates men is nonsensical because feminism is a broad and diverse ideology that itself can neither hate nor love.

I've done everything that my feminist gender studies professors told me to do as a man. I am gentle, communicate my emotions, try not to be arrogant and speak over people, etc etc etc, and I am a better, more fulfilled man for it.

But... once in awhile I'd like my side to actually advocate for me, and recognize that we still live in a society that excludes men from many things. I'd like my side to recognize that sometimes WOMEN unfairly exclude and hurt men. The advice everyone gave me as a man and as a father, including the school principal and family lawyer? Get a female family member to take my kids to the doctor, because if it had been a woman doing it, this probably wouldn't have happened.

This was extremely depressing for me. Despite being the best man and father and husband I could--- and live up to the feminist ideal of what a man should be--- I was still treated like a predator and abuser by default. So who was advocating for me as a man on this issue? Who was calling this out and calling it unfair??

The only voices I hear are right wing ones, but I am not interested in being the kind of man they want me to be.

Let's be honest... if I went to a feminist sub on Reddit and brought up my woes, would people in that sub be sympathetic? Or would I promptly get banned?

Other men like you are supposed to be advocating for it. But men have been so reliant upon other people, usually women, organizing and structuring neutral gatherings and a lot of existing men's spaces being incredibly toxic means men have to start creating their own communities.

:#marseyxd:

Only right wingers are dishonest and the reason why young people support palestine is because zoomers can just fact check who is more just on the internet

Something I've noticed over the decades is that conservatives tend to think that everyone knows and believes what they know and believe. Therefore, in their mind, anyone who professes to know/believe something different is just lying in order to gain an advantage over the conservative.

Which fits this situation. Since they believe feminist beliefs are wrong and trying to assert power over men, they hate feminists and assume feminists must hate them just as much (if not more). They cannot imagine a world where people just ... believe differently, everyone must be trying to pull a fast one on them.

I mean, that's what THEY do. Conservatives lie all the time about everything, so they assume everyone else does too.

I'm good

They're bad

If I do something bad, they must be doing the same thing, but even worse.

I think the reason this tends to be more prevalent on the right is that they believe in good and bad people, while the left tends to believe in good and bad actions.

Hot take. The rise of leftist thinking among the youth populations is directly correlated to how much easier it has become to actually check whether actions have good and bad consequences. Boomers cannot imagine being able to just gather data on what is and is not helpful for people and society. They favor divine command ethics and virtue ethics because these are much easier to use in low-information ecosystems.

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Menslibber calls out the phd article writer for purposely misinterpreting a study

She also links to another article she wrote about the same topic, which interprets the lower benevolence result as:

Meaning, feminists are less likely to coddle, mollify, or excuse men who behave poorly.

These interpretations do not seem to have any basis in the actual study. If you read the study that she cites, the scores for benevolence are measures of benevolent sexism specifically, taken from the 1999 AMI inventory, which measures responses to statements like “Every woman needs a male partner who will cherish her” and “Men are more willing to take risks than women.” A footnote in the study explains, "Conceptually benevolence to men and hostility to men are not indices of positivity–negativity, but rather they measure stereotyped attitudes to men."

In other words, she is citing a study that found lower benevolence and then is explaining what lower benevolence means, but her explanations are baseless and not supported by the actual study. It is ironic that she is even trying to (baselessly) defend feminists' lower benevolence, because this finding actually signifies that feminists have less stereotyped attitudes towards men.

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Menslibber used to be a chud but then he realized that feminists couldn't be misandrists because feminists believe in equality... just like how the DPRK is a true democracy

I used to be skeptical of feminists as well, when I was a teen. I thought many of them were just misandrists. Then I was reminded of the word "misandrist" and realized that was stupid - feminists believe in equality, misandrists "hate men."

Can someone who calls themselves a "feminist" act misandrist, or even be a misandrist? Sure. But they are different things, so that's important to know.

:#marseysmughips: :#marseyconfused2:

Menslibber volunteers for charity and notices how it somehow turned around to being about women

I volunteered for a men's charity for a while that said it was about challenging what it means to be a man, but all they really did was challenge how being a man affects women, they did talks like "here's how to talk to your friends about sexism and consent" which is very valuable, but when that's ALL hat you do I can understand why some men feel like it paints them as the problem.

Every single press snippet on their website was about the safety of women (which is incredibly important). But when your challenging masculinity charity is more only focused on demonising the behaviour of men towards women, it's like putting a plaster over a wound that needs stitches. It would be more fruitful to help them to understand themselves and express themselves in a healthy way that sends a message that these men are valued as people.

Can you understand why women and feminists main priority may be lowering the rates of sexual violence? And they do that by teaching about consent? I do not understand how you can experience a talk about consent as demonizing men

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Menslibber says its only moid foid on social media

This is especially clear on social media spaces like Instagram where men LOVE complaining about women and seem to just genuinely hate women that aren't super submissive "trad-wives"

:#marseysmughips:

Menslibber/vaush fan explains that it doesn't make sense for men to ignore what women's expectations for dating purposes because another menslibber told them to, gets btfoed by a janny

One of the most demoralizing things I sometimes read on this subreddit is someone saying that men can't change because women still have expectations of them that fit traditional gender roles.

How true that perception of expectations are is pointless to argue because it differs from place to place and most people talk about their personal experiences anyway... but even if it was 100% true, always - so what? If it's a necessary step for the better, don't play into those expectations. Women don't want to date you because of that? Okay.

"but even if it was 100% true, always - so what? If it's a necessary step for the better, don't play into those expectations. Women don't want to date you because of that? Okay. "

I dont know man.This just feels like a bad concession .Part of appealing to a demographic means addressing issues that said demograpic actually cares about.For alot of guys,especially young guys,thats dating.How to be percieved as attactive to women around me.

Its counter productive and a bit delusional to expect men to ingore what the women they actually come across becasuse some online social tell them so. (entire comment removed)

FOH with that.

Finally we have the removed comments

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l194lda/#comment-info

Other men like you are supposed to be advocating for it. But men have been so reliant upon other people, usually women, organizing and structuring neutral gatherings and a lot of existing men's spaces being incredibly toxic means men have to start creating their own communities.

Men have organized movements for millenia, how could you possibly suggest that they simply are too lazy to organize? Men organize on this issue all the time on the right. So why not on the left? Because it is a hostile workplace environment, as evidenced by the very comments you made up above.

I know, because I've tried and I've experienced the phenomenon myself. I have attempted to organize, and I have been met with hostility from people that should be allies. For example: when my wife and I dealt with infertility, I was involved in numerous infertility support groups and ran my own. There were no men, and I wondered why. So I started a subgroup myself and encouraged the women to bring their husbands so that we could get things going.

In doing this, I realized I'd revealed my gender, and I was verbally abused by many of the women there. A few were right winger Bible thumper types who thought I wasn't adhering to God's plan of what a husband/father to be, but even more were self identifying feminists who said I was "invading the sacred space of women" and "just trying to get off on pregnant women." I would have perhaps started an exclusive men's group, but it would have taken years and years to get it up and running and I needed support at that moment, not in 10 years. It's hard to get a men's liberation movement going when the people who are supposed to be your allies are actively tearing you down. The attitude was generally. Their attitude was the same as yours: "You are wrong for expressing your pain when so many others are suffering more."

I had the same issue as a parent of a micro preemie. At the moment of my deepest depression and grief when I needed support, I went to pre-existing support groups. I was met with the same treatment. So I started my own blog and tried to organize. While working. While raising a kid with special needs. But yeah, I get it, I'm a man so I just have to do it all myself with no help, and if I fail, it's all on me.

Do you know how hard it is to try to create a movement from scratch in a busy life? It's like telling a woman in the 19th century to--- if she wanted to be a scientist--- simply to reinvent the entire university system and scientific literature system from scratch.

And yeah, it's nice that you can find a few people in the halls of academia who might actually be earnest advocates, but that doesn't mean much when the actual people in the real world who are supposed to be allies are tearing you down.

Your lecturing me without knowing my experiences is a bit hypocritical when you talk about being patronizing. You think you are the only man who has experienced that kind of pain with a loved one and struggled in a typically non-male space?

I appreciate and commiserate with your story and I am well aware of how hard it is for men to organize these kinds of groups. Yet feminists had to do it in much harsher conditions in the late 19th century to now. Again - those men didn't join the one you tried to create because to a lot of men, it isn't our responsibility. I don't see how your story contradicts my overview. I know a few good men are trying.

It's just the majority of men benefit from our patriarchal society or just don't care.

foid try to not make anything about themselves challenge impossible :marseyxd:

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l18csfk/#comment-info

It's a lot easier to justify oppressing people who you can convince yourself you hate - and it's easier to hate someone who you can convince yourself hates you.

And unfortunately the whole conservative movement & mediaaphere is a giant machine for manufacturing hate. Hence why, and how, patriarchy gets reproduced.

Do you have any evidence that this is what anti-feminist men are trying to do? It's a common trope, but I only ever see it bandied around in feminist spaces.

When I myself was antifeminist, and when I talked to other antifeminists, our antifeminism was not about trying to justify oppressing women. Rather, it was about trying to stop stereotyping and prejudice towards men. So it is quite ironic that you describe antifeminism as an attempt to justify the oppression of women.

They regularly believe women's place is in the kitchen; that men are physically and mentally superior to women; that men deserve a well-mannered, subservient wife; that female promiscuity is a problem, and that reproductive health should be out of their control; that no-fault divorce shouldn't exist and marital rape is impossible; that sexual harassment and assault isn't a widespread issue;

islam is right about women :derpsnickering:

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l19b8lf/#comment-info

The real perception paradox: reading an article about men who hate feminists that makes feminist men question their stance. /s

Seriously though, there is something very wrong with the tone of the article.

The "all men are responsible for patriarchy" trope is getting old.

:#marseyjanny2:

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l18vo21/#comment-info

Mods, are y'all going too hard on some of the comments? There was one that I wanted to respond to that's now deleted, and the person said they were once antifeminist but now they weren't. These are people who have learned that what they thought was wrong, and grew from it. Or they're explaining how they came to believe what they did believe. These things can and should absolutely be included in discourse about those who aren't feminist. Who knows what would work better to change someone than someone who has changed?

:#marseytrollolol: