What are some indisputable facts that get wingcucks angry (US edition)

I really only give a shit about leafland most of the time (and even then not really all that deep into politics lol) but I've come to the conclusion that to get people angry online I need to say undeniable truths instead of my usual make shit up approach

Post undeniable truths that'd get wingcucks of either side angry :marseyexcited:


The company is Varda Space. They are experimenting with manufacturing drugs in space. Their first batch returned to earth today, landing in the Utah desert.

I know you're asking: why manufacture drugs in space? Well basically when creating crystals on earth, there is sometimes a more stable but less useful form that ends up emerging. I don't really understand this ( I failed chemistry lol) but kinda interesting

The specific drug made in space is called Retonavir, which is used for helping with HIV patients. So no, the title of this post wasn't even a joke. Lest you think that I made this up:

Outside of the memes, this is pretty neat. Who knows what other stuff we will manufacture in orbit, with the cost of space launches decreasing?


"Gender theory is 'ugly ideology' that threatens humanity"


What about his employees banging little boys? Has he got any opinions on that?


The Russian bots and agents are strong in this thread.


WTF is up with this comment section? It's like a far right gathering here :marseysoyjak:

Well, this is /r/Europe. :soysnoo2:

And by that I take it you mean it is heavily flooded with bots that do not represent Europe (the region with the most social democracies in the world). :marseyshitforbrains:

Oh no, you had to read some opinions outside of your usual bubble. Lets hope you make it through. :chadsnoo:

Why i should care about transphobes opinion to begin with? :marseysnoo:

True, labelling everyone transphobe who you do not agree with and ignoring discussion is the way to go. That will definitely drive humanity forward, you are very smart. :chadsnoo:


He's missing the fricking tendies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edit: found they TikTak

It's the good boy points kid irl.

:marseyschizotwitch: :marseytrans2: :marseylongpost:

Some choice sections from this interactive essay:

Isnt half life world just eastern europe??

Mario bros is too scary :marseyscared:



!cuteandvalid !lgbt look i found an essay by ur kind

!chuds schizo train

!nonchuds genius trans woman btfos fascist gaming

I have been unbanned using facts and logic

Btw i heard a rumour moot was a p-do????

Leaves google in 2021. In 2022 a man named Christopher Poole aged 34 (see same age as Chris Poole at the time) gets convicted of s*x crimes.

Notice no noise about Poole ever since he left google abruptly.*pe/

At 15 years old he started 4chan bulletin board because somethingawful banned kubrick films.....

Christer Poole in article confessed to viewing material for 20 years. The numbers add up. Also moot is 5'8....

Arrest Record

5.8 with brown hair. 175 lbs....

That's enough for me!!!! Ban Him!!!!


This guy below works for sweet baby as a "narrative designer". I guess "writer" wasn't an inflated enough job title. He has since privated his account after calling for a mass reporting campaign against an account that simply credits them with games they're involved in :unoreverse:. The picture isn't that clear, but it's all I got.

Another sweet baby r-slur chimes in (also worth noting the account has more than doubled to 20,000 followers since this idiot bitched about it yesterday):

Anyways, this is the good Twitter link as this second guy still has his braindead takes up. He has some long-winded schpiel. I didn't really read any of it, but the below stuck out to me as extra stupid.

Make fun of this nerd too while you're at it:


im not posting screenshots, sign up for Twitter to get LLM get more elonbux

Safe Supply is morally bankrupt :marseyindignant:

A few weeks ago there was a thread in my local sub which I wrote off as schizo rambling. Someone was claiming a chain of foster homes was providing kids in care with weed every day, in an effort to make them docile and easier to manage. Lots of scepticism and basically OP was told to contact both CFS and the CBC. The thread of course is long gone.

Weeks go by and CBC runs a front page article

Province cuts ties with Winnipeg foster home operator after teens given marijuana daily

In which all of OPs claims were vindicated. If you needed any more proof that enabling junkies and letting them wallow in addiction is immoral, this is probably it.

Staff were told by upper management it was better to have workers at the home provide cannabis than risk residents going elsewhere and doing harder drugs, such as methamphetamine and opioids.

"It's easier to just keep [them] placated and happy than to have to deal with the paperwork, police and hospitals," the former employee said.

She said an underage teen who had never smoked marijuana in her life started smoking it daily after she moved into a Spirit Rising House home.

The foster homes were run by some guy who believes in enabling junkies and was giving kids a gram of weed a day. That's over an ounce a month for a kid. Absolutely insane amounts of weed for teens. If you had any doubts this is proof harm reduction proponents lack a moral compass.

Me and who?
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  • Wuzizname : Someone buy the poor kid an unban award for christ's sake!
Forbes : Reddit's IPO Filing Shows Lots Of Losses After Nearly 20 Years

Haven't seen this mentioned here yet, but for any of you r-slurs actually r-slurred enough to be considering investing in the shitshow that is called Reddit considered yourself forewarned. Also, this is a great example of how much of a loser Spez and the exec leadership of Reddit are considering Reddit clone sites like The Chive, even Digg and (hopefully) rDrama and WPD can operate at a net profit with far less employees than what Reddit does. A great example is The Chive which was profitable after 2-3 years (estimated $20 million in revenues and approx 6 employees).

In contrast, after 20 years, Reddit is not only not profitable but they continue to post yearly loses in the tens to hundreds of millions of dollars a year. In fact, the article points out, that these loses translate to "....$232,432.87 a day, or nearly $9,685 an hour [in loses]."

So, Reddit finally filed for an IPO. After nearly 20 years, starting on its own, being acquired by Condé Nast Publications in 2006, spun out in 2011.

Having a long gestation as a private company getting investment dollars isn't unusual today. For a number of years now, the trend has been to see increasingly long years of waiting to seek an exit so investors can allow the company to develop. To strengthen. To build a capability of making money.

Which makes Reddit's filing — its S-1 using technical terms — so interesting is that it's taken so long to still be losing money by the truckful. That's $232,432.87 a day, or nearly $9,685 an hour.

Maybe this has something to do why Condé Nast's parent, Advance Publications, waved goodbye to Reddit so many years ago.

The company calls itself an “emerging growth company” by the definition of the JOBS Act, and will continue to be until any one of the three following conditions happens: their revenue at least equals $1.235 billion; they reach the last day of the fiscal year following the fifth anniversary of the IPO offering; they reach the date on which during a previous three-year period in which they issue more than $1 billion in non-convertible debt; or, under the Exchange Act, they're deemed a “large accelerated filer.”

There are 54 pages of risk factors, which, after reading many S-1 filings over the years, seems pretty long. One of the most notable is the sentence, “We have incurred substantial losses during our history and may never achieve profitability.”

There are companies that have said that in the past, but they were much younger. AmazonAMZN +1% has a reputation of being unprofitable for a very long time, but in the last quarter of 2001, it had its first profitable quarter. That was about seven years after the company started running out of the garage of Jeff Bezos.

After two decades, Reddit still warns that it's not making money. Losses can eventually be useful for companies when they can carry them forward and finally offset profits, but the profits do have to come. At the end of 2023, the company has $216.7 million in federal and $177.1 million of state net operating losses (NOLs) to carry. The state ones are gone in 2026 if there aren't profits to apply them to. Federal NOLs through 2017 can only be carried for 20 years to fully offset taxable income. After 2017, due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, they can be carried indefinitely to offset only 80% of taxable income annually. So, the losses at this point are theoretically helpful, but practically? Who knows?

In 2023, the company's revenue was $804.0 million. Research and development, at $438.3 million, was more than half, an awfully big number for a company of this age. Total costs and expenses were $944.2 million. The net loss was $90.8 million, which at least is an improvement over 2022, with its $666.7 million in revenue and $158.6 million in losses.

Reddit favors non-standard accounting metrics like adjusted EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization). The adjusted part include “stock-based compensation expense and related taxes, other (income) expense, net, and certain other non-recurring or non-cash items impacting net income (loss) that we do not consider indicative of our ongoing business performance.” Which makes it tough to know exactly what's being included or excluded.

The adjusted EBITDA in 2023 was still -$69.3 million.

And they like free cash flow as a “liquidity measure.” Free cash flow in 2023 was -$84.8 million. In 2022, it was -$100.3 million.

On top of that, Reddit is going the dual stock class approach, where Class A is the ordinary stock with one vote per share, Class B getting 10 votes per share, and Class C, no votes. This is the type of structure designed to let a small group continue to control the company no matter what. The public argument is that they will keep doing the right thing for the company. In practice, that has meant lots of losses.


i am currently blowing mushroom bits and snot from my nose after vomiting the (single fricking "shot" of syrup mind you was like 15ml) rest up

:marseydepressed: not nice

>what do?????

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u/ Willywonkafan100 describes himself on his profile as A Tech guy, father, genius, single. Whether that is true or not does not matter. What does matter is the fact that he is a major schizophrenic who has an obsession with everyone's favourite youtuber, Mr. Beast. It may be easy to dismiss this guy as a troll at first, due to some of his posts such as the one where he claims rhinoceros do not exist and the fact that he claims to have named his kid after Henry Kissinger. But most of his post and comment history before his descent into schizo posting seems normal, and I want to believe that this guy is genuine despite the evidence contrary. He's a big fan of the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie and believes that Willi Wonka may hold some racial biases, he smokes weed and likes elfbar vapes, he lives in the United Kingdom, and has the strange habit of looking at hentai in public bars.

His obsession with Mr.Beast starts about a month back with this post asking an innocent question on /r/askreddit:

What would happen if Mr Beast got horny?

He gets some interaction, and says that he would like to see Mr. Beast's peepee as well as him having s*x with her girlfriend. He also admits that he would buy a Mr. Beast branded fleshlight if one was ever released.

Then soon after he releases this post:

Imagine if Mr Beast got horny and started making s*x videos.

Last to stop sucking mr beast peepee wins, $1 s*x vs $10000 s*x etc

This post noticiblly gets less interaction but he is not dissuaded at all and soon comes out with another banger:

Mr Beast should get horny and make freaky videos

Pay people money to have s*x with him and he is naked and everyone sees him. He should make $100000 porn and do s*x challenges.

and on /r/MrBeast he posts this:

Mr Beast should have a lot of children with a lot of different women.

In this post he draws the anger of the Mr. Beast community, and continues to state his love for Henry Kissinger making me believe that he may be a troll but I want to believe that this is a real s*x obsessed schizo so bad.

Continuing his Mr. Beast s*x obsession he posts on /r/conspiracy soon after. He doesn't just want Mr.Beast to be horny and have s*x, no, he knows that he is for a fact.

I think Mr Beast is horny

After coming to this relization our main character becomes terrified. He doesn't want Mr. Beast to be horny anymore, he is terrified of that possibility. He makes two posts one onto /r/confessions and the other onto /r/MrBeast. the one on /r/MrBeast got delted too quickly it seems but it's safe to assume that it has the exact same content as the /r/confessions post.

I am scared of mr beast

Mr beast keeps telling me he is going to have s*x with me because he is horny, he is rich and evil. I am scared of him. He will continue contacting me forever


Dude, your profile makes it plainly obvious you are obsessed with him and that this is a complete lie. Do not slander someone's name, especially when they have the money to sue you for it.

I'd think it would be a waist of money to sue over this dude lol. Not worth anyone's time or sanity

Of course, but that's a risk I wouldn't take over someone I would obsess over, as if obsessing over a YouTube as a self proclaimed adult male (dad) wasn't bad enough...

Whatever fear he has did not last for long though as he soon shares this beautiful creation with the world:

Drawing of Mr Beast I am working on

A little while after he finally gains some confidence and is ready to take his relationship with Mr. Beast to the next level and directly asks on his subreddit how he can get into contact with Mr. Beast so that he can ask him sexual questions. The post gets deleted by the mods and they ban him, but not before the comment section is flooded with soying out over his bravery.


Enraged by his ban he later declares that Mr. Beast has fully joined the woke mob by not wanting to accept his sexual advances.

Just recently, four hours ago he made his latest post. Not only is Mr. Beast aware of his presence but he is trying to reach out to him to consumate their relationship. The only problem? He recieved this info through the voices in his head and doesn't know how to reach back to Mr. Beast. He relies upon /r/advice for help in contacting him.

I am being informed that mr beast is attempting to contact me but I cannot find his message


he isn't trying to contact you

says some hating nonbeliever

Have you tried calling him, /u/Willywonkafan100 ?

I don't know his number

dm him on twitter, upon seeing your name he will surely respond

It's me, im mr beast. Kill your first born child


Just to give dramacels some context, Sweden had a relative stable TFR of around 1.8-1.9 for the past 30 years, it even reached 1.98 around 2010. 1.45 is a very low number for them, and that's accounting immigration. I was surprised by the 1.49 UK TFR's, is also a record low for bongs despite over 1/4 of babies being born to foreign mothers there.

I blame my gaming computer making me not wanna waste any time having s*x and raising kids when I could be grinding in game

Some self awareness :marseysurftheweb:

Hm I wonder why all these nations around the world have such low fertility rates? Could it be that people don't want to get kids because the world is fricked up or because they can't afford it?

A bit too semplicistic, in Africa they are way more poor and fricked up than us in Europe but they make tons of kids :marseynoooticer:

Redditors learn that the global poor have more children :marseymindblown:

The fall of western society.



My ai art post reaches the top of /r/2007scape, many unhappy about this


  • everyone saying they like it downvoted to like -50

  • cries of theft and noooo you can't prompt

  • the same assmad /r/hentai mod still following me around :marseyxd:

:marseybruh::marseybruh::marseybruh: BRUHFUNNY IS REINCARNATED :marseybruh::marseybruh::marseybruh:




Heretical Chili Recipe :marseybountyhunter: :marseydead:

I'm celebrating Texas finally starting to get hot this year by cooking up a big pot of heretical chili.

This chili is considered blasphemous due to the beans - despite this, I have tricked enough Texan coworkers to abandon their morals and win one of those goofy office chili cookoffs with this recipe before I became a pale WFH shut-in.


This makes a ton of chili, and a ton of delicious leftovers. I'll usually put some aside in flattened ziploc bags to freeze for later.


You will need:

5 qt Dutch Oven

Food processor

You could also theoretically throw this all into an instant pot for an hour and get similar results, but I enjoy slowly letting my house smell delicious.



  • 1 diced onion

  • 2-3 chopped celery stalks

  • 1 diced bell pepper

  • 3-4 cloves minced garlic


  • 1 lb ground beef

  • 1 lb italian sausage (not in casing)

  • 6 oz bacon, chopped into bits (about half of a pack)


  • 2 14.5 oz cans "chili beans" (can use kidney instead if desired)

  • 2 15.5 oz. cans diced tomatoes

  • 6 oz tomato paste

  • 1 can "chipotles en adobo/chipotles adobado"

  • 2 beef bouillon cubes

  • 1/4 cup beer - I usually use guiness or blue moon, but any non-crazy beer should work.

  • 1 1/2 tsp worchestershire sauce


  • 2 tbsp chili powder

  • 1 1/2 tsp oregano

  • 1 tsp cumin

  • 1/2 tsp basil

  • 1/2 tsp salt

  • 1/2 tsp pepper

  • 1/2 tsp cayenne powder

  • 1/2 tsp paprika

  • 1/2 tsp sugar

1. Throw everything listed under spices together in a small container and set aside.

2. Throw the chopped bacon, beef, and italian sausage into the pot and allow to cook until the ground meat is browned. Once this is completed, drain the meat and set aside. Keep small amount of fat in the pot.

3. Add onion to pot - stir often and at a higher temperature to allow it to brown. Once the onion has started to brown, turn the heat back down a little and throw in celery, bell pepper, and garlic.

4. Open can of chiles en adobo - take out 1 pepper and scrape out as much of the adobo sauce as you can into a food processor. You can use more peppers if you'd like, but I'd recommend starting with one. Mix the 1 pepper & sauce together until the pepper is fully blended into the sauce.

5. Add the cooked meat to the pot of vegetables.

6. Add the pureed chile sauce and beer.

7. Add the spice mix you set aside in the first step.

8. Add beans, tomato paste, diced tomatoes, and worchestershire.

9. Add bouillon cubes. These will dissolve as the chili cooks. Stir everything together until well mixed.

10. Turn heat down to low, cover pot, and allow to cook for about 4 hours. Stir occasionally to make sure nothing gets stuck to the bottom.

It will taste insanely good the next day after cooling -> reheating.

During grilling season, I'll add a grilled chopped serrano with the vegetables.


Clone Wars is a very serious cartoon guys :carpcrying:
wow much ai such money

Ken, Charter Schools, Evangelical Christianity, and Conspiracy; a thesis of a mentally ill loser


TLDR; >!i have beef with charter schools. doing some digging i discovered that the foundation and network of companies that fund the network of charter schools ken is employed by hosts evangelical christian mission trips for their employees and employee relatives, making them pay to participate (giving them $500 "grants" from said charities to partially cover cost. and no, PTO is not included). the school ken works at provides "revenue" for one of the foundations, over $800k in 2022. no, there is no explicit mention of christianity anywhere on any of the company or school sites. glassdoor reviews of the company are insane, also hint at cult-like christian levels as well as rampant transphobic, sexist, racist, classist, etc. behavior. people are pressured into attending church and christian lectures. GOP leaders are paid to come speak at the company. sketchy finances which led to the federal government recently catching them. i'm probably forgetting other stuff.!<

so. Ken. when i saw that he was 25 and a principal of a middle school, i was impressed. good for him! i saw other people speculating and lightly researching his job, life, etc. on the surface, everything seems normal. however, considering some red flags of his, i did some further digging. this is a long one so buckle up.

my red flags about Ken were the mild fundie christian vibes i got from him (to my fellow fundie snarkers, hey girlliieee, i see you!!!), him talking about "mentors" (not necessarily bad, but as someone who forayed into the corporate world, it gives emotionally manipulative MLM/corporate sliminess. i shudder at the books and lectures and "mentors" shoved down my throat), and when i found out he worked for a charter school.

to emphasize: i do not know Ken. i do not know his character, his work ethic, or his morals. i am a random person on the internet who was curious. he has a life, loved ones, and (in my opinion) deserves grace-- just as we all do. what i find alarming is the insidious nature of the organization(s) that funds the school he works for and whether or not that influences the school itself, if not him.

Ken is principal at Movement Freedom Middle School (this fact can be seen here: Teach for America, WCNC, and CNBC). The school was founded in 2017, so let's ignore the humor in the titles and subtitle, "youngest principal in his school's history". If the role only existed for 5 years prior to my employment... well. i'm just saying that the title doesn't have the same ring if the first principal was 60 and you got hired at 45. anyways. when you go to Movement School's page, the "Our Story" page is vague and only references when different "campuses" opened up. so i googled. according to this article by Good Citizen, "Movement Schools are built in partnership with the Movement Foundation". note, Good Citizen itself is a PBC, or Public Benefit Corporation. PBC's are NOT non-profits. non-profits have no owners, PBCs have shareholders. and shareholders invest for profit. very /r/LateStageCapitalism but whatevs.

okay, so Movement School is funded (somewhat) by Movement Foundation, in addition to public funding. let's go to Movement Foundation's page. it says that it is a non-profit organization. The "how" section shows that they are funded in part by Movement Mortgages. okay, so one can conclude that Movement Schools, Foundation, and Mortgages are all connected. they all have the same logo and graphic design lol. Movement Mortgages? their website confirms they're all connected. cool. their whole thing is about "mortgages that mean more", and that their profits as a company go towards their "movements". oop, something caught my eye on the main page, though. an image and caption for Movement Foundation, "Bringing life, light and hope to communities. The Movement Foundation is the legal entity we work through to honor our commitment of loving our neighbor as ourselves." (italics added by me). okay so Christianity reference right? Movement Mortgages also has a "GraceWorks grant"-- again with the vague religious wording but whatever.

Movement Banking and Movement Insurance also exist too. Movement Banking is actually a rebrand. Casey Crawford, who founded and owns Movement Mortgage, became a majority shareholder of First State Bank, and was named chairman of its board of directors. on their site Movement Banking spends a lot of time talking about its Black history, which is weird considering Tom Smith was president and CEO at rebrand by Casey Crawford, and the man that replaced him (and is still leading) is David Rupp-- all three white men. okay. lol. this is all a corporate scrub-down, though, nothing new. diversity washing is the new green washing. but Movement Mortgage has good reviews from lenders, seemingly positive perception by professionals and news alike.

okay so let us regroup. i'll go over this again and add some details. Movement Mortgages was founded in 2008, co-founded by now CEO and owner Casey Crawford. Casey Crawford openly talks about his faith here, which isn't inherently problematic, he says God "led" him to the mortgage business lol. okay. anyways, Movement Insurance (MI) is established in 2010, the Movement Foundation (MF) 2012, Movement Schools (MS) and Banking (MB) in 2017.

i struggled to find information on the Movement Foundation, as it states on the site non-profit. in digging into that, i discovered there was also Movement Resources (MR) founded in 2016. the interesting thing is that MR isn't listed anywhere but on charity monitoring sites. the IRS filing for 2022 shows MF was given $46,686,792 by MR. also, interestingly, the only other records that same year, MR also gave the NCF Charitable Trust $175,000. i only say it is interesting because they came out with an article in 2023 about how amazing Casey is lol. the document also shows that the school Ken is principal of made $874,055 of "revenue". i'm not going to pretend to know what these numbers mean, but it all seems like a lot of money moving around. looking at guidestar, program 3 is using $46,686,792 for "CURRENTLY AIDING FIVE MOVEMENT CHARTER SCHOOLS IN THE CHARLOTTE AREA WITH SEVERAL MORE IN DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER AREAS SUCH AS CHARLESTON, SC AND ATLANTA, GA AND OTHERS." program 2 is using $2,487,500 for low-interest loans for charity building houses in Mexico for low-income individuals, and program 1 is literally just giving NCF Charitable Trust $175,000 because of "SHARED PROGRAM VALUES WITH PROGRAM ENDEAVORS". i started getting distracted going down this hole, and since i have no idea what i'm looking at i'm going to stop there. i will note that Movement Mortgage last year had to pay millions to resolve, uh, in my opinion, fudging of numbers, or as the feds put it, "with loans underwritten across the United States, including in upstate New York." also, just earlier this year, a poaching controversy is playing out in court.


i went back to Movement Foundation page, because while i don't know numbers something didn't feel right. they mention on the site "About once a month, small groups head out on one and two-week Vision Trips to do humanitarian work in places like Thailand, Mexico, Guatemala and Uganda." okayyyyyy, let me just follow up on this and make sure this isn't. like. missionary work or whatever. it.... couldn't be missionary trips. right? like. there are vague Christian references throughout all the sites, the owner is openly Christian, but let's just make sure. oh.

clicking on the "Vision Trip" link takes me to ""

service reef. SERVICE REEF. it's missionary work, y'all. from service reef's website: "ServiceReef is software built for churches, mission organizations, sending agencies, and universities to handle everything from hour-long service projects to short-term mission trips to long-term missionary support.". okay but what if it is just the website interface that is easiest to use-- not necessarily christian but--- ohhhh noooooooo. i scrolled down the "movement missions" page to the "stories" section. note, most (from what i can tell) are employees and family members of employees of the different Movement "affiliates". y'all....... (bolding by me)

from 2023,

>"Overall, it was an amazing trip. We worked hard, played hard, laughed hard and got to see so many things get accomplished. It was special getting to do manual labor, especially at a camp where children will be presented with the gift of the Gospel. We may never see any of the fruit from the work we did until we get to Glory, but I am so happy with how this trip went. Some of the greatest memories of this trip were getting to be in community with my co-workers and not having to talk about work or canva or M3 or Movement Boost or a million other things. We got to be people sharing stories, laughing and growing the kingdom."

from 2022,

>"Being in the mortgage industry has been a huge blessing in my life and when I joined Movement I knew I could do more than just mortgages. Im half Salvadorian but I've never been to El Salvador. I'm truly honored that Movement has allowed me to push forward the mission to serve communities in El Salvador. I'm expectant for God to use me in but to also challenge me."

from 2020,

>"I want to use every opportunity to make these children feel valued and just be open to however God wants to use me."

different 2020 post,

>"I'm very excited for the opportunity Movement Foundation has put before me to go on my first mission trip and to have the privilege to experience this mission trip with such awesome teammates (and mission trip veterans) is a huge bonus [...] I'm expecting growth in many areas of my life but the one I am anticipating the most is growth in my spiritual desires which includes……obeying God more and denying myself, serving God and others and being unashamed presenting my life as being aligned with Christ. I don't know for sure if this is what God has in store for me so I'm stepping out in faith and trusting Him to guide the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart -- that way I KNOW it will be pleasing in His sight."

different 2020 post,

>"In a little less than a month, I will be going on not only my first missions trip, but I will be leaving the country for the first time. I've been very anxious and excited for this trip, as its been starting to set in that this is actually happening! I have always heard that whenever people leave the country for the first time and when people go on missions trips, that peoples perspectives on life changes and I have this strong feeling that will happen to me. I'm not entirely sure what to expect from this trip otherwise. I've never really thought that I would ever go to Thailand, its never been one of those countries that was on my bucket list to visit, but I remember hearing Kayte and Danae talking about how that was one of the countries that they were looking to make happen for a Movement Missions trip. Even when I heard it, I didn't even have a thought of going on a Mission's trip over there, that was until I read about the story of Remember Nhu. I felt the urge to sign up with no hesitation and no thought as to how I will pay for it, I just knew deep down that it would all work itself out."

different 2020 post,

>"The teams in Brazil and Mexico are serving their communities, doing amazing things through God and it has been a privilege to work alongside the missionaries and my mission teammates. I considered returning to Brazil last year with our team however there were some personal life events happening that just made me feel a bit unsettled about committing. After making the decision not to go, Danae told me about the trip to Thailand that was just announced the day before she told me. She briefly explained the purpose of the trip and I automatically felt the desire to go. God works in amazing ways and after praying the night before, I signed up the next morning for Thailand. After months of feeling unsettled about the timing for Brazil, I felt calm and prepared to make the decision commit to this trip."

a different 2020 post, titled "my first Mission trip",

>"Its been on my heart for a while now to go on a mission trip. I have been saying for the past year that God is leading me to do something that has to do with children. When I heard about this mission trip to Colombia and the purpose was to work with kids in the foster system it immediately spoke to my heart. My husband and I have been thinking about becoming foster parents ourselves and praying to God to lead us in that direction. I believe that this opportunity presented itself to me to open up my heart even more to becoming a foster parent. I'm excited to go on this trip to see how God moves through me. I want to spread Gods word to others, especially children. I want to have an impact in anyway that I can while I am in Colombia, but I have a feeling that Colombia will have the biggest impact on me."

again, these all seem to be Movement Mortgage or affiliate employees.

i browsed some of the open trips to confirm. all are restricted to only allow Movement Mortgage employees-- some allow family members and Movement "affiliates". what kind of employment situation is this where the "humanitarian work" your work offers you is solely Christian missionary work? that you have to pay for? also like, what if an employee is not Christian? or does someone like that just not get hired? this is what they advertise on their sites as the "vision trips", but on this site it is described as "mission"-- why the secrecy and rebrand?

example on concerns, the Dominican Republic trip. it is in partnership with Go MAD, which, "seeks to change the trajectory of lives through education, job training, and healthcare to those in need. Faith in Jesus is the foundation of spreading love and hope to the amazing people they work alongside. They see vision trip teams as an opportunity to connect people to their mission field so they can see firsthand the restoration of hope and the transformation of lives!". the sign-up notes, "The cost is $2500 which includes flight cost. This covers all travel, lodging, meals and ministry expense." and that, "Movement employees will receive a $500 grant. The grant is not available for family members. If this is your first vision trip with Movement you may be eligible for 2 days of PTO." Also! "President of Movement Insurance, Clay Harper, will be leading this trip!".

so. let me get this straight. you hire someone, tell them different christian mission trips they can take, offer them a $500 dollar grant (which seems to be coming from Movement Foundation?), and maybe give them 2 days of PTO???? an EMPLOYEE gives their EMPLOYER $500-$4000 (if not more), allowing the employer to effectively write-off $500 for "humanitarian causes" so that y'all can spread the word of Jesus Christ? oh. my. god. the least expensive trip currently listed is $500 (with the grant discount), and it seems only the one above offers potential built-in PTO (the 2 days listed above). this... does not feel right.

looking back at the founder's site, it states, "Since 2012, Casey's companies have given more than $260 million to the Movement Foundation to uplift people and communities across the globe."-- how many of that is $500 dollar grants to their own employees? the one hidden non-profit is listed as a grant based one-- is this where some of the grants go? how many of the grants are given to evangelical organizations? (and before you ask, yes a few of the above stories are from openly evangelical mission organizations). also those of you unfamiliar with the issues of "missions"-- whether christian or not-- i urge you to research just how harmful it can be to have a bunch of americans show up to communities and "help".

i wasn't gonna mention this but i'm being petty. Casey talked about living a solid blue-collar upbringing and witnessing the poverty and crime in DC. as someone from the area it was funny to then see his schooling history. obviously there can be scholarships but like. a private catholic high school with tuition? going to UVA for football? your family had more than just blue-collar money, and that's okay. rich people always downplay their wealth, lol.

i then looked at the Glassdoor reviews of Movement Mortgages, and obviously need to take this kind of opinion critically, but here are some highlights:

>"Company is owned by a christian and I think it's an all christian board. They push their beliefs onto employees. They don't "make you" attend their christian trainings but everyone knows they give opportunities to their white christian cis gendered employees and if you want to get a promotion you have to act the part. A diversity committee was started after the company was pressured by the few black employees there to start one. The chairman of the committee was asked by the founder of the company Casey Crawford if there was anyway they could figure out to keep gay people off the committee because it didn't gel with the company's christian values. [...] Movement has very, very few black employees out of the several thousands of people in the company. The few black people I know that are at Movement know better than to speak up or they risk being pushed out. Management made it clear they do not support trans people, said the reason is they don't get involved in politics. They don't realize they have trans people employed. Ask the c suite or founder how they feel about trans people and how they would treat a trans employee or a job applicant who was trans. This is just a few of the complaints against the company that I experienced. I haven't even touched on the racism I've seen especially against black people, mortgage applicants & employees. I know this is a serious claim but these are events I personally experienced and know."

"dial it down with the jesus juice"

>"My company was acquired by Movement Mortgage, so while I was grateful to be brought over, it was not my choice to work for this company. I will give Movement credit - they put on a good show. High production value at events to "wow" people. But that's all it is - a show. They onboarded three companies within a 1 month time span. The onboarding process was chaotic and unorganized. I feel like I'm just running around in circles and don't know who to go to for answers. When I do ask questions it takes DAYS to get a response, which is usually just pushing me in a different direction. My other massive issue with this organization is they push religion/Christianity HARD. There are strong religious undertones in every aspect of the business. God is even mentioned multiple times in recruiting presentations. They push their charitable "Vision Trips" on employees, which are really just mission trips to spread Christianity to other parts of the world. It's incredibly insulting for those who don't believe or are followers of different faiths. It presents a huge feeling of if you don't drink the Kool-Aid you wont fit in. Improve your back end support before you keep acquiring more companies. Pull back on the religious rhetoric, it alienates A LOT of employees that don't have the same views."

>Majority of the staff goes to the same church. Many related people work there.

>Not too christian as they claim to's money, and forget your love values. Spend too much money on so called "missionary "trips. Be honest with your employees and stop the facade of being a "christian values"company. Stop saying you are working at getting better..yea better at lies and humiliating people.

>Suckered in by a manager who'd only been there for 1 year, was ALL about God and was compassionate and just a cool person....promised a supportive and fair training time. Reality check: READ THE CONS AND BELIEVE THEM. [...] They love to beat you up and say we're here for you in the same email CONSTANTLY. It is unbearable and if you reach out for help to discuss get acid thrown in your face and left in the wind on a stress all weekend about your future with no answers and no replies. As a 25+ year highly esteemed veteran of this industry....I can honestly say there is no worse company out there! The God thing flies out the window within days...except for the creepy bible verses at the end of every email and the level of mental manipulation and outright cruelty is epic. Loved to your face, gossiped about behind your back, pressured, lied to and about, cut OFF from any "further training"......and all of this by week 3!!!

>And finally, and maybe my biggest issue with this company is their false branding. They portray themselves as a Christian company that values their employees and borrowers, yet treat employees as highly expendable capital while screwing over borrowers with some of the worst rates in Charlotte. All of the branding, such as movement school and bank are done as a farce to help rebrand their mistakes.

this one is titled, "i heard you like bible verses"

>“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both god and money.” - Matthew 6:24 It's extremely ironic this company posts bible verses on walls when leadership is the polar opposite of anything remotely Christlike. The sales team is allowed to speak to the production team however they wish. And if they don't like any of the regulations, all they need to do is complain enough and management will make yet another exception. This company is in great need of an audit. Here is some advice to any new employee reading this. Do you attend church? What about the same church as management? If you cant answer yes to both, good luck getting promoted. Just look around and see what team leads, “VP's”, etc have in common. Nepotism. Gain as much experience as you can and leave ASAP. You'll also get paid more elsewhere as well. During one of the many layoffs in 2018, the company opened up a gym and had a family member of the CEO join the company and run it. Is a gym more important than all the jobs they cut just one day before? Apparently someone thought it was. Though I'm having a hard time imaging Jesus doing that. Do you vote republican? If not, get ready for an avalanche of right wing beliefs thrown at you daily. The majority of guest speakers are elected officials of the GOP. Won't fault anyone for having opinions, but it's highly unprofessional to bring it into the work place. And for the record, I'd feel the same way of it was Democrats as well. Take a look at all the 1 and 2 star reviews on this website. They are legit and hit at many of the same issues. The reviews on the company Facebook page are actually worse. And in regards to those 5 star reviews, the majority are not real. The company requests employees to create several fake accounts to leave several fake reviews to help boost the score. They do the same when it comes to awards like the “best mortgage company to work for” in the various regional newspapers. And if you refuse to participate, you are guilted until you do so or at least tell them you did. How about the “7 day process”? It's a running joke. Most of the loans are not closed within 7 days. But it's highly unrealistic anyways so this is hardly surprising. This is also what's sold to the new loan officers to explain why the interest rates are so high. Lastly, I'd like to address the individual(s) who are given the unfortunate task of responding to all of the bad reviews in hopes it'll make the company look like they care. Don't bother responding. I'm not interested in your generic half hearted response. Most people on reading this reviews are not interested either and can see right through them. So you can save some time and skip this one. As for management, here's another bible verse you should consider hanging up. “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god.” Matthew 19:24

>They claim to do for the community but they steal from Peter to pay Paul. They charge the highest rates and pay out the lowest commissions to loan originators and underpay and overwork the least experienced processors in order to feed their "Philanthropic" work.

>Second off, it's funny how the company had to make “difficult” financial decisions and lay off people/cut benefits but yet they didn't stop construction on the new multi-million dollar building and also had millions to buy up another company. As a company that is supposed to “love and value people” don't exactly show that. It's just a marketing tactic. As nice as the Halloween celebration is, many departments choose culturally insensitive themes and this is perfectly ok with HR/Management. Want to portray “trash” that has a bunch of babies and lives on welfare? Ok! Want to dress up in a poncho with sombrero and be “lazy”? Yep, totally ok. Want to dress like cowboys and Native Americans? Don't see a problem there! This honestly isn't shocking, based on some of the things I've heard managers say to employees, including a white manager being shocked for someone telling him he couldn't say the “n” word (at work mind you). HR doesn't care about any of this. They will bury anything to keep their buddies in their positions. The replies to these posts is just pathetic as well: “Sorry you feel your pay was inadequate, have a nice life” more or less. Notice how the “problem” is always with the people writing reviews? They never admit fault for anything, it's a cult and they are just “sorry” that you couldn't cut it. Oh! Or it is “perhaps you should talk to your manager!” Like we haven't all already tried that. Here's a newsflash, our managers ARE the problem 9 times out of 10. They pick who they like and don't like and the ones they don't like, they make their lives terrible. In my case, my manager was hostile towards those he did not like. So, no, I don't feel comfortable bringing my problems to him. My attempts to bring those problems higher up the chain were also quickly squashed by his buddies in HR and upper management.

>Advice to Management

>Be genuine. Stop asking for fake reviews to boost your rating on here, stop posting replies that are essentially useless. People are giving you real problems, read them and actually hold employees accountable when issues are brought to you. If you actually reprimanded employees for bad behavior, it wouldn't be such a toxic workplace.

>They pretend to be about god and family and community, however they over work you. [...] They like to keep God on the walls - but this is all for image as these people worship money. God said money is the root of all evil. A bunch of pretenders with no morality. They will pile work on you until you are pulling your hair out, even after working 15hr days you won't catch up. And the pay is not worth it. The management is out of touch and apparently don't understand how to manage money. They lay off so many people, and then waste money building offices and gyms that end up empty because they dump so many of their employees. Godlessness! Take God off your walls and stop with the farce already.

>Forced to attend religious sermons on first Friday of every month. [...] They say that they love and value their people but they have proven time and again that they just don't care at all. [...] Honestly, I think if the CEO would spend more time worrying about running a company instead of a church, maybe this company wouldn't be falling apart. All day every day all people in my department talk about is speculating when we're going to be laid off.

okay. let's take a breather. what the frick. that was just the tip of the iceberg btw. i didn't include a lot of the other negative reviews because i didn't understand them, but the implication is that they are ripping off members of high-risk communities as well as doing sketchy financial shit.

what does this have to do with Ken from Love is Blind? everything and nothing, in my opinion.

let's go back to his job, the charter school. the educational system in america is failing! regardless of which political party you align with, we all conclude the same thing. charter schools are a grey area, my issue is with those that pretend to be public when they are far from public. those that want some insight on charter schools, here are three youtube videos that can provide a brief critique of them (john oliver's last week tonight, 2017, vice news, 2020 CNBC, 2022).

the main concerns i have is that charter schools are publicly funded but privately owned and not privy to government regulation. they only have to hit certain criteria in testing to continue receiving funding. recent studies show maybe a marginal benefit of charter over public-- if they don't randomly shut down. additionally, charter schools don't have to be open about who "invests" and how that influences their schools. let's remember the IRS document i found that showed the millions given to fund the facilities, as well as the $800k+ of "revenue" listed as being obtained from Ken's specific school location. and what about the comments from ex-employees? they described them as cult-like, discriminatory, etc. i get this sick feeling in my stomach thinking about how vulnerable people are at the mercy of the mortgage company, the company-led missionary trips, and who knows what is happening at the schools.

so this is where the insidious part comes in. in TFA's interview, Ken states,

>"The thing that's made me stay at Movement is we have a mission—an objective to love scholars, to value scholars and to nurture scholars. Movement Schools promote rigorous academics, but I also love the intense value behind cultivating positive character, morals and ethics, educating students on community, the world and society. A kid can get in front of a test and pass and ace it. But are you also pointing to them as a person? Because one day they won't be in your school and they'll be in the world. Are you creating a space that will cultivate them to succeed professionally, academically, but also just be great humans and members of society too? Movement does a really good job of balancing how to pour into the whole child, prioritizing academic success as well as intentional and impactful character development."

on the surface this seems absolutely amazing-- but. again. Im an r-slur but a dogwhistle, the word "mission". combined with ken's overt, televised devotion to Christianity, it gives me pause. in addition, his employer openly hosts and uses non-profit money to facilitate their employees to take Christian mission trips. let's not forget about the glassdoor reviews. if the committees and leadership for the school are anything like the company's that fund them, it's fricked.

another "theory" is a situation i've been in before. while i'm not black, i am a "young" woman. corporations like this prey on our desire to be something and accomplish things. i was in a corporate structure similar to what the glassdoor reviews resembled. in the beginning i was love-bombed and told how incredible i was, then given major responsibilities (that i shouldn't have been given! without a pay raise!) and used as a scapegoat for management when i inevitably overworked myself and cried uncle. i wouldn't be surprised if this is the situation for Ken. all the negative reviews of the company mentioned terrible work-life balance. given how involved he became in work the second he got his phone back, it seems plausible as a theory.

obviously me, as a random redditor, cannot determine the level of evangelical doctrine that exists in the charter school the "Movement" affiliates fund. but, given this man's behavior in and outside the pods, Ken seems to be at least partially led by fundamentalist christian ideas (especially given the submissive/dominant domestic roles that were briefly discussed in the pods). what kind of morals and ethics are being taught to the kids? i have no idea. we cannot know, because it is a charter. what we can see, however, is that leadership in other parts of the companies connected to the schools view LGBTQIA issues as "not aligning" with their values, and that they bring in GOP leaders to speak to employees. instead of the company just investing in public schools (which you can do, btw), the culty christians create their new network of charter schools financed by financial fudging and evangelical doctrine. what does this mean for employees of the schools? for the children?

what i want to make sure is, is that no one is making overt conclusions about Ken or other parts of his life especially given this information i have found regarding his employer. i also want to clarify that my concern for the children in the school are not based on perceived sexuality, gender, or age of Ken but instead the potential for political or religious-based censorship or indoctrination by the institutions.

if you read all the way to this point, i love you. k byeeee

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